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  • OnWis97OnWis97 Posts: 5,128
    Trump sends "thoughts and prayers". awesome. good for you. 

    Thoughts and Prayers = T P
    TP: wipe your ass with it. 
    TP also = Trump Pence.  Which is less valuable than the TP you cite.

    Speaking of Trump, someone's shooting at journalists...who are currently the nation's biggest enemy.  This was bound to happen.  Also because someone doesn't have thick enough skin to absorb any criticism.  
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,948
    edited June 2018
    Trump sends "thoughts and prayers". awesome. good for you. 

    Thoughts and Prayers = T P
    TP: wipe your ass with it. 
    I would have thought Trump would be glad - the enemies of the people are finally getting their just desserts, right? :neutral:
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  • KC138045KC138045 Posts: 2,716
    Trump sends "thoughts and prayers". awesome. good for you. 

    Thoughts and Prayers = T P
    TP: wipe your ass with it. 
    I really, really hate the 'thought and prayers" response to any tragedy.  Even on social media if a friend post some bad news.  I know there are good intentions behind it but I still don't like it.
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  • PJ_Soul said:
    Trump sends "thoughts and prayers". awesome. good for you. 

    Thoughts and Prayers = T P
    TP: wipe your ass with it. 
    I would have thought Trump would be glad - the enemies of the people are finally getting their just desserts, right? :neutral:
    yeah, no kidding. 
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  • Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Posts: 15,165
    More thoughts and prayers...
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  • g under pg under p Posts: 18,193
    edited June 2018
    It’s pouring rain here in West Palm Beach FL about as much as all the tears that have fallen from all these endless shootings. Which makes me think of this old Sting song........FRAGILE.

    https://youtu.be/sLLg9ssYrkY

    https://youtu.be/EmDQFWNjHpA

    If blood will flow
    when flesh and steel are one
    Drying in the colour
    of the evening sun

    Tomorrow's rain will
    wash the stains away
    But something in our minds
    will always stay

    Perhaps this final act was meant
    To clinch a lifetime's argument
    That nothing comes from violence
    and nothing ever could

    For all those born
    beneath an angry star
    Lest we forget how
    Fragile we are

    On and on
    the rain will fall
    Like tears from a star
    like tears from a star
    On and on
    the rain will say
    How fragile we are
    how fragile we are

    On and on
    the rain will fall
    Like tears from a star
    like tears from a star
    On and on
    the rain will say
    How fragile we are
    how fragile we are
    How fragile we are
    how fragile we are 

    peace
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,000
    Can’t call them “responsible” gun owners so where are the “responsible” gun owners calling for responsible gun laws?

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  • g under pg under p Posts: 18,193
    Can’t call them “responsible” gun owners so where are the “responsible” gun owners calling for responsible gun laws?

    http://m.cnn.com/en/article/h_af4c0dcb7607d5a982e8c5cba205e275
    That will continue to be a growing problem in this country as our population continues to age.

    Peace
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,006
    What can I say?  This article speaks for itself.   Very f'd up.


    After five people were gunned down in their own newsroom, the normally feisty editorial page of the Capital-Gazette newspaper in Annapolis, Maryland, went silent Friday.

    “Today, we are speechless,” the page said. “This page is intentionally left blank today to commemorate victims of Thursday’s shootings at our office.”

    But, among the far-right, activists were anything but silent, celebrating, speculating and casting blame for the shooting of a group of local reporters and editors who cover the central Maryland community.

    “We don’t give a fuck about you, journalist,” tweeted Nicholas Fuentes, a YouTube personality who attended the “Unite the Right” rally in Charlottesville, Virginia.

    Hundreds of posts, tweets and comments populated Twitter, the alt-right social network Gab, 4chan and other social media outlets, condemning the five people killed in what they expected to be just another day at work.

    The posts ranged from conspiratorial to wondering if the shooter was Jewish — a favorite target of the alt-right — to outright blaming the reporters for what happened to them.

    “Wowza. Maybe it was a Jew, but probably a goy,” wrote AltonRocht, on The Daily Stormer. “Let’s try to push an offensive narrative for this. The media, and the anti-white forces in American mean that these shootings will grow more frequent.”

    Police arrested Jarrod Warren Ramos, a 38-year-old white man with a long history of grievances against the newspaper. He’s charged with five counts of first-degree murder.

