Not just a gun ban, but a police officer stationed in everyone’s home to make sure there’s no funny business.
Great. Now Unsung won't be available to respond to my post because he read this one and darted off to WalMart to buy another gun, a video surveillance system, and a shitload of ammo.
Not just a gun ban, but a police officer stationed in everyone’s home to make sure there’s no funny business.
Great. Now Unsung won't be available to respond to my post because he read this one and darted off to WalMart to buy another gun, a video surveillance system, and a shitload of ammo.
and good luck finding any tin foil...
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Anti-depressants, anti-anxiety medication, and ADHA meds are actually an extremely common factor amongst mass shooters. I'm talking REALLY common. Like, the vast majority of mass shooters are on something or other in that category, or were at some point (the most compelling studies are the ones that explore the connection between ritalin use as a kid and violent tendencies as adolescents or adults - the Columbine massacre led researchers to explore this). However, that doesn't necessarily mean that the meds are the cause, obviously. Nobody has ever been able to prove that is the case. It simply proves that the vast majority mass shooters have some sort of mental health problem. And that isn't exactly a surprise (and of course that doesn't mean that everyone with mental illness is dangerous. 99% of people with mental illnesses are not violent - I'm sure everyone here knows that already. Also, of course, mental illness does not = insanity. Mental illness is no excuse for committing murder unless we're talking severe mental illnesses that involve delusion and shit).
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Anti-depressants, anti-anxiety medication, and ADHA meds are actually an extremely common factor amongst mass shooters. I'm talking REALLY common. Like, the vast majority of mass shooters are on something or other in that category, or were at some point (the most compelling studies are the ones that explore the connection between ritalin use as a kid and violent tendencies as adolescents or adults - the Columbine massacre led researchers to explore this). However, that doesn't necessarily mean that the meds are the cause, obviously. Nobody has ever been able to prove that is the case. It simply proves that the vast majority mass shooters have some sort of mental health problem. And that isn't exactly a surprise (and of course that doesn't mean that everyone with mental illness is dangerous. 99% of people with mental illnesses are not violent - I'm sure everyone here knows that already. Also, of course, mental illness does not = insanity. Mental illness is no excuse for committing murder unless we're talking severe mental illnesses that involve delusion and shit).
For sure.
Do you think that these types of medications are over prescribed?
I had had a family member stop taking them and almost immediately had an event. I wonder how common that type of reaction is.
Anti-depressants, anti-anxiety medication, and ADHA meds are actually an extremely common factor amongst mass shooters. I'm talking REALLY common. Like, the vast majority of mass shooters are on something or other in that category, or were at some point (the most compelling studies are the ones that explore the connection between ritalin use as a kid and violent tendencies as adolescents or adults - the Columbine massacre led researchers to explore this). However, that doesn't necessarily mean that the meds are the cause, obviously. Nobody has ever been able to prove that is the case. It simply proves that the vast majority mass shooters have some sort of mental health problem. And that isn't exactly a surprise (and of course that doesn't mean that everyone with mental illness is dangerous. 99% of people with mental illnesses are not violent - I'm sure everyone here knows that already. Also, of course, mental illness does not = insanity. Mental illness is no excuse for committing murder unless we're talking severe mental illnesses that involve delusion and shit).
For sure.
Do you think that these types of medications are over prescribed?
I had had a family member stop taking them and almost immediately had an event. I wonder how common that type of reaction is.
