Great so when can I expect to be able to carry out in open !
What are you talking about? In some states people have been able to carry out in the open for years. Although, judging by your picture, if you consume marijuana you are currently not legally allowed to purchase or own a firearm and cannot legally open carry anywhere.
I figured you gun lovers will want to be able to carry in every state , so they drug test people before you can purchase a gun ?
You can legally carry in pretty much every state if you follow the laws of those states. They do not drug test you before you can purchase a gun, but if you are going to lie on a federal document then that is your prerogative. If you are a holder of a medicinal marijuana card, it would be pretty easy for the Feds to prosecute you if they so chose. I think this has been quite the topic of controversy lately. Everyone can physically purchase or carry firearms anywhere they choose, only law abiding citizens will do so in a legal manner. You have a weed icon as your profile pic, and have made public statements about marijuana consumption...so there is that. If a prosecutor needed to prove you lied on a federal document or needed a warrant to have you drug tested for whatever gun related reason...you have made it pretty easy for them to do so. Now back to your question,"When can I expect to be able to carry out on the open"...are you asking about yourself from a legal perspective?
So they are okay with drunks walking around with guns, but god forbid someone who uses medical marijuana has one! Makes sense.
Generally there are laws that prohibit the mix of alcohol and carrying but trust me when I say that the community comes down on those that do it.
I'm sure that form doesn't ask people if they drink, forcing those who do use alcohol to lie on a federal form.
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Great so when can I expect to be able to carry out in open !
What are you talking about? In some states people have been able to carry out in the open for years. Although, judging by your picture, if you consume marijuana you are currently not legally allowed to purchase or own a firearm and cannot legally open carry anywhere.
I figured you gun lovers will want to be able to carry in every state , so they drug test people before you can purchase a gun ?
You can legally carry in pretty much every state if you follow the laws of those states. They do not drug test you before you can purchase a gun, but if you are going to lie on a federal document then that is your prerogative. If you are a holder of a medicinal marijuana card, it would be pretty easy for the Feds to prosecute you if they so chose. I think this has been quite the topic of controversy lately. Everyone can physically purchase or carry firearms anywhere they choose, only law abiding citizens will do so in a legal manner. You have a weed icon as your profile pic, and have made public statements about marijuana consumption...so there is that. If a prosecutor needed to prove you lied on a federal document or needed a warrant to have you drug tested for whatever gun related reason...you have made it pretty easy for them to do so. Now back to your question,"When can I expect to be able to carry out on the open"...are you asking about yourself from a legal perspective?
So they are okay with drunks walking around with guns, but god forbid someone who uses medical marijuana has one! Makes sense.
Generally there are laws that prohibit the mix of alcohol and carrying but trust me when I say that the community comes down on those that do it.
I'm sure that form doesn't ask people if they drink, forcing those who do use alcohol to lie on a federal form.
Great so when can I expect to be able to carry out in open !
What are you talking about? In some states people have been able to carry out in the open for years. Although, judging by your picture, if you consume marijuana you are currently not legally allowed to purchase or own a firearm and cannot legally open carry anywhere.
I figured you gun lovers will want to be able to carry in every state , so they drug test people before you can purchase a gun ?
You can legally carry in pretty much every state if you follow the laws of those states. They do not drug test you before you can purchase a gun, but if you are going to lie on a federal document then that is your prerogative. If you are a holder of a medicinal marijuana card, it would be pretty easy for the Feds to prosecute you if they so chose. I think this has been quite the topic of controversy lately. Everyone can physically purchase or carry firearms anywhere they choose, only law abiding citizens will do so in a legal manner. You have a weed icon as your profile pic, and have made public statements about marijuana consumption...so there is that. If a prosecutor needed to prove you lied on a federal document or needed a warrant to have you drug tested for whatever gun related reason...you have made it pretty easy for them to do so. Now back to your question,"When can I expect to be able to carry out on the open"...are you asking about yourself from a legal perspective?
