Options

Are more than 2 shows necessary on this tour?

JimiaxplyrJimiaxplyr Posts: 33
edited October 2013 in The Porch
Hello fellow PJ fans! I am one of the guys who reads a lot of what goes on here but has never posted before. After being at Philly 1 and 2, I wanted to throw something out there and see what you guys think. I am sure I will immediately get bashed by a lot of people but I really don't mean this in an insulting way and am hoping that you can help me feel differently about this year's tour.

I have been to London, Pittsburgh, and Philly 1&2 this year and can't help but feel I don't need to go to any more shows on this tour. I was at both Philly shows and was disappointed that the band played so many of the same songs between the two nights. This seems to be so contrary to how they usually do back to back nights doesn't it? These two shows however, can't be the judge of an entire tour right? What I can't help but think about is how similar all of the band's "core" songs have become on this tour so far. It seems like if I chose any show and sprinkle in a rarity or two, I can pretty much predict the set. I don't remember the band being like this even a few years back. Am I wrong?

I had a great time at the shows and have tickets for four more shows on leg 2. I can't help but wonder if I will miss anything by not going? I have never felt like this before and can't shake it.

What do you guys think?
Post edited by Unknown User on
«13

Comments

  • SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 Posts: 26,987
    I am at the point now where I appreciate the hits almost just as much as the rarity so I think two is preferred (hard to say necessary when its just a concert). I was so happy to make 4 shows and looking forward to my fifth and final on friday

    20 new songs for me this tour :shock:. I would have been bummed to miss the stuff in Philly if I did not travel.

    10/18/13
    Pendulum
    Lightning Bolt
    Mind Your Manners
    Dissident
    Swallowed Whole
    Infallible
    Sirens
    Eruption
    Chloe Dancer
    Let The Records Play
    Oceans

    10/19/13
    All Those Yesterdays
    Future Days
    Leaving Here

    10/21/13
    Long Road
    Man Of The Hour
    Mother
    1/2 Full

    10/22/13

    Parachutes
    Come Back
    severed hand thirteen
    2006: Gorge 7/23 2008: Hartford 6/27 Beacon 7/1 2009: Spectrum 10/30-31
    2010: Newark 5/18 MSG 5/20-21 2011: PJ20 9/3-4 2012: Made In America 9/2
    2013: Brooklyn 10/18-19 Philly 10/21-22 Hartford 10/25 2014: ACL10/12
    2015: NYC 9/23 2016: Tampa 4/11 Philly 4/28-29 MSG 5/1-2 Fenway 8/5+8/7
    2017: RRHoF 4/7   2018: Fenway 9/2+9/4   2021: Sea Hear Now 9/18 
    2022: MSG 9/11  2024: MSG 9/3-4 Philly 9/7+9/9 Fenway 9/15+9/17
    2025: Pittsburgh 5/16+5/18
  • Dr. DelightDr. Delight Posts: 11,210
    2 shows exactly for me this tour.

    It def does seem that there are many similarities to shows this tour, with each song maybe bearing a new song or two from the previous stops.
    And so you see, I have come to doubt
    All that I once held as true
    I stand alone without beliefs
    The only truth I know is you.
  • RC153010RC153010 Posts: 864
    I say 2 is fine. Brooklyn shows were a bunch of repeats 2
  • Thanks for the honest responses. I do appreciate the hits but I also liked the way they would mix them up from night to night. For example, if you always want to play even flow and alive, I am ok with that but to repeat the same hits night after night seems a little weird. They used to mix it up a little more but lately haven't at all.

    They also used to only play a rarity once or twice and move to new ones but now they seem to play the same rarities (come back, parachutes, blood, etc). All of the songs I consider rarities I actually heard twice which made it less fun.

    I just wonder if this is a slump or if this is the PJ of the future? I am wrong or is this a complete rotation of the way things used to be?
  • Empty GlassEmpty Glass In Rob's shed Posts: 12,329
    edited October 2013
    Personally, I think the band is very proud of the new album. More so than the past couple. I think they like playing the new ones live. Next year's shows will be more "wide open".

    I'm not a big fan of the pattern we've been in since '09....the slow encore start. It's just too predictable.

    :lol: damn, reading that last line...we are a picky bunch aren't we? :lol:
    Post edited by Empty Glass on
    I've met Rob

    DEGENERATE FUK

    This place is dead

    "THERE ARE NO CLIQUES, ONLY THOSE WHO DON'T JOIN THE FUN" - Empty circa 2015

    "Kfsbho&$thncds" - F Me In the Brain - circa 2015
  • RC153010RC153010 Posts: 864
    Yup, like all night.
  • RC153010RC153010 Posts: 864
    I don't know if I would be proud of lightning bolt, I think stones album is much better
  • RC153010 wrote:
    I say 2 is fine. Brooklyn shows were a bunch of repeats 2


    2 Brooklyn show:

    66 songs total, 56 different songs played, only 10 repeats

    (concert staples)
    Do the Evolution
    Porch
    Alive
    Given to Fly

    AND....

