America's Gun Violence

Go Beavers

mcgruff10 said:

Go Beavers said:

mcgruff10 said:

PJPOWER said:

Go Beavers said:

mcgruff10 said:

Go Beavers said:

PJPOWER said:

Go Beavers said:

Any gun owners feeling the time crunch? Only two weeks left until Obama takes em all.

I am personally focusing on positive change like national carry reciprocity and the the hearing protection act being passed

Will that make ear plugs legal?

Hopefully silencers will soon be legal!

What could go wrong?

Fewer deaf people? Wait, that's a good thing

When my father in law hunts with his 30.06 he has to take his hearing aids out. I m thinking a silencer could help him out a bit. But the anti gunners who know nothing about silencers fear then because they ve watched one too many mob movies lol.

Seems like you guys are afraid of ear plugs.

I wear ear plugs every time I shoot at a range. Hunting is a different story. It s pretty obvious you haven't hunted before.

I understand how it applies to hunting. So the silencers would be limited for use with hunting rifles?

PJPOWER

Go Beavers said:

mcgruff10 said:

Go Beavers said:

mcgruff10 said:

PJPOWER said:

Go Beavers said:

mcgruff10 said:

Go Beavers said:

PJPOWER said:

Go Beavers said:

Any gun owners feeling the time crunch? Only two weeks left until Obama takes em all.

I am personally focusing on positive change like national carry reciprocity and the the hearing protection act being passed

Will that make ear plugs legal?

Hopefully silencers will soon be legal!

What could go wrong?

Fewer deaf people? Wait, that's a good thing

When my father in law hunts with his 30.06 he has to take his hearing aids out. I m thinking a silencer could help him out a bit. But the anti gunners who know nothing about silencers fear then because they ve watched one too many mob movies lol.

Seems like you guys are afraid of ear plugs.

I wear ear plugs every time I shoot at a range. Hunting is a different story. It s pretty obvious you haven't hunted before.

I understand how it applies to hunting. So the silencers would be limited for use with hunting rifles?

Yeah, I can totally see where you're trying to lead this. Are we really going to jump into a "what is a hunting rifle" discussion for the thousandth time? I would say that they would be practical on any firearm that someone would like to not be as annoyingly loud. I've seen people here say that they get annoyed by the noise of neighbors target practicing...some places even have silencer ordinances to reduce noise.

mcgruff10

PJPOWER said:

Go Beavers said:

mcgruff10 said:

Go Beavers said:

mcgruff10 said:

PJPOWER said:

Go Beavers said:

mcgruff10 said:

Go Beavers said:

PJPOWER said:

Go Beavers said:

Any gun owners feeling the time crunch? Only two weeks left until Obama takes em all.

I am personally focusing on positive change like national carry reciprocity and the the hearing protection act being passed

Will that make ear plugs legal?

Hopefully silencers will soon be legal!

What could go wrong?

Fewer deaf people? Wait, that's a good thing

When my father in law hunts with his 30.06 he has to take his hearing aids out. I m thinking a silencer could help him out a bit. But the anti gunners who know nothing about silencers fear then because they ve watched one too many mob movies lol.

Seems like you guys are afraid of ear plugs.

I wear ear plugs every time I shoot at a range. Hunting is a different story. It s pretty obvious you haven't hunted before.

I understand how it applies to hunting. So the silencers would be limited for use with hunting rifles?

Yeah, I can totally see where you're trying to lead this. Are we really going to jump into a "what is a hunting rifle" discussion for the thousandth time? I would say that they would be practical on any firearm that someone would like to not be as annoyingly loud. I've seen people here say that they get annoyed by the noise of neighbors target practicing...some places even have silencer ordinances to reduce noise.