So they are okay with drunks walking around with guns, but god forbid someone who uses medical marijuana has one! Makes sense.
Great so when can I expect to be able to carry out in open !
What are you talking about? In some states people have been able to carry out in the open for years. Although, judging by your picture, if you consume marijuana you are currently not legally allowed to purchase or own a firearm and cannot legally open carry anywhere.
I figured you gun lovers will want to be able to carry in every state , so they drug test people before you can purchase a gun ?
You can legally carry in pretty much every state if you follow the laws of those states. They do not drug test you before you can purchase a gun, but if you are going to lie on a federal document then that is your prerogative. If you are a holder of a medicinal marijuana card, it would be pretty easy for the Feds to prosecute you if they so chose. I think this has been quite the topic of controversy lately. Everyone can physically purchase or carry firearms anywhere they choose, only law abiding citizens will do so in a legal manner. You have a weed icon as your profile pic, and have made public statements about marijuana consumption...so there is that. If a prosecutor needed to prove you lied on a federal document or needed a warrant to have you drug tested for whatever gun related reason...you have made it pretty easy for them to do so. Now back to your question,"When can I expect to be able to carry out on the open"...are you asking about yourself from a legal perspective?
So they are okay with drunks walking around with guns, but god forbid someone who uses medical marijuana has one! Makes sense.
Generally there are laws that prohibit the mix of alcohol and carrying but trust me when I say that the community comes down on those that do it.
I'm sure that form doesn't ask people if they drink, forcing those who do use alcohol to lie on a federal form.
I'd have to look at the form again, but it is illegal to carry while intoxicated with alcohol or anything else. I'm trying to remember what it worded about being "addicted to or abusing".
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Dont forget "high powered" and "designed to kill".
Great so when can I expect to be able to carry out in open !
What are you talking about? In some states people have been able to carry out in the open for years. Although, judging by your picture, if you consume marijuana you are currently not legally allowed to purchase or own a firearm and cannot legally open carry anywhere.
I figured you gun lovers will want to be able to carry in every state , so they drug test people before you can purchase a gun ?
You can legally carry in pretty much every state if you follow the laws of those states. They do not drug test you before you can purchase a gun, but if you are going to lie on a federal document then that is your prerogative. If you are a holder of a medicinal marijuana card, it would be pretty easy for the Feds to prosecute you if they so chose. I think this has been quite the topic of controversy lately. Everyone can physically purchase or carry firearms anywhere they choose, only law abiding citizens will do so in a legal manner. You have a weed icon as your profile pic, and have made public statements about marijuana consumption...so there is that. If a prosecutor needed to prove you lied on a federal document or needed a warrant to have you drug tested for whatever gun related reason...you have made it pretty easy for them to do so. Now back to your question,"When can I expect to be able to carry out on the open"...are you asking about yourself from a legal perspective?
Yeah your right I'll just go to the black market or gun show and just buy what ever gun I want they'll be lucky if I even give them legit documentation , I can get any fake document I need SSC , Drivers License !
Once again, if you are going to break the law...then that is your personal prerogative. Sounds like you are now conspiring to participate in a felony. Maybe we should create some more laws for you to break! I think that what it boils down to is that the responsibility to not break the law is your own.
Stop it I guess you don't know me I'm totally against guns I've never ever been in a cop car let alone arrested never ever shot a living thing or dead for that matter , I dont believe in guns !
Great so when can I expect to be able to carry out in open !
What are you talking about? In some states people have been able to carry out in the open for years. Although, judging by your picture, if you consume marijuana you are currently not legally allowed to purchase or own a firearm and cannot legally open carry anywhere.
I figured you gun lovers will want to be able to carry in every state , so they drug test people before you can purchase a gun ?
