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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,823
    mace1229 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    So serious question guys: what are your thoughts/opinions if a shooter brings a 1000 rounds of ammo to a range?
    granted all laws are being followed: firearms are secure and guns and ammo are separate. 
    Why would they need to bring 1000 rounds to the range? Why couldn’t the range supply the ammo? I don’t understand why anyone would need 1000 rounds in their possession. How many rounds does a combat soldier take on patrol or on a mission to kill the enemy? On average?
    I probably have brought 1000 rounds of ammo to a range. As mentioned, range ammo is about double what you can get other places. Just like everything else you can possibly buy, ammo is cheaper in bulk. I used to buy 300-500 rounds at a time because it would be double the cost of 100 rounds.
    So why did I bring 1000 rounds to the range? Instead of a bachelor party at a strip club, mine was at a range. Had about 15 friends go with me. Most didn't own guns, and was just easier to have everyone pay me $50 and I buy all the ammo we needed. I can't remember how much ammo we brought, but was probably 2-3000 rounds. 
    .22 ammo is so small it is often sold in boxes of 550 that is about the size of a softball. I'm guessing I probably had at least 2 boxes since half my guns are .22. And at least 1000 rounds of other ammo, probably more. Going through 100 rounds of ammo doesn't take long, easily less than an hour. So it makes sense to bring 2-3000 rounds when there was about 15 people there.
    Probably not the scenario you had in mind. But if I saw just 1 person with 1000+ rounds, I'd probably just think he plans to sight in and practice with several guns and plans to be there 8 hours. Maybe he just got a few new ones he wants to try before entering a competition, maybe he wants to try different ammo, maybe he has to drive far and only goes once a year so wants to make a day of it. Maybe he just had a better deal on bulk ammo and keeps it all in one ammo can. I can tell you I only buy .22 ammo in those 550 boxes, and usually buy 2 or 3 boxes when I can, because sometimes they can be hard to find.
    In any case, I wouldn't really think much of it. Unless he started pulling out some illegal belt fed weapon that can go through 1000 rounds in a few minutes, then he'd probably just be kicked out and banned.
    I have to admit I find it quite disturbing that your stag party was at a shooting range. I know to you it's a hobby but I guess it just highlights the cultural difference between America and countries that don't have such high levels of gun violence (I.e. every other first world country). To you it's so normal to be around guns and for them to be commonplace, this is just so alien to me and for that I am extremely thankful
    Why?  it wasn't common place for most of them. Half the group never shot a gun before, the other half maybe just 2 or 3 times. All thought it was fun because it was different. SO it was something different for everyone and we all had a great time. Unless just the existence of a shooting range is disturbing to you, what difference does it make why and when someone goes?
    I find it disturbing that a large portion of guys I know want to celebrate getting married by going to a strip club and dragging all their friends, half already married, with them. Thats so disrespectful to your soon to be wife to celebrate the wedding by one last fling with a stranger, that is disturbing to me that has become the norm for a bachelor party (especially living 3 hours from Vegas that was the norm). Not saying that is you, but I didn't want that for me.  I wanted something different. 
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,535
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    So serious question guys: what are your thoughts/opinions if a shooter brings a 1000 rounds of ammo to a range?
    granted all laws are being followed: firearms are secure and guns and ammo are separate. 
    Why would they need to bring 1000 rounds to the range? Why couldn’t the range supply the ammo? I don’t understand why anyone would need 1000 rounds in their possession. How many rounds does a combat soldier take on patrol or on a mission to kill the enemy? On average?
    I probably have brought 1000 rounds of ammo to a range. As mentioned, range ammo is about double what you can get other places. Just like everything else you can possibly buy, ammo is cheaper in bulk. I used to buy 300-500 rounds at a time because it would be double the cost of 100 rounds.
    So why did I bring 1000 rounds to the range? Instead of a bachelor party at a strip club, mine was at a range. Had about 15 friends go with me. Most didn't own guns, and was just easier to have everyone pay me $50 and I buy all the ammo we needed. I can't remember how much ammo we brought, but was probably 2-3000 rounds. 
    .22 ammo is so small it is often sold in boxes of 550 that is about the size of a softball. I'm guessing I probably had at least 2 boxes since half my guns are .22. And at least 1000 rounds of other ammo, probably more. Going through 100 rounds of ammo doesn't take long, easily less than an hour. So it makes sense to bring 2-3000 rounds when there was about 15 people there.
    Probably not the scenario you had in mind. But if I saw just 1 person with 1000+ rounds, I'd probably just think he plans to sight in and practice with several guns and plans to be there 8 hours. Maybe he just got a few new ones he wants to try before entering a competition, maybe he wants to try different ammo, maybe he has to drive far and only goes once a year so wants to make a day of it. Maybe he just had a better deal on bulk ammo and keeps it all in one ammo can. I can tell you I only buy .22 ammo in those 550 boxes, and usually buy 2 or 3 boxes when I can, because sometimes they can be hard to find.
    In any case, I wouldn't really think much of it. Unless he started pulling out some illegal belt fed weapon that can go through 1000 rounds in a few minutes, then he'd probably just be kicked out and banned.
    I have to admit I find it quite disturbing that your stag party was at a shooting range. I know to you it's a hobby but I guess it just highlights the cultural difference between America and countries that don't have such high levels of gun violence (I.e. every other first world country). To you it's so normal to be around guns and for them to be commonplace, this is just so alien to me and for that I am extremely thankful
    Why?  it wasn't common place for most of them. Half the group never shot a gun before, the other half maybe just 2 or 3 times. All thought it was fun because it was different. SO it was something different for everyone and we all had a great time. Unless just the existence of a shooting range is disturbing to you, what difference does it make why and when someone goes?
    I find it disturbing that a large portion of guys I know want to celebrate getting married by going to a strip club and dragging all their friends, half already married, with them. Thats so disrespectful to your soon to be wife to celebrate the wedding by one last fling with a stranger, that is disturbing to me that has become the norm for a bachelor party (especially living 3 hours from Vegas that was the norm). Not saying that is you, but I didn't want that for me.  I wanted something different. 
    If you haven’t noticed yet, other countries find American’s relationship with guns bizarre. 
  • riley540
    riley540 Denver Colorado Posts: 1,132