All good points. Go beavers you didn't answer my question: how would legalizing silencers increase crime?
To me a silencer is like an accessory on a gun. I.e. A scope, a forward grip, a collapsible stock, etc

Go Beavers

mcgruff10 said:

PJPOWER said:

Go Beavers said:

mcgruff10 said:

Go Beavers said:

mcgruff10 said:

PJPOWER said:

Go Beavers said:

mcgruff10 said:

Go Beavers said:

PJPOWER said:

Go Beavers said:

Any gun owners feeling the time crunch? Only two weeks left until Obama takes em all.

I am personally focusing on positive change like national carry reciprocity and the the hearing protection act being passed

Will that make ear plugs legal?

Hopefully silencers will soon be legal!

What could go wrong?

Fewer deaf people? Wait, that's a good thing

When my father in law hunts with his 30.06 he has to take his hearing aids out. I m thinking a silencer could help him out a bit. But the anti gunners who know nothing about silencers fear then because they ve watched one too many mob movies lol.

Seems like you guys are afraid of ear plugs.

I wear ear plugs every time I shoot at a range. Hunting is a different story. It s pretty obvious you haven't hunted before.

I understand how it applies to hunting. So the silencers would be limited for use with hunting rifles?

Yeah, I can totally see where you're trying to lead this. Are we really going to jump into a "what is a hunting rifle" discussion for the thousandth time? I would say that they would be practical on any firearm that someone would like to not be as annoyingly loud. I've seen people here say that they get annoyed by the noise of neighbors target practicing...some places even have silencer ordinances to reduce noise.

All good points. Go beavers you didn't answer my question: how would legalizing silencers increase crime?
To me a silencer is like an accessory on a gun. I.e. A scope, a forward grip, a collapsible stock, etc

Making it easier to kill someone without others noticing seems like a person may choose to go that route. I guess my logic is that if it's easier to get away with something, then people are more likely to do it.

Go Beavers

PJPOWER said:

Go Beavers said:

mcgruff10 said:

Go Beavers said:

mcgruff10 said:

PJPOWER said:

Go Beavers said:

mcgruff10 said:

Go Beavers said:

PJPOWER said:

Go Beavers said:

Any gun owners feeling the time crunch? Only two weeks left until Obama takes em all.

I am personally focusing on positive change like national carry reciprocity and the the hearing protection act being passed

Will that make ear plugs legal?

Hopefully silencers will soon be legal!

What could go wrong?

Fewer deaf people? Wait, that's a good thing

When my father in law hunts with his 30.06 he has to take his hearing aids out. I m thinking a silencer could help him out a bit. But the anti gunners who know nothing about silencers fear then because they ve watched one too many mob movies lol.

Seems like you guys are afraid of ear plugs.

I wear ear plugs every time I shoot at a range. Hunting is a different story. It s pretty obvious you haven't hunted before.

I understand how it applies to hunting. So the silencers would be limited for use with hunting rifles?

Yeah, I can totally see where you're trying to lead this. Are we really going to jump into a "what is a hunting rifle" discussion for the thousandth time? I would say that they would be practical on any firearm that someone would like to not be as annoyingly loud. I've seen people here say that they get annoyed by the noise of neighbors target practicing...some places even have silencer ordinances to reduce noise.

I wasn't going into what's a hunting rifle discussion. I was just wondering what the appeal is.

Stickman12

Go Beavers said:

mcgruff10 said:

PJPOWER said:

Go Beavers said:

mcgruff10 said:

Go Beavers said:

mcgruff10 said:

PJPOWER said:

Go Beavers said:

mcgruff10 said:

Go Beavers said:

PJPOWER said:

Go Beavers said:

Any gun owners feeling the time crunch? Only two weeks left until Obama takes em all.

I am personally focusing on positive change like national carry reciprocity and the the hearing protection act being passed

Will that make ear plugs legal?

Hopefully silencers will soon be legal!

What could go wrong?

Fewer deaf people? Wait, that's a good thing

When my father in law hunts with his 30.06 he has to take his hearing aids out. I m thinking a silencer could help him out a bit. But the anti gunners who know nothing about silencers fear then because they ve watched one too many mob movies lol.

