Evolution v. Creationism Debate
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Praying doesn't work. There are no miracles. God is not just and Jesus didn't rise from the dead. Just putting these thoughts down on board gets very emotional responses, but why? It's okay to strongly challenge these beliefs and I feel humanity will be better once we get past need to believe in these tall tales.
the ultimate irony: man will only be truly a peaceful species when he evolves past the belief in a supreme being.
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I don't believe in god, but I believe in love. So IMO everything was created out of the will of love , the Big Bang created everything we see about 13.7 million years ago with our sun being born around 5 million years ago. Clouds collapse , forcing hydrogen and dust together in ever denser clumps ..stars...this is happening right now and to me that is going forever forward so is 'evolution' . Native people were in awe of the sun, not worshipping it, but with what was behind it, it's a discussion that will forever go round in circles , no one will agree. But something created this, what was before the Big Bang ?! It couldn't have been nothing, what was it! , everything is infinite even love. Right I'm confused now!! Goodnight........0
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do the train members wonder what they will find after death ? will you be greeted by Jesus or just be thrown into darkness ?
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Godfather. wrote: »do the train members wonder what they will find after death ? will you be greeted by Jesus or just be thrown into darkness ?
Godfather.
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Godfather. wrote: »do the train members wonder what they will find after death ? will you be greeted by Jesus or just be thrown into darkness ?
Godfather.
Neither, Godfather. I'm going with door #3.
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Greeted by Jesus doesn't make much sense, and thrown into darkness means you live on in emptiness? I don't find the question to be relevant, afterlife is just a fantasy that makes some sleep better at night. When your brain ceases, you cease. It's really pretty simple.Monkey Driven, Call this Living?0
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Greeted by Jesus doesn't make much sense, and thrown into darkness means you live on in emptiness? I don't find the question to be relevant, afterlife is just a fantasy that makes some sleep better at night. When your brain ceases, you cease. It's really pretty simple.
I think that's pretty much true, rgambs, on the other hand, in his book World Without Us, Alan Weisman talks about how our thoughts are electrical impulses (I used to know the whole physiological process involving neurons, synapses, acetylcholine and all that) that emanate our from our bodies into space and that if it is true space is curved, then eventually some of our energy returns home. So maybe that little form of reincarnation is the closest thing to an after life.
I'm still going with door #3 myself. The Mystery Door.
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I definitely think we leave an imprint on the universe. At the very least, we have subtle gravitational, chemical, and electromagnetic effects that will reverberate until the energy and matter which comprise the universe is stretched so far apart that it is effectively gone (though nothingb is ever gone entirely, it will cease to have cause and effect). Then of course there is the huge effect we have on each other that keeps a peice of you resonating at least until humans are gone. What I can't believe, as much as I would like, is that we can live on in any meaningful way beyond the complete death of the brain. Our memories comprise so much of who we are, and there is no way they survive death.Monkey Driven, Call this Living?0
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I definitely think we leave an imprint on the universe. At the very least, we have subtle gravitational, chemical, and electromagnetic effects that will reverberate until the energy and matter which comprise the universe is stretched so far apart that it is effectively gone (though nothingb is ever gone entirely, it will cease to have cause and effect). Then of course there is the huge effect we have on each other that keeps a peice of you resonating at least until humans are gone. What I can't believe, as much as I would like, is that we can live on in any meaningful way beyond the complete death of the brain. Our memories comprise so much of who we are, and there is no way they survive death.
A good reason why making our lives count and learning and experiencing something meaningful everyday is such a good idea.
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Godfather. wrote: »do the train members wonder what they will find after death ? will you be greeted by Jesus or just be thrown into darkness ?
Godfather.
I'm pretty sure the only thing that will happen after my death is my family and friends will raise a glass and maybe shed a tear and hopefully share a laugh. Beyond that: nothing.
I was thinking about this the other day.....why do christians believe that their belief is correct, when christianity was only invented 2000 years ago? don't you think god would have enlightened someone, anyone, and had and sacrificed his kid, at SOME point earlier than that? if god created everything, why did he wait so fucking long?
every religion has been man made, and all of them have eventually gone by the way side. every single one of them. christianity and buddism and everything else will fall victim to the same thing that Egypt's Ra and Greece's Zeus did. eventually people will come to their senses, and then some other group of people will create a new supreme being in order to control the masses.
I respect everyone's right to believe however they believe, however, I just can't wrap my head around why anyone would believe in anything beyond what we know. all logic tells us man has made up religions upteen times in the past and not one of them has panned out as "the" one. why would a relatively young religion such as christianity be "it", especially when it's so overly documented how much of that religion's stories and traditions have been lifted from other religions?
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I've felt for a long while now that living on in the hearts, minds, and DNA of my loved ones is all that matters. What happens to my spirit or soul or electrical impulses is another adventure, maybe, possibly, or maybe not at all. The not knowing has been liberating in some ways.Are we getting something out of this all-encompassing trip?
Seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned...
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Godfather. wrote: »do the train members wonder what they will find after death ? will you be greeted by Jesus or just be thrown into darkness ?
Godfather.
Why do you ask such a loaded question during a big debate like this?
What is your answer to the question you just posted?Post edited by PJfanwillneverleave1 on0 -
PJfanwillneverleave1 wrote: »Godfather. wrote: »do the train members wonder what they will find after death ? will you be greeted by Jesus or just be thrown into darkness ?
Godfather.
Why do you ask such a loaded question during a big debate like this?
What is your answer to the question you just posted?
I'm not sure if it is a loaded question or not but I do wonder how it fits into a discussion on evolution/creation.
Wasn't there an "is there a heaven or hell?" or an "is there an afterlife" thread here at one time?
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PJfanwillneverleave1 wrote: »Godfather. wrote: »do the train members wonder what they will find after death ? will you be greeted by Jesus or just be thrown into darkness ?
Godfather.
Why do you ask such a loaded question during a big debate like this?
What is your answer to the question you just posted?
Wasn't there an "is there a heaven or hell?" or an "is there an afterlife" thread here at one time?
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Amen to this!I've felt for a long while now that living on in the hearts, minds, and DNA of my loved ones is all that matters. What happens to my spirit or soul or electrical impulses is another adventure, maybe, possibly, or maybe not at all. The not knowing has been liberating in some ways.
And, I've no problem with GF asking questions as we all do. Maybe afterlife ties into one view or another from his side. I have no answers, but to wonder, inquire, etc. - OK by me ;-)
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PJfanwillneverleave1 wrote: »PJfanwillneverleave1 wrote: »Godfather. wrote: »do the train members wonder what they will find after death ? will you be greeted by Jesus or just be thrown into darkness ?
Godfather.
Why do you ask such a loaded question during a big debate like this?
What is your answer to the question you just posted?
Wasn't there an "is there a heaven or hell?" or an "is there an afterlife" thread here at one time?
I hope a thread like that is found or created (pun intended) to ask questions like this.
Now come on, PJFan. You know these kinds of threads evolve!
:-))
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^^^ Thank God for science!
(sorry, couldn't resist that. ;-) )"It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
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