I am no expert, but I think that Ritalin and other ADHD drugs are overprescribed to children for sure. I also think ADHD is way over-diagnosed in children. I have read studies about the impact of those drugs on people's development. It's not good, and there does seem to be some link between those drugs and the violent acts of some who have taken them - the number of people who were on ritalin and then later committed a horrible violent crime definitely seems beyond coincidence.. there is the still the chicken and the egg argument to be had there of course.... But for adults with depression and anxiety? No, I don't really feel like antidepressants are generally overprescribed. I think most adults know when meds are something they need, and most are able to assess that the meds aren't doing the job too. However, I do think that doctors are not well equipped when it comes to trying to help their patients with depression or anxiety. I don't disagree with the drug prescriptions (nor with the trial and error process it often takes with such meds, nor with the decision to abandon the drugs if they aren't working the way the patient hoped), but I feel that doctors are not able to offer a well-rounded treatment, which should involve supplementary therapy. Meds alone are often not adequate - these people need support above and beyond the meds. Obviously this isn't happening for so many because the resources simply are not there for so many patients. So I think the issue for adults is not meds. The issue is the overriding lack of a well-rounded, easily accessible mental healthcare system. The government needs to do something drastic about that issue IMO.
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Anti-depressants, anti-anxiety medication, and ADHA meds are actually an extremely common factor amongst mass shooters. I'm talking REALLY common. Like, the vast majority of mass shooters are on something or other in that category, or were at some point (the most compelling studies are the ones that explore the connection between ritalin use as a kid and violent tendencies as adolescents or adults - the Columbine massacre led researchers to explore this). However, that doesn't necessarily mean that the meds are the cause, obviously. Nobody has ever been able to prove that is the case. It simply proves that the vast majority mass shooters have some sort of mental health problem. And that isn't exactly a surprise (and of course that doesn't mean that everyone with mental illness is dangerous. 99% of people with mental illnesses are not violent - I'm sure everyone here knows that already. Also, of course, mental illness does not = insanity. Mental illness is no excuse for committing murder unless we're talking severe mental illnesses that involve delusion and shit).
For sure.
Do you think that these types of medications are over prescribed?
I had had a family member stop taking them and almost immediately had an event. I wonder how common that type of reaction is.
Depends on the med and what the event was. Some are known to be hard for some people to come off of.
Anti-depressants, anti-anxiety medication, and ADHA meds are actually an extremely common factor amongst mass shooters. I'm talking REALLY common. Like, the vast majority of mass shooters are on something or other in that category, or were at some point (the most compelling studies are the ones that explore the connection between ritalin use as a kid and violent tendencies as adolescents or adults - the Columbine massacre led researchers to explore this). However, that doesn't necessarily mean that the meds are the cause, obviously. Nobody has ever been able to prove that is the case. It simply proves that the vast majority mass shooters have some sort of mental health problem. And that isn't exactly a surprise (and of course that doesn't mean that everyone with mental illness is dangerous. 99% of people with mental illnesses are not violent - I'm sure everyone here knows that already. Also, of course, mental illness does not = insanity. Mental illness is no excuse for committing murder unless we're talking severe mental illnesses that involve delusion and shit).
For sure.
Do you think that these types of medications are over prescribed?
I had had a family member stop taking them and almost immediately had an event. I wonder how common that type of reaction is.
Many types of medications shouldn't be stopped abruptly, not just psychiatric medications.
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Anti-depressants, anti-anxiety medication, and ADHA meds are actually an extremely common factor amongst mass shooters. I'm talking REALLY common. Like, the vast majority of mass shooters are on something or other in that category, or were at some point (the most compelling studies are the ones that explore the connection between ritalin use as a kid and violent tendencies as adolescents or adults - the Columbine massacre led researchers to explore this). However, that doesn't necessarily mean that the meds are the cause, obviously. Nobody has ever been able to prove that is the case. It simply proves that the vast majority mass shooters have some sort of mental health problem. And that isn't exactly a surprise (and of course that doesn't mean that everyone with mental illness is dangerous. 99% of people with mental illnesses are not violent - I'm sure everyone here knows that already. Also, of course, mental illness does not = insanity. Mental illness is no excuse for committing murder unless we're talking severe mental illnesses that involve delusion and shit).
For sure.
Do you think that these types of medications are over prescribed?
I had had a family member stop taking them and almost immediately had an event. I wonder how common that type of reaction is.