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    So serious question guys: what are your thoughts/opinions if a shooter brings a 1000 rounds of ammo to a range?
    granted all laws are being followed: firearms are secure and guns and ammo are separate. 
    Why would they need to bring 1000 rounds to the range? Why couldn’t the range supply the ammo? I don’t understand why anyone would need 1000 rounds in their possession. How many rounds does a combat soldier take on patrol or on a mission to kill the enemy? On average?
    I probably have brought 1000 rounds of ammo to a range. As mentioned, range ammo is about double what you can get other places. Just like everything else you can possibly buy, ammo is cheaper in bulk. I used to buy 300-500 rounds at a time because it would be double the cost of 100 rounds.
    So why did I bring 1000 rounds to the range? Instead of a bachelor party at a strip club, mine was at a range. Had about 15 friends go with me. Most didn't own guns, and was just easier to have everyone pay me $50 and I buy all the ammo we needed. I can't remember how much ammo we brought, but was probably 2-3000 rounds. 
    .22 ammo is so small it is often sold in boxes of 550 that is about the size of a softball. I'm guessing I probably had at least 2 boxes since half my guns are .22. And at least 1000 rounds of other ammo, probably more. Going through 100 rounds of ammo doesn't take long, easily less than an hour. So it makes sense to bring 2-3000 rounds when there was about 15 people there.
    Probably not the scenario you had in mind. But if I saw just 1 person with 1000+ rounds, I'd probably just think he plans to sight in and practice with several guns and plans to be there 8 hours. Maybe he just got a few new ones he wants to try before entering a competition, maybe he wants to try different ammo, maybe he has to drive far and only goes once a year so wants to make a day of it. Maybe he just had a better deal on bulk ammo and keeps it all in one ammo can. I can tell you I only buy .22 ammo in those 550 boxes, and usually buy 2 or 3 boxes when I can, because sometimes they can be hard to find.
    In any case, I wouldn't really think much of it. Unless he started pulling out some illegal belt fed weapon that can go through 1000 rounds in a few minutes, then he'd probably just be kicked out and banned.
    I have to admit I find it quite disturbing that your stag party was at a shooting range. I know to you it's a hobby but I guess it just highlights the cultural difference between America and countries that don't have such high levels of gun violence (I.e. every other first world country). To you it's so normal to be around guns and for them to be commonplace, this is just so alien to me and for that I am extremely thankful
    Why?  it wasn't common place for most of them. Half the group never shot a gun before, the other half maybe just 2 or 3 times. All thought it was fun because it was different. SO it was something different for everyone and we all had a great time. Unless just the existence of a shooting range is disturbing to you, what difference does it make why and when someone goes?
    I find it disturbing that a large portion of guys I know want to celebrate getting married by going to a strip club and dragging all their friends, half already married, with them. Thats so disrespectful to your soon to be wife to celebrate the wedding by one last fling with a stranger, that is disturbing to me that has become the norm for a bachelor party (especially living 3 hours from Vegas that was the norm). Not saying that is you, but I didn't want that for me.  I wanted something different. 
    If you haven’t noticed yet, other countries find American’s relationship with guns bizarre. 
    Other countries don’t learn American History 
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    riley540 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    So serious question guys: what are your thoughts/opinions if a shooter brings a 1000 rounds of ammo to a range?
    granted all laws are being followed: firearms are secure and guns and ammo are separate. 
    Why would they need to bring 1000 rounds to the range? Why couldn’t the range supply the ammo? I don’t understand why anyone would need 1000 rounds in their possession. How many rounds does a combat soldier take on patrol or on a mission to kill the enemy? On average?
    I probably have brought 1000 rounds of ammo to a range. As mentioned, range ammo is about double what you can get other places. Just like everything else you can possibly buy, ammo is cheaper in bulk. I used to buy 300-500 rounds at a time because it would be double the cost of 100 rounds.
    So why did I bring 1000 rounds to the range? Instead of a bachelor party at a strip club, mine was at a range. Had about 15 friends go with me. Most didn't own guns, and was just easier to have everyone pay me $50 and I buy all the ammo we needed. I can't remember how much ammo we brought, but was probably 2-3000 rounds. 
    .22 ammo is so small it is often sold in boxes of 550 that is about the size of a softball. I'm guessing I probably had at least 2 boxes since half my guns are .22. And at least 1000 rounds of other ammo, probably more. Going through 100 rounds of ammo doesn't take long, easily less than an hour. So it makes sense to bring 2-3000 rounds when there was about 15 people there.
    Probably not the scenario you had in mind. But if I saw just 1 person with 1000+ rounds, I'd probably just think he plans to sight in and practice with several guns and plans to be there 8 hours. Maybe he just got a few new ones he wants to try before entering a competition, maybe he wants to try different ammo, maybe he has to drive far and only goes once a year so wants to make a day of it. Maybe he just had a better deal on bulk ammo and keeps it all in one ammo can. I can tell you I only buy .22 ammo in those 550 boxes, and usually buy 2 or 3 boxes when I can, because sometimes they can be hard to find.
    In any case, I wouldn't really think much of it. Unless he started pulling out some illegal belt fed weapon that can go through 1000 rounds in a few minutes, then he'd probably just be kicked out and banned.
    I have to admit I find it quite disturbing that your stag party was at a shooting range. I know to you it's a hobby but I guess it just highlights the cultural difference between America and countries that don't have such high levels of gun violence (I.e. every other first world country). To you it's so normal to be around guns and for them to be commonplace, this is just so alien to me and for that I am extremely thankful
    Why?  it wasn't common place for most of them. Half the group never shot a gun before, the other half maybe just 2 or 3 times. All thought it was fun because it was different. SO it was something different for everyone and we all had a great time. Unless just the existence of a shooting range is disturbing to you, what difference does it make why and when someone goes?
    I find it disturbing that a large portion of guys I know want to celebrate getting married by going to a strip club and dragging all their friends, half already married, with them. Thats so disrespectful to your soon to be wife to celebrate the wedding by one last fling with a stranger, that is disturbing to me that has become the norm for a bachelor party (especially living 3 hours from Vegas that was the norm). Not saying that is you, but I didn't want that for me.  I wanted something different. 
    If you haven’t noticed yet, other countries find American’s relationship with guns bizarre. 
    Other countries don’t learn American History 