Seems like you guys are afraid of ear plugs.

I wear ear plugs every time I shoot at a range. Hunting is a different story. It s pretty obvious you haven't hunted before.

I understand how it applies to hunting. So the silencers would be limited for use with hunting rifles?

Yeah, I can totally see where you're trying to lead this. Are we really going to jump into a "what is a hunting rifle" discussion for the thousandth time? I would say that they would be practical on any firearm that someone would like to not be as annoyingly loud. I've seen people here say that they get annoyed by the noise of neighbors target practicing...some places even have silencer ordinances to reduce noise.

All good points. Go beavers you didn't answer my question: how would legalizing silencers increase crime?
To me a silencer is like an accessory on a gun. I.e. A scope, a forward grip, a collapsible stock, etc

Making it easier to kill someone without others noticing seems like a person may choose to go that route. I guess my logic is that if it's easier to get away with something, then people are more likely to do it.

A silencer lowers the dB level but it is still loud as shit. A silencer on a 22 would make it sound like a BB gun. Damn near everything else would still be pretty damn loud

Halifax2TheMax

FLF false flag event. Sponsored by Trump handlers to make Scott look presidential and justify building the wall. Tolerate. Evil Doers. Sanders tweet says so.

Halifax2TheMax

Hey! I know! Come on over to the house and let's go shooting! We'll vote on whether it's a, (place your local target here, airport, government center, local elementary school, busy Main Street, mall, nightclub, fast food joint or random neighbor who doesn't look like you), and then there will be silencers available cuz don't want you to hurt your ears, you need 'em see?

http://www.boston.com/news/crime/2017/01/06/83-guns-seized-from-lexington-man-accused-of-harassing-black-neighbors

Halifax2TheMax

"Cuz like I have 83 rooms in my house and I'm a poor shot so I like to try again," said the defendant. Said defendant lives in a two room sub-basement, bunker like apartment. When asked why he needed so much ammo, the defendant claimed, " he goes to the range to keep from being rusty." And, " it makes his aim true." Trump tweeted, " 2nd amendment isn't like the 1st! Sad!"

Halifax2TheMax

Halifax2TheMax said:

Hey! I know! Come on over to the house and let's go shooting! We'll vote on whether it's a, (place your local target here, airport, government center, local elementary school, busy Main Street, mall, nightclub, fast food joint or random neighbor who doesn't look like you), and then there will be silencers available cuz don't want you to hurt your ears, you need 'em see?

http://www.boston.com/news/crime/2017/01/06/83-guns-seized-from-lexington-man-accused-of-harassing-black-neighbors

False flag! Obama's last gasp to grab your guns!! Stay strong 9th Amend! So sad.

Go Beavers

Stickman12 said:

Go Beavers said:

mcgruff10 said:

PJPOWER said:

Go Beavers said:

mcgruff10 said:

Go Beavers said:

mcgruff10 said:

PJPOWER said:

Go Beavers said:

mcgruff10 said:

Go Beavers said:

PJPOWER said:

Go Beavers said:

Any gun owners feeling the time crunch? Only two weeks left until Obama takes em all.

I am personally focusing on positive change like national carry reciprocity and the the hearing protection act being passed

Will that make ear plugs legal?

Hopefully silencers will soon be legal!

What could go wrong?

Fewer deaf people? Wait, that's a good thing

When my father in law hunts with his 30.06 he has to take his hearing aids out. I m thinking a silencer could help him out a bit. But the anti gunners who know nothing about silencers fear then because they ve watched one too many mob movies lol.

Seems like you guys are afraid of ear plugs.

I wear ear plugs every time I shoot at a range. Hunting is a different story. It s pretty obvious you haven't hunted before.

I understand how it applies to hunting. So the silencers would be limited for use with hunting rifles?