I am no expert, but I think that Ritalin and other ADHD drugs are overprescribed to children for sure. I also think ADHD is way over-diagnosed in children. I have read studies about the impact of those drugs on people's development. It's not good, and there does seem to be some link between those drugs and the violent acts of some who have taken them - the number of people who were on ritalin and then later committed a horrible violent crime definitely seems beyond coincidence.. there is the still the chicken and the egg argument to be had there of course.... But for adults with depression and anxiety? No, I don't really feel like antidepressants are generally overprescribed. I think most adults know when meds are something they need, and most are able to assess that the meds aren't doing the job too. However, I do think that doctors are not well equipped when it comes to trying to help their patients with depression or anxiety. I don't disagree with the drug prescriptions (nor with the trial and error process it often takes with such meds, nor with the decision to abandon the drugs if they aren't working the way the patient hoped), but I feel that doctors are not able to offer a well-rounded treatment, which should involve supplementary therapy. Meds alone are often not adequate - these people need support above and beyond the meds. Obviously this isn't happening for so many because the resources simply are not there for so many patients. So I think the issue for adults is not meds. The issue is the overriding lack of a well-rounded, easily accessible mental healthcare system. The government needs to do something drastic about that issue IMO.
ADHD itself is highly correlated with both violent and non-violent criminal behaviour as well as drug abuse. Kids who are appropriately treated tend to have a better chance at not being criminally involved as teens and adults. Blaming the behaviour on treatment rather than the root condition is just a misunderstanding of causation.
my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
Anti-depressants, anti-anxiety medication, and ADHA meds are actually an extremely common factor amongst mass shooters. I'm talking REALLY common. Like, the vast majority of mass shooters are on something or other in that category, or were at some point (the most compelling studies are the ones that explore the connection between ritalin use as a kid and violent tendencies as adolescents or adults - the Columbine massacre led researchers to explore this). However, that doesn't necessarily mean that the meds are the cause, obviously. Nobody has ever been able to prove that is the case. It simply proves that the vast majority mass shooters have some sort of mental health problem. And that isn't exactly a surprise (and of course that doesn't mean that everyone with mental illness is dangerous. 99% of people with mental illnesses are not violent - I'm sure everyone here knows that already. Also, of course, mental illness does not = insanity. Mental illness is no excuse for committing murder unless we're talking severe mental illnesses that involve delusion and shit).
For sure.
Do you think that these types of medications are over prescribed?
I had had a family member stop taking them and almost immediately had an event. I wonder how common that type of reaction is.
I thought it's pretty well accepted they are grossly over-prescribed. a kid is given mess when he's too lazy to do homework these days is, because no one wants to accept responsibility for the kid and/or label him lazy, so there must be some mental illness to explain his academic failure.
Anti-depressants, anti-anxiety medication, and ADHA meds are actually an extremely common factor amongst mass shooters. I'm talking REALLY common. Like, the vast majority of mass shooters are on something or other in that category, or were at some point (the most compelling studies are the ones that explore the connection between ritalin use as a kid and violent tendencies as adolescents or adults - the Columbine massacre led researchers to explore this). However, that doesn't necessarily mean that the meds are the cause, obviously. Nobody has ever been able to prove that is the case. It simply proves that the vast majority mass shooters have some sort of mental health problem. And that isn't exactly a surprise (and of course that doesn't mean that everyone with mental illness is dangerous. 99% of people with mental illnesses are not violent - I'm sure everyone here knows that already. Also, of course, mental illness does not = insanity. Mental illness is no excuse for committing murder unless we're talking severe mental illnesses that involve delusion and shit).
For sure.
Do you think that these types of medications are over prescribed?
I had had a family member stop taking them and almost immediately had an event. I wonder how common that type of reaction is.
I thought it's pretty well accepted they are grossly over-prescribed. a kid is given mess when he's too lazy to do homework these days is, because no one wants to accept responsibility for the kid and/or label him lazy, so there must be some mental illness to explain his academic failure.
