Pearl Jam limited edition chrome Pono Player

demetrios · April 2015

It really sucks that still many 24 Bit Albums sold @ the Pono Store are exclusive to USA & not available in Canada for purchasing. But, albums sold over @ HDTracks are available in Canada.

I wanna purchase the new Death Cab For Cutie Kintsugi album.

Pono Store .. https://ponomusic.force.com/ccrz__CCPage?pageKey=product&oId=of:baea68f507984c7fa13d201b893a7d28&type=Album . NOT IN TERRITORY

HDTracks .. http://www.hdtracks.com/kintsugi AVAILABLE

It's really hard to support Pono when their music service is not letting me purchase much music from their company.

demetrios · June 2015

Pono Player is now available for sale on Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00WBS32K4/ref=s9_psimh_gw_p422_d0_i1?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=desktop-1&pf_rd_r=1T3P6YECGHS4B80D4ZCF&pf_rd_t=36701&pf_rd_p=2079475242&pf_rd_i=desktop

cp3iverson · June 2015

Forgot pono existed until this bump lol

Stampy1 · June 2015

"The only difference between 16bit and 24bit is 48dB of dynamic range (8bits x 6dB = 48dB) and nothing else. This is not a question for interpretation or opinion, it is the provable, undisputed logical mathematics which underpins the very existence of digital audio.

So, can you actually hear any benefits of the larger (48dB) dynamic range offered by 24bit? Unfortunately, no you can't. The entire dynamic range of some types of music is sometimes less than 12dB."

http://www.head-fi.org/t/415361/24bit-vs-16bit-the-myth-exploded

demetrios · August 2015

Do you get emails from Pono Music? Reminder - Action Required: PonoMusic World Update Version 20.0.133. Download their latest software? Well .. Don't do it!!

Windows 10 & Norton were acting crazy with this new updated. It wanted me to open ports to an IP address I don't know of theirs to get access to my PC. Hell no.

on2legs · August 2015

demetrios said:
Do you get emails from Pono Music? Reminder - Action Required: PonoMusic World Update Version 20.0.133. Download their latest software? Well .. Don't do it!!

Windows 10 & Norton were acting crazy with this new updated. It wanted me to open ports to an IP address I don't know of theirs to get access to my PC. Hell no.

That's crazy. I think it's hard enough to get people to embrace the technology without adding in their failure to keep the thing running right.

JB128716 · August 2015

I bought one and haven't used it since the first week.

Sigh....

demetrios · August 2015

on2legs said:

demetrios said:
Do you get emails from Pono Music? Reminder - Action Required: PonoMusic World Update Version 20.0.133. Download their latest software? Well .. Don't do it!!

Windows 10 & Norton were acting crazy with this new updated. It wanted me to open ports to an IP address I don't know of theirs to get access to my PC. Hell no.

That's crazy. I think it's hard enough to get people to embrace the technology without adding in their failure to keep the thing running right.

I hardly use the PonoMusic World software anyway. I add my 24Bit Flacs just by copying & pasting the albums via USB 3.0. The software kept things organized. But this new update, I just deleted it completely.

PJ_Soul · August 2015

JB128716 said:
I bought one and haven't used it since the first week.

Sigh....

Why not? I can't imagine that is the Pono's fault, lol.

JB128716 · August 2015

PJ_Soul said:

JB128716 said:
I bought one and haven't used it since the first week.

Sigh....
Why not? I can't imagine that is the Pono's fault, lol.

Not Pono's fault. I originally bought it to play in my car. Then I bought a new car that can play music off of USB sticks.

So I bought a 256 GB stick and never used my Pono.

And let's face it, if you take a flac file and compress it to a 320 MP3 and hit shuffle, how many people really could tell the difference.

I'm guessing not many.

on2legs · August 2015

demetrios said:

on2legs said:

demetrios said:
Do you get emails from Pono Music? Reminder - Action Required: PonoMusic World Update Version 20.0.133. Download their latest software? Well .. Don't do it!!

Windows 10 & Norton were acting crazy with this new updated. It wanted me to open ports to an IP address I don't know of theirs to get access to my PC. Hell no.

That's crazy. I think it's hard enough to get people to embrace the technology without adding in their failure to keep the thing running right.
I hardly use the PonoMusic World software anyway. I add my 24Bit Flacs just by copying & pasting the albums via USB 3.0. The software kept things organized. But this new update, I just deleted it completely.

Sounds a tad too high maintenance for $400 music player. Can't see this thing lasting.

WhatYouTaughtMe · August 2015

JB128716 said:

PJ_Soul said:

JB128716 said:
I bought one and haven't used it since the first week.

Sigh....
Why not? I can't imagine that is the Pono's fault, lol.
Not Pono's fault. I originally bought it to play in my car. Then I bought a new car that can play music off of USB sticks.

So I bought a 256 GB stick and never used my Pono.

And let's face it, if you take a flac file and compress it to a 320 MP3 and hit shuffle, how many people really could tell the difference.