Yeah, I can totally see where you're trying to lead this. Are we really going to jump into a "what is a hunting rifle" discussion for the thousandth time? I would say that they would be practical on any firearm that someone would like to not be as annoyingly loud. I've seen people here say that they get annoyed by the noise of neighbors target practicing...some places even have silencer ordinances to reduce noise.

All good points. Go beavers you didn't answer my question: how would legalizing silencers increase crime?
To me a silencer is like an accessory on a gun. I.e. A scope, a forward grip, a collapsible stock, etc

Making it easier to kill someone without others noticing seems like a person may choose to go that route. I guess my logic is that if it's easier to get away with something, then people are more likely to do it.

A silencer lowers the dB level but it is still loud as shit. A silencer on a 22 would make it sound like a BB gun. Damn near everything else would still be pretty damn loud

If everything else is loud, then what's the advantage using a silencer when hunting?

PJPOWER

Go Beavers said:

Stickman12 said:

Go Beavers said:

mcgruff10 said:

PJPOWER said:

Go Beavers said:

mcgruff10 said:

Go Beavers said:

mcgruff10 said:

PJPOWER said:

Go Beavers said:

mcgruff10 said:

Go Beavers said:

PJPOWER said:

Go Beavers said:

Any gun owners feeling the time crunch? Only two weeks left until Obama takes em all.

I am personally focusing on positive change like national carry reciprocity and the the hearing protection act being passed

Will that make ear plugs legal?

Hopefully silencers will soon be legal!

What could go wrong?

Fewer deaf people? Wait, that's a good thing

When my father in law hunts with his 30.06 he has to take his hearing aids out. I m thinking a silencer could help him out a bit. But the anti gunners who know nothing about silencers fear then because they ve watched one too many mob movies lol.

Seems like you guys are afraid of ear plugs.

I wear ear plugs every time I shoot at a range. Hunting is a different story. It s pretty obvious you haven't hunted before.

I understand how it applies to hunting. So the silencers would be limited for use with hunting rifles?

Yeah, I can totally see where you're trying to lead this. Are we really going to jump into a "what is a hunting rifle" discussion for the thousandth time? I would say that they would be practical on any firearm that someone would like to not be as annoyingly loud. I've seen people here say that they get annoyed by the noise of neighbors target practicing...some places even have silencer ordinances to reduce noise.

All good points. Go beavers you didn't answer my question: how would legalizing silencers increase crime?
To me a silencer is like an accessory on a gun. I.e. A scope, a forward grip, a collapsible stock, etc

Making it easier to kill someone without others noticing seems like a person may choose to go that route. I guess my logic is that if it's easier to get away with something, then people are more likely to do it.

A silencer lowers the dB level but it is still loud as shit. A silencer on a 22 would make it sound like a BB gun. Damn near everything else would still be pretty damn loud

If everything else is loud, then what's the advantage using a silencer when hunting?

Stickman's statement was not entirely true. There are plenty of hunting caliber that would not be "loud as shit". I guess "loud as shit" is all about perspective though. He is right in the respect that they do not make the guns completely silent like Hollywood fake news would lead you to believe(contrary to the term "silencer") though and the Db level is going to depend on the caliber and speed of the bullet (super sonic creates sonic boom). It will lower the decibel level in many calibers to a level that will not cause hearing damage, but you are still going to hear the sound of the bullet flying through the air.
I've also talked to people with experience that say silencers actually can make it easier to spot where a gunshot is coming from because of the lack of deafening boom and the echoing associated with it, so that would maybe make them a poor choice for mass shooters...Also to mention is the psychological impact from a loud, ear ringing concussion from a muzzle blast probably makes situations more chaotic. People are afraid of things they know nothing about...

mcgruff10

Go Beavers said:

Stickman12 said:

Go Beavers said:

mcgruff10 said:

PJPOWER said:

Go Beavers said:

mcgruff10 said:

Go Beavers said:

mcgruff10 said:

PJPOWER said:

Go Beavers said:

mcgruff10 said:

Go Beavers said:

PJPOWER said:

Go Beavers said:

Any gun owners feeling the time crunch? Only two weeks left until Obama takes em all.