    That's so naive it's laughable.

    Other countries learn far more history than Americans do.
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • riley540
    riley540 Denver Colorado Posts: 1,132
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    So serious question guys: what are your thoughts/opinions if a shooter brings a 1000 rounds of ammo to a range?
    granted all laws are being followed: firearms are secure and guns and ammo are separate. 
    Why would they need to bring 1000 rounds to the range? Why couldn’t the range supply the ammo? I don’t understand why anyone would need 1000 rounds in their possession. How many rounds does a combat soldier take on patrol or on a mission to kill the enemy? On average?
    I probably have brought 1000 rounds of ammo to a range. As mentioned, range ammo is about double what you can get other places. Just like everything else you can possibly buy, ammo is cheaper in bulk. I used to buy 300-500 rounds at a time because it would be double the cost of 100 rounds.
    So why did I bring 1000 rounds to the range? Instead of a bachelor party at a strip club, mine was at a range. Had about 15 friends go with me. Most didn't own guns, and was just easier to have everyone pay me $50 and I buy all the ammo we needed. I can't remember how much ammo we brought, but was probably 2-3000 rounds. 
    .22 ammo is so small it is often sold in boxes of 550 that is about the size of a softball. I'm guessing I probably had at least 2 boxes since half my guns are .22. And at least 1000 rounds of other ammo, probably more. Going through 100 rounds of ammo doesn't take long, easily less than an hour. So it makes sense to bring 2-3000 rounds when there was about 15 people there.
    Probably not the scenario you had in mind. But if I saw just 1 person with 1000+ rounds, I'd probably just think he plans to sight in and practice with several guns and plans to be there 8 hours. Maybe he just got a few new ones he wants to try before entering a competition, maybe he wants to try different ammo, maybe he has to drive far and only goes once a year so wants to make a day of it. Maybe he just had a better deal on bulk ammo and keeps it all in one ammo can. I can tell you I only buy .22 ammo in those 550 boxes, and usually buy 2 or 3 boxes when I can, because sometimes they can be hard to find.
    In any case, I wouldn't really think much of it. Unless he started pulling out some illegal belt fed weapon that can go through 1000 rounds in a few minutes, then he'd probably just be kicked out and banned.
    I have to admit I find it quite disturbing that your stag party was at a shooting range. I know to you it's a hobby but I guess it just highlights the cultural difference between America and countries that don't have such high levels of gun violence (I.e. every other first world country). To you it's so normal to be around guns and for them to be commonplace, this is just so alien to me and for that I am extremely thankful
    Why?  it wasn't common place for most of them. Half the group never shot a gun before, the other half maybe just 2 or 3 times. All thought it was fun because it was different. SO it was something different for everyone and we all had a great time. Unless just the existence of a shooting range is disturbing to you, what difference does it make why and when someone goes?
    I find it disturbing that a large portion of guys I know want to celebrate getting married by going to a strip club and dragging all their friends, half already married, with them. Thats so disrespectful to your soon to be wife to celebrate the wedding by one last fling with a stranger, that is disturbing to me that has become the norm for a bachelor party (especially living 3 hours from Vegas that was the norm). Not saying that is you, but I didn't want that for me.  I wanted something different. 
    If you haven’t noticed yet, other countries find American’s relationship with guns bizarre. 
    Other countries don’t learn American History 

