Cliven Bundy
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There are rednecks and then there are rednecks. Ed Abbey knew the difference.
If you have the time, fix a drink or a smoke or whatever, sit back and give this a go. Worth a listen if you have the time:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTGKzS2Ntc4
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CM189191 said:unsung said:Nice virtue signal."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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unsung said:Nice virtue signal.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Halifax2TheMax said:unsung said:Halifax2TheMax said:unsung said:Great news!
Do we need to talk about the deficit under Reagan & W???? or maybe discuss the surplus achieved under Clinton only to be blown up by the W administration?
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unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487Pre Obama the debt was at $9T. That is Presidents 1-43 (iirc) combined.
When Obama left office it was $20T.
You really don't want to debate this though with me unless you are ready to accept that spending cuts need to happen. Otherwise it is a non-starter.0 -
unsung said:Pre Obama the debt was at $9T. That is Presidents 1-43 (iirc) combined.
When Obama left office it was $20T.
You really don't want to debate this though with me unless you are ready to accept that spending cuts need to happen. Otherwise it is a non-starter.
You really don't want to debate unless you are ready to accept that tax increases need to happen.
Obama's debt contribution was $983 billion.
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unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487Case DISMISSED! ALL charges dropped!
Prosecution withheld evidence favorable to the defense, admitted the Bundy's were never a threat. Judge Navarro said that prosecution performed "flagrant prosecutorial misconduct."
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unsung said:Pre Obama the debt was at $9T. That is Presidents 1-43 (iirc) combined.
When Obama left office it was $20T.
You really don't want to debate this though with me unless you are ready to accept that spending cuts need to happen. Otherwise it is a non-starter.
Fault Obama for not raising taxes to help offset it maybe. The spending came from your GOPRemember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
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gimmesometruth27 said:Halifax2TheMax said:unsung said:Halifax2TheMax said:unsung said:Great news!
our party is not talking down entire classes of people and spiking the football when we pass a vote that 25% of americans favor.
fuck the gop. all of them.2000 - 8/21 - Columbus, OH
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Halifax2TheMax said:Bump, white looting continues to this day.0
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nicknyr15 said:Halifax2TheMax said:Bump, white looting continues to this day.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Halifax2TheMax said:nicknyr15 said:Halifax2TheMax said:Bump, white looting continues to this day.0
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nicknyr15 said:Halifax2TheMax said:nicknyr15 said:Halifax2TheMax said:Bump, white looting continues to this day.
Believe it or not, race plays a huge roll in where we are today, particularly when the riot in Ferguson in 2014 because of Michael Brown’s death, the riot in Baltimore in 2015 because of Freddie Gray’s death and all the police killings of Blacks, in between and since, right up to George Floyd’s death. And nothings changed except the number and duration of the protests/riots. So yea, race still matters, every fucking day.
A hissy fit? You mean like complaining? C’mon maaaaaaaan, as Sleepy Woke Joe would say.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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The Bundy crew should be in jail, but evidently the federal prosecutors screwed things up:
https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2020/08/appeals-court-upholds-dismissal-of-nv-indictment-against-cliven-bundy-his-two-sons-and-ryan-payne.html
My family has paid to graze cattle on federal land for years, so yes, it does piss me off that they feel they can do it for free.
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PJPOWER said:The Bundy crew should be in jail, but evidently the federal prosecutors screwed things up:
https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2020/08/appeals-court-upholds-dismissal-of-nv-indictment-against-cliven-bundy-his-two-sons-and-ryan-payne.html
My family has paid to graze cattle on federal land for years, so yes, it does piss me off that they feel they can do it for free.0 -
Bentleyspop said:PJPOWER said:The Bundy crew should be in jail, but evidently the federal prosecutors screwed things up:
https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2020/08/appeals-court-upholds-dismissal-of-nv-indictment-against-cliven-bundy-his-two-sons-and-ryan-payne.html
My family has paid to graze cattle on federal land for years, so yes, it does piss me off that they feel they can do it for free.0 -
PJPOWER said:Bentleyspop said:PJPOWER said:The Bundy crew should be in jail, but evidently the federal prosecutors screwed things up:
https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2020/08/appeals-court-upholds-dismissal-of-nv-indictment-against-cliven-bundy-his-two-sons-and-ryan-payne.html
My family has paid to graze cattle on federal land for years, so yes, it does piss me off that they feel they can do it for free.
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did anybody see the video that ammon bundy tweeted last week? he came out in favor of BLM and against the police overreach against the unarmed protesters. you could literally watch conservative heads explode in the comments. i will try to find it."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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i can't find the actual video i saw. i know it was on a twitter page associated with him. here is an article about his stance.
https://news.yahoo.com/ammon-bundy-comes-support-blm-135517142.html
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crazy ammon is at it again. freedumb.
Idaho high school football game called at halftime after activist refuses to wear mask
https://news.yahoo.com/idaho-high-school-football-game-184821564.htmlA high school football game in Idaho was stopped at halftime when anti-government activist Ammon Bundy refused to wear a mask or leave campus, officials said Monday.
Bundy wanted to watch his son, a linebacker for the visiting Emmett High School Huskies, in their game against the host Caldwell Cougars on Friday.
The dad was turned away at the gate for refusing to adhere to Caldwell’s coronavirus masking policy, Bundy and school officials both said.
Bundy, best known for a 2016 standoff with his father, Cliven Bundy, at an Oregon wildlife refuge, then tried to watch the game from a parking lot - on campus grounds, but outside the stadium - and was asked to leave again by hosts. When he didn’t, Caldwell administrators called the game at halftime, with Emmett ahead, 35-0.
Emmett High School does not have a policy asking fans to wear masks, so Bundy was free to go mask-less at Huskies' home games. But if Emmett plays at a school with such safety protocols in the future, Bundy told NBC News on Monday, he’ll act just as he did on Friday.
“I have a strong belief in my right to choose to wear a mask or not," Bundy said. "And If they think somehow there's a safety issue, then they need to section off a part of the bleachers to accommodate for those of us who believe differently than others.”
The CDC has recommended that all Americans wear masks in public during the pandemic, though it's a local district-by-district decision for high school activities in Idaho.
it wasn't immediately clear over the weekend which team would be declared the winner because the game wasn't completed.
But by Tuesday, the two schools decided that Emmett should have the win, said Ty Jones, executive director of the Idaho High School Activities Association which governs prep sports in the Gem State.
Both sides apparently agreed that Emmett's five-touchdown lead shouldn't be wiped out by the brouhaha over Bundy.
"That would be my thought (that a 35-point lead should stand) but I wasn’t given a reason, just a final score," Jones said.
Emmett Independent School District Superintendent Craig Woods had appeared to brace his side for a possible forfeit.
"This is incredibly sad for the Emmett High School football team, high school and community. They were winning the game," Woods said in a statement over the weekend.
"They've been having a great season, and they've worked hard. We were the visitors. We should respect the host’s policies and procedures. Whether you agree or not when it comes to masks, the football team should not have to suffer the consequences. I'm proud of the Huskies. They did not ask for this."
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