I am personally focusing on positive change like national carry reciprocity and the the hearing protection act being passed

Will that make ear plugs legal?

Hopefully silencers will soon be legal!

What could go wrong?

Fewer deaf people? Wait, that's a good thing

When my father in law hunts with his 30.06 he has to take his hearing aids out. I m thinking a silencer could help him out a bit. But the anti gunners who know nothing about silencers fear then because they ve watched one too many mob movies lol.

Seems like you guys are afraid of ear plugs.

I wear ear plugs every time I shoot at a range. Hunting is a different story. It s pretty obvious you haven't hunted before.

I understand how it applies to hunting. So the silencers would be limited for use with hunting rifles?

Yeah, I can totally see where you're trying to lead this. Are we really going to jump into a "what is a hunting rifle" discussion for the thousandth time? I would say that they would be practical on any firearm that someone would like to not be as annoyingly loud. I've seen people here say that they get annoyed by the noise of neighbors target practicing...some places even have silencer ordinances to reduce noise.

All good points. Go beavers you didn't answer my question: how would legalizing silencers increase crime?
To me a silencer is like an accessory on a gun. I.e. A scope, a forward grip, a collapsible stock, etc

Making it easier to kill someone without others noticing seems like a person may choose to go that route. I guess my logic is that if it's easier to get away with something, then people are more likely to do it.

A silencer lowers the dB level but it is still loud as shit. A silencer on a 22 would make it sound like a BB gun. Damn near everything else would still be pretty damn loud

If everything else is loud, then what's the advantage using a silencer when hunting?

The only advantage to it is your hearing gets saved. It doesn't make you shoot more accurate or farther.

PJPOWER

Go Beavers said:

Any gun owners feeling the time crunch? Only two weeks left until Obama takes em all.

Turn this around. Any gun control advocates feeling the time crunch? Only two weeks left and lame duck Obama hasn't done shit!

JC29856

Estaban Santiago still fighting the Iraq war in ft lauderdale. How about our intelligence services? Iraq vet tells them isis took over his mind....US Intel, you're fine son, thanks for your service.

rgambs

mcgruff10 said:

dignin said:

mcgruff10 said:

BS44325 said:

dignin said:

Sounds like a guy travelling with his legal gun. He was a good guy with a gun, until he wasn't.

Oh...is that what it sounds like? It sounds like a known wolf to most everbody else.

Remember, it s always ok to make quick generalizations and assumptions on this forum when it comes to people using firearms illegally. God forbid you call someone a terrorist though....

Doesn't help your case that someone like that was able to travel with a gun. Maybe we should make it easier for folks like him to own and travel with guns, sounds like a solution to me.

Good job guys, hopefully Trump will make the laws even more relaxed.

How doesn't that help my case? 99.9% of gun owners are law abiding citizens. Why is it that the .1% of people who abuse these laws represent all gun owners?
And unless you have a crystal ball, i m not seeing how trump is going to make gun laws more lax. What would that entail?
I love how this thread was bumped for the first time in a month

That line is just as tired and worn out...

PJPOWER

rgambs said:

mcgruff10 said:

dignin said:

mcgruff10 said:

BS44325 said:

dignin said:

Sounds like a guy travelling with his legal gun. He was a good guy with a gun, until he wasn't.

Oh...is that what it sounds like? It sounds like a known wolf to most everbody else.

Remember, it s always ok to make quick generalizations and assumptions on this forum when it comes to people using firearms illegally. God forbid you call someone a terrorist though....

Doesn't help your case that someone like that was able to travel with a gun. Maybe we should make it easier for folks like him to own and travel with guns, sounds like a solution to me.

Good job guys, hopefully Trump will make the laws even more relaxed.

