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"Jesus was a white man too"

Last-12-ExitLast-12-Exit Posts: 8,661
edited December 2013 in A Moving Train
Fox news never ceases to amaze me. In a debate on weather or not Santa should be considered white, Megan Kelly said "Jesus is considered to be a white man too." She was serious as a heart attack!

I have two questions: How many "white men" were born in the first century in the middle east?
and for the Christians in the crowd:
Do you consider Jesus a white man?
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  • Jamminonthe1Jamminonthe1 Posts: 1,243
    He's a WMA.
  • Thirty Bills UnpaidThirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    Last-12-Exit wrote:
    Fox news never ceases to amaze me. In a debate on weather or not Santa should be considered white, Megan Kelly said "Jesus is considered to be a white man too." She was serious as a heart attack!

    I have two questions: How many "white men" were born in the first century in the middle east?
    and for the Christians in the crowd:
    Do you consider Jesus a white man?

    The really holy and magical men were white people born in the first century in the middle east... I think.

    Jesus is a white man because look at all the pictures that show he's white.
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    i have always wanted to know how jesus, wondering around the middle east, found men named, andrew, james, john, peter, etc... those names do not sound like what i would imagine.
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  • Drowned OutDrowned Out Posts: 6,056
    Jesus and Santa had a lot more in common than just being white.
    They were both very generous, and suffered the little children to come unto them.
    And they will both live forever...
    In lore, that is....because they're both man-made fairy tales.
  • Last-12-ExitLast-12-Exit Posts: 8,661
    Drowned Out wrote:
    Jesus and Santa had a lot more in common than just being white.
    They were both very generous, and suffered the little children to come unto them.
    And they will both live forever...
    In lore, that is....because they're both man-made fairy tales.
    I do believe that Jesus was a real person that existed at the time. I don't believe he could have been a white man. I also don't believe he was the son of god.
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Last-12-Exit wrote:
    Megan Kelly said "Jesus is considered to be a white man too."

    She's right. Jesus is considered to be a white man by the majority of people in the West. Nothing controversial there.
    Just take a look at any of the many representations of him, and you'll see a blue-eyed white man.

    The way I look at it, if you're gonna invent a fictional character like Jesus, then why shouldn't you have the freedom to describe him anyway you like? I mean, if they painted him as looking like an androgynous albino Aboriginal Australian, suffering from hirsutism (excessive hairiness), and so looking like a monkey from outer space, I wouldn't give a toss.

    Though as I've said before, I do find it strange that Americans in the 21st Century choose to base their belief's about the World on a quirky 2000 year old Middle Eastern Cult.
    I suppose some people will do anything to avoid acknowledging the World around them, and the Earth under their feet.
  • badbrainsbadbrains Posts: 10,255
    Last-12-Exit wrote:
    Drowned Out wrote:
    Jesus and Santa had a lot more in common than just being white.
    They were both very generous, and suffered the little children to come unto them.
    And they will both live forever...
    In lore, that is....because they're both man-made fairy tales.
    I do believe that Jesus was a real person that existed at the time. I don't believe he could have been a white man. I also don't believe he was the son of god.

    Careful Last-12-Exit, Muslims believe those thoughts too. You dnt want to be considered a Muslim now would ya? 8-):lol:
  • Thirty Bills UnpaidThirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    Drowned Out wrote:
    Jesus and Santa had a lot more in common than just being white.
    They were both very generous, and suffered the little children to come unto them.
    And they will both live forever...
    In lore, that is....because they're both man-made fairy tales.

    Was Moses real?

    I so badly want to believe that parting the sea story.

    Although, one thing I can't get my head around is this: when he parted the sea... wouldn't the sea floor be all muddy? How did everyone get across so quickly hip deep in mud? Did he make the sea floor like a cement path and then quickly change it back to normal after they had crossed?

    Why can't someone nowadays do something really awesome like that? Why was all the awesomeness saved for the people back then? Surely we can bear witness to a miracle or two every century or so... can't we?
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  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:

    Was Moses real?

    I so badly want to believe that parting the sea story.

    Although, one thing I can't get my head around is this: when he parted the sea... wouldn't the sea floor be all muddy? How did everyone get across so quickly hip deep in mud? Did he make the sea floor like a cement path and then quickly change it back to normal after they had crossed?

