America's Gun Violence

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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    tempo_n_groove said:

    Gern Blansten said:

    tempo_n_groove said:

    I tried to find good data for cities with high gun crime but there are cities that have strict gun laws with high murders and lax gun laws with high murders. The info is all over the place.

    right and as mentioned above a city with strict gun laws is lame when you can buy a gun across city lines and bring it back to the city
    You do realize you're breaking the law by bringing that gun over city lines right?

    That's why I find a city with strict gun laws silly. It applies to law abiding citizens. Criminals could care less what the law is.
    my permit says I can legally carry anywhere in florida including buying anywhere in florida and also it is recognized in about 30 other states.

    Godfather.

  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,178
    tempo_n_groove said:

    Gern Blansten said:

    tempo_n_groove said:

    I tried to find good data for cities with high gun crime but there are cities that have strict gun laws with high murders and lax gun laws with high murders. The info is all over the place.

    right and as mentioned above a city with strict gun laws is lame when you can buy a gun across city lines and bring it back to the city
    You do realize you're breaking the law by bringing that gun over city lines right?

    That's why I find a city with strict gun laws silly. It applies to law abiding citizens. Criminals could care less what the law is.
    who is at the city line enforcing that law? give me a break
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  • Kat
    Kat Posts: 4,961
    Came across this news:

    9th Circuit Court of Appeals Says No Right to Concealed Gun Carry
    A divided federal appeals court in California ruled Thursday that there is no constitutional right to carry a concealed handgun, adding to a division among the lower courts on gun rights outside the home.

    MORE: http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/9th-circuit-court-appeals-says-no-right-concealed-gun-carry-n589041

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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Kat said:

    Came across this news:

    9th Circuit Court of Appeals Says No Right to Concealed Gun Carry
    A divided federal appeals court in California ruled Thursday that there is no constitutional right to carry a concealed handgun, adding to a division among the lower courts on gun rights outside the home.

    MORE: http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/9th-circuit-court-appeals-says-no-right-concealed-gun-carry-n589041

    yes.....California sucks, it's a state run by corrupted pansies and I'm so glad I left.
    California is a perfect example of criminals having easier access to guns than responsible citizens .

    Godfather.

  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,359
    Gern Blansten said:

    tempo_n_groove said:

    Gern Blansten said:

    tempo_n_groove said:

    I tried to find good data for cities with high gun crime but there are cities that have strict gun laws with high murders and lax gun laws with high murders. The info is all over the place.

    right and as mentioned above a city with strict gun laws is lame when you can buy a gun across city lines and bring it back to the city
    You do realize you're breaking the law by bringing that gun over city lines right?

    That's why I find a city with strict gun laws silly. It applies to law abiding citizens. Criminals could care less what the law is.
    who is at the city line enforcing that law? give me a break
    Exactly so why have the law?!?
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    A holstered gun is not a deadly weapon... but anything can be used as a deadly weapon. A credit card can be used to cut somebody's throat.

    (New Hampshire State Representative Dan Dumaine (R) opposing a move to ban guns from the chamber floor)


    * These are the accepted counter-arguments to gun control. As stupid as they are... they are all the pro gun crowd has.

    So... don't think of the individuals as stupid. Think, instead, that most... well... not most... but some for sure (like the ones on here for example)... don't have much to work with when discussing this topic.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    Godfather. said:

    Kat said:

    Came across this news:

    9th Circuit Court of Appeals Says No Right to Concealed Gun Carry
    A divided federal appeals court in California ruled Thursday that there is no constitutional right to carry a concealed handgun, adding to a division among the lower courts on gun rights outside the home.

    MORE: http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/9th-circuit-court-appeals-says-no-right-concealed-gun-carry-n589041

    yes.....California sucks, it's a state run by corrupted pansies and I'm so glad I left.
    California is a perfect example of criminals having easier access to guns than responsible citizens .

    Godfather.

