America's Gun Violence

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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BCPosts: 44,095
    This is one of the main problems with people walking around with guns in America. What would almost certainly have been a regular old scuffle or fist fight between a couple of bone heads over a parking space in any other Western nation turned into a shooting death.
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  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer MarylandPosts: 12,500
    PJ_Soul said:
    This is one of the main problems with people walking around with guns in America. What would almost certainly have been a regular old scuffle or fist fight between a couple of bone heads over a parking space in any other Western nation turned into a shooting death.
    Yep.  And then we have people defending why it's "okay."
  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MNPosts: 1,222
    Stand Your Ground is working exactly as it was intended to.  To exactly what it was intended to do it to. For exactly who it was intended for.

    And now, if you're black in Florida, you have to be aware that someone might try to start something with just so they can shoot you.  
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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 5,144
    edited July 23
    mace1229 said:
    I only saw the clip for the first time this morning. I think he was an older guy. He shouldn’t be expected to stand up and shove back.
    Im glad he said something about the parking space. There were plenty of non handicapped spaces and she should have been called out, he shouldn’t have to mind his own business. Now how he confronted her I don’t know, but I haven’t read anything that suggests it was threatening. 
    I’m not saying he should have shot him. Just that I could believe him that he was in fear for his life. And really that’s all that matters in this case. An older man like he was would have just gotten beaten for getting up. He did not just push him down and walk away, the video clearly shows him continuing to approach while he was on the ground. I’m not convinced the guy wasn’t planning on beating him some more on the ground.
    Even if you want to argue the he felt "threatened" claim, watch the video again and see where the victim's hands are and then what happens as the other guy starts to draw a gun. The victim immediately starts backing away when he sees what the man is doing and a bystander in the background gets the hell out of the way. The only way this could be worse is if the victim had actually turned around. If this man was in fear, than he should be confined to his house for life. It's reckless use and murder.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, ColoradoPosts: 5,619
    How about this option....

    Get up, turn around, walk away

    ??
  • How about this option....

    Get up, turn around, walk away

    ??
    So many options. None used because this idiot was not backing down given he was carrying a testosterone injector.

    Poor little guy. Got tough with a lady. A man shoved him to the ground as if he was a toddler... but look who had the last laugh. 

    Pathetic excuse for a man.
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 15,997
    People trying to justify this shooting are fucking ridiculous
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, ColoradoPosts: 5,619
    This should make true American patriots  extremely happy....


  • SmellymanSmellyman AsiaPosts: 3,457
    Florida is a fucked state.  Avoid at all costs
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 17,308
    Smellyman said:
    Florida is a fucked state.  Avoid at all costs
    Yup.
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  • RideRickRideRick HoornPosts: 632
    So far for visiting the U.S.A. for me..  hahahaha.   Got a gun
    Fact I got two
    That's okay man 'cause I love God
    Glorified version of a pellet gun
    Feels so manly
    When armed
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    my2hands said:


    These guys are going to fight off a "tyrannical" USA government?

    Lol
    Thanks for this hilarious sketch. This was fun. 
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  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,485
    This is a huge day for gun rights people!  Open carry declared protected!
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 17,308
    unsung said:
    This is a huge day for gun rights people!  Open carry declared protected!


    And your hero acting "responsible." Are you now going to march around in public with several of your AR15s slung over your shoulder to show your pride and solidarity? Or will you not answer because, well, its too personal?

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/alex-jones-threatens-to-shoot-robert-mueller/ar-AAAkta6?li=BBnbfcL&ocid=iehp

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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 19,770
    unsung said:
    This is a huge day for gun rights people!  Open carry declared protected!
    Congrats I hope you never have to get into a shoot out over a parking space , I’m glad we the peaceful anti gun folks have access to the states that are for carry conceal it’s easy to not visit a state like Michigan or Florida they offer nothing to me personally...
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 10,615
    Open carry is awful.  Literally carrying around a piece of equipment designed to kill for all to see.  Yeah, that's not going to be a problem at all.  What the fuck was so awesome about the Wild West?
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 19,770
    Open carry is awful.  Literally carrying around a piece of equipment designed to kill for all to see.  Yeah, that's not going to be a problem at all.  What the fuck was so awesome about the Wild West?
    Well you can settle disagreements fast fuck the courts ...
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 17,308
    Open carry is awful.  Literally carrying around a piece of equipment designed to kill for all to see.  Yeah, that's not going to be a problem at all.  What the fuck was so awesome about the Wild West?
    Delusional
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 15,997
    Open carry is awful.  Literally carrying around a piece of equipment designed to kill for all to see.  Yeah, that's not going to be a problem at all.  What the fuck was so awesome about the Wild West?
    It's ridiculous.
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 15,997
    unsung said:
    This is a huge day for gun rights people!  Open carry declared protected!
    Let me be honest with you open carry folks....

    When you have a gun strapped to your hip, in public, as a civilian, the rest of us all think you look like a moron. Just being honest

    I was out at breakfast with my 67 year old mother... and some 23 year old had a gun strapped to his belt like he was the goofball version of John Wayne... do we really need assholes with guns strapped to their hip at Bob Evan's on a Sunday when I'm at breakfast with my mother? 

    Why are you guys so scared?
  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,485
    Why are you scared of someone using their Rights?
  • PJPOWERPJPOWER In Yo FacePosts: 4,392
    edited July 25
    my2hands said:
    unsung said:
    This is a huge day for gun rights people!  Open carry declared protected!
    Let me be honest with you open carry folks....