    6 songs from Lightning Bolt which you have to expect because its a new album
    Stop throwing the man quarters!


    EV 07-6-2011, LA1 11/23/2013, LA2 11/24/2013
  • It's customary for a band who has a new album out, to play a lot of that new album.
  • South of SeattleSouth of Seattle West Seattle Posts: 10,724
    2 is usually my max.

    It has to do with $$$

    1. It's expensive to go to multiple shows
    2. Seeing the crazy merch lines, stalker fans, people breaking promises with one another. I can do without all that.

    It's similar to Vegas. It's all fun and a good time, but anymore than two days of it is overkill for your mental well being.
    NERDS!
  • enrique_hr wrote:

    (concert staples)
    Do the Evolution
    Porch
    Alive
    Given to Fly

    AND....

    6 songs from Lightning Bolt which you have to expect because its a new album

    I agree about the concert staples, but we didn't get GTF in Worcester 1. I just love that song live. The others as well are always good to hear, although I could do without Alive every time.
  • HollisBrownHollisBrown Posts: 4,325
    2 is too little, 25 is not enough. If you can afford it and have the time, as many as possible. If you can only do 1 or 2 then that's fine, too.
    TRANSPLANTS SAVE LIVES
    www.UNOS.org
    Donate Organs and Save a Life
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,569
    There is no rule saying you have to go to a ton of shows. :lol: I personally think that if I went to more than 4 or so during a tour I'd kind of ruin it for myself. As it is, I'm only going to 1 (or a very slight chance of 2).
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • foodboyfoodboy Posts: 988
    i saw london ,pitt and buff and that seems to be enough. i have said already that there is a group of songs they play plus some others . i love the band but i don't like the same songs every night. they are still better than most as all other bands play the same songs every night. but those three may be enough for me. too many hits played.
  • foodboyfoodboy Posts: 988
    i saw london ,pitt and buff and that seems to be enough. i have said already that there is a group of songs they play plus some others . i love the band but i don't like the same songs every night. they are still better than most as all other bands play the same songs every night. but those three may be enough for me. too many hits played.
  • I've actually begun rethinking my own concert attending habits. Over the past three or four years, whenever I've seen multiple shows in a week, it seems like the first one rules, but I'm not as into the second one. I attended all four Spectrum shows in 2009 and it was like a sensory overload. Way too much. In 2010, I caught Virginia on May 10th and then MSG on May 21st and the 11 days between shows was awesome. MSG seemed like I hadn't seen them in a while...like it was a whole new tour. But Brooklyn on Saturday and Philly on Tuesday this year....I dunno...I just wasn't too into Philly for some reason. Maybe at this point, being older and having seen them a bunch of times, less can be more for me. I saw five shows in 2003, 4 in 2006, and four in 2008.....and it didn't seem like enough. This year, two seemed like plenty.
    2000: Camden 1, 2003: Philly, State College, Camden 1, MSG 2, Hershey, 2004: Reading, 2005: Philly, 2006: Camden 1, 2, East Rutherford 1, 2007: Lollapalooza, 2008: Camden 1, Washington D.C., MSG 1, 2, 2009: Philly 1, 2, 3, 4, 2010: Bristol, MSG 2, 2011: PJ20 1, 2, 2012: Made In America, 2013: Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014: Denver, 2015: Global Citizen Festival, 2016: Philly 2, Fenway 1, 2018: Fenway 1, 2, 2021: Sea. Hear. Now. 2022: Camden, 2024Philly 2, 2025: Pittsburgh 1

    Pearl Jam bootlegs:
    http://wegotshit.blogspot.com
  • Yes WayYes Way Posts: 453
    I'm very much looking forward to going to twice as many shows as "necessary" come November.
    Apr 07, 1994/Oct 01, 1996/Jul 07, 1998/Jul 08, 1998/Aug 29, 1998/Aug 31, 1998/Sep 01, 1998/Sep 03, 1998/Sep 04, 1998/Sep 06, 1998/Jun 01, 2000/Jun 04, 2000/Jun 06, 2000/Oct 20, 2000/Oct 21, 2000/Oct 22, 2000/Oct 24, 2000/Oct 25, 2000/Oct 20, 2001/Oct 21, 2001/May 30, 2003/Jun 01, 2003/Jun 02, 2003/Jun 28, 2003/Jul 02, 2003/Oct 25, 2003/Jul 15, 2006/Jul 16, 2006/Jul 18, 2006/Jul 20, 2006/Jul 22, 2006/Jul 23, 2006/Sep 21, 2009/Sep 22, 2009/Sep 26, 2009/Sep 25, 2011
  • I agree, i feel the set-lists have been similar. Yes, they change a few songs out. I understand they're trying to keep everyone happy. I'm amazed they haven't played getaway. I think its the best song on LB. I also don't understand why they keep opening up with pendulum.
    "I wish I was a lucky man, well I guess that I am." EV
    "Gave her love away. Put it in my pocket when it should've been framed."