    The shooting came just days after President Donald Trump, at a campaign rally, pointed to a group of reporters and called them the “enemy of the American people” and alt-right provocateur Milo Yiannopoulos said he couldn’t “wait for the vigilante squads to start gunning journalists down on sight.”

    Yiannopoulos later referred to the comment as a joke, saying he wasn’t serious and police haven’t commented on a motive.

    Andrew Anglin, the blogger and primary voice behind the racist and antisemitic website The Daily Stormer, posted a long diatribe about Yiannopoulos on Friday morning, and dismissed the deaths of the five journalists at the end.

    "But seriously — just straight talk here — there is no single group of people on the planet that is more deserving of just getting gunned down like animals," Anglin wrote.

    For far-right adherents, the shooting spurred on conspiracies and celebration that journalists, never a popular group with the alt-right, were dead.

    “Is there only 2 options here,” wrote a poster going by “Lucky” on Daily Stormer. “1. The beginning of our side taking out the real enemy. 2. False flag attack. If it was our guy, they would have killed him. So strange, how kikes pretending to be white, get taken alive.”

    Christopher Cantwell, best known as the “Crying Nazi” after the Unite the Right rally, kept his thoughts simple: “#MAGA” posted over a picture of Yiannopoulos and a Drudge Report headline “Shooting at Newspaper.”

    “They should live in fear,” tweeted @WarthogJim, whose account was suspended Friday morning.

    Alt-right activist Laura Loomer tied the shootings to recent comments from U.S. Rep. Maxine Waters, a California Democrat who called for Trump administration staffers to be harassed while out in public.

    “I wonder if the shooter in Annapolis today is a supporter of @RepMaxine Waters …” Loomer wrote on Twitter shortly after the shooting took place.

    Others took on the reporters as a stereotype, lumping everyone working in journalism into a group up to no good.

    “If they work for a newspaper, they’ve got to be douchebags,” wrote @GabrielWest, posting as “Joe Lincoln” on Twitter. “Fuck’em. #Kapow #LyingLeftistLosers #FuckTheLeftistMedia.”

    But, for all the anger, conspiracies and stereotypes about those killed, no one on the far-right mentioned the names of the five people with families, friends and loved ones who were killed: Robert Hiaasen, John McNamara, Gerald Fischman, Wendi Winters and Rebecca Smith.



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  • vaggar99vaggar99 Posts: 3,427
    brianlux said:
    What can I say?  This article speaks for itself.   Very f'd up.


    After five people were gunned down in their own newsroom, the normally feisty editorial page of the Capital-Gazette newspaper in Annapolis, Maryland, went silent Friday.

    “Today, we are speechless,” the page said. “This page is intentionally left blank today to commemorate victims of Thursday’s shootings at our office.”

    But, among the far-right, activists were anything but silent, celebrating, speculating and casting blame for the shooting of a group of local reporters and editors who cover the central Maryland community.

    “We don’t give a fuck about you, journalist,” tweeted Nicholas Fuentes, a YouTube personality who attended the “Unite the Right” rally in Charlottesville, Virginia.

    Hundreds of posts, tweets and comments populated Twitter, the alt-right social network Gab, 4chan and other social media outlets, condemning the five people killed in what they expected to be just another day at work.

    The posts ranged from conspiratorial to wondering if the shooter was Jewish — a favorite target of the alt-right — to outright blaming the reporters for what happened to them.

    “Wowza. Maybe it was a Jew, but probably a goy,” wrote AltonRocht, on The Daily Stormer. “Let’s try to push an offensive narrative for this. The media, and the anti-white forces in American mean that these shootings will grow more frequent.”

    Police arrested Jarrod Warren Ramos, a 38-year-old white man with a long history of grievances against the newspaper. He’s charged with five counts of first-degree murder.

    The shooting came just days after President Donald Trump, at a campaign rally, pointed to a group of reporters and called them the “enemy of the American people” and alt-right provocateur Milo Yiannopoulos said he couldn’t “wait for the vigilante squads to start gunning journalists down on sight.”

    Yiannopoulos later referred to the comment as a joke, saying he wasn’t serious and police haven’t commented on a motive.

    Andrew Anglin, the blogger and primary voice behind the racist and antisemitic website The Daily Stormer, posted a long diatribe about Yiannopoulos on Friday morning, and dismissed the deaths of the five journalists at the end.

