America's Gun Violence

FoxyRedLa

Yes. UCLA. Murder suicide. Sick.

Gern Blansten

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

Godfather. said:

Gern Blansten said:

Godfather. said:

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Why is it the places with the strictest gun laws have the most gun violence?

What a ridiculous statement.

then please explain. it's a fair question.

Godfather.

uh...because it's a completely false statement. Come on man

that all depends where we gather our information from right ? as I just stated in the last post I have a different idea about these gun laws.

Godfather.

Sure if you gather it from a place that is wrong then you will be wrong.

It was a ridiculous statement. The evidence backs me up.

Put to mind that Australia has only 24 million people whereas America has 325 million people.

That's not a lot of people spread out in a country the same size of the US...

If we were comparing total gun murders you would have a point

The comparison is done as a % of population....so you don't have a point

josevolution

Don't worry gun lovers Trump is coming to save you & your precious weapons he will make sure everybody has a fare shot at purchasing any weapon you might fancy , woot woot Make America safe again !!

Gern Blansten

josevolution said:

Don't worry gun lovers Trump is coming to save you & your precious weapons he will make sure everybody has a fare shot at purchasing any weapon you might fancy , woot woot Make America safe again !!

Unless you are on one of his properties...then you can't have that gun

tempo_n_groove

I tried to find good data for cities with high gun crime but there are cities that have strict gun laws with high murders and lax gun laws with high murders. The info is all over the place.

tempo_n_groove

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

Godfather. said:

Gern Blansten said:

Godfather. said:

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Why is it the places with the strictest gun laws have the most gun violence?

What a ridiculous statement.

then please explain. it's a fair question.

Godfather.

uh...because it's a completely false statement. Come on man

that all depends where we gather our information from right ? as I just stated in the last post I have a different idea about these gun laws.

Godfather.

Sure if you gather it from a place that is wrong then you will be wrong.

It was a ridiculous statement. The evidence backs me up.

Put to mind that Australia has only 24 million people whereas America has 325 million people.

That's not a lot of people spread out in a country the same size of the US...

If we were comparing total gun murders you would have a point

The comparison is done as a % of population....so you don't have a point

I brought up population because of social aspects.

josevolution

Ahh the good o'le not in my house logic but he stated that when his POTUS there will be no more gun free zones , he wants everybody to have a fair shot lol lol !!!

tempo_n_groove

josevolution said:

Ahh the good o'le not in my house logic but he stated that when his POTUS there will be no more gun free zones , he wants everybody to have a fair shot lol lol !!!

I'm all for firearms but did he really say that?

josevolution

tempo_n_groove said:

josevolution said:

Ahh the good o'le not in my house logic but he stated that when his POTUS there will be no more gun free zones , he wants everybody to have a fair shot lol lol !!!

I'm all for firearms but did he really say that?

Yep he stated with him Prez there will be no more gun free zones !!

Gern Blansten

tempo_n_groove said:

I tried to find good data for cities with high gun crime but there are cities that have strict gun laws with high murders and lax gun laws with high murders. The info is all over the place.

right and as mentioned above a city with strict gun laws is lame when you can buy a gun across city lines and bring it back to the city

tempo_n_groove

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

I tried to find good data for cities with high gun crime but there are cities that have strict gun laws with high murders and lax gun laws with high murders. The info is all over the place.

right and as mentioned above a city with strict gun laws is lame when you can buy a gun across city lines and bring it back to the city

You do realize you're breaking the law by bringing that gun over city lines right?

That's why I find a city with strict gun laws silly. It applies to law abiding citizens. Criminals could care less what the law is.

rgambs

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

I tried to find good data for cities with high gun crime but there are cities that have strict gun laws with high murders and lax gun laws with high murders. The info is all over the place.

right and as mentioned above a city with strict gun laws is lame when you can buy a gun across city lines and bring it back to the city

You do realize you're breaking the law by bringing that gun over city lines right?

That's why I find a city with strict gun laws silly. It applies to law abiding citizens. Criminals could care less what the law is.

That's exactly why we need nationwide controls AT THE POINT OF PURCHASE and registration to punish those who put guns into criminal hands.

tempo_n_groove

rgambs said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

I tried to find good data for cities with high gun crime but there are cities that have strict gun laws with high murders and lax gun laws with high murders. The info is all over the place.

right and as mentioned above a city with strict gun laws is lame when you can buy a gun across city lines and bring it back to the city

You do realize you're breaking the law by bringing that gun over city lines right?

That's why I find a city with strict gun laws silly. It applies to law abiding citizens. Criminals could care less what the law is.

That's exactly why we need nationwide controls AT THE POINT OF PURCHASE and registration to punish those who put guns into criminal hands.

If I could count on our govt to NOT use registration against us and have a nationwide law that all the states could agree on I would be all in.

muskydan

josevolution said:

Ahh nothing like another college on lockdown and a couple of dead people to start the summer shooting season good ol'e America !!!

Ya, real sad stuff all around. Especially when the media referred to him as WHITE initially and refused to mention he was MUSLIM not Hindu. Not the Narative the liberal media wants to display to make the Don even stronger.

PJ_Soul

What, are you joking or are you delusional?? Lol. The media is all over it when a Muslim is a shooter. What you're saying is literally the exact opposite of what's true. If the media got the ethnicity wrong, it would have been because they were getting bad reports.

muskydan

PJ_Soul said:

What, are you joking or are you delusional?? Lol. The media is all over it when a Muslim is a shooter. What you're saying is literally the exact opposite of what's true. If the media got the ethnicity wrong, it would have been because they were getting bad reports.

Ha,ha...me delusional? It appears somebody has taken too make hockey pucks to the head if you don't get it ahe... Just to clarify, you do know he was not White and was MUSLIM and not Hindu....

Degeneratefk

Who fucking cares what he was? The bottom line was be was yet another responsible gun owner, until he wasn't.

PJ_Soul

muskydan said:

PJ_Soul said:

What, are you joking or are you delusional?? Lol. The media is all over it when a Muslim is a shooter. What you're saying is literally the exact opposite of what's true. If the media got the ethnicity wrong, it would have been because they were getting bad reports.

Ha,ha...me delusional? It appears somebody has taken too make hockey pucks to the head if you don't get it ahe... Just to clarify, you do know he was not White and was MUSLIM and not Hindu....

Yes, you said that. The media does not deliberately try to hide the fact that a Muslim carried out an act of terror.

PJPOWER

PJ_Soul said:

muskydan said:

PJ_Soul said:

What, are you joking or are you delusional?? Lol. The media is all over it when a Muslim is a shooter. What you're saying is literally the exact opposite of what's true. If the media got the ethnicity wrong, it would have been because they were getting bad reports.

Ha,ha...me delusional? It appears somebody has taken too make hockey pucks to the head if you don't get it ahe... Just to clarify, you do know he was not White and was MUSLIM and not Hindu....

Yes, you said that. The media does not deliberately try to hide the fact that a Muslim carried out an act of terror.

Are you sure about that? You place a lot of trust in "the media" it sounds like. I believe the media will say whatever they want in order to obtain more $. It's been seen a few times lately, aka Geraldo, Brian William, several other noteworthy as of late.

PJPOWER

Degeneratefk said:

Who fucking cares what he was? The bottom line was be was yet another responsible gun owner, until he wasn't.

Bullshit, he is why responsible gun owners want a way of saving themselves from the other side of the equasion. He is the asshole side of the equation that gives people the need for self-protection.