    Lol, there is a reason the 9th is the most overturned in the country...
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,178
    Godfather. said:

    Kat said:

    Came across this news:

    9th Circuit Court of Appeals Says No Right to Concealed Gun Carry
    A divided federal appeals court in California ruled Thursday that there is no constitutional right to carry a concealed handgun, adding to a division among the lower courts on gun rights outside the home.

    MORE: http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/9th-circuit-court-appeals-says-no-right-concealed-gun-carry-n589041

    yes.....California sucks, it's a state run by corrupted pansies and I'm so glad I left.
    California is a perfect example of criminals having easier access to guns than responsible citizens .

    Godfather.

    wait...isn't that what you w
    tempo_n_groove said:

    Gern Blansten said:

    tempo_n_groove said:

    Gern Blansten said:

    tempo_n_groove said:

    I tried to find good data for cities with high gun crime but there are cities that have strict gun laws with high murders and lax gun laws with high murders. The info is all over the place.

    right and as mentioned above a city with strict gun laws is lame when you can buy a gun across city lines and bring it back to the city
    You do realize you're breaking the law by bringing that gun over city lines right?

    That's why I find a city with strict gun laws silly. It applies to law abiding citizens. Criminals could care less what the law is.
    who is at the city line enforcing that law? give me a break
    Exactly so why have the law?!?
    huh? people commit rape so why have rape laws? Is that where you are heading?
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    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited June 2016
    Gern Blansten said:

    Godfather. said:

    Kat said:

    Came across this news:

    9th Circuit Court of Appeals Says No Right to Concealed Gun Carry
    A divided federal appeals court in California ruled Thursday that there is no constitutional right to carry a concealed handgun, adding to a division among the lower courts on gun rights outside the home.

    MORE: http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/9th-circuit-court-appeals-says-no-right-concealed-gun-carry-n589041

    yes.....California sucks, it's a state run by corrupted pansies and I'm so glad I left.
    California is a perfect example of criminals having easier access to guns than responsible citizens .

    Godfather.

    wait...isn't that what you w
    tempo_n_groove said:

    Gern Blansten said:

    tempo_n_groove said:

    Gern Blansten said:

    tempo_n_groove said:

    I tried to find good data for cities with high gun crime but there are cities that have strict gun laws with high murders and lax gun laws with high murders. The info is all over the place.

    right and as mentioned above a city with strict gun laws is lame when you can buy a gun across city lines and bring it back to the city
    You do realize you're breaking the law by bringing that gun over city lines right?

    That's why I find a city with strict gun laws silly. It applies to law abiding citizens. Criminals could care less what the law is.
    who is at the city line enforcing that law? give me a break
    Exactly so why have the law?!?
    huh? people commit rape so why have rape laws? Is that where you are heading?
    So maybe we need more rape laws. Maybe if we banned penises there would be no rapes since they are the main thing used. Penis free zones? Penis registration? Sorry, just my lame attempt at humor on a Friday...
    Post edited by PJPOWER on
  • rssesq
    rssesq Fairfield County Posts: 3,299
    Bloomberg can enter penis free zones. lmao
    He only LOOKS like a penis but doesn't have one.
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    rssesq said:

    Bloomberg can enter penis free zones. lmao
    He only LOOKS like a penis but doesn't have one.

    Hahaha! Then we would need another law addressing people that look like scary penises!
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,911
    edited June 2016
    Real Sports on HBO has a great segment this month on the assault rifles available for sale here in the US. i honestly don't know how anyone can defense those being sold here. I get and agree with the argument you can't ban all guns but there is no reason AR-15/AK-47s and the like should be available to the public. they were designed for military usage. for the gun people whats next, hand-grenades and tanks available for public consumption?

    Here is a little portion of the segment.

    http://www.hbo.com/real-sports-with-bryant-gumbel/episodes/0/230-episode/video/ep-230-bonus-clip-modern-sporting-rifle
    Post edited by pjhawks on
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    pjhawks said:

    Real Sports on HBO has a great segment this month on the assault rifles available for sale here in the US. i honestly don't know how anyone can defense those being sold here. I get and agree with the argument you can't ban all guns but there is no reason AR-15/AK-47s and the like should be available to the public. they were designed for military usage. for the gun people whats next, hand-grenades and tanks available for public consumption?