    "But seriously — just straight talk here — there is no single group of people on the planet that is more deserving of just getting gunned down like animals," Anglin wrote.

    For far-right adherents, the shooting spurred on conspiracies and celebration that journalists, never a popular group with the alt-right, were dead.

    “Is there only 2 options here,” wrote a poster going by “Lucky” on Daily Stormer. “1. The beginning of our side taking out the real enemy. 2. False flag attack. If it was our guy, they would have killed him. So strange, how kikes pretending to be white, get taken alive.”

    Christopher Cantwell, best known as the “Crying Nazi” after the Unite the Right rally, kept his thoughts simple: “#MAGA” posted over a picture of Yiannopoulos and a Drudge Report headline “Shooting at Newspaper.”

    “They should live in fear,” tweeted @WarthogJim, whose account was suspended Friday morning.

    Alt-right activist Laura Loomer tied the shootings to recent comments from U.S. Rep. Maxine Waters, a California Democrat who called for Trump administration staffers to be harassed while out in public.

    “I wonder if the shooter in Annapolis today is a supporter of @RepMaxine Waters …” Loomer wrote on Twitter shortly after the shooting took place.

    Others took on the reporters as a stereotype, lumping everyone working in journalism into a group up to no good.

    “If they work for a newspaper, they’ve got to be douchebags,” wrote @GabrielWest, posting as “Joe Lincoln” on Twitter. “Fuck’em. #Kapow #LyingLeftistLosers #FuckTheLeftistMedia.”

    But, for all the anger, conspiracies and stereotypes about those killed, no one on the far-right mentioned the names of the five people with families, friends and loved ones who were killed: Robert Hiaasen, John McNamara, Gerald Fischman, Wendi Winters and Rebecca Smith.



    i have a feeling there's more of this to come.  what a sad time to be an American.
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,006
    vaggar99 said:
    brianlux said:
    What can I say?  This article speaks for itself.   Very f'd up.


    After five people were gunned down in their own newsroom, the normally feisty editorial page of the Capital-Gazette newspaper in Annapolis, Maryland, went silent Friday.

    “Today, we are speechless,” the page said. “This page is intentionally left blank today to commemorate victims of Thursday’s shootings at our office.”

    But, among the far-right, activists were anything but silent, celebrating, speculating and casting blame for the shooting of a group of local reporters and editors who cover the central Maryland community.

    “We don’t give a fuck about you, journalist,” tweeted Nicholas Fuentes, a YouTube personality who attended the “Unite the Right” rally in Charlottesville, Virginia.

    Hundreds of posts, tweets and comments populated Twitter, the alt-right social network Gab, 4chan and other social media outlets, condemning the five people killed in what they expected to be just another day at work.

    The posts ranged from conspiratorial to wondering if the shooter was Jewish — a favorite target of the alt-right — to outright blaming the reporters for what happened to them.

    “Wowza. Maybe it was a Jew, but probably a goy,” wrote AltonRocht, on The Daily Stormer. “Let’s try to push an offensive narrative for this. The media, and the anti-white forces in American mean that these shootings will grow more frequent.”

    Police arrested Jarrod Warren Ramos, a 38-year-old white man with a long history of grievances against the newspaper. He’s charged with five counts of first-degree murder.

    The shooting came just days after President Donald Trump, at a campaign rally, pointed to a group of reporters and called them the “enemy of the American people” and alt-right provocateur Milo Yiannopoulos said he couldn’t “wait for the vigilante squads to start gunning journalists down on sight.”

    Yiannopoulos later referred to the comment as a joke, saying he wasn’t serious and police haven’t commented on a motive.

    Andrew Anglin, the blogger and primary voice behind the racist and antisemitic website The Daily Stormer, posted a long diatribe about Yiannopoulos on Friday morning, and dismissed the deaths of the five journalists at the end.

    "But seriously — just straight talk here — there is no single group of people on the planet that is more deserving of just getting gunned down like animals," Anglin wrote.

    For far-right adherents, the shooting spurred on conspiracies and celebration that journalists, never a popular group with the alt-right, were dead.

    “Is there only 2 options here,” wrote a poster going by “Lucky” on Daily Stormer. “1. The beginning of our side taking out the real enemy. 2. False flag attack. If it was our guy, they would have killed him. So strange, how kikes pretending to be white, get taken alive.”

