California mayor says bullied kids need to grow a pair.

Halifax2TheMax

Should have seen the stuff I grew up playing on, in and around. Superfund site anyone?

Peace.

Jason P

Halifax2TheMax said:

Should have seen the stuff I grew up playing on, in and around. Superfund site anyone?

Peace.

Did you have this thing? A metal pole with chains attached to a swivel. Add ten kids until they gain enough steam until they levitate and eventually go flying through the air. Once saw a classmate go flying over some hedge bush and break his arm. Good times.

Halifax2TheMax

No, we didn't have that thing but we had a merry go round that if you didn't sit or stand in the middle, you'd get thrown off of it no matter how tightly you held on. The thing was set in hard packed dirt with tree roots coming out so when you landed it was like asphalt with the added dimension of knarly, smooth tree roots. Definitely blood being borne. And it rocked so if your leg got thrown underneath when you went flying off the thing, you'd get a nice smoosh from the whirling wood base. I learned to avoid it when the big kids were there. Still fun times!

Peace.

PJ_Soul

Jason P said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Should have seen the stuff I grew up playing on, in and around. Superfund site anyone?

Peace.

Did you have this thing? A metal pole with chains attached to a swivel. Add ten kids until they gain enough steam until they levitate and eventually go flying through the air. Once saw a classmate go flying over some hedge bush and break his arm. Good times.

Lol. My elementary school had one of those. Tons of dangerous fun. Another really popular game was "bump". We'd get on those massive wooden teeter-totters and the whole point was to bump the kid at the other end of it off so he'd go flying. Kids would circle around and encourage the players to really put their back in it because the higher the kid flew and the more disasterous the landing the better the game was. Lol. Kids got hurt all the time on the playground back then, but they and their parents were indeed way tougher. Everyone understood that it was a part of a life worth living. Now? Well.... no comment.

My dad got his leg caught under a merry-go-round when he was a kid in the 1940s. It was badly broken and he has a huge nasty scar about 10 inches long on his thigh. When be had the cast up to his hip he'd crawl up on the same merry-go-round while his friends did the pushing.
I also remember how a lot of playgrounds had zip lines. Those were fantastic.

mattsl1983

Halifax, don't feel like taking up half a page quoting,

First, I will admit that one of my points was a bit confusing, I had a little too much red wine at dinner and thoughts get a bit lost.

With you using the dictionary.com meaning of the word bullying, the example I asked about if your kid got made fun of because he had cheap shoes on; that would be counted as bullying. But to that example you said it wasn't bullying. Hence why I asked you to define it in your own words.

Conservatism or "they are coming for our guns" has nothing to do with this issue. And to lump them together you are completely missing the issue we are talking about here. You can not deny the push in today's society for political correctness and if anyone gets their feelings hurt, there is a price to pay. That's why I refer to it as the pussification of our country.

And you are saying adults are better equipped to deal with bullying? Do you think maybe it's because we have witnessed it/or participated in it in our youth? Or do we just become adults and know how to deal with things all of a sudden?

So my point is, yes wolf gets cried more times than not when it comes to bullying. Are there real bullies out there and situations that need to be addressed, yes. Is it the governments responsibility to spend tax dollars when the family and schools are more than apt to handle the situation, because they are there, present, and know the situation? No. Leave the government out of it. Let the parents decide. That is if you are an active parent and pay attention and know your kids.

Halifax2TheMax

Halifax, don't feel like taking up half a page quoting,

First, I will admit that one of my points was a bit confusing, I had a little too much red wine at dinner and thoughts get a bit lost.

With you using the dictionary.com meaning of the word bullying, the example I asked about if your kid got made fun of because he had cheap shoes on; that would be counted as bullying. But to that example you said it wasn't bullying. Hence why I asked you to define it in your own words.

When I was a kid they were called “skippies” and it was Sneaker King and Chuck Taylors versus Stride Right and Nikes or Tough Skin jeans versus Levis. Making fun of someone’s shoes or calling them skippies is not akin to bullying. Again, read the definition, “…an overbearing person who habitually badgers and intimidates……..”

Conservatism or "they are coming for our guns" has nothing to do with this issue. And to lump them together you are completely missing the issue we are talking about here. You can not deny the push in today's society for political correctness and if anyone gets their feelings hurt, there is a price to pay. That's why I refer to it as the pussification of our country.

The conservative faux outrage machine, which is the context that I lumped this issue in with, as you presented it, does have something to do with it. Death panels, Obama coming for your guns, the war on Christmas and now the “pussification” of our country because people have their feelings hurt? I can deny that there is a “push” in today’s society for political correctness as it relates to this topic because I do not see a ground swell of proposed legislation or of people taking to the streets demanding an end to “feelings being hurt.” You posted a link to a story about one small town in California where some middle school kids thought it would be a good idea to have safe havens from bullying in public buildings and tried to equate the mayor’s subsequent statement of opposition and the need for folks to “grow a pair” into the “pussification” of our country. I respectively disagree with your characterization and point of view as I don’t believe “there is a price to pay if anyone gets their feelings hurt.”

And you are saying adults are better equipped to deal with bullying?

Yes.

Do you think maybe it's because we have witnessed it/or participated in it in our youth?

Could be. But it also could be other factors like maturity, education, better understanding of the world around us and what makes people do the stupid shit they do. Are you saying that if you’ve never been bullied as a child, you wouldn’t know how to cope with it as an adult?

Or do we just become adults and know how to deal with things all of a sudden?

No, through the process of becoming an adult we learn lots of things, like how to deal with bullies.

So my point is, yes wolf gets cried more times than not when it comes to bullying. Are there real bullies out there and situations that need to be addressed, yes. Is it the governments responsibility to spend tax dollars when the family and schools are more than apt to handle the situation, because they are there, present, and know the situation? No. Leave the government out of it. Let the parents decide. That is if you are an active parent and pay attention and know your kids.

Again, one small town in California does not a “government” make. And even if they did create these “bully safe havens” through the democratic process, so what? The middle school kids had an issue they felt strongly about, they approached their elected representatives, lobbied and saw an ordinance get passed by the city council. Isn’t that how democracy is supposed to work? And if you’re a kid without active parents or with parents who don’t know you (it is not like there are no neglected children in these great United States, now is there?), who is supposed to look out for you? I wish people would be this vociferous in opposition to, oh I don’t know, the fracking fluid used in North Carolina where the legislature passed a law making it against the law to disclose the chemicals that go into the fracking fluid yet all the industry folks and legislators deem the fluid safe, to give one such example. Continue to be distracted by the faux outrage machine. Me, I’m not buying it.

Peace.

mattsl1983

So are you saying if a kid persistently was being made fun of because of their shoes, it's still not bullying? That would fit into your definition.

Again, you keep bring up points that has nothing to do with the issue.

Does that one small town not have a local government, which in part plays a role in the state government, which then plays a role in the federal government? I didn't know we don't consider a small town to have no government. Yes they took the correct democratic steps in bring up their issue and idea. They just didn't get the response they wanted. Happens all the time in politics.

If you haven't noticed the push for political correctness and the trials by media, then I would really like to know what news sources you use. What's the faux distraction machine? I can only assume it's other media that you dismiss because you disagree with it?

I'm not saying that if you've never been bullied you don't know how to cope, but like you I can't say it helps or doesn't help. But like a lot of things, if you've experienced something or seen something before, you are more likely apt to hand

I suppose we agree to disagree.

Halifax2TheMax

yup

peace.

josevolution

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