America's Gun Violence

oftenreading

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

unsung said:

Another one, you guys miss this???

http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/18/us/fresno-california-shootings/index.html

Death Penalty.

Why not? Let him meet his maker.

I could be wrong, but my memory from the discussion on the DP thread was that you said you were in favour of the DP in limited circumstances, such as child abduction and murder, sex crimes, particularly heinous murders, etc. The victims in this case seem almost randomly chosen. Why does it fit your criteria?

Thirty Bills Unpaid

oftenreading said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

unsung said:

Another one, you guys miss this???

http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/18/us/fresno-california-shootings/index.html

Death Penalty.

Why not? Let him meet his maker.

I could be wrong, but my memory from the discussion on the DP thread was that you said you were in favour of the DP in limited circumstances, such as child abduction and murder, sex crimes, particularly heinous murders, etc. The victims in this case seem almost randomly chosen. Why does it fit your criteria?

Mass murder and serial murder fit my criteria as well.

PJPOWER

oftenreading said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

unsung said:

Another one, you guys miss this???

http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/18/us/fresno-california-shootings/index.html

Death Penalty.

Why not? Let him meet his maker.

I could be wrong, but my memory from the discussion on the DP thread was that you said you were in favour of the DP in limited circumstances, such as child abduction and murder, sex crimes, particularly heinous murders, etc. The victims in this case seem almost randomly chosen. Why does it fit your criteria?

Randomly selected individuals of a specific race. It was a racially motivated hate crime with religious undertones (screaming praises to Allah while being taken down). It was similar to mushroom head Roof's actions.

rgambs

unsung said:

Another one, you guys miss this???

http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/18/us/fresno-california-shootings/index.html

You don't have a history of posting about incidents of gun violence in this thread, I wonder why you changed course...
Hmmmmm

unsung

rgambs said:

unsung said:

Another one, you guys miss this???

http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/18/us/fresno-california-shootings/index.html

You don't have a history of posting about incidents of gun violence in this thread, I wonder why you changed course...
Hmmmmm

Probably the same reason you were silent on it. Hmmmmm

Thirty Bills Unpaid

PJPOWER said:

oftenreading said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

unsung said:

Another one, you guys miss this???

http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/18/us/fresno-california-shootings/index.html

Death Penalty.

Why not? Let him meet his maker.

I could be wrong, but my memory from the discussion on the DP thread was that you said you were in favour of the DP in limited circumstances, such as child abduction and murder, sex crimes, particularly heinous murders, etc. The victims in this case seem almost randomly chosen. Why does it fit your criteria?

Randomly selected individuals of a specific race. It was a racially motivated hate crime with religious undertones (screaming praises to Allah while being taken down). It was similar to mushroom head Roof's actions.

It is gross... but not as gross as Mushroom Head's obscenity in my mind (if we can even compare such offences- to the victims... there's no difference).

Bottom line: innocent people have been erased from the earth through sheer maliciousness and evil. They aren't here to voice how displeased they are about that, but others are. So... as a voice for them... the death penalty seems reasonable. It's a much more fair fate than they endured given this shithead made his own bed to lie in compared to his victims who were randomly executed while doing normal human things.

rgambs

unsung said:

rgambs said:

unsung said:

Another one, you guys miss this???

http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/18/us/fresno-california-shootings/index.html

You don't have a history of posting about incidents of gun violence in this thread, I wonder why you changed course...
Hmmmmm

Probably the same reason you were silent on it. Hmmmmm

Nope, I hadn't heard about it yet. Good on you for admitting it was the race of the shooter that caused you to single it out.

unsung

rgambs said:

unsung said:

rgambs said:

unsung said:

Another one, you guys miss this???

http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/18/us/fresno-california-shootings/index.html

You don't have a history of posting about incidents of gun violence in this thread, I wonder why you changed course...
Hmmmmm

Probably the same reason you were silent on it. Hmmmmm

Nope, I hadn't heard about it yet. Good on you for admitting it was the race of the shooter that caused you to single it out.

Sorry bud, it was the thing he said. Sorry about wrecking your agenda.

Go Beavers

unsung said:

rgambs said:

unsung said:

rgambs said:

unsung said:

Another one, you guys miss this???

http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/18/us/fresno-california-shootings/index.html

You don't have a history of posting about incidents of gun violence in this thread, I wonder why you changed course...
Hmmmmm

Probably the same reason you were silent on it. Hmmmmm

Nope, I hadn't heard about it yet. Good on you for admitting it was the race of the shooter that caused you to single it out.

Sorry bud, it was the thing he said. Sorry about wrecking your agenda.

And what he said would scare someone who is concerned about white genocide.

unsung

Or anyone with two brain cells to rub together.

PJPOWER

Stay classy New York PD...
https://bearingarms.com/beth-b/2017/04/28/nypd-officers-gun-scheme/

Go Beavers

unsung said:

Or anyone with two brain cells to rub together.