    Christopher Cantwell, best known as the “Crying Nazi” after the Unite the Right rally, kept his thoughts simple: “#MAGA” posted over a picture of Yiannopoulos and a Drudge Report headline “Shooting at Newspaper.”

    “They should live in fear,” tweeted @WarthogJim, whose account was suspended Friday morning.

    Alt-right activist Laura Loomer tied the shootings to recent comments from U.S. Rep. Maxine Waters, a California Democrat who called for Trump administration staffers to be harassed while out in public.

    “I wonder if the shooter in Annapolis today is a supporter of @RepMaxine Waters …” Loomer wrote on Twitter shortly after the shooting took place.

    Others took on the reporters as a stereotype, lumping everyone working in journalism into a group up to no good.

    “If they work for a newspaper, they’ve got to be douchebags,” wrote @GabrielWest, posting as “Joe Lincoln” on Twitter. “Fuck’em. #Kapow #LyingLeftistLosers #FuckTheLeftistMedia.”

    But, for all the anger, conspiracies and stereotypes about those killed, no one on the far-right mentioned the names of the five people with families, friends and loved ones who were killed: Robert Hiaasen, John McNamara, Gerald Fischman, Wendi Winters and Rebecca Smith.



    i have a feeling there's more of this to come.  what a sad time to be an American.
    Yes, a major shit storm's a brewing.
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  • brianlux said:
    What can I say?  This article speaks for itself.   Very f'd up.


    After five people were gunned down in their own newsroom, the normally feisty editorial page of the Capital-Gazette newspaper in Annapolis, Maryland, went silent Friday.

    “Today, we are speechless,” the page said. “This page is intentionally left blank today to commemorate victims of Thursday’s shootings at our office.”

    But, among the far-right, activists were anything but silent, celebrating, speculating and casting blame for the shooting of a group of local reporters and editors who cover the central Maryland community.

    “We don’t give a fuck about you, journalist,” tweeted Nicholas Fuentes, a YouTube personality who attended the “Unite the Right” rally in Charlottesville, Virginia.

    Hundreds of posts, tweets and comments populated Twitter, the alt-right social network Gab, 4chan and other social media outlets, condemning the five people killed in what they expected to be just another day at work.

    The posts ranged from conspiratorial to wondering if the shooter was Jewish — a favorite target of the alt-right — to outright blaming the reporters for what happened to them.

    “Wowza. Maybe it was a Jew, but probably a goy,” wrote AltonRocht, on The Daily Stormer. “Let’s try to push an offensive narrative for this. The media, and the anti-white forces in American mean that these shootings will grow more frequent.”

    Police arrested Jarrod Warren Ramos, a 38-year-old white man with a long history of grievances against the newspaper. He’s charged with five counts of first-degree murder.

    The shooting came just days after President Donald Trump, at a campaign rally, pointed to a group of reporters and called them the “enemy of the American people” and alt-right provocateur Milo Yiannopoulos said he couldn’t “wait for the vigilante squads to start gunning journalists down on sight.”

    Yiannopoulos later referred to the comment as a joke, saying he wasn’t serious and police haven’t commented on a motive.

    Andrew Anglin, the blogger and primary voice behind the racist and antisemitic website The Daily Stormer, posted a long diatribe about Yiannopoulos on Friday morning, and dismissed the deaths of the five journalists at the end.

    "But seriously — just straight talk here — there is no single group of people on the planet that is more deserving of just getting gunned down like animals," Anglin wrote.

    For far-right adherents, the shooting spurred on conspiracies and celebration that journalists, never a popular group with the alt-right, were dead.

    “Is there only 2 options here,” wrote a poster going by “Lucky” on Daily Stormer. “1. The beginning of our side taking out the real enemy. 2. False flag attack. If it was our guy, they would have killed him. So strange, how kikes pretending to be white, get taken alive.”

    Christopher Cantwell, best known as the “Crying Nazi” after the Unite the Right rally, kept his thoughts simple: “#MAGA” posted over a picture of Yiannopoulos and a Drudge Report headline “Shooting at Newspaper.”

    “They should live in fear,” tweeted @WarthogJim, whose account was suspended Friday morning.

    Alt-right activist Laura Loomer tied the shootings to recent comments from U.S. Rep. Maxine Waters, a California Democrat who called for Trump administration staffers to be harassed while out in public.