    Why can't someone nowadays do something really awesome like that? Why was all the awesomeness saved for the people back then? Surely we can bear witness to a miracle or two every century or so... can't we?

    You mean David Blaine's shit ain't real?
  • Thirty Bills UnpaidThirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:

    Was Moses real?

    I so badly want to believe that parting the sea story.

    Although, one thing I can't get my head around is this: when he parted the sea... wouldn't the sea floor be all muddy? How did everyone get across so quickly hip deep in mud? Did he make the sea floor like a cement path and then quickly change it back to normal after they had crossed?

    Why can't someone nowadays do something really awesome like that? Why was all the awesomeness saved for the people back then? Surely we can bear witness to a miracle or two every century or so... can't we?

    You mean David Blaine's shit ain't real?

    I stand corrected. We do get our miracles. But let's be honest... they're not near as awesome as the miracles those folks that wrote the bible got. Pisses me off.
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  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:

    Was Moses real?

    I so badly want to believe that parting the sea story.

    Although, one thing I can't get my head around is this: when he parted the sea... wouldn't the sea floor be all muddy? How did everyone get across so quickly hip deep in mud? Did he make the sea floor like a cement path and then quickly change it back to normal after they had crossed?

    Why can't someone nowadays do something really awesome like that? Why was all the awesomeness saved for the people back then? Surely we can bear witness to a miracle or two every century or so... can't we?

    You mean David Blaine's shit ain't real?

    I stand corrected. We do get our miracles. But let's be honest... they're not near as awesome as the miracles those folks that wrote the bible got. Pisses me off.

    Though they didn't have t.v or computers back then, so we can't really deny them their miracles.
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,051
    That anyone would assume they know the ethnicity of someone who's looks have never been described anywhere- that is amusing! On the other hand, Megan Kelly is a news anchor for Fox News so she must be correct... right?
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  • Thirty Bills UnpaidThirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    brianlux wrote:
    That anyone would assume they know the ethnicity of someone who's looks have never been described anywhere- that is amusing! On the other hand, Megan Kelly is a news anchor for Fox News so she must be correct... right?

    Brian...

    While the OP and everybody else likely appreciates the effort to get the thread back on track... for the moment, some would like to talk about awesome miracles and how frequent and grandiose they were back then compared to the teeny weeny ones we see by Chris Angel today.
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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    The main reason why Jesus is seens as white is probably due to the images painted of Him... by artists in Europe. Those are the images we typically convey when the name of Jesus is menationed, right? Images from those painters who imagined Him as one of them, not a Jew.
    And remember, throughout the history of Western Civilization, Jews were considered lesser beings. That is also why images of Satan takes on exagerated physical characteristics of Jews.
    ...
    The real Jesus (and yes, I do believe He lived... as a Man, not a Saviour) was a Jew. His death was after His disruptions at the Passover celebrations.
    When Western Culture (Rome) adopted Christianity at its state religion... it adopted a lot more and cultivated the beloved Pagan Rituals into its religion. That is why we celebrate the birth of Christ around the Winter Solstice... to use the ancient Yule celebrations to celebrate the birth of Christ.
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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    P.S. What about St. Nick's companion, Krampus?
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  • Hugh Freaking DillonHugh Freaking Dillon Posts: 14,010
    all fictional characters created before the last 50 years have been white.
    Gimli 1993
    Fargo 2003
    Winnipeg 2005
    Winnipeg 2011
    St. Paul 2014
  • even flow - question markeven flow - question mark Posts: 1,568
    Don't take the Christ out of Christmas!

    I used to hit up Jesus for my dope when I was living in Mexico. Sweet guy he was.

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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Last-12-Exit wrote:
    Fox news never ceases to amaze me. In a debate on weather or not Santa should be considered white, Megan Kelly said "Jesus is considered to be a white man too." She was serious as a heart attack!

    I have two questions: How many "white men" were born in the first century in the middle east?
    and for the Christians in the crowd:
    Do you consider Jesus a white man?

    no ! he is the son God,but yeah how many white people were born in the middle east in the first century :lol:
    that being said..I dated a gal from Telaveve..(spelling blunder) back in the 80's and in aperance she looked white as me but no I never thought Jesus was white.