It was posted due to the race of the shooter.

CM189191

After Obama has successfully confiscated everyone's guns, Hillary threatens to abolish 2nd Amendment
...how's that protest vote working out for you...???

PJPOWER

CM189191 said:

After Obama has successfully confiscated everyone's guns, Hillary threatens to abolish 2nd Amendment
...how's that protest vote working out for you...???

I don't see what your link has to do with the 2nd Amendment...?? Do you think that only Trump voters support gun ownership rights? Maybe this post would be more fit for the "Donald Trump" thread...

CM189191

PJPOWER said:

CM189191 said:

After Obama has successfully confiscated everyone's guns, Hillary threatens to abolish 2nd Amendment
...how's that protest vote working out for you...???

I don't see what your link has to do with the 2nd Amendment...?? Do you think that only Trump voters support gun ownership rights? Maybe this post would be more fit for the "Donald Trump" thread...

Point being, 2A is used to rile up the base. Trump's White House Chief of Staff comes out in an interview and explicitly states they are interested in re-writing 1A and.....crickets.

If the 2A supporters were actually the patriots they claim to be, there would be armed marches and protests in DC. But they're not. They are spineless xenophobic deplorables clinging to religion and guns. Everyone else and every other amendment be damned.

And really....aren't they all Trump threads at this point?

PJPOWER

CM189191 said:

After Obama has successfully confiscated everyone's guns, Hillary threatens to abolish 2nd Amendment ...how's that protest vote working out for you...???

I don't see what your link has to do with the 2nd Amendment...?? Do you think that only Trump voters support gun ownership rights? Maybe this post would be more fit for the "Donald Trump" thread...

Point being, 2A is used to rile up the base. Trump's White House Chief of Staff comes out in an interview and explicitly states they are interested in re-writing 1A and.....crickets. If the 2A supporters were actually the patriots they claim to be, there would be armed marches and protests in DC. But they're not. They are spineless xenophobic deplorables clinging to religion and guns. Everyone else and every other amendment be damned. And really....aren't they all Trump threads at this point?

Maybe people are not overly concerned of the threat?
https://reason.com/blog/2017/05/01/no-trump-wont-change-the-first-amendment
Once again, 2nd A supporters are not composed of only "spineless xenophobic deplorable clinging to religion and guns".  Most stats that I've read show that a high majority of most demographics in the US support individual rights to own firearms for self-protection.  There is only a small minority of far leftists that do not.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

PJPOWER said:

CM189191 said:

After Obama has successfully confiscated everyone's guns, Hillary threatens to abolish 2nd Amendment ...how's that protest vote working out for you...???

I don't see what your link has to do with the 2nd Amendment...?? Do you think that only Trump voters support gun ownership rights? Maybe this post would be more fit for the "Donald Trump" thread...

Point being, 2A is used to rile up the base. Trump's White House Chief of Staff comes out in an interview and explicitly states they are interested in re-writing 1A and.....crickets. If the 2A supporters were actually the patriots they claim to be, there would be armed marches and protests in DC. But they're not. They are spineless xenophobic deplorables clinging to religion and guns. Everyone else and every other amendment be damned. And really....aren't they all Trump threads at this point?

Maybe people are not overly concerned of the threat?
https://reason.com/blog/2017/05/01/no-trump-wont-change-the-first-amendment
Once again, 2nd A supporters are not composed of only "spineless xenophobic deplorable clinging to religion and guns".  Most stats that I've read show that a high majority of most demographics in the US support individual rights to own firearms for self-protection.  There is a small minority of far leftists that do not.

For the overwhelming majority of gun control advocates, the issue isn't 'firearms for self protection'... it's 'what type of firearm for protection'.

The line as it stands right now isn't great for the public in my mind. The risks assumed by the public allowing widespread ownership of handguns and assault rifles outweighs their level of usefulness in a home defence scenario where a shotgun can offer the same protection.

PJPOWER

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

PJPOWER said:

CM189191 said:

After Obama has successfully confiscated everyone's guns, Hillary threatens to abolish 2nd Amendment ...how's that protest vote working out for you...???

I don't see what your link has to do with the 2nd Amendment...?? Do you think that only Trump voters support gun ownership rights? Maybe this post would be more fit for the "Donald Trump" thread...

Point being, 2A is used to rile up the base. Trump's White House Chief of Staff comes out in an interview and explicitly states they are interested in re-writing 1A and.....crickets. If the 2A supporters were actually the patriots they claim to be, there would be armed marches and protests in DC. But they're not. They are spineless xenophobic deplorables clinging to religion and guns. Everyone else and every other amendment be damned. And really....aren't they all Trump threads at this point?

Maybe people are not overly concerned of the threat?
https://reason.com/blog/2017/05/01/no-trump-wont-change-the-first-amendment
Once again, 2nd A supporters are not composed of only "spineless xenophobic deplorable clinging to religion and guns".  Most stats that I've read show that a high majority of most demographics in the US support individual rights to own firearms for self-protection.  There is a small minority of far leftists that do not.