    “I wonder if the shooter in Annapolis today is a supporter of @RepMaxine Waters …” Loomer wrote on Twitter shortly after the shooting took place.

    Others took on the reporters as a stereotype, lumping everyone working in journalism into a group up to no good.

    “If they work for a newspaper, they’ve got to be douchebags,” wrote @GabrielWest, posting as “Joe Lincoln” on Twitter. “Fuck’em. #Kapow #LyingLeftistLosers #FuckTheLeftistMedia.”

    But, for all the anger, conspiracies and stereotypes about those killed, no one on the far-right mentioned the names of the five people with families, friends and loved ones who were killed: Robert Hiaasen, John McNamara, Gerald Fischman, Wendi Winters and Rebecca Smith.



    Absolutely nuts. Terrifying really.

    Peoole can't be that far gone.
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    Sure they can
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,000
    brianlux said:
    What can I say?  This article speaks for itself.   Very f'd up.


    After five people were gunned down in their own newsroom, the normally feisty editorial page of the Capital-Gazette newspaper in Annapolis, Maryland, went silent Friday.

    “Today, we are speechless,” the page said. “This page is intentionally left blank today to commemorate victims of Thursday’s shootings at our office.”

    But, among the far-right, activists were anything but silent, celebrating, speculating and casting blame for the shooting of a group of local reporters and editors who cover the central Maryland community.

    “We don’t give a fuck about you, journalist,” tweeted Nicholas Fuentes, a YouTube personality who attended the “Unite the Right” rally in Charlottesville, Virginia.

    Hundreds of posts, tweets and comments populated Twitter, the alt-right social network Gab, 4chan and other social media outlets, condemning the five people killed in what they expected to be just another day at work.

    The posts ranged from conspiratorial to wondering if the shooter was Jewish — a favorite target of the alt-right — to outright blaming the reporters for what happened to them.

    “Wowza. Maybe it was a Jew, but probably a goy,” wrote AltonRocht, on The Daily Stormer. “Let’s try to push an offensive narrative for this. The media, and the anti-white forces in American mean that these shootings will grow more frequent.”

    Police arrested Jarrod Warren Ramos, a 38-year-old white man with a long history of grievances against the newspaper. He’s charged with five counts of first-degree murder.

    The shooting came just days after President Donald Trump, at a campaign rally, pointed to a group of reporters and called them the “enemy of the American people” and alt-right provocateur Milo Yiannopoulos said he couldn’t “wait for the vigilante squads to start gunning journalists down on sight.”

    Yiannopoulos later referred to the comment as a joke, saying he wasn’t serious and police haven’t commented on a motive.

    Andrew Anglin, the blogger and primary voice behind the racist and antisemitic website The Daily Stormer, posted a long diatribe about Yiannopoulos on Friday morning, and dismissed the deaths of the five journalists at the end.

    "But seriously — just straight talk here — there is no single group of people on the planet that is more deserving of just getting gunned down like animals," Anglin wrote.

    For far-right adherents, the shooting spurred on conspiracies and celebration that journalists, never a popular group with the alt-right, were dead.

    “Is there only 2 options here,” wrote a poster going by “Lucky” on Daily Stormer. “1. The beginning of our side taking out the real enemy. 2. False flag attack. If it was our guy, they would have killed him. So strange, how kikes pretending to be white, get taken alive.”

    Christopher Cantwell, best known as the “Crying Nazi” after the Unite the Right rally, kept his thoughts simple: “#MAGA” posted over a picture of Yiannopoulos and a Drudge Report headline “Shooting at Newspaper.”

    “They should live in fear,” tweeted @WarthogJim, whose account was suspended Friday morning.

    Alt-right activist Laura Loomer tied the shootings to recent comments from U.S. Rep. Maxine Waters, a California Democrat who called for Trump administration staffers to be harassed while out in public.

    “I wonder if the shooter in Annapolis today is a supporter of @RepMaxine Waters …” Loomer wrote on Twitter shortly after the shooting took place.

    Others took on the reporters as a stereotype, lumping everyone working in journalism into a group up to no good.

    “If they work for a newspaper, they’ve got to be douchebags,” wrote @GabrielWest, posting as “Joe Lincoln” on Twitter. “Fuck’em. #Kapow #LyingLeftistLosers #FuckTheLeftistMedia.”