    Godfather.
  • THE LOOKTHE LOOK Posts: 324
    I believe in Jesus! I don't believe that he looked like Brad Pitt with long hair!
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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    even flow - question mark wrote:
    Don't take the Christ out of Christmas!

    I used to hit up Jesus for my dope when I was living in Mexico. Sweet guy he was.
    ...
    And the modern image of Santa Claus comes from the 'Night Before Christmas' in the 1800s... in America. Of course, Santa Claus is white... and so was Sinterklaas.
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    THE LOOK wrote:
    I believe in Jesus! I don't believe that he looked like Brad Pitt with long hair!


    :lol::lol::lol: awesome ! Brad Pitt :lol:
    someday we will know what he looks like and till then we wait.


    Godfather.
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    I can tollerate the non belivers comments about Jesus but......no Santa you guy's are going to far. :o



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  • VitalogensiaVitalogensia Posts: 1,995
    Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:
    Was Moses real?

    I so badly want to believe that parting the sea story.

    Although, one thing I can't get my head around is this: when he parted the sea... wouldn't the sea floor be all muddy? How did everyone get across so quickly hip deep in mud? Did he make the sea floor like a cement path and then quickly change it back to normal after they had crossed?

    Why can't someone nowadays do something really awesome like that? Why was all the awesomeness saved for the people back then? Surely we can bear witness to a miracle or two every century or so... can't we?

    I just started reading the Bible, out of curiosity (I'm agnostic), and was surprised after reading Exodus that there is no archeological evidence of the Jews being in Egypt. Sorry to link to wikipedia, but I'm at work so I don't have the time to find a better source :lol:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Exodus

    To the OP's point, I thought he had to be white because...can non-white people be hippies?
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  • Last-12-ExitLast-12-Exit Posts: 8,661
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Last-12-Exit wrote:
    Megan Kelly said "Jesus is considered to be a white man too."

    She's right. Jesus is considered to be a white man by the majority of people in the West. Nothing controversial there.
    Just take a look at any of the many representations of him, and you'll see a blue-eyed white man.

    The way I look at it, if you're gonna invent a fictional character like Jesus, then why shouldn't you have the freedom to describe him anyway you like? I mean, if they painted him as looking like an androgynous albino Aboriginal Australian, suffering from hirsutism (excessive hairiness), and so looking like a monkey from outer space, I wouldn't give a toss.

    Though as I've said before, I do find it strange that Americans in the 21st Century choose to base their belief's about the World on a quirky 2000 year old Middle Eastern Cult.
    I suppose some people will do anything to avoid acknowledging the World around them, and the Earth under their feet.

    You make a good point about how Jesus is considered. I suppose it was the way she said it. And I thought of the black people I know who have little statues of a black Jesus. I wonder if the black people in her audience were offended.
  • Last-12-ExitLast-12-Exit Posts: 8,661
    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LV_9ch2kQ3c

    Here's the video of what she said. She says Jesus is white around the 1:45 mark.
    I didn't quote her correctly. She didn't say considered. I felt her attitude during the whole segment was smug.
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,286
    Do you think Jesus ever did the "pull my finger" trick with the disciples?

    http://www.popularmechanics.com/science ... cs/1282186
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  • chadwickchadwick Posts: 21,157
    my jesus & santa are both dark skinned women
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  • badbrainsbadbrains Posts: 10,255
    even flow - question mark wrote:
    Don't take the Christ out of Christmas!

    I used to hit up Jesus for my dope when I was living in Mexico. Sweet guy he was.

    I went to school and played soccer in so-cal with Jesus. Man could he play soccer back then 8-)
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    I put this on the board a few years back, but I would like to share again..

    I dont remember it word for word like I did back then (I posted just minutes after the person left)

    a customer comes into my work and after business is discussed, this happens..

    Customer: "ya know, you look like Jesus"
    Me: (laughing) "i guess i do"
    Customer: "did you try to look like Jesus?"
    Me: "No. but, we dont really know what Jesus actually looked like"
    Customer: "What do you mean?"
    Me: " I mean there is really no way to know what he actually looked like"
    Customer: (looking at me like I am crazy) " yes there is! look at all the pictures"
    Me: "oh......sorry, I forgot"
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