You can legally carry in pretty much every state if you follow the laws of those states. They do not drug test you before you can purchase a gun, but if you are going to lie on a federal document then that is your prerogative. If you are a holder of a medicinal marijuana card, it would be pretty easy for the Feds to prosecute you if they so chose. I think this has been quite the topic of controversy lately. Everyone can physically purchase or carry firearms anywhere they choose, only law abiding citizens will do so in a legal manner. You have a weed icon as your profile pic, and have made public statements about marijuana consumption...so there is that. If a prosecutor needed to prove you lied on a federal document or needed a warrant to have you drug tested for whatever gun related reason...you have made it pretty easy for them to do so. Now back to your question,"When can I expect to be able to carry out on the open"...are you asking about yourself from a legal perspective?
Yeah your right I'll just go to the black market or gun show and just buy what ever gun I want they'll be lucky if I even give them legit documentation , I can get any fake document I need SSC , Drivers License !
Once again, if you are going to break the law...then that is your personal prerogative. Sounds like you are now conspiring to participate in a felony. Maybe we should create some more laws for you to break! I think that what it boils down to is that the responsibility to not break the law is your own.
Stop it I guess you don't know me I'm totally against guns I've never ever been in a cop car let alone arrested never ever shot a living thing or dead for that matter , I dont believe in guns !
Right on, is it safe to say that you were just trolling then?
Great so when can I expect to be able to carry out in open !
What are you talking about? In some states people have been able to carry out in the open for years. Although, judging by your picture, if you consume marijuana you are currently not legally allowed to purchase or own a firearm and cannot legally open carry anywhere.
I figured you gun lovers will want to be able to carry in every state , so they drug test people before you can purchase a gun ?
You can legally carry in pretty much every state if you follow the laws of those states. They do not drug test you before you can purchase a gun, but if you are going to lie on a federal document then that is your prerogative. If you are a holder of a medicinal marijuana card, it would be pretty easy for the Feds to prosecute you if they so chose. I think this has been quite the topic of controversy lately. Everyone can physically purchase or carry firearms anywhere they choose, only law abiding citizens will do so in a legal manner. You have a weed icon as your profile pic, and have made public statements about marijuana consumption...so there is that. If a prosecutor needed to prove you lied on a federal document or needed a warrant to have you drug tested for whatever gun related reason...you have made it pretty easy for them to do so. Now back to your question,"When can I expect to be able to carry out on the open"...are you asking about yourself from a legal perspective?
Yeah your right I'll just go to the black market or gun show and just buy what ever gun I want they'll be lucky if I even give them legit documentation , I can get any fake document I need SSC , Drivers License !
Once again, if you are going to break the law...then that is your personal prerogative. Sounds like you are now conspiring to participate in a felony. Maybe we should create some more laws for you to break! I think that what it boils down to is that the responsibility to not break the law is your own.
Stop it I guess you don't know me I'm totally against guns I've never ever been in a cop car let alone arrested never ever shot a living thing or dead for that matter , I dont believe in guns !
Right on, is it safe to say that you were just trolling then?
Great so when can I expect to be able to carry out in open !
What are you talking about? In some states people have been able to carry out in the open for years. Although, judging by your picture, if you consume marijuana you are currently not legally allowed to purchase or own a firearm and cannot legally open carry anywhere.
I figured you gun lovers will want to be able to carry in every state , so they drug test people before you can purchase a gun ?
You can legally carry in pretty much every state if you follow the laws of those states. They do not drug test you before you can purchase a gun, but if you are going to lie on a federal document then that is your prerogative. If you are a holder of a medicinal marijuana card, it would be pretty easy for the Feds to prosecute you if they so chose. I think this has been quite the topic of controversy lately. Everyone can physically purchase or carry firearms anywhere they choose, only law abiding citizens will do so in a legal manner. You have a weed icon as your profile pic, and have made public statements about marijuana consumption...so there is that. If a prosecutor needed to prove you lied on a federal document or needed a warrant to have you drug tested for whatever gun related reason...you have made it pretty easy for them to do so. Now back to your question,"When can I expect to be able to carry out on the open"...are you asking about yourself from a legal perspective?
So they are okay with drunks walking around with guns, but god forbid someone who uses medical marijuana has one! Makes sense.