    evidence? And I stated American history specifically. 
  • unsung
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    mace1229 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    So serious question guys: what are your thoughts/opinions if a shooter brings a 1000 rounds of ammo to a range?
    granted all laws are being followed: firearms are secure and guns and ammo are separate. 
    Why would they need to bring 1000 rounds to the range? Why couldn’t the range supply the ammo? I don’t understand why anyone would need 1000 rounds in their possession. How many rounds does a combat soldier take on patrol or on a mission to kill the enemy? On average?
    I probably have brought 1000 rounds of ammo to a range. As mentioned, range ammo is about double what you can get other places. Just like everything else you can possibly buy, ammo is cheaper in bulk. I used to buy 300-500 rounds at a time because it would be double the cost of 100 rounds.
    So why did I bring 1000 rounds to the range? Instead of a bachelor party at a strip club, mine was at a range. Had about 15 friends go with me. Most didn't own guns, and was just easier to have everyone pay me $50 and I buy all the ammo we needed. I can't remember how much ammo we brought, but was probably 2-3000 rounds. 
    .22 ammo is so small it is often sold in boxes of 550 that is about the size of a softball. I'm guessing I probably had at least 2 boxes since half my guns are .22. And at least 1000 rounds of other ammo, probably more. Going through 100 rounds of ammo doesn't take long, easily less than an hour. So it makes sense to bring 2-3000 rounds when there was about 15 people there.
    Probably not the scenario you had in mind. But if I saw just 1 person with 1000+ rounds, I'd probably just think he plans to sight in and practice with several guns and plans to be there 8 hours. Maybe he just got a few new ones he wants to try before entering a competition, maybe he wants to try different ammo, maybe he has to drive far and only goes once a year so wants to make a day of it. Maybe he just had a better deal on bulk ammo and keeps it all in one ammo can. I can tell you I only buy .22 ammo in those 550 boxes, and usually buy 2 or 3 boxes when I can, because sometimes they can be hard to find.
    In any case, I wouldn't really think much of it. Unless he started pulling out some illegal belt fed weapon that can go through 1000 rounds in a few minutes, then he'd probably just be kicked out and banned.
    I have to admit I find it quite disturbing that your stag party was at a shooting range. I know to you it's a hobby but I guess it just highlights the cultural difference between America and countries that don't have such high levels of gun violence (I.e. every other first world country). To you it's so normal to be around guns and for them to be commonplace, this is just so alien to me and for that I am extremely thankful
    I have seen some of the Euro stag parties.  A friend of mine live in the capital of a small country and every weekend the stag groups come into town, get extremely drunk, start fights, break stuff.  

    A range day by comparison was fun and relaxing.
  • unsung
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    CM189191 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Halifax, it s proven that bullets in a fire don't fly out like they do when shot out of a gun. Sure it s loud and scary but it is not the same. 
    Why their reluctance to get close then? Surely they’d learn that at the fire academy?


    Residential Fires & Exploding Ammunition

    Without getting into the debate about our freedom to bear arms... one thing remains clear... There are a a lot of folks out there with guns and ammunition. Here in California, and don't quote me on this... there seems to be a push to limit access to guns and ammunition from people in an effort to protect us from criminals...  

    What this has generated is a fear that the US Government will further restrict access and make it impossible to get ammunition in the future. This fear has created another example of the "Costco" mentality, where people hoard or purchase more than than they really need in fear of not being able to purchase it in the future or just buying things in bulk to save money. 

    Meanwhile, we're left holding the bag, so to speak. We still respond to house fires, but sometimes, there is a hidden hazard beyond aerosol cans and propane cylinders exploding.

