Bowe Bergdahl

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hedonist said:

Brody! I'll admit my head did go there - goddamn I love that show - and need to figure out how I'll see next season since we cancelled our premium cable channels awhile back.

Just so much unknown or revealed at this point; certainly raises questions that I hope will be answered.

I use Apple TV for that reason. $30 for the season is cheaper than the channel.

Dirtie_Frank

http://news.yahoo.com/bowe-bergdahl-charged-with-desertion--lawyer-says-182143787.html

Looks like the trade was not as good of an idea. I hope he rots.

rgambs

Dirtie_Frank said:

http://news.yahoo.com/bowe-bergdahl-charged-with-desertion--lawyer-says-182143787.html

Looks like the trade was not as good of an idea. I hope he rots.

You hope he rots?
Are you a member of the Armed Forces?

Dirtie_Frank

I was

rgambs

I suppose you are entitled to that opinion, but I just can't wrap my head around that mentality.

Dirtie_Frank

He left his post, his team. People died looking for this POS that left on his own free will. We should have left him with the Taliban. He should also be held accountable for the deaths of the personnel that died looking for him, but he will probably get a pass.

primussucks

He faces life in prison. He can rot there! Personally I think that is way too good for him!
Obama will give him a pass for those deaths. Actually he already has by doing that idiotic trade for him!! What a slap in the face to those families!!!!

mickeyrat

Still the right thing to bring him back. Even better that he will stand for and to the charges. Kinda what he "fought " for ain't it?

Dirtie_Frank

You know Mickey you are right. Maybe my problem is with the bullshit pomp and circumstance that happened with the POTUS in the rose garden. It makes me wonder if they told Obama and he didn't listen or none had the balls to tell him. Fine bring him home, but to hail him as a hero, maybe there should have been more thought put into it. Yes there was nothing finalized, but even with a chance maybe you don't have mom and dad over to the White House.

gimmesometruth27

the guy was a prisoner of war for 5 years. pretty fucking heroic to me.

hedonist

But...just leaving then, with lives lost because of that action? Lives lost to try and save him?

Not so heroic.

I know many here aren't fans of McCain (not sure I am either), but he too was a POW and has been shit upon for actions separate from that.

Goose, meet gander.

gimmesometruth27

hedonist said:

But...just leaving then, with lives lost because of that action? Lives lost to try and save him?

Not so heroic.

I know many here aren't fans of McCain (not sure I am either), but he too was a POW and has been shit upon for actions separate from that.

Goose, meet gander.

so you would rather him still be a pow?

i don't care if lives were lost. you don't leave a soldier behind. period.

hedonist

gimmesometruth27 said:

hedonist said:

But...just leaving then, with lives lost because of that action? Lives lost to try and save him?

Not so heroic.

I know many here aren't fans of McCain (not sure I am either), but he too was a POW and has been shit upon for actions separate from that.

Goose, meet gander.

so you would rather him still be a pow?

i don't care if lives were lost. you don't leave a soldier behind. period.

Pretty sure I didn't say that I'd rather he be tortured.

C'mon man.

And really, you don't care about the people who died because of the actions he chose?

I'd say "I hope I'm missing something here" but feel some weird bizarro world door would be opened.

Sorry, I'm just not getting it.

Dirtie_Frank

Like I said we paid a high price for someone who left their post willfully. Should he have stayed? No. Should we have given up those 5 for him? No, that is my opinion? Should Mr. Obama have had the press conference with his parents in the rose garden? No way. Whoever the POTUSs advisers that either told him this was a good idea or did not tell him the back story need to resign. That goes to CJCS or the National Security Adviser.

dignin

http://www.wired.com/2015/12/serial-season-2-takes-a-fresh-look-at-a-familiar-tale/

SERIAL‘S SEASON 2 TAKES A FRESH LOOK AT A FAMILIAR TALE

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mickeyrat

Welp, looks like command decided a courts martial was in order. Bergdahl faces life in prison on the second charge.

http://www.armytimes.com/story/military/2015/12/14/sgt-bowe-bergdahl-face-court-martial-desertion-charge/77300686/

Dirtie_Frank

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/16/politics/bowe-bergdahl-guilty-plea/index.html

dignin

Glad he didn't get any more time. 5 years of Taliban torture was enough.

Bowe Bergdahl spared prison time for US Army desertion

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41860828?ocid=socialflow_facebook&ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbcnews&ns_source=facebook


Turns out tweets matter.

Trump has repeatedly called Bergdahl "a traitor" and criticised the Obama-era prisoner exchange with the Taliban that led to the American soldier's release.

The judge, Army Col Jeffery R Nance, considered the president's attacks as a mitigating factor in sentencing Bergdahl, whose lawyers argued he could not receive a fair trial because of the comments.

oftenreading

dignin said:

Glad he didn't get any more time. 5 years of Taliban torture was enough.

Bowe Bergdahl spared prison time for US Army desertion

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41860828?ocid=socialflow_facebook&ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbcnews&ns_source=facebook


Turns out tweets matter.

Trump has repeatedly called Bergdahl "a traitor" and criticised the Obama-era prisoner exchange with the Taliban that led to the American soldier's release.

The judge, Army Col Jeffery R Nance, considered the president's attacks as a mitigating factor in sentencing Bergdahl, whose lawyers argued he could not receive a fair trial because of the comments.

I enjoy seeing all these instances of Trump's tweets working against him in the legal arena. Let's hope there are many more instances of this, as he faces his own legal troubles 
 

gimmesometruth27

dignin said:

Glad he didn't get any more time. 5 years of Taliban torture was enough.

Bowe Bergdahl spared prison time for US Army desertion

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41860828?ocid=socialflow_facebook&ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbcnews&ns_source=facebook


Turns out tweets matter.

Trump has repeatedly called Bergdahl "a traitor" and criticised the Obama-era prisoner exchange with the Taliban that led to the American soldier's release.

The judge, Army Col Jeffery R Nance, considered the president's attacks as a mitigating factor in sentencing Bergdahl, whose lawyers argued he could not receive a fair trial because of the comments.

trump just can't help himself. he gets in his own way. serves him right for trying to influence the sentence from his phone. 

hope this happens in other cases that tremp has felt the need to comment on so brazenly.