Generally there are laws that prohibit the mix of alcohol and carrying but trust me when I say that the community comes down on those that do it.
The "community"? That's too funny. But I guess we'll trust you on that one since there's no real evidence of it.
Great so when can I expect to be able to carry out in open !
What are you talking about? In some states people have been able to carry out in the open for years. Although, judging by your picture, if you consume marijuana you are currently not legally allowed to purchase or own a firearm and cannot legally open carry anywhere.
I figured you gun lovers will want to be able to carry in every state , so they drug test people before you can purchase a gun ?
You can legally carry in pretty much every state if you follow the laws of those states. They do not drug test you before you can purchase a gun, but if you are going to lie on a federal document then that is your prerogative. If you are a holder of a medicinal marijuana card, it would be pretty easy for the Feds to prosecute you if they so chose. I think this has been quite the topic of controversy lately. Everyone can physically purchase or carry firearms anywhere they choose, only law abiding citizens will do so in a legal manner. You have a weed icon as your profile pic, and have made public statements about marijuana consumption...so there is that. If a prosecutor needed to prove you lied on a federal document or needed a warrant to have you drug tested for whatever gun related reason...you have made it pretty easy for them to do so. Now back to your question,"When can I expect to be able to carry out on the open"...are you asking about yourself from a legal perspective?
Yeah your right I'll just go to the black market or gun show and just buy what ever gun I want they'll be lucky if I even give them legit documentation , I can get any fake document I need SSC , Drivers License !
Once again, if you are going to break the law...then that is your personal prerogative. Sounds like you are now conspiring to participate in a felony. Maybe we should create some more laws for you to break! I think that what it boils down to is that the responsibility to not break the law is your own.
Stop it I guess you don't know me I'm totally against guns I've never ever been in a cop car let alone arrested never ever shot a living thing or dead for that matter , I dont believe in guns !
Right on, is it safe to say that you were just trolling then?
Yeah I'm guilty of it , go ahead carry on ...
No harm no foul, sometimes a person's gotta do a little trollin, lol
Carry on belittling those that see a problem for what it is... and keep washing that blood from your hands perpetuating it.
The problem is that many politicians don't know what the fuck they are talking about and should not be trying to create laws based on their ignorance. I will continue mocking them, thanks.
Carry on belittling those that see a problem for what it is... and keep washing that blood from your hands perpetuating it.
The problem is that many politicians don't know what the fuck they are talking about and should not be trying to create laws based on their ignorance. I will continue mocking them, thanks.
The problem is also that many people don't know what the fuck they are talking about as well and stymieing progress with their ignorance.
Carry on belittling those that see a problem for what it is... and keep washing that blood from your hands perpetuating it.
The problem is that many politicians don't know what the fuck they are talking about and should not be trying to create laws based on their ignorance. I will continue mocking them, thanks.
The problem is also that many people don't know what the fuck they are talking about as well and stymieing progress with their ignorance.
Carry on belittling those that see a problem for what it is... and keep washing that blood from your hands perpetuating it.
The problem is that many politicians don't know what the fuck they are talking about and should not be trying to create laws based on their ignorance. I will continue mocking them, thanks.
The problem is also that many people don't know what the fuck they are talking about as well and stymieing progress with their ignorance.
Carry on belittling those that see a problem for what it is... and keep washing that blood from your hands perpetuating it.
The problem is that many politicians don't know what the fuck they are talking about and should not be trying to create laws based on their ignorance. I will continue mocking them, thanks.
The problem is also that many people don't know what the fuck they are talking about as well and stymieing progress with their ignorance.
Amen, brotha!
lol
I think I'd like you.
I'm a pretty cool dude when I'm not anonymously venting on online forums, lol
Every time gun control comes up, I always see the same misconceptions. From my experience as a gun owner and knowing a lot of other gun owners, I would say the following is true for 99% of gun owners: We want gun control. No gun owners want just anyone to go and buy a gun. We are fine with reasonable restrictions. We don't think Obama (or the next democratic president) is going to come in our house and take our guns.