    Ammunition Facts:

    Ammunition that is stored in the boxes sold by the manufacturer is not dangerous in a fire. If ignited by intense heat, the brass or plastic cartridge will burst. The particles will not travel very far. The protective clothing that firefighters wear will protect them.

    However, if ammunition is stored in a metal container such as a GI .50 caliber ammo box, the ammunition can explode under the right conditions.



    Source? Stockpiling ammo due to irrational fear. Nothing can be done.
    my bad on the lack of source (I was copying and pasting from my phone):  http://my.firefighternation.com/forum/topics/exploding-ammunition-is-this

    So if someone has a 1000 rounds of ammo they are stockpiling ammo due to irrational fear? What are you talking about?  

    Why does anyone need 1000 rounds at once?
  • unsung said:
    mace1229 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    So serious question guys: what are your thoughts/opinions if a shooter brings a 1000 rounds of ammo to a range?
    granted all laws are being followed: firearms are secure and guns and ammo are separate. 
    Why would they need to bring 1000 rounds to the range? Why couldn’t the range supply the ammo? I don’t understand why anyone would need 1000 rounds in their possession. How many rounds does a combat soldier take on patrol or on a mission to kill the enemy? On average?
    I probably have brought 1000 rounds of ammo to a range. As mentioned, range ammo is about double what you can get other places. Just like everything else you can possibly buy, ammo is cheaper in bulk. I used to buy 300-500 rounds at a time because it would be double the cost of 100 rounds.
    So why did I bring 1000 rounds to the range? Instead of a bachelor party at a strip club, mine was at a range. Had about 15 friends go with me. Most didn't own guns, and was just easier to have everyone pay me $50 and I buy all the ammo we needed. I can't remember how much ammo we brought, but was probably 2-3000 rounds. 
    .22 ammo is so small it is often sold in boxes of 550 that is about the size of a softball. I'm guessing I probably had at least 2 boxes since half my guns are .22. And at least 1000 rounds of other ammo, probably more. Going through 100 rounds of ammo doesn't take long, easily less than an hour. So it makes sense to bring 2-3000 rounds when there was about 15 people there.
    Probably not the scenario you had in mind. But if I saw just 1 person with 1000+ rounds, I'd probably just think he plans to sight in and practice with several guns and plans to be there 8 hours. Maybe he just got a few new ones he wants to try before entering a competition, maybe he wants to try different ammo, maybe he has to drive far and only goes once a year so wants to make a day of it. Maybe he just had a better deal on bulk ammo and keeps it all in one ammo can. I can tell you I only buy .22 ammo in those 550 boxes, and usually buy 2 or 3 boxes when I can, because sometimes they can be hard to find.
    In any case, I wouldn't really think much of it. Unless he started pulling out some illegal belt fed weapon that can go through 1000 rounds in a few minutes, then he'd probably just be kicked out and banned.
    I have to admit I find it quite disturbing that your stag party was at a shooting range. I know to you it's a hobby but I guess it just highlights the cultural difference between America and countries that don't have such high levels of gun violence (I.e. every other first world country). To you it's so normal to be around guns and for them to be commonplace, this is just so alien to me and for that I am extremely thankful
    I have seen some of the Euro stag parties.  A friend of mine live in the capital of a small country and every weekend the stag groups come into town, get extremely drunk, start fights, break stuff.  

    A range day by comparison was fun and relaxing.
    Let me guess, white males? Maybe your friend’s country should implement a ban?
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  • josevolution
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    Hey as long as you don't thread on my space I say have as many weapons as you want and fill your house with bullets too , I stay away from folks who own guns and weapons , I was a teen in the 70's in my 20's in the 80's I can tell you this gun fascination started in the 90's as I remember none of my friends owned any guns or rifles back then ..
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • unsung
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    unsung said:
    mace1229 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    So serious question guys: what are your thoughts/opinions if a shooter brings a 1000 rounds of ammo to a range?
    granted all laws are being followed: firearms are secure and guns and ammo are separate. 
    Why would they need to bring 1000 rounds to the range? Why couldn’t the range supply the ammo? I don’t understand why anyone would need 1000 rounds in their possession. How many rounds does a combat soldier take on patrol or on a mission to kill the enemy? On average?
    I probably have brought 1000 rounds of ammo to a range. As mentioned, range ammo is about double what you can get other places. Just like everything else you can possibly buy, ammo is cheaper in bulk. I used to buy 300-500 rounds at a time because it would be double the cost of 100 rounds.
    So why did I bring 1000 rounds to the range? Instead of a bachelor party at a strip club, mine was at a range. Had about 15 friends go with me. Most didn't own guns, and was just easier to have everyone pay me $50 and I buy all the ammo we needed. I can't remember how much ammo we brought, but was probably 2-3000 rounds. 
    .22 ammo is so small it is often sold in boxes of 550 that is about the size of a softball. I'm guessing I probably had at least 2 boxes since half my guns are .22. And at least 1000 rounds of other ammo, probably more. Going through 100 rounds of ammo doesn't take long, easily less than an hour. So it makes sense to bring 2-3000 rounds when there was about 15 people there.
    Probably not the scenario you had in mind. But if I saw just 1 person with 1000+ rounds, I'd probably just think he plans to sight in and practice with several guns and plans to be there 8 hours. Maybe he just got a few new ones he wants to try before entering a competition, maybe he wants to try different ammo, maybe he has to drive far and only goes once a year so wants to make a day of it. Maybe he just had a better deal on bulk ammo and keeps it all in one ammo can. I can tell you I only buy .22 ammo in those 550 boxes, and usually buy 2 or 3 boxes when I can, because sometimes they can be hard to find.
    In any case, I wouldn't really think much of it. Unless he started pulling out some illegal belt fed weapon that can go through 1000 rounds in a few minutes, then he'd probably just be kicked out and banned.
    I have to admit I find it quite disturbing that your stag party was at a shooting range. I know to you it's a hobby but I guess it just highlights the cultural difference between America and countries that don't have such high levels of gun violence (I.e. every other first world country). To you it's so normal to be around guns and for them to be commonplace, this is just so alien to me and for that I am extremely thankful
    I have seen some of the Euro stag parties.  A friend of mine live in the capital of a small country and every weekend the stag groups come into town, get extremely drunk, start fights, break stuff.  