How doesn't that help my case? 99.9% of gun owners are law abiding citizens. Why is it that the .1% of people who abuse these laws represent all gun owners?
And unless you have a crystal ball, i m not seeing how trump is going to make gun laws more lax. What would that entail?
I love how this thread was bumped for the first time in a month

That line is just as tired and worn out...

And true.

mcgruff10

rgambs said:

mcgruff10 said:

dignin said:

mcgruff10 said:

BS44325 said:

dignin said:

Sounds like a guy travelling with his legal gun. He was a good guy with a gun, until he wasn't.

Oh...is that what it sounds like? It sounds like a known wolf to most everbody else.

Remember, it s always ok to make quick generalizations and assumptions on this forum when it comes to people using firearms illegally. God forbid you call someone a terrorist though....

Doesn't help your case that someone like that was able to travel with a gun. Maybe we should make it easier for folks like him to own and travel with guns, sounds like a solution to me.

Good job guys, hopefully Trump will make the laws even more relaxed.

How doesn't that help my case? 99.9% of gun owners are law abiding citizens. Why is it that the .1% of people who abuse these laws represent all gun owners?
And unless you have a crystal ball, i m not seeing how trump is going to make gun laws more lax. What would that entail?
I love how this thread was bumped for the first time in a month

That line is just as tired and worn out...

but it's true lol. And I don't think that line has been used that much because most of the people who post in this thread are anti 2nd amendment.

rgambs

PJPOWER said:

rgambs said:

mcgruff10 said:

dignin said:

mcgruff10 said:

BS44325 said:

dignin said:

Sounds like a guy travelling with his legal gun. He was a good guy with a gun, until he wasn't.

Oh...is that what it sounds like? It sounds like a known wolf to most everbody else.

Remember, it s always ok to make quick generalizations and assumptions on this forum when it comes to people using firearms illegally. God forbid you call someone a terrorist though....

Doesn't help your case that someone like that was able to travel with a gun. Maybe we should make it easier for folks like him to own and travel with guns, sounds like a solution to me.

Good job guys, hopefully Trump will make the laws even more relaxed.

How doesn't that help my case? 99.9% of gun owners are law abiding citizens. Why is it that the .1% of people who abuse these laws represent all gun owners?
And unless you have a crystal ball, i m not seeing how trump is going to make gun laws more lax. What would that entail?
I love how this thread was bumped for the first time in a month

That line is just as tired and worn out...

And true.

So what? I don't give a damn about a whiny hobbyists complaints about what is fair and what isn't.
Booo-fucking-hooo is all I hear from the pro-gun crowd.

PJPOWER

rgambs said:

PJPOWER said:

rgambs said:

mcgruff10 said:

dignin said:

mcgruff10 said:

BS44325 said:

dignin said:

Sounds like a guy travelling with his legal gun. He was a good guy with a gun, until he wasn't.

Oh...is that what it sounds like? It sounds like a known wolf to most everbody else.

Remember, it s always ok to make quick generalizations and assumptions on this forum when it comes to people using firearms illegally. God forbid you call someone a terrorist though....

Doesn't help your case that someone like that was able to travel with a gun. Maybe we should make it easier for folks like him to own and travel with guns, sounds like a solution to me.

Good job guys, hopefully Trump will make the laws even more relaxed.

How doesn't that help my case? 99.9% of gun owners are law abiding citizens. Why is it that the .1% of people who abuse these laws represent all gun owners?
And unless you have a crystal ball, i m not seeing how trump is going to make gun laws more lax. What would that entail?
I love how this thread was bumped for the first time in a month

That line is just as tired and worn out...

And true.

So what? I don't give a damn about a whiny hobbyists complaints about what is fair and what isn't.
Booo-fucking-hooo is all I hear from the pro-gun crowd.

You sure it's the pro-gun crowd boo-hooing? If you don't give a damn about hobbyists, how can you expect them to give a damn about you or what you consider fair? Respect goes both ways.