    But, for all the anger, conspiracies and stereotypes about those killed, no one on the far-right mentioned the names of the five people with families, friends and loved ones who were killed: Robert Hiaasen, John McNamara, Gerald Fischman, Wendi Winters and Rebecca Smith.



    Absolutely nuts. Terrifying really.

    Peoole can't be that far gone.
    Some of them post on here. And we’re supposed to be afraid of Maxine Waters. Hey, it’s just an echo chamber in here, right?

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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,006
    brianlux said:
    What can I say?  This article speaks for itself.   Very f'd up.


    After five people were gunned down in their own newsroom, the normally feisty editorial page of the Capital-Gazette newspaper in Annapolis, Maryland, went silent Friday.

    “Today, we are speechless,” the page said. “This page is intentionally left blank today to commemorate victims of Thursday’s shootings at our office.”

    But, among the far-right, activists were anything but silent, celebrating, speculating and casting blame for the shooting of a group of local reporters and editors who cover the central Maryland community.

    “We don’t give a fuck about you, journalist,” tweeted Nicholas Fuentes, a YouTube personality who attended the “Unite the Right” rally in Charlottesville, Virginia.

    Hundreds of posts, tweets and comments populated Twitter, the alt-right social network Gab, 4chan and other social media outlets, condemning the five people killed in what they expected to be just another day at work.

    The posts ranged from conspiratorial to wondering if the shooter was Jewish — a favorite target of the alt-right — to outright blaming the reporters for what happened to them.

    “Wowza. Maybe it was a Jew, but probably a goy,” wrote AltonRocht, on The Daily Stormer. “Let’s try to push an offensive narrative for this. The media, and the anti-white forces in American mean that these shootings will grow more frequent.”

    Police arrested Jarrod Warren Ramos, a 38-year-old white man with a long history of grievances against the newspaper. He’s charged with five counts of first-degree murder.

    The shooting came just days after President Donald Trump, at a campaign rally, pointed to a group of reporters and called them the “enemy of the American people” and alt-right provocateur Milo Yiannopoulos said he couldn’t “wait for the vigilante squads to start gunning journalists down on sight.”

    Yiannopoulos later referred to the comment as a joke, saying he wasn’t serious and police haven’t commented on a motive.

    Andrew Anglin, the blogger and primary voice behind the racist and antisemitic website The Daily Stormer, posted a long diatribe about Yiannopoulos on Friday morning, and dismissed the deaths of the five journalists at the end.

    "But seriously — just straight talk here — there is no single group of people on the planet that is more deserving of just getting gunned down like animals," Anglin wrote.

    For far-right adherents, the shooting spurred on conspiracies and celebration that journalists, never a popular group with the alt-right, were dead.

    “Is there only 2 options here,” wrote a poster going by “Lucky” on Daily Stormer. “1. The beginning of our side taking out the real enemy. 2. False flag attack. If it was our guy, they would have killed him. So strange, how kikes pretending to be white, get taken alive.”

    Christopher Cantwell, best known as the “Crying Nazi” after the Unite the Right rally, kept his thoughts simple: “#MAGA” posted over a picture of Yiannopoulos and a Drudge Report headline “Shooting at Newspaper.”

    “They should live in fear,” tweeted @WarthogJim, whose account was suspended Friday morning.

    Alt-right activist Laura Loomer tied the shootings to recent comments from U.S. Rep. Maxine Waters, a California Democrat who called for Trump administration staffers to be harassed while out in public.

    “I wonder if the shooter in Annapolis today is a supporter of @RepMaxine Waters …” Loomer wrote on Twitter shortly after the shooting took place.

    Others took on the reporters as a stereotype, lumping everyone working in journalism into a group up to no good.

    “If they work for a newspaper, they’ve got to be douchebags,” wrote @GabrielWest, posting as “Joe Lincoln” on Twitter. “Fuck’em. #Kapow #LyingLeftistLosers #FuckTheLeftistMedia.”

    But, for all the anger, conspiracies and stereotypes about those killed, no one on the far-right mentioned the names of the five people with families, friends and loved ones who were killed: Robert Hiaasen, John McNamara, Gerald Fischman, Wendi Winters and Rebecca Smith.



    Absolutely nuts. Terrifying really.