    A range day by comparison was fun and relaxing.
    Let me guess, white males? Maybe your friend’s country should implement a ban?
    Always trying to introduce race into anything.  Your life must be miserable.
  • unsung said:
    unsung said:
    mace1229 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    So serious question guys: what are your thoughts/opinions if a shooter brings a 1000 rounds of ammo to a range?
    granted all laws are being followed: firearms are secure and guns and ammo are separate. 
    Why would they need to bring 1000 rounds to the range? Why couldn’t the range supply the ammo? I don’t understand why anyone would need 1000 rounds in their possession. How many rounds does a combat soldier take on patrol or on a mission to kill the enemy? On average?
    I probably have brought 1000 rounds of ammo to a range. As mentioned, range ammo is about double what you can get other places. Just like everything else you can possibly buy, ammo is cheaper in bulk. I used to buy 300-500 rounds at a time because it would be double the cost of 100 rounds.
    So why did I bring 1000 rounds to the range? Instead of a bachelor party at a strip club, mine was at a range. Had about 15 friends go with me. Most didn't own guns, and was just easier to have everyone pay me $50 and I buy all the ammo we needed. I can't remember how much ammo we brought, but was probably 2-3000 rounds. 
    .22 ammo is so small it is often sold in boxes of 550 that is about the size of a softball. I'm guessing I probably had at least 2 boxes since half my guns are .22. And at least 1000 rounds of other ammo, probably more. Going through 100 rounds of ammo doesn't take long, easily less than an hour. So it makes sense to bring 2-3000 rounds when there was about 15 people there.
    Probably not the scenario you had in mind. But if I saw just 1 person with 1000+ rounds, I'd probably just think he plans to sight in and practice with several guns and plans to be there 8 hours. Maybe he just got a few new ones he wants to try before entering a competition, maybe he wants to try different ammo, maybe he has to drive far and only goes once a year so wants to make a day of it. Maybe he just had a better deal on bulk ammo and keeps it all in one ammo can. I can tell you I only buy .22 ammo in those 550 boxes, and usually buy 2 or 3 boxes when I can, because sometimes they can be hard to find.
    In any case, I wouldn't really think much of it. Unless he started pulling out some illegal belt fed weapon that can go through 1000 rounds in a few minutes, then he'd probably just be kicked out and banned.
    I have to admit I find it quite disturbing that your stag party was at a shooting range. I know to you it's a hobby but I guess it just highlights the cultural difference between America and countries that don't have such high levels of gun violence (I.e. every other first world country). To you it's so normal to be around guns and for them to be commonplace, this is just so alien to me and for that I am extremely thankful
    I have seen some of the Euro stag parties.  A friend of mine live in the capital of a small country and every weekend the stag groups come into town, get extremely drunk, start fights, break stuff.  

    A range day by comparison was fun and relaxing.
    Let me guess, white males? Maybe your friend’s country should implement a ban?
    Always trying to introduce race into anything.  Your life must be miserable.
    Coming from someone who openly stated that they fear elimination of the white race, I find that laughable. Also, someone who fears the big bad gubment and all of the other things that you fear, them mainly, I think it’s you who has a miserable life. In fact, my life is quite enjoyable and rich, without a thunder boom stick and irrational fears. 
     
