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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,657
    It seems as though we are all (or mostly all) in agreement these day about global warming being real and the majority of people now accept the notion that it is mainly caused by humans. 

    One of the things that gives me this impression is that we really don't see it discussed as much.  It's such a huge problem, I think we all tend to want to push it out of our psyche.  That's understandable, but I also even more find it useful to keep this situation in mind and to work on it.

    I'm reminded of all this having recently read this quote by mountaineer extraordinaire Conrak Anker who has seen much of the work including all of the major glacial parts of the world:

    "If you compare Everest photographs in 1953 with its current state, things are melting. I imagine if I were a golfer in Indiana, I'd be hard-pressed to believe in climate change because nothing's going on there. But when you're up in the mountains and seeing the glaciers melt away, it's an obvious physical manifestation of a warming planet."
    -Conrad Anker
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,657
    As we all know by now, local weather and global climate are two different things and we cannot make a claim regarding global warming based on a particular instance of local weather.  But might not enough of those instances at least give us reason to suspect something is afoot on a bigger scale?  For example, all the wild fires in western North America, the record breaking heat wave in Europe and now this- fires raging within the arctic circle:


    STOCKHOLM — As Europe grapples with near-record temperatures and sustained drought, Sweden has become the latest nation to confront a wave of wildfires as far north as the Arctic Circle, prompting the authorities to evacuate some villages and to appeal for help from neighboring Norway and distant Italy.

    There were no immediate reports of any deaths or injuries, but the intensity of the fires and the extreme weather conditions earlier in the year have prompted anguished debate among some Swedes who have described the conflagrations in apocalyptic terms and linked them to global warming.

    “It’s very, very dry in most of Sweden,” Jonas Olsson, a hydrologist at the Swedish Meteorological and Hydrological Institute, said on Thursday. “The flows in the rivers and lakes are exceptionally low, except in the very northern part of the country. We have water shortages.”

    Rainfall was only around a seventh of the normal amount — the lowest since record-keeping began in the late 19th century, he said.




    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,657
    Sorry this is a double post but I think the article it refers to makes a good point about how we can still do something.  We just need to get moving on it:

    Here's an article posted just yesterday (10.31.18) that talks about what can be done to regarding climate change:


    The article's last paragraph is almost overly simplified considering the science content within it:

    While we will presumably have to contend with many more summers like 2018 in the future, we could likely prevent any further increase in persistent summer weather extremes. In other words, the future is still very much in our hands when it comes to dangerous and damaging summer weather extremes. It’s simply a matter of our willpower to transition quickly from fossil fuels to renewable energy.


    - but it still makes an optimistic point that hinges strongly on a the will to act.  That, of course, may be difficult but maybe if enough of us get the word out that something can be done, and fewer of us resign to doom, well, who knows.  Wonders happen.

    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni











  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,657
    Ultimate denial:

    'It's a ghost page': EPA site's climate change section may be gone for good


    More than a year after the US Environmental Protection Agency took down information on climate change from its website for an “update”, it now seems uncertain whether it will ever reappear.

    In April last year, the EPA replaced its online climate change section with a holding page that said the content was being updated to “reflect the agency’s new direction under President Donald Trump”.

    Information previously found at epa.gov/climatechange made it clear that human activity was warming the planet, resulting in harm to Americans’ health as well as crucial ecosystems on which humans depend.

    The “update” page has now given way to a page that simply states: “We want to help you find what you are looking for.” Below, there are links to search other areas of the EPA website, as well as to an archived “snapshot” of the site from the day before Trump became president in January 2017. The switch was observed by the Environmental Data & Governance Initiative, which tracks changes in government websites.

    “It’s an embarrassment. It is a ghost page,” said Judith Enck, who was EPA regional administrator during Barack Obama’s presidency. “It’s a bit like Amazon not allowing the public to order books via its website – it’s that fundamental. There’s no other issue at the EPA more important than climate change; it affects air, water, health and whether large parts of the world will survive.”




    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni











  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,394
    brianlux said:
    Ultimate denial:

    'It's a ghost page': EPA site's climate change section may be gone for good


    More than a year after the US Environmental Protection Agency took down information on climate change from its website for an “update”, it now seems uncertain whether it will ever reappear.

    In April last year, the EPA replaced its online climate change section with a holding page that said the content was being updated to “reflect the agency’s new direction under President Donald Trump”.

    Information previously found at epa.gov/climatechange made it clear that human activity was warming the planet, resulting in harm to Americans’ health as well as crucial ecosystems on which humans depend.

    The “update” page has now given way to a page that simply states: “We want to help you find what you are looking for.” Below, there are links to search other areas of the EPA website, as well as to an archived “snapshot” of the site from the day before Trump became president in January 2017. The switch was observed by the Environmental Data & Governance Initiative, which tracks changes in government websites.

    “It’s an embarrassment. It is a ghost page,” said Judith Enck, who was EPA regional administrator during Barack Obama’s presidency. “It’s a bit like Amazon not allowing the public to order books via its website – it’s that fundamental. There’s no other issue at the EPA more important than climate change; it affects air, water, health and whether large parts of the world will survive.”




    Ignorant jackasses
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Considering who the head EPA is, this should not be a surprise.
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,657
    Meltdown99 said:
    Considering who the head EPA is, this should not be a surprise.
    Agreed.  No surprise at all.  Pathetic that this is happening.  Those in power who would do this have to be some of the most short-sighted, greedy and selfish people on the face of the earth.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni











  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    brianlux said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    Considering who the head EPA is, this should not be a surprise.
    Agreed.  No surprise at all.  Pathetic that this is happening.  Those in power who would do this have to be some of the most short-sighted, greedy and selfish people on the face of the earth.
    Greedy...
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Woohoo!  Just donated to the Honnold Foundation (fights impacts of climate change) for a chance to climb at Yosemite with Alex Honnold!
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,394
    rgambs said:
    Woohoo!  Just donated to the Honnold Foundation (fights impacts of climate change) for a chance to climb at Yosemite with Alex Honnold!
    I climbed next to him once at my climbing gym.
    Once I realized who it was I just sat and watched.

