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America's Gun Violence

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    BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,561
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    riley540 said:
    There isn’t any affective solution I have heard yet. I personally don’t have a good idea to end school shootings, but I haven’t heard any ideas that would actually change anything 
    This is because you haven't learned to learn. There have been great suggestions made here that are even moderate in nature (compromising). And of course... there are models many other countries chose to utilize and have experienced great success with as well.

    You want the status quo. We get it. Don't try and sell everyone a turd. The answer is there... the will is not. Blood is on your hands.
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    unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    unsung said:
    No.  I am a firearms fan and a fan of the Constitution.  I also prefer to protect these kids in a way that will actually work.

    Don't forget you are also a guy that wants the government to stay out of people's lives... but also wants them to catch warning signs for potential shooters (presumably by monitoring behaviours).

    In other words... conflicted. You don't truly know where you really are at. 
    No, I actually want the police to do the job that they claim to do, serve and protect.  Not shoot unarmed civilians and people's pets.
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    stuckinlinestuckinline Posts: 3,359

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    unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    And the crisis actors are out in Florida.
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    unsung said:
    People should be asking that kids not be placed amongst the fish in a barrel.

    Or maybe you all would prefer to get on that airplane now without any security checks?

    When the next white cop shoots an unarmed black man will you be blaming the gun?

    Let me know when the outrage gets to be enough to march on some inner city streets.
    Making sense again. What? No meme to post along with incoherent ramblings?
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,315
    No Coder said:
    CM189191 said:
    What part of
    "shall not be infringed"
    do you not understand?!
    This is the hilarious part of the argument that other countries just shake their heads at. What about the citizens of the country having the right to live and their lives not being infringed by some lunatic with an AR-15?

    "But God Damn if someone is going to infringe on my rights to have a weapon!!!"

    When there is a problem (gun violence is a problem), law makers are able to CHANGE things to stop the problem being a problem, or at least attempt to do so. There has been plenty of government policies and bills across the world that have amendments made from the initial document, including the USA
    Stop making so much sense.
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    unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Typical response.  

    Yeah bans your guns, good luck with that.  Just don't pretend that you are really against them.
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,793
    unsung said:
    Typical response.  

    Yeah bans your guns, good luck with that.  Just don't pretend that you are really against them.
    What's it feel like to have blood on your hands?
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    rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    unsung said:
    And the crisis actors are out in Florida.
    Oh please, pretty please, will you post a meme/photo/link that is quickly shown to be false and fabricated like usual?
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    I’m sure Unsung is in favor of Team Trump Treason reducing the staff at the Justice Department by 1700+ while increasing the staff at the Department of Homeland Security by 1900+. You know, reducing the effectiveness of the department that could prosecute gun crimes versus increasing the department that violates your personal liberties.
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,315

    No Coder said:
    Okay, I have not read this whole discussion, but have read most of the last few weeks pages, so forgive me if I've missed something that has already been discussed.
    As an outsider from Australia, I am certainly not 100% all over the specifics of the laws etc for gun ownership and purchasing, but do have some knowledge. I have been to the USA one multiple occasions for work and also worked alongside many Americans on deployments. I served 13 years in the Australian Airforce and have deployed to many locations and environments for months at a time with multiple of our Allied countries. So I have been around and handled weapons and also fully aware of the damage they can cause.

    I really struggle to see why any person requires any semi automatic weapon. I have no issue with people wanting to hunt, target shoot etc, but why does anyone need a semi automatic???

    Why can't the government put a ban on all of these weapons and put a buy back scheme in place for the ones already in use? Yes, there will still be ones in existence and the criminals will always find ways around things. But it hasn't been a criminal shooting up schools. And yes, it may cost the Gov a lot of money in the buy back scheme, so what? How much money is wasted by any government on other bullshit. 
    I know from reading forums and Fbook, that this will be massively unpopular with some, who will quote rights etc, but when does children's lives start to outweigh their outdated rights? Government's are in place to make these decisions for the betterment of it's people and sometimes tough decisions need to be made

    Commentators point to multiple other countries (including mine) that have changed laws or simply have never allowed this sort of weapon's access to civillians, but people still want to say that it won't work in the USA or that we are different in the USA. Yes, it is different, your schools are getting shot up a lot more regularly than ANYWHERE else in the Western world

    I know the Government (and not just this current one) has been owned by the NRA for a LONG time, so this will most likely never happen, but hopefully these children that are not standing up and saying NOW is the time to talk and take action will be heard. It may take time, but that doesn't mean you don't start NOW
    The use of “need” and specifically always going after the horrible “ar15” are not very good talking points when it comes to gun control.  