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  • oftenreading
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    riley540 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    So serious question guys: what are your thoughts/opinions if a shooter brings a 1000 rounds of ammo to a range?
    granted all laws are being followed: firearms are secure and guns and ammo are separate. 
    Why would they need to bring 1000 rounds to the range? Why couldn’t the range supply the ammo? I don’t understand why anyone would need 1000 rounds in their possession. How many rounds does a combat soldier take on patrol or on a mission to kill the enemy? On average?
    I probably have brought 1000 rounds of ammo to a range. As mentioned, range ammo is about double what you can get other places. Just like everything else you can possibly buy, ammo is cheaper in bulk. I used to buy 300-500 rounds at a time because it would be double the cost of 100 rounds.
    So why did I bring 1000 rounds to the range? Instead of a bachelor party at a strip club, mine was at a range. Had about 15 friends go with me. Most didn't own guns, and was just easier to have everyone pay me $50 and I buy all the ammo we needed. I can't remember how much ammo we brought, but was probably 2-3000 rounds. 
    .22 ammo is so small it is often sold in boxes of 550 that is about the size of a softball. I'm guessing I probably had at least 2 boxes since half my guns are .22. And at least 1000 rounds of other ammo, probably more. Going through 100 rounds of ammo doesn't take long, easily less than an hour. So it makes sense to bring 2-3000 rounds when there was about 15 people there.
    Probably not the scenario you had in mind. But if I saw just 1 person with 1000+ rounds, I'd probably just think he plans to sight in and practice with several guns and plans to be there 8 hours. Maybe he just got a few new ones he wants to try before entering a competition, maybe he wants to try different ammo, maybe he has to drive far and only goes once a year so wants to make a day of it. Maybe he just had a better deal on bulk ammo and keeps it all in one ammo can. I can tell you I only buy .22 ammo in those 550 boxes, and usually buy 2 or 3 boxes when I can, because sometimes they can be hard to find.
    In any case, I wouldn't really think much of it. Unless he started pulling out some illegal belt fed weapon that can go through 1000 rounds in a few minutes, then he'd probably just be kicked out and banned.
    I have to admit I find it quite disturbing that your stag party was at a shooting range. I know to you it's a hobby but I guess it just highlights the cultural difference between America and countries that don't have such high levels of gun violence (I.e. every other first world country). To you it's so normal to be around guns and for them to be commonplace, this is just so alien to me and for that I am extremely thankful
    Why?  it wasn't common place for most of them. Half the group never shot a gun before, the other half maybe just 2 or 3 times. All thought it was fun because it was different. SO it was something different for everyone and we all had a great time. Unless just the existence of a shooting range is disturbing to you, what difference does it make why and when someone goes?
    I find it disturbing that a large portion of guys I know want to celebrate getting married by going to a strip club and dragging all their friends, half already married, with them. Thats so disrespectful to your soon to be wife to celebrate the wedding by one last fling with a stranger, that is disturbing to me that has become the norm for a bachelor party (especially living 3 hours from Vegas that was the norm). Not saying that is you, but I didn't want that for me.  I wanted something different. 
    If you haven’t noticed yet, other countries find American’s relationship with guns bizarre. 
    Other countries don’t learn American History 

    evidence? And I stated American history specifically. 
    I have no idea why you keep insisting other countries don't learn American history. You're simply not correct on that one and it's kind of a bizarre assertion.  
     
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  • PJPOWER
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    mcgruff10 said:
    So serious question guys: what are your thoughts/opinions if a shooter brings a 1000 rounds of ammo to a range?
    granted all laws are being followed: firearms are secure and guns and ammo are separate. 
    I do not think I’ve ever taken 1000 rounds to the range at once, but I have no issues with someone that does.  10 trips to the range could easily use up 1000 rounds.  Personally, I worry more about the person that has a gun and one box of 20 that has never been opened.  That most likely means they do not practice or know how to properly/safely use their firearm.  I would never take that person on a hunting trip...
  • Hilarious.

    The 'other countries don't know US history' comment... hilarious. Double hilarious because... even if that was true... that would imply the citizens need to be armed for a day's notice war. Based on the country's history, the only people that might need assault rifles in the US are those people who are black.

    Stag at the gun range? Oh my gawd. Well... that tells you all you need to know right there.

    The 1000 rounds seems excessive, but I really couldn't care about that. Large capacity magazines, semi automatic weapons, and handguns grind my gears. The urban cowboy has no need for such weaponry. None. Period. If someone can prove through vocation they need a sidearm (like a rancher)... they should be able to have one for their work site (not their glove compartment). If someone wants one because it gives them a boner... sorry... no. There are pills for that- just don't get those pills stuck in your throat (you'll get a stiff neck).
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  • I have no idea why you keep insisting other countries don't learn American history. You're simply not correct on that one and it's kind of a bizarre assertion.  
     

    Furthermore, the OP seems to be suggesting that if "other countries" learned American history (which they already do), they would be neck deep in, and obsessed with guns.

     
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    Hilarious.