Background checks are good. No one wants a violent criminal owning a gun. But sometimes the process is just stupid. In California a safety test is required every 2 years. Good in theory, but the test is so stupid a well-trained monkey can pass it. With a state fee and a retailer fee to administer it, it is often seen as just a deterrent to purchasing a gun more than implementing safety rules. When purchasing multiple guns in a single order, often multiple background checks are required on the same person. What is the point in that? Again, the fee associated with that is often seen as just another deterrent.
Many of the gun restrictions are pointless. Many (not all) of the restrictions would not prevent a single crime, but are truly based on some politician's uneducated guess on how to make guns safer (or, more likely, harder even for a law-abiding citizen to obtain). Some features of a gun are banned based on their looks, and not their functionality. Just stupid. Limiting the purchases to 1 new gun per month. Maybe sounds reasonable at first, until you realize I can buy 1 gun a month all year, but if I don't buy any guns all year and there's a good black friday special, I cannot buy 2 of them to give to my 2 sons. Or what's even more dumb, I can buy 50 used guns, but only 1 new one, as if the used ones are less deadly? They just don't make sense, or were written with little thought. Most often they are though to be designed to hurt gun manufacture's, so they stop making and selling guns without changing the 2nd amendment. Other gun restrictions are a result of gun manufactures refusal to pay for the right to sell a gun in CA, since no other state requires it. Again, usually seen as a deterrent or money-making opportunity than actually dealing with the gun problem.
No one will come and take our guns. But the most realistic concern related to this, that has already started to take form, are restrictions on ammo that make it so expensive no one will be able to afford it. Restrictions and regulations that prohibit the sale of online ammo and limit the amount of ammo that can be purchased has already been challenged in California. And you may think "who needs 500 rounds?" Just like everything else, ammo is a lot cheaper online and in bulk. A box of 50 rounds may cost $25, while a box of 500 rounds online may be only $100. And if you take 3 or 4 friends shooting for an afternoon, you can go through 500 rounds in 2 hours of target shooting. A push to serialize ammo will increase the cost. I believe California just passed a law restricting re-loading ammo. My dad owns several unique collector guns that if you happen to find ammo it is $2-$3 a round (and it is very difficult to find even at that price). Many people rely on reloading, especially for ammo that is just too ridiculous to buy
Every time gun control comes up, I always see the same misconceptions. From my experience as a gun owner and knowing a lot of other gun owners, I would say the following is true for 99% of gun owners: We want gun control. No gun owners want just anyone to go and buy a gun. We are fine with reasonable restrictions. We don't think Obama (or the next democratic president) is going to come in our house and take our guns.
Background checks are good. No one wants a violent criminal owning a gun. But sometimes the process is just stupid. In California a safety test is required every 2 years. Good in theory, but the test is so stupid a well-trained monkey can pass it. With a state fee and a retailer fee to administer it, it is often seen as just a deterrent to purchasing a gun more than implementing safety rules. When purchasing multiple guns in a single order, often multiple background checks are required on the same person. What is the point in that? Again, the fee associated with that is often seen as just another deterrent.
Many of the gun restrictions are pointless. Many (not all) of the restrictions would not prevent a single crime, but are truly based on some politician's uneducated guess on how to make guns safer (or, more likely, harder even for a law-abiding citizen to obtain). Some features of a gun are banned based on their looks, and not their functionality. Just stupid. Limiting the purchases to 1 new gun per month. Maybe sounds reasonable at first, until you realize I can buy 1 gun a month all year, but if I don't buy any guns all year and there's a good black friday special, I cannot buy 2 of them to give to my 2 sons. Or what's even more dumb, I can buy 50 used guns, but only 1 new one, as if the used ones are less deadly? They just don't make sense, or were written with little thought. Most often they are though to be designed to hurt gun manufacture's, so they stop making and selling guns without changing the 2nd amendment. Other gun restrictions are a result of gun manufactures refusal to pay for the right to sell a gun in CA, since no other state requires it. Again, usually seen as a deterrent or money-making opportunity than actually dealing with the gun problem.