    When you have a gun strapped to your hip, in public, as a civilian, the rest of us all think you look like a moron. Just being honest

    I was out at breakfast with my 67 year old mother... and some 23 year old had a gun strapped to his belt like he was the goofball version of John Wayne... do we really need assholes with guns strapped to their hip at Bob Evan's on a Sunday when I'm at breakfast with my mother? 

    Why are you guys so scared?
    I have never open carried, but I just wanted to say that there are plenty of things people wear/do out in public that make them look like morons...And this is probably a geographical thing.  Here in TX, no one thinks twice if they see someone carrying a firearm.  That being said, I really don’t run across too many people open carrying, but I assume that all of us are around several people conceal carrying on a daily basis.  
    I have no problem with people exercising what numerous courts now hold as a personal right.
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  • unsung said:
    Why are you scared of someone using their Rights?

    Because those moronic rights open the door for awful behaviour that results in people getting hurt and dying.

    I agree with My2hands... guys walking around with their guns in public are fools. And if I can be honest... to me it seems as if they are supplementing character weaknesses like confidence and strength.

    One way or another... they're weak. Pure and simple.
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER In Yo FacePosts: 4,392
    unsung said:
    Why are you scared of someone using their Rights?

    Because those moronic rights open the door for awful behaviour that results in people getting hurt and dying.

    I agree with My2hands... guys walking around with their guns in public are fools. And if I can be honest... to me it seems as if they are supplementing character weaknesses like confidence and strength.

    One way or another... they're weak. Pure and simple.
    What about gals walking around with their guns in public?  Firearm ownership among women is pretty damn high.  
    So because they are weak, they should not be granted a way of protecting themselves?  
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  • PJPOWER said:
    unsung said:
    Why are you scared of someone using their Rights?

    Because those moronic rights open the door for awful behaviour that results in people getting hurt and dying.

    I agree with My2hands... guys walking around with their guns in public are fools. And if I can be honest... to me it seems as if they are supplementing character weaknesses like confidence and strength.

    One way or another... they're weak. Pure and simple.
    What about gals walking around with their guns in public?  Firearm ownership among women is pretty damn high.  
    So because they are weak, they should not be granted a way of protecting themselves?  

    Same opinion with one caveat: women are repeatedly the victims of men. Some of them are stalked or have some f**king loser in their past that is unstable and in possession of a 100 guns... sooo... I get where they are at.

    Males are the problem here- especially the ones trying to make up a few inches by lookin' tuff with a big gun.
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER In Yo FacePosts: 4,392
    edited July 25
    PJPOWER said:
    unsung said:
    Why are you scared of someone using their Rights?

    Because those moronic rights open the door for awful behaviour that results in people getting hurt and dying.

    I agree with My2hands... guys walking around with their guns in public are fools. And if I can be honest... to me it seems as if they are supplementing character weaknesses like confidence and strength.

    One way or another... they're weak. Pure and simple.
    What about gals walking around with their guns in public?  Firearm ownership among women is pretty damn high.  
    So because they are weak, they should not be granted a way of protecting themselves?  

    Same opinion with one caveat: women are repeatedly the victims of men. Some of them are stalked or have some f**king loser in their past that is unstable and in possession of a 100 guns... sooo... I get where they are at.

    Males are the problem here- especially the ones trying to make up a few inches by lookin' tuff with a big gun.
    What about the woman with a stalker that gets a new boyfriend?  Could that boyfriend not make a case for being in danger?  Are you picking on the weak?  What about the elderly or disabled?  
    Regardless, weak or not, these rights have been granted to them and they really don’t have to explain why they are exercising that right (whether they are compensating for something, are women, are weak, or are just concerned about the rising violence in their area).  To just say someone is “weak” is a pretty “weak” argument.
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  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer MarylandPosts: 12,500
    edited July 25
    unsung said:
    Why are you scared of someone using their Rights?
    Because people fucking die over this stupid ass "right."  Over trivial fucking matters.  Last thing I need is to fear going in public because I bumped into some asshole with an ego 100 times the size of his cock and he feels the need to shoot the fuck away at me because it's his raaht to bear awrmz.

    Stop hiding behind the skirt of "It's my right."  This is not what the founding fathers envisioned, and you know it!  But go ahead, if it makes you feel like more of a man to have your sidearm strapped to you. By all fucking means bro, carry away. Just make sure the piece you carry is bigger than your dick.
  • PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    unsung said:
    Why are you scared of someone using their Rights?

    Because those moronic rights open the door for awful behaviour that results in people getting hurt and dying.

    I agree with My2hands... guys walking around with their guns in public are fools. And if I can be honest... to me it seems as if they are supplementing character weaknesses like confidence and strength.

    One way or another... they're weak. Pure and simple.
    What about gals walking around with their guns in public?  Firearm ownership among women is pretty damn high.  
    So because they are weak, they should not be granted a way of protecting themselves?  

    Same opinion with one caveat: women are repeatedly the victims of men. Some of them are stalked or have some f**king loser in their past that is unstable and in possession of a 100 guns... sooo... I get where they are at.

    Males are the problem here- especially the ones trying to make up a few inches by lookin' tuff with a big gun.
    What about the woman with a stalker that gets a new boyfriend?  Could that boyfriend not make a case for being in danger?  Are you picking on the weak?  What about the elderly or disabled?  
    Regardless, weak or not, these rights have been granted to them and they really don’t have to explain why they are exercising that right (whether they are compensating for something, are women, are weak, or are just concerned about the rising violence in their area).  To just say someone is “weak” is a pretty “weak” argument.

    It's a strong argument.

    I'm sorry you don't like it given the amount of truth there is to it.
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