    The 'other countries don't know US history' comment... hilarious. Double hilarious because... even if that was true... that would imply the citizens need to be armed for a day's notice war. Based on the country's history, the only people that might need assault rifles in the US are those people who are black.

    Stag at the gun range? Oh my gawd. Well... that tells you all you need to know right there.

    The 1000 rounds seems excessive, but I really couldn't care about that. Large capacity magazines, semi automatic weapons, and handguns grind my gears. The urban cowboy has no need for such weaponry. None. Period. If someone can prove through vocation they need a sidearm (like a rancher)... they should be able to have one for their work site (not their glove compartment). If someone wants one because it gives them a boner... sorry... no. There are pills for that- just don't get those pills stuck in your throat (you'll get a stiff neck).
    Why do you keep attacking the men?  The fastest growing class of hunters/firearm owners are women, haha!  Are you suggesting women get boners from owning personal protection handguns?
  • PJPOWER said:
    Hilarious.

    The 'other countries don't know US history' comment... hilarious. Double hilarious because... even if that was true... that would imply the citizens need to be armed for a day's notice war. Based on the country's history, the only people that might need assault rifles in the US are those people who are black.

    Stag at the gun range? Oh my gawd. Well... that tells you all you need to know right there.

    The 1000 rounds seems excessive, but I really couldn't care about that. Large capacity magazines, semi automatic weapons, and handguns grind my gears. The urban cowboy has no need for such weaponry. None. Period. If someone can prove through vocation they need a sidearm (like a rancher)... they should be able to have one for their work site (not their glove compartment). If someone wants one because it gives them a boner... sorry... no. There are pills for that- just don't get those pills stuck in your throat (you'll get a stiff neck).
    Why do you keep attacking the men?  The fastest growing class of hunters/firearm owners are women, haha!  Are you suggesting women get boners from owning personal protection handguns?
    I’m pretty sure it’s white males who shoot the most people. Could be wrong.
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  • PJPOWER said:
    Hilarious.

    The 'other countries don't know US history' comment... hilarious. Double hilarious because... even if that was true... that would imply the citizens need to be armed for a day's notice war. Based on the country's history, the only people that might need assault rifles in the US are those people who are black.

    Stag at the gun range? Oh my gawd. Well... that tells you all you need to know right there.

    The 1000 rounds seems excessive, but I really couldn't care about that. Large capacity magazines, semi automatic weapons, and handguns grind my gears. The urban cowboy has no need for such weaponry. None. Period. If someone can prove through vocation they need a sidearm (like a rancher)... they should be able to have one for their work site (not their glove compartment). If someone wants one because it gives them a boner... sorry... no. There are pills for that- just don't get those pills stuck in your throat (you'll get a stiff neck).
    Why do you keep attacking the men?  The fastest growing class of hunters/firearm owners are women, haha!  Are you suggesting women get boners from owning personal protection handguns?

    Men are easy targets I guess.

    Your point is well taken though- women might just have a legitimate need for a sidearm if they spend any time in the vicinity of males. I need to rethink my position on that one.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
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    I don't understand the issue with having your stag at a gun range. not only am I not disturbed by it, it doesn't bother me in the least. kinda sounds fun. people have all different types of hobbies. it's not like they all went out hunting and took 15 guys who had never shot a gun before. this was at a controlled establishment (assuming) with safety protocols. and yes, I'm sure shooting at targets would be fun. I remember learning archery in gym glass. It was fun as hell. I'm sure shooting a gun would be too. I would just never shoot a living thing, unless I had to for survival (as in eating), or have a gun of my own. 

    I think some people are picturing a bunch of rednecks in military vests shooting their guns in the air yelling "yee haw" with straw in their teeth, when it was most likely a harmless fun day out with friends. 
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  • PJPOWER
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    edited November 2017
    PJPOWER said:
    Hilarious.

    The 'other countries don't know US history' comment... hilarious. Double hilarious because... even if that was true... that would imply the citizens need to be armed for a day's notice war. Based on the country's history, the only people that might need assault rifles in the US are those people who are black.

    Stag at the gun range? Oh my gawd. Well... that tells you all you need to know right there.

    The 1000 rounds seems excessive, but I really couldn't care about that. Large capacity magazines, semi automatic weapons, and handguns grind my gears. The urban cowboy has no need for such weaponry. None. Period. If someone can prove through vocation they need a sidearm (like a rancher)... they should be able to have one for their work site (not their glove compartment). If someone wants one because it gives them a boner... sorry... no. There are pills for that- just don't get those pills stuck in your throat (you'll get a stiff neck).
    Why do you keep attacking the men?  The fastest growing class of hunters/firearm owners are women, haha!  Are you suggesting women get boners from owning personal protection handguns?
    I’m pretty sure it’s white males who shoot the most people. Could be wrong.
    That much more of a case for women to have their CCWs!  They are victimized at a much higher rate!  I support women having the right to protect themselves from white males (or any race of male).  Evidently Hollywood actresses need to be carrying more.
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