I'm guessing not many.

You are right. The biggest advantage of FLAC vs MP3 is maintaining a backup of a music file that is true to the original source. A well encoded first generation mp3 at 320 is impossible to tell apart from a flac file for most people.

2-feign-reluctance · August 2015

So glad I didn't buy one.

cutz · August 2015

demetrios said:
Do you get emails from Pono Music? Reminder - Action Required: PonoMusic World Update Version 20.0.133. Download their latest software? Well .. Don't do it!!

Windows 10 & Norton were acting crazy with this new updated. It wanted me to open ports to an IP address I don't know of theirs to get access to my PC. Hell no.

Too late for me as i updated.

But, it didn't want me to open any ports to an IP address. Unless i missed it? Maybe i fucked up and did something right>LOL!!

my2hands · August 2015

Neil should have learned from his "Trans" album from the 80's to leave the digital age alone lol

KV4053 · August 2015

I didnt have any issues installing the update. Weird. I still love my Pono. Just bought a 128gb card for it. The new Revealer function illustrates the differences between tracks. I had my daughter change the tracks between mp3 and 24/192 and I could tell which was which. I had a harder time with the in-the-middle types

2-feign-reluctance · August 2015

KV4053 said:
I didnt have any issues installing the update. Weird. I still love my Pono. Just bought a 128gb card for it. The new Revealer function illustrates the differences between tracks. I had my daughter change the tracks between mp3 and 24/192 and I could tell which was which. I had a harder time with the in-the-middle types

Awesome!

demetrios · August 2015

cutz said:

demetrios said:
Do you get emails from Pono Music? Reminder - Action Required: PonoMusic World Update Version 20.0.133. Download their latest software? Well .. Don't do it!!

Windows 10 & Norton were acting crazy with this new updated. It wanted me to open ports to an IP address I don't know of theirs to get access to my PC. Hell no.

Too late for me as i updated.

But, it didn't want me to open any ports to an IP address. Unless i missed it? Maybe i fucked up and did something right>LOL!!

A Norton window kept popping up. Asking me to let this IP address from Pono to access my PC. I kept saying no, but the window kept coming back.

First I thought hmm .. think Pono has added a new option to the new PonoMusic World App where my PC can be used as a connection hub for others to download from me the files I've purchased from the Pono Store. Like a torrent. So if my PC / Pono Music app is on where my audio files are saved on the hard drive, folks who purchase from Pono Music could use my PC's bandwidth when downloading. So you're not just using the Pono Music Store bandwidth to download those 3 plus gigs files from, but also using my internet connection & many others. Only those who have purchased the files from the Pono Store. That's what I thought at first. I might be wrong. But still it was very weird. I've been using Norton since '99 and I've never had this problem installing an update, for a music software.

Jason P · September 2015

A picture of Neal Young when discovering the opus of PONO ...

Jason P · September 2015

Also, PONO shit is expensive as hell. $18 for pearl jams VS. album???

Reminds me of the days of getting fucked over at Sam Goody's when having to decide over which Guns and Roses "Use Your Illusion" album I was going to buy because they were selling them for $18 fucking dollars each. I can go on Amazon and get a high quality CD version of both Use Your Illusion albums for less then two dollars right now.

PJ_Soul · September 2015

Jason P said:
Also, PONO shit is expensive as hell. $18 for pearl jams VS. album???

Reminds me of the days of getting fucked over at Sam Goody's when having to decide over which Guns and Roses "Use Your Illusion" album I was going to buy because they were selling them for $18 fucking dollars each. I can go on Amazon and get a high quality CD version of both Use Your Illusion albums for less then two dollars right now.

I guess they have to make money.... That does seem like a LOT for any digital file.... but hey, it's still a lot cheaper than vinyl.

Zod · September 2015

I like high end players because they sound better (I use a fiio x3). The thing is high end players use a high quality DAC. Regular (CD Quality) FLAC files sound way better on a pono, x3, x5, sony walkman, (or other high end player) than they would on an android or iphone/ipod. I've listened to a few HQ rips on my portable player and the sound quality is fairly similar to that of a CD Quality Flac File. I'm not a big fan of mp3's, but CD Quality FLAC's seem pretty good to me for portable use. It's not like I have $500 IEM's to go with my $200 player. I've been using Monster Turbine's which seem to work pretty good with the X3. The best part is I have a giant collection of CD's and I've ripped most of them to FLAC over the past 5 or 6 years. Didn't cost me a dime to go digital

Love the Vinyl at home, but I can't see myself repurchasing all my favorite albums in HD Audio formats.

buck502000 · September 2015

vinyl rips are the answer ------

Zod · September 2015

buck502000 said:
vinyl rips are the answer ------

Seems like a lot of effort. Either you have to make the vinyl rip yourself (at real time) or pirate someone else vinyl rip, in which case you could probably pirate the HD version, that won't have all the vinyl imperfections (assuming it came from the same master).