    Peoole can't be that far gone.

    my2hands said:
    Sure they can
    Sad but true.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,000
    How dare they.

    These Photos Of Chicago's Gun Violence Protest Show People Are Tired Of Waiting For Change - Bustle https://apple.news/AKRf5tfPwS1SQj7-RF2zwFA
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    Now fireworks are being shot at people.
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  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer Posts: 16,435
    brianlux said:
    What can I say?  This article speaks for itself.   Very f'd up.


    After five people were gunned down in their own newsroom, the normally feisty editorial page of the Capital-Gazette newspaper in Annapolis, Maryland, went silent Friday.

    “Today, we are speechless,” the page said. “This page is intentionally left blank today to commemorate victims of Thursday’s shootings at our office.”

    But, among the far-right, activists were anything but silent, celebrating, speculating and casting blame for the shooting of a group of local reporters and editors who cover the central Maryland community.

    “We don’t give a fuck about you, journalist,” tweeted Nicholas Fuentes, a YouTube personality who attended the “Unite the Right” rally in Charlottesville, Virginia.

    Hundreds of posts, tweets and comments populated Twitter, the alt-right social network Gab, 4chan and other social media outlets, condemning the five people killed in what they expected to be just another day at work.

    The posts ranged from conspiratorial to wondering if the shooter was Jewish — a favorite target of the alt-right — to outright blaming the reporters for what happened to them.

    “Wowza. Maybe it was a Jew, but probably a goy,” wrote AltonRocht, on The Daily Stormer. “Let’s try to push an offensive narrative for this. The media, and the anti-white forces in American mean that these shootings will grow more frequent.”

    Police arrested Jarrod Warren Ramos, a 38-year-old white man with a long history of grievances against the newspaper. He’s charged with five counts of first-degree murder.

    The shooting came just days after President Donald Trump, at a campaign rally, pointed to a group of reporters and called them the “enemy of the American people” and alt-right provocateur Milo Yiannopoulos said he couldn’t “wait for the vigilante squads to start gunning journalists down on sight.”

    Yiannopoulos later referred to the comment as a joke, saying he wasn’t serious and police haven’t commented on a motive.

    Andrew Anglin, the blogger and primary voice behind the racist and antisemitic website The Daily Stormer, posted a long diatribe about Yiannopoulos on Friday morning, and dismissed the deaths of the five journalists at the end.

    "But seriously — just straight talk here — there is no single group of people on the planet that is more deserving of just getting gunned down like animals," Anglin wrote.

    For far-right adherents, the shooting spurred on conspiracies and celebration that journalists, never a popular group with the alt-right, were dead.

    “Is there only 2 options here,” wrote a poster going by “Lucky” on Daily Stormer. “1. The beginning of our side taking out the real enemy. 2. False flag attack. If it was our guy, they would have killed him. So strange, how kikes pretending to be white, get taken alive.”

    Christopher Cantwell, best known as the “Crying Nazi” after the Unite the Right rally, kept his thoughts simple: “#MAGA” posted over a picture of Yiannopoulos and a Drudge Report headline “Shooting at Newspaper.”

    “They should live in fear,” tweeted @WarthogJim, whose account was suspended Friday morning.

    Alt-right activist Laura Loomer tied the shootings to recent comments from U.S. Rep. Maxine Waters, a California Democrat who called for Trump administration staffers to be harassed while out in public.

    “I wonder if the shooter in Annapolis today is a supporter of @RepMaxine Waters …” Loomer wrote on Twitter shortly after the shooting took place.

    Others took on the reporters as a stereotype, lumping everyone working in journalism into a group up to no good.

    “If they work for a newspaper, they’ve got to be douchebags,” wrote @GabrielWest, posting as “Joe Lincoln” on Twitter. “Fuck’em. #Kapow #LyingLeftistLosers #FuckTheLeftistMedia.”

    But, for all the anger, conspiracies and stereotypes about those killed, no one on the far-right mentioned the names of the five people with families, friends and loved ones who were killed: Robert Hiaasen, John McNamara, Gerald Fischman, Wendi Winters and Rebecca Smith.



    Absolutely nuts. Terrifying really.