Anti-depressants, anti-anxiety medication, and ADHA meds are actually an extremely common factor amongst mass shooters. I'm talking REALLY common. Like, the vast majority of mass shooters are on something or other in that category, or were at some point (the most compelling studies are the ones that explore the connection between ritalin use as a kid and violent tendencies as adolescents or adults - the Columbine massacre led researchers to explore this). However, that doesn't necessarily mean that the meds are the cause, obviously. Nobody has ever been able to prove that is the case. It simply proves that the vast majority mass shooters have some sort of mental health problem. And that isn't exactly a surprise (and of course that doesn't mean that everyone with mental illness is dangerous. 99% of people with mental illnesses are not violent - I'm sure everyone here knows that already. Also, of course, mental illness does not = insanity. Mental illness is no excuse for committing murder unless we're talking severe mental illnesses that involve delusion and shit).
For sure.
Do you think that these types of medications are over prescribed?
I had had a family member stop taking them and almost immediately had an event. I wonder how common that type of reaction is.
I am no expert, but I think that Ritalin and other ADHD drugs are overprescribed to children for sure. I also think ADHD is way over-diagnosed in children. I have read studies about the impact of those drugs on people's development. It's not good, and there does seem to be some link between those drugs and the violent acts of some who have taken them - the number of people who were on ritalin and then later committed a horrible violent crime definitely seems beyond coincidence.. there is the still the chicken and the egg argument to be had there of course.... But for adults with depression and anxiety? No, I don't really feel like antidepressants are generally overprescribed. I think most adults know when meds are something they need, and most are able to assess that the meds aren't doing the job too. However, I do think that doctors are not well equipped when it comes to trying to help their patients with depression or anxiety. I don't disagree with the drug prescriptions (nor with the trial and error process it often takes with such meds, nor with the decision to abandon the drugs if they aren't working the way the patient hoped), but I feel that doctors are not able to offer a well-rounded treatment, which should involve supplementary therapy. Meds alone are often not adequate - these people need support above and beyond the meds. Obviously this isn't happening for so many because the resources simply are not there for so many patients. So I think the issue for adults is not meds. The issue is the overriding lack of a well-rounded, easily accessible mental healthcare system. The government needs to do something drastic about that issue IMO.
ADHD itself is highly correlated with both violent and non-violent criminal behaviour as well as drug abuse. Kids who are appropriately treated tend to have a better chance at not being criminally involved as teens and adults. Blaming the behaviour on treatment rather than the root condition is just a misunderstanding of causation.
Correct. Many with ADHD or conduct disorder as children that is not treated early go on to develop Antisocial Personality Disorder.
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Anything related to ADHD, like Ritalin. I didn't even think it's disputed, pretty much that everyone agreed those drugs are over prescribed. And lazy was just an example, a lot of underperforming kids get diagnosed and prescribed something when they don't know what else to do. Happened in my family, but not just from that experience, there's a lot of professionals who say it is over prescribed.
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The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
guns should be banned.
people should be banned from obtaining guns.
people should be banned from transferring gun ownership.
not all guns, and not all people. just a lot more than are banned now.
are you calling for anti-depressants to be banned?
Just trying to see the connection here. Rx kills people, so we shouldn't regulate guns?
Guns don't kill people, the NRA does!
Am I doing it right?
Do you think that these types of medications are over prescribed?
I had had a family member stop taking them and almost immediately had an event. I wonder how common that type of reaction is.
ADHD itself is highly correlated with both violent and non-violent criminal behaviour as well as drug abuse. Kids who are appropriately treated tend to have a better chance at not being criminally involved as teens and adults. Blaming the behaviour on treatment rather than the root condition is just a misunderstanding of causation.
a kid is given mess when he's too lazy to do homework these days is, because no one wants to accept responsibility for the kid and/or label him lazy, so there must be some mental illness to explain his academic failure.
I didn't even think it's disputed, pretty much that everyone agreed those drugs are over prescribed.
And lazy was just an example, a lot of underperforming kids get diagnosed and prescribed something when they don't know what else to do. Happened in my family, but not just from that experience, there's a lot of professionals who say it is over prescribed.