    Here is a little portion of the segment.

    http://www.hbo.com/real-sports-with-bryant-gumbel/episodes/0/230-episode/video/ep-230-bonus-clip-modern-sporting-rifle

    I respectfully disagree. In fact, AR-15s were specifically designed for the public as the non-fully-automatic version of the rifle that is designed for military use :)
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    If you ban assault rifles... then you better be prepared to round the edges of credit cards so nobody can slice your neck with them... because even though assault rifles were designed for urban assaults and killing many in close proximity... you can't convince me that those credit cards were made 'just to buy things with'.

    So there.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Gern Blansten said:

    Godfather. said:

    Kat said:

    Came across this news:

    9th Circuit Court of Appeals Says No Right to Concealed Gun Carry
    A divided federal appeals court in California ruled Thursday that there is no constitutional right to carry a concealed handgun, adding to a division among the lower courts on gun rights outside the home.

    MORE: http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/9th-circuit-court-appeals-says-no-right-concealed-gun-carry-n589041

    yes.....California sucks, it's a state run by corrupted pansies and I'm so glad I left.
    California is a perfect example of criminals having easier access to guns than responsible citizens .

    Godfather.

    wait...isn't that what you w
    tempo_n_groove said:

    Gern Blansten said:

    tempo_n_groove said:

    Gern Blansten said:

    tempo_n_groove said:

    I tried to find good data for cities with high gun crime but there are cities that have strict gun laws with high murders and lax gun laws with high murders. The info is all over the place.

    right and as mentioned above a city with strict gun laws is lame when you can buy a gun across city lines and bring it back to the city
    You do realize you're breaking the law by bringing that gun over city lines right?

    That's why I find a city with strict gun laws silly. It applies to law abiding citizens. Criminals could care less what the law is.
    who is at the city line enforcing that law? give me a break
    Exactly so why have the law?!?
    huh? people commit rape so why have rape laws? Is that where you are heading?
    there is no constitutional amendment for rape......this is the gun thread right ?

    Godfather.

  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited June 2016
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    If you ban assault rifles... then you better be prepared to round the edges of credit cards so nobody can slice your neck with them... because even though assault rifles were designed for urban assaults and killing many in close proximity... you can't convince me that those credit cards were made 'just to buy things with'.

    So there.

    Not to mention axes and bows since they were the original assault weapons. Just thinking...if you banned fire, none of these things would work. Yeah, let's ban fire and metal. Yeah, metal too since that's what guns and bullets are made out of. And let's ban 3D printers since anyone with a 3D printer can make gun parts. Oh, and pipes since someone can make a gun out of a pipe.
    Post edited by PJPOWER on
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    why would it matter to you what gun I own ? would you outlaw high performance cars as well ?
    the problem is not the guns the problem is people.....people kill and you know the rest.

    Godfather.
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    Godfather. said:

    why would it matter to you what gun I own ? would you outlaw high performance cars as well ?
    the problem is not the guns the problem is people.....people kill and you know the rest.

    Godfather.

    No need to outlaw high performance cars. Everyone who drives them is too old to drive them the way they were meant to be driven anyways!
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,411
    Godfather. said:

    why would it matter to you what gun I own ? would you outlaw high performance cars as well ?
    the problem is not the guns the problem is people.....people kill and you know the rest.

    Godfather.

    Exactly

    Guns don't kill people

    Gun owners kill people
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,668
    Bentleyspop said:

    Godfather. said:

    why would it matter to you what gun I own ? would you outlaw high performance cars as well ?
    the problem is not the guns the problem is people.....people kill and you know the rest.

    Godfather.

    Exactly

    Guns don't kill people

    Gun owners kill people
    And little kids too!
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