    Peoole can't be that far gone.
    Look who we elected as President. We’ve been far gone for a while. As a holocaust historian stated, this isn’t how things begin, this is several stages in.
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,437
    good god. It is incredible to me, surprising me on a daily basis, that people like this exist in 2018. is it all trump's fault? I don't know. I think the fire was always smoldering, but he's throwing fuel on it for sure. 
    It’s more than fuel. He is giving them a call to action. 
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,000
    Can’t begin to understand the problem unless you can study the problem but the NRA and repubes know it’s bad for business. Sure, both sides want reasonable gun control reform.

    House GOP appropriators block funding for gun violence research - POLITICO https://apple.news/AtQYnltTkRca_tRAh8eTZnA
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,000
    Gun nuts.

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,000
    And more “responsible” gun owners or Darwins?

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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,805
    Well, some on here would just write that 5 year old death off as the reality of stupid people existing amongst our 325 million population. Just nothing you can do about it. Guns are essential in every day life. Children are expendable youth. 
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    tbergs said:
    Well, some on here would just write that 5 year old death off as the reality of stupid people existing amongst our 325 million population. Just nothing you can do about it. Guns are essential in every day life. Children are expendable youth. 
    Maybe if you click your heals three times all guns will magically disappear!
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,519
    edited July 2018
    PJPOWER said:
    tbergs said:
    Well, some on here would just write that 5 year old death off as the reality of stupid people existing amongst our 325 million population. Just nothing you can do about it. Guns are essential in every day life. Children are expendable youth. 
    Maybe if you click your heals three times all guns will magically disappear!
    http://www.slate.com/blogs/crime/2012/12/16/gun_control_after_connecticut_shooting_could_australia_s_laws_provide_a.html?via=gdpr-consent

    Twelve days later, Australia’s government did something remarkable. Led by newly elected conservative Prime Minister John Howard, it announced a bipartisan deal with state and local governments to enact sweeping gun-control measures. A decade and a half hence, the results of these policy changes are clear: They worked really, really well.
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    PJPOWER said:
    tbergs said:
    Well, some on here would just write that 5 year old death off as the reality of stupid people existing amongst our 325 million population. Just nothing you can do about it. Guns are essential in every day life. Children are expendable youth. 
    Maybe if you click your heals three times all guns will magically disappear!
    http://www.slate.com/blogs/crime/2012/12/16/gun_control_after_connecticut_shooting_could_australia_s_laws_provide_a.html?via=gdpr-consent

    Twelve days later, Australia’s government did something remarkable. Led by newly elected conservative Prime Minister John Howard, it announced a bipartisan deal with state and local governments to enact sweeping gun-control measures. A decade and a half hence, the results of these policy changes are clear: They worked really, really well.
    Is this you clicking your heals?
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,489
    edited July 2018
    PJPOWER said:
    tbergs said:
    Well, some on here would just write that 5 year old death off as the reality of stupid people existing amongst our 325 million population. Just nothing you can do about it. Guns are essential in every day life. Children are expendable youth. 
    Maybe if you click your heals three times all guns will magically disappear!
    http://www.slate.com/blogs/crime/2012/12/16/gun_control_after_connecticut_shooting_could_australia_s_laws_provide_a.html?via=gdpr-consent

    Twelve days later, Australia’s government did something remarkable. Led by newly elected conservative Prime Minister John Howard, it announced a bipartisan deal with state and local governments to enact sweeping gun-control measures. A decade and a half hence, the results of these policy changes are clear: They worked really, really well.
    Australia isn't the U.S. (600,000 weapons were bought back as compared to tens (?) of millions in the u.s.)  
    Post edited by mcgruff10 on
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,845
    PJPOWER said:
    tbergs said:
    Well, some on here would just write that 5 year old death off as the reality of stupid people existing amongst our 325 million population. Just nothing you can do about it. Guns are essential in every day life. Children are expendable youth. 
    Maybe if you click your heals three times all guns will magically disappear!
    http://www.slate.com/blogs/crime/2012/12/16/gun_control_after_connecticut_shooting_could_australia_s_laws_provide_a.html?via=gdpr-consent

    Twelve days later, Australia’s government did something remarkable. Led by newly elected conservative Prime Minister John Howard, it announced a bipartisan deal with state and local governments to enact sweeping gun-control measures. A decade and a half hence, the results of these policy changes are clear: They worked really, really well.
    Reading through the thread, I was going to post “just wait for the Australia isn’t the US comment”, but lo and behold it’s already here. I guess we just have to do nothing, because no other country is the US. 
     
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