For the overwhelming majority of gun control advocates, the issue isn't 'firearms for self protection'... it's 'what type of firearm for protection'.

The line as it stands right now isn't great for the public in my mind. The risks assumed by the public allowing widespread ownership of handguns and assault rifles outweighs their level of usefulness in a home defence scenario where a shotgun can offer the same protection.

I get what you're saying, but that was not the message that the previous poster conveyed.  He/she eluded to "2nd Ammendment supporters" in general and mentioned none of your specific considerations.
And also to mention, there are plenty of articles out there regarding the pros/cons of shotguns, pistols, semi-auto rifles out there for home defense.  It is really completely dependent on the individual and their living situations.  There is no "one size fits all".  Do a little research if you are interested.

CM189191

 PJPOWER said:

CM189191 said:

After Obama has successfully confiscated everyone's guns, Hillary threatens to abolish 2nd Amendment ...how's that protest vote working out for you...???

I don't see what your link has to do with the 2nd Amendment...?? Do you think that only Trump voters support gun ownership rights? Maybe this post would be more fit for the "Donald Trump" thread...

Point being, 2A is used to rile up the base. Trump's White House Chief of Staff comes out in an interview and explicitly states they are interested in re-writing 1A and.....crickets. If the 2A supporters were actually the patriots they claim to be, there would be armed marches and protests in DC. But they're not. They are spineless xenophobic deplorables clinging to religion and guns. Everyone else and every other amendment be damned. And really....aren't they all Trump threads at this point?

Maybe people are not overly concerned of the threat?
https://reason.com/blog/2017/05/01/no-trump-wont-change-the-first-amendment
Once again, 2nd A supporters are not composed of only "spineless xenophobic deplorable clinging to religion and guns".  Most stats that I've read show that a high majority of most demographics in the US support individual rights to own firearms for self-protection.  There is only a small minority of far leftists that do not.

Just so we have this squared away.
The right uses 2A to rile up it's base.
The White House Chief of Staff comes out and explicitly states they have looked at changing 1A.
My point was: where is all the patriotic outrage from the right here?  None....crickets.

And you helpfully pointed me to a Conservative website, which has an article which may as well have read "crickets".  

Yet this same website is using 2A scare tactics to drum up revenue:
If You Care About the Second Amendment—And Incredibly Terrible Reporting That's Biased Against Guns—Support Reason!
ftfa: "One good reason to support Reason's journalism is that in a world of knee-jerk media and politicians, we don't immediately use every current event as fodder to simply push a longstanding agenda."

lol

PJPOWER

CM189191 said:

 PJPOWER said:

CM189191 said:

After Obama has successfully confiscated everyone's guns, Hillary threatens to abolish 2nd Amendment ...how's that protest vote working out for you...???

I don't see what your link has to do with the 2nd Amendment...?? Do you think that only Trump voters support gun ownership rights? Maybe this post would be more fit for the "Donald Trump" thread...

Point being, 2A is used to rile up the base. Trump's White House Chief of Staff comes out in an interview and explicitly states they are interested in re-writing 1A and.....crickets. If the 2A supporters were actually the patriots they claim to be, there would be armed marches and protests in DC. But they're not. They are spineless xenophobic deplorables clinging to religion and guns. Everyone else and every other amendment be damned. And really....aren't they all Trump threads at this point?

Maybe people are not overly concerned of the threat?
https://reason.com/blog/2017/05/01/no-trump-wont-change-the-first-amendment
Once again, 2nd A supporters are not composed of only "spineless xenophobic deplorable clinging to religion and guns".  Most stats that I've read show that a high majority of most demographics in the US support individual rights to own firearms for self-protection.  There is only a small minority of far leftists that do not.

Just so we have this squared away.
The right uses 2A to rile up it's base.
The White House Chief of Staff comes out and explicitly states they have looked at changing 1A.
My point was: where is all the patriotic outrage from the right here?  None....crickets.

And you helpfully pointed me to a Conservative website, which has an article which may as well have read "crickets".  

Yet this same website is using 2A scare tactics to drum up revenue:
If You Care About the Second Amendment—And Incredibly Terrible Reporting That's Biased Against Guns—Support Reason!
ftfa: "One good reason to support Reason's journalism is that in a world of knee-jerk media and politicians, we don't immediately use every current event as fodder to simply push a longstanding agenda."

lol

So you are attacking a link that isn't near as right leaning as the far left leaning page you linked?  Where is the outrage from the left on this issue other than one or two random far left leaning websites.  What it boils down to is a non-issue at the moment.  It is something that will most likely not transpire to anything substantive.  If it does, then you will probably get your so sought after public outrage and protests.  Until then, you should probably stop freaking out about every headline that your favorite far left "news" click bait site posts...for your own health and sanity.