    I have never once heard anyone say they need an ar15.

    If your argument is for stricter gun control, you should look at the statistics and go after handguns because more people are killed by handguns a year than any other gun.  Riffles, including the AR15, account for 3 percent of murders by firearms.  To me, always specifically saying the AR15 comes across as a knee jerk reaction.

    I think most people are in favor of better regulations, the issue is how.  I hear the phrase “common sense” thrown out a lot.  What is common sense regulation though?  

    I personally think there are more issues that tend to be ignored than just gun regulation.  We’ve had guns since the start.  Why all of a sudden does it appear that we are having more and more of these types of shootings?  Instead of just focusing on guns and trying to control what we think we can control, we need to put some focus and energy into looking at ourselves and our culture and ask why now.  What’s different?  Why does it seem more and more people just don’t value life anymore?  We can pass laws and ban all guns.  But just like drugs, they won’t magically disappear once they are illegal.

    Lets just say the AR15 becomes illegal, what’s the solution once a shooting happens involving one?  Because I’m pretty sure if someone has it in their mind that they are going to kill a group of people, they won’t say “well damn, I was going to use this AR15, but I don’t want to break any laws.”  
    Jeez. It's almost like people forget we had an assault weapons ban from 1994 to 2004. Other than Columbine, can you think of any other mass shootings in that time frame of the top of your head? Neither can I. Now....can you think of any since that expired and can you name what most of them have in common?

    NOBODY who wants these guns banned are not ONLY looking to ban these guns and do NOTHING else.
    OF COURSE we need to change our culture. 
    OF COURSE our schools need better security.
    OF COURSE we need universal and more stringent background checks.

    But it's COMMON SENSE to also try to restrict the kinds of guns that make shootings like these easier for people.

    The rest of the world is laughing at us. Thank God for these kids...

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    rgambs said:
    unsung said:
    And the crisis actors are out in Florida.
    Oh please, pretty please, will you post a meme/photo/link that is quickly shown to be false and fabricated like usual?
    Far right wackos are ruining this country. Here’s one of unsung’s favorite news sources:


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    unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    CM189191 said:
    unsung said:
    Typical response.  

    Yeah bans your guns, good luck with that.  Just don't pretend that you are really against them.
    What's it feel like to have blood on your hands?
    I don't.  I don't support the murder of children.  I prefer to protect them, your ineffective means are why they are dead.  How are your gun free zones working to keep out the crazies?

    And please, don't lecture me on the value of life, or do you no longer support abortion?
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    unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    I’m sure Unsung is in favor of Team Trump Treason reducing the staff at the Justice Department by 1700+ while increasing the staff at the Department of Homeland Security by 1900+. You know, reducing the effectiveness of the department that could prosecute gun crimes versus increasing the department that violates your personal liberties.
    I would dismantle Dept of Homeland Security if it were my choice.
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    What’s changed? The cheap, ready availability of guns of all types and the weakening or elimination of previous gun laws at the behest of the NRA on behalf of the firearms industry. Where have you been for the past 25 years? It’s not like there hasn’t been changes on one side of the equation.
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    unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Overmedication of psychiatric drugs?
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,315
    unsung said:
    CM189191 said:
    unsung said:
    Typical response.  

    Yeah bans your guns, good luck with that.  Just don't pretend that you are really against them.
    What's it feel like to have blood on your hands?
    I don't.  I don't support the murder of children.  I prefer to protect them, your ineffective means are why they are dead.  How are your gun free zones working to keep out the crazies?

    And please, don't lecture me on the value of life, or do you no longer support abortion?
    This is such a stupid argument. It's similar to the one about Chicago and their strict gun laws. As if it's really difficult to bring a gun into the city's boarder.

    This is actually an argument for stricter gun laws ACROSS THE COUNTRY. 

    Damn....wish unsung would've included a cute meme though.
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    unsung said:
    Overmedication of psychiatric drugs?
    Can you link the over prescription or consumption of psychiatric drugs and mass shootings with fact based evidence? Or is this just alt-right hysteria?
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,315

    unsung said:
    Overmedication of psychiatric drugs?
    That only happens here right?
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    unsung said:
    CM189191 said:
    unsung said:
    Typical response.  

