America's Gun Violence

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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,694
    edited January 2016
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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    dudeman said:

    You clearly haven't researched what responsible people are using to secure their firearms. Biometric locks are quite common on gun safes these days.

    One would also be an idiot if they left their RFID gun safe key lying about where kids could find it.

    Do you have one? I know dozens of folks with guns and none of them have or even want (to my knowledge) one.
    Unless you have it secured a child can get into it, kids get into everything possible. If it is secured it is useless.
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  • Stickman12
    Stickman12 Posts: 504
    dudeman said:

    You clearly haven't researched what responsible people are using to secure their firearms. Biometric locks are quite common on gun safes these days.

    One would also be an idiot if they left their RFID gun safe key lying about where kids could find it.

    I have a 16 gun safe where most of my guns stay and a biometric safe in the bedroom for easy access if needed. I know quite a few people who have them and love them for their ease of use and convenience. Not trying to argue or be controversial just adding my input. Have no experience with the rfid safes
  • dudeman
    dudeman Posts: 3,161
    I have biometric and RFID safes and the guys I shoot with that have kids in the house do too.

    For me, it's a necessary purchase just like electrical outlet covers, child safety gates and door knob locks.
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  • Stickman12
    Stickman12 Posts: 504
    dudeman said:

    I have biometric and RFID safes and the guys I shoot with that have kids in the house do too.

    For me, it's a necessary purchase just like electrical outlet covers, child safety gates and door knob locks.

    These safes are great even if you don't use them for guns. With the ease of use, it is convenient to put documents, jewelry or any other valuables that will fit.
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,471
    dudeman said:

    I have biometric and RFID safes and the guys I shoot with that have kids in the house do too.

    For me, it's a necessary purchase just like electrical outlet covers, child safety gates and door knob locks.

    I was always taught to "NOT TOUCH THEM EVER!!!" and I didn't.
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    tempo_n_groove said:

    dudeman said:

    I have biometric and RFID safes and the guys I shoot with that have kids in the house do too.

    For me, it's a necessary purchase just like electrical outlet covers, child safety gates and door knob locks.

    I was always taught to "NOT TOUCH THEM EVER!!!" and I didn't.
    Right. And every year hundreds of thousands of kids are taught the same thing, and given the opportunity most do touch them, and a not insignificant number shoot themselves or someone else.
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  • dudeman
    dudeman Posts: 3,161
    tempo_n_groove said:

    dudeman said:

    I have biometric and RFID safes and the guys I shoot with that have kids in the house do too.

    For me, it's a necessary purchase just like electrical outlet covers, child safety gates and door knob locks.

    I was always taught to "NOT TOUCH THEM EVER!!!" and I didn't.
    I was taught the same thing but my parents were smart enough to make sure that there were never guns just lying around.

    Safe gun storage practice is a serious thing and in my house, it involves education, attentiveness and using the right equipment.
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  • dudeman
    dudeman Posts: 3,161
    oftenreading said:

    tempo_n_groove said:

    dudeman said:

    I have biometric and RFID safes and the guys I shoot with that have kids in the house do too.

    For me, it's a necessary purchase just like electrical outlet covers, child safety gates and door knob locks.

    I was always taught to "NOT TOUCH THEM EVER!!!" and I didn't.
    Right. And every year hundreds of thousands of kids are taught the same thing, and given the opportunity most do touch them, and a not insignificant number shoot themselves or someone else.
    This is a problem for sure. People who leave guns where kids can find them should be investigated, arrested and tried in court.
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  • dudeman
    dudeman Posts: 3,161
    Are Obama's executive actions going to drive the gun violence numbers down?
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,471
    dudeman said:

    oftenreading said:

    tempo_n_groove said:

    dudeman said:

    I have biometric and RFID safes and the guys I shoot with that have kids in the house do too.

    For me, it's a necessary purchase just like electrical outlet covers, child safety gates and door knob locks.

    I was always taught to "NOT TOUCH THEM EVER!!!" and I didn't.
    Right. And every year hundreds of thousands of kids are taught the same thing, and given the opportunity most do touch them, and a not insignificant number shoot themselves or someone else.
    This is a problem for sure. People who leave guns where kids can find them should be investigated, arrested and tried in court.
    I thought that this was a law?
  • usamamasan1
    usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    it is
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    Hopefully posting this link won't lead to yet another ration of Obama bashing:

    http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jan/05/obama-gun-control-executive-action-background-checks-licenses-gun-shows-mental-health-funding
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  • ldent42
    ldent42 NYC Posts: 7,859
    dudeman said:

    Are Obama's executive actions going to drive the gun violence numbers down?

    One can only hope. If Jeb wins he will crtl Z that shit right away, so likely not.
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,530
    Guess he needed a good guy wih a gun present......

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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,530
    edited January 2016
    dudeman said:

    Are Obama's executive actions going to drive the gun violence numbers down?

    Well I think the theory is , since he is closing or narrowing one area that some criminals were buying guns from , yes. In a way it brings this regulatory rule already in place closer to the 21st century with the proliferation of internet sales.

    May even help prevent some of the suicides too.
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  • dudeman
    dudeman Posts: 3,161
    edited January 2016
    I certainly hope that the new executive actions have a positive effect but I am skeptical. Those people turned away from licensed dealers because they failed a background check will just turn to the black market or steal them. Same as it ever was.

    A drop in the annual number of suicides would be great, though.
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  • ldent42
    ldent42 NYC Posts: 7,859
    do you need to pass a test to get a gun? Like the way you would have to pass the driving test to drive and submit an eye exam. Or like how you have to have x number of hours before you can get a pilot's license?
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  • dudeman
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    Do you mean a proficiency exam?
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  • ldent42
    ldent42 NYC Posts: 7,859
    dudeman said:

    Do you mean a proficiency exam?

    Sure.
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