    Good luck
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    edited November 2018
    rgambs said:
    Woohoo!  Just donated to the Honnold Foundation (fights impacts of climate change) for a chance to climb at Yosemite with Alex Honnold!
    Woohoo indeed! That would be amazing. I’m guessing Canadians aren’t eligible but I’ll check out the foundation anyway, as I’ve been meaning to do since seeing Free Solo. 

    You'll be using ropes though, right? ;) 
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    Bentleyspop said:
    rgambs said:
    Woohoo!  Just donated to the Honnold Foundation (fights impacts of climate change) for a chance to climb at Yosemite with Alex Honnold!
    I climbed next to him once at my climbing gym.
    Once I realized who it was I just sat and watched.

    Good luck
    I would just watch, too. 
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    oftenreading said:
    rgambs said:
    Woohoo!  Just donated to the Honnold Foundation (fights impacts of climate change) for a chance to climb at Yosemite with Alex Honnold!
    Woohoo indeed! That would be amazing. I’m guessing Canadians aren’t eligible but I’ll check out the foundation anyway, as I’ve been meaning to do since seeing Free Solo. 

    You'll be using ropes rhough, right? ;) 
    Just checked and it is international, so I entered, too.

    Good luck to us both ;)
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,657
    rgambs said:
    Woohoo!  Just donated to the Honnold Foundation (fights impacts of climate change) for a chance to climb at Yosemite with Alex Honnold!
    Awesome!
    Bentleyspop said:
    rgambs said:
    Woohoo!  Just donated to the Honnold Foundation (fights impacts of climate change) for a chance to climb at Yosemite with Alex Honnold!
    I climbed next to him once at my climbing gym.
    Once I realized who it was I just sat and watched.

    Good luck
    Wow!   Cool!


    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    Rgambs, I think you’ve said that you mostly climb outside. Do you have a gym, too? 

    Bentleyspop, which gym do you climb at? 

    And do you guys mostly boulder, top rope or lead?  I’m doing about 50/50 bouldering and top roping right now. I used to lead and then changed gyms and haven’t yet gotten back in with a regular group of belay partners who want to lead. I think I might just retake the lead course to brush up. 
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,657
    oftenreading said:
    Rgambs, I think you’ve said that you mostly climb outside. Do you have a gym, too? 

    Bentleyspop, which gym do you climb at? 

    And do you guys mostly boulder, top rope or lead?  I’m doing about 50/50 bouldering and top roping right now. I used to lead and then changed gyms and haven’t yet gotten back in with a regular group of belay partners who want to lead. I think I might just retake the lead course to brush up. 
    How cool!  I sooo miss doing that kind of activity! 
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni











  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    oftenreading said:
    Rgambs, I think you’ve said that you mostly climb outside. Do you have a gym, too? 

    Bentleyspop, which gym do you climb at? 

    And do you guys mostly boulder, top rope or lead?  I’m doing about 50/50 bouldering and top roping right now. I used to lead and then changed gyms and haven’t yet gotten back in with a regular group of belay partners who want to lead. I think I might just retake the lead course to brush up. 
    No gym, I top rope with a static rappel rope lol 
    There's only one decent wall near me, an hour away.  I used to go a few times a year and do a couple easy routes.  It's been a few years, I could barely send a 5.8 last time I went, but I'm 40 lbs lighter and much stronger now.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,394
    oftenreading said:
    Rgambs, I think you’ve said that you mostly climb outside. Do you have a gym, too? 

    Bentleyspop, which gym do you climb at? 

    And do you guys mostly boulder, top rope or lead?  I’m doing about 50/50 bouldering and top roping right now. I used to lead and then changed gyms and haven’t yet gotten back in with a regular group of belay partners who want to lead. I think I might just retake the lead course to brush up. 
    I actually don't currently climb due to injury.
    My local gym was Movement in Boulder.
    https://movementgyms.com

    I used to mix it up. Mostly top rope, some lead, and some bouldering.
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    Bentleyspop said:
    oftenreading said:
    Rgambs, I think you’ve said that you mostly climb outside. Do you have a gym, too? 

    Bentleyspop, which gym do you climb at? 

    And do you guys mostly boulder, top rope or lead?  I’m doing about 50/50 bouldering and top roping right now. I used to lead and then changed gyms and haven’t yet gotten back in with a regular group of belay partners who want to lead. I think I might just retake the lead course to brush up. 
    I actually don't currently climb due to injury.
    My local gym was Movement in Boulder.
    https://movementgyms.com

    I used to mix it up. Mostly top rope, some lead, and some bouldering.
    Oh, damn - sorry to hear you’re injured. I hope you get back at it in due course. They looks like a good gym. I’d like to take that Power-Endurance course myself. 
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739

    'So many bears:' Draft plan says Nunavut polar bear numbers unsafe

    https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/so-many-bears-draft-plan-says-nunavut-polar-bear-numbers-unsafe-1.4173058?fbclid=IwAR1vxyg6fe4cVG-tdG5AmepOE66JkjP3txjohPWifIHGtldeDHxAwyE5_j4

    So I guess the polar bears are doing ok...
    Give Peas A Chance…

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