    Yeah bans your guns, good luck with that.  Just don't pretend that you are really against them.
    What's it feel like to have blood on your hands?
    I don't.  I don't support the murder of children.  I prefer to protect them, your ineffective means are why they are dead.  How are your gun free zones working to keep out the crazies?

    And please, don't lecture me on the value of life, or do you no longer support abortion?
    Unsung is all about the value of life....until a person is born. You're a hypocrite dude. 
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    unsung said:
    CM189191 said:
    unsung said:
    Typical response.  

    Yeah bans your guns, good luck with that.  Just don't pretend that you are really against them.
    What's it feel like to have blood on your hands?
    I don't.  I don't support the murder of children.  I prefer to protect them, your ineffective means are why they are dead.  How are your gun free zones working to keep out the crazies?

    And please, don't lecture me on the value of life, or do you no longer support abortion?
    Unsung is all about the value of life....until a person is born. You're a hypocrite dude. 
    No, that’s the Republican Party and Faux repubes like Randy Paul. “Pro-life, until you’re born.” I guess unless you’re born wealthy white.
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    unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    No, I'd protect kids through using a security guard.

    But none of you will admit that.  None of you would get on a plane that you could just walk on either.  You are the hypocrites.  Good luck with your ban, it won't work.

    How come all of a sudden you trust Trump?  I mean is he no longer the treason tyrant I hear so much about around these parts?
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    unsung said:
    No, I'd protect kids through using a security guard.

    But none of you will admit that.  None of you would get on a plane that you could just walk on either.  You are the hypocrites.  Good luck with your ban, it won't work.

    How come all of a sudden you trust Trump?  I mean is he no longer the treason tyrant I hear so much about around these parts?
    I don’t trust Team Trump Treason or any of those repubes in Congress. How did you make that leap?
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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 17,986


    If you need to be reminded as to what a giant piece of festering shit tRump Jr is, here you go...
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,315
    edited February 2018
    unsung said:
    No, I'd protect kids through using a security guard.

    But none of you will admit that.  None of you would get on a plane that you could just walk on either.  You are the hypocrites.  Good luck with your ban, it won't work.

    How come all of a sudden you trust Trump?  I mean is he no longer the treason tyrant I hear so much about around these parts?
    I literally just said I would prefer more security in schools and I have never and will never trust Trump.
    He's been given $31,000,000 from the NRA. The NRA owns Donald Trump. He is knee deep in the swamp. Any changes he will champion will not go nearly far enough. 


    NOBODY who wants these guns banned are not ONLY looking to ban these guns and do NOTHING else. 
    OF COURSE we need to change our culture. 
    OF COURSE our schools need better security.
    OF COURSE we need universal and more stringent background checks.

    But it's COMMON SENSE to also try to restrict the kinds of guns that make shootings like these easier for people.

    The ban already worked 24 years ago. 
    Try and keep up. 
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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 17,986
    unsung said:
    No, I'd protect kids through using a security guard.

    But none of you will admit that.  None of you would get on a plane that you could just walk on either.  You are the hypocrites.  Good luck with your ban, it won't work.

    How come all of a sudden you trust Trump?  I mean is he no longer the treason tyrant I hear so much about around these parts?
    The security guard would just be the first target.  Take out the guard and then start the slaughter.

    That's no solution.
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
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    oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,828
    unsung said:
    No, I'd protect kids through using a security guard.

    But none of you will admit that.  None of you would get on a plane that you could just walk on either.  You are the hypocrites.  Good luck with your ban, it won't work.

    How come all of a sudden you trust Trump?  I mean is he no longer the treason tyrant I hear so much about around these parts?
    Several times a year I get on a commercial plane that I can just walk on without going through security. Harbour to harbour between Vancouver and Victoria. It’s never been shot up that I’m aware of. I wonder why? Oh yeah - something about our gun laws. 
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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 17,986

    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
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    unsung said:
    No, I'd protect kids through using a security guard.

    But none of you will admit that.  None of you would get on a plane that you could just walk on either.  You are the hypocrites.  Good luck with your ban, it won't work.

    How come all of a sudden you trust Trump?  I mean is he no longer the treason tyrant I hear so much about around these parts?
    The security guard would just be the first target.  Take out the guard and then start the slaughter.

    That's no solution.

    Anything... and I mean anything... 'cept for anything even remotely attached to the notion of removing guns from the equation.

    I got shit to shoot!
    "My brain's a good brain!"
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