No one will come and take our guns. But the most realistic concern related to this, that has already started to take form, are restrictions on ammo that make it so expensive no one will be able to afford it. Restrictions and regulations that prohibit the sale of online ammo and limit the amount of ammo that can be purchased has already been challenged in California. And you may think "who needs 500 rounds?" Just like everything else, ammo is a lot cheaper online and in bulk. A box of 50 rounds may cost $25, while a box of 500 rounds online may be only $100. And if you take 3 or 4 friends shooting for an afternoon, you can go through 500 rounds in 2 hours of target shooting. A push to serialize ammo will increase the cost. I believe California just passed a law restricting re-loading ammo. My dad owns several unique collector guns that if you happen to find ammo it is $2-$3 a round (and it is very difficult to find even at that price). Many people rely on reloading, especially for ammo that is just too ridiculous to buy
that 99% is nowhere near indicitive of the percentage of folks on this website that believe the democrats are vying for your guns. unless this fanclub is a massively gross exaggeration of that perception, I'd say that figure is quite high.
the rest of what you say I can get down with.
"Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk" -EV 8/14/93
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-EV 8/14/93
we will find a way, we will find our place
-EV 8/14/93
we will find a way, we will find our place
-EV 8/14/93
I think I'd like you.
We want gun control. No gun owners want just anyone to go and buy a gun.
We are fine with reasonable restrictions.
We don't think Obama (or the next democratic president) is going to come in our house and take our guns.
Background checks are good. No one wants a violent criminal owning a gun. But sometimes the process is just stupid. In California a safety test is required every 2 years. Good in theory, but the test is so stupid a well-trained monkey can pass it. With a state fee and a retailer fee to administer it, it is often seen as just a deterrent to purchasing a gun more than implementing safety rules. When purchasing multiple guns in a single order, often multiple background checks are required on the same person. What is the point in that? Again, the fee associated with that is often seen as just another deterrent.
Many of the gun restrictions are pointless. Many (not all) of the restrictions would not prevent a single crime, but are truly based on some politician's uneducated guess on how to make guns safer (or, more likely, harder even for a law-abiding citizen to obtain). Some features of a gun are banned based on their looks, and not their functionality. Just stupid. Limiting the purchases to 1 new gun per month. Maybe sounds reasonable at first, until you realize I can buy 1 gun a month all year, but if I don't buy any guns all year and there's a good black friday special, I cannot buy 2 of them to give to my 2 sons. Or what's even more dumb, I can buy 50 used guns, but only 1 new one, as if the used ones are less deadly? They just don't make sense, or were written with little thought. Most often they are though to be designed to hurt gun manufacture's, so they stop making and selling guns without changing the 2nd amendment. Other gun restrictions are a result of gun manufactures refusal to pay for the right to sell a gun in CA, since no other state requires it. Again, usually seen as a deterrent or money-making opportunity than actually dealing with the gun problem.
No one will come and take our guns. But the most realistic concern related to this, that has already started to take form, are restrictions on ammo that make it so expensive no one will be able to afford it. Restrictions and regulations that prohibit the sale of online ammo and limit the amount of ammo that can be purchased has already been challenged in California. And you may think "who needs 500 rounds?" Just like everything else, ammo is a lot cheaper online and in bulk. A box of 50 rounds may cost $25, while a box of 500 rounds online may be only $100. And if you take 3 or 4 friends shooting for an afternoon, you can go through 500 rounds in 2 hours of target shooting. A push to serialize ammo will increase the cost. I believe California just passed a law restricting re-loading ammo. My dad owns several unique collector guns that if you happen to find ammo it is $2-$3 a round (and it is very difficult to find even at that price). Many people rely on reloading, especially for ammo that is just too ridiculous to buy
the rest of what you say I can get down with.
-EV 8/14/93
Otherwise great post.