    8/28/96, 8/20/98, 9/11/98, 8/23/00, 8/24/00, 8/27/00, 9/1/00, 9/2/00, 4/28/03, 6/6/03, 7/5/03,
    7/6/03, 7/8/03, 7/9/03, 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 5/12/06, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,569
    Chrispj09 wrote:
    I agree, i feel the set-lists have been similar. Yes, they change a few songs out. I understand they're trying to keep everyone happy. I'm amazed they haven't played getaway. I think its the best song on LB. I also don't understand why they keep opening up with pendulum.
    Yeah, well them opening with Pendulum every single night is really fucking me up in the PJ fantasy tour, so I really wish they would stop that. :lol:
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • It seems like everyone feels the same as me but maybe I have been going to too many. I have only been going to shows for 5 years but when I look back at old tours, it seems different? Is it just me?

    Now, I only wish there was a way to donate 10c tix to someone who could use them. There is no way to get my tix into the wishlist foundation or something right?

    Thanks guys for the responses and advice.
  • CC9172CC9172 northern new jersey Posts: 127
    I posted the following in philly 2 review. Appreciate pj while they still tour. Been a fan since 94.

    Spoiled Pearl jam fans! I was at 3 shows bklyn 1 philly 1 and 2 and loved all 3 . How many groups do you know that give 2 and a half to 3 hr of music and give 100% effort EVERY TIME. I savor every minute of shows I go to . How long do you think they will keep going like this?. Thank you pearl jam for all the pleasure over the last 23 years!
  • Yes WayYes Way Posts: 453
    CC9172 wrote:
    I posted the following in philly 2 review. Appreciate pj while they still tour. Been a fan since 94.

    Spoiled Pearl jam fans! I was at 3 shows bklyn 1 philly 1 and 2 and loved all 3 . How many groups do you know that give 2 and a half to 3 hr of music and give 100% effort EVERY TIME. I savor every minute of shows I go to . How long do you think they will keep going like this?. Thank you pearl jam for all the pleasure over the last 23 years!

    This X1,000
    Apr 07, 1994/Oct 01, 1996/Jul 07, 1998/Jul 08, 1998/Aug 29, 1998/Aug 31, 1998/Sep 01, 1998/Sep 03, 1998/Sep 04, 1998/Sep 06, 1998/Jun 01, 2000/Jun 04, 2000/Jun 06, 2000/Oct 20, 2000/Oct 21, 2000/Oct 22, 2000/Oct 24, 2000/Oct 25, 2000/Oct 20, 2001/Oct 21, 2001/May 30, 2003/Jun 01, 2003/Jun 02, 2003/Jun 28, 2003/Jul 02, 2003/Oct 25, 2003/Jul 15, 2006/Jul 16, 2006/Jul 18, 2006/Jul 20, 2006/Jul 22, 2006/Jul 23, 2006/Sep 21, 2009/Sep 22, 2009/Sep 26, 2009/Sep 25, 2011
  • smanchac1smanchac1 Posts: 2,256
    99 different songs played 8 shows in.

    So I have to disagree!

    I think that stat speaks for it self.
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,569
    Jimiaxplyr wrote:
    It seems like everyone feels the same as me but maybe I have been going to too many. I have only been going to shows for 5 years but when I look back at old tours, it seems different? Is it just me?

    Now, I only wish there was a way to donate 10c tix to someone who could use them. There is no way to get my tix into the wishlist foundation or something right?

    Thanks guys for the responses and advice.
    Yeah, it would be really great if they would figure out a system for giving 10C ticket ownership to other 10C members. It wouldn't be that hard, so I don't get why they don't allow it (although I don't think it would work for wishlist foundation pre-party raffles, if that's what you were thinking, because that would be too short notice for 10C to transfer ownership to another specific person...).
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • I've seen them 24 times and I use to listen to bootlegs all the time. So a lot of the songs don't have the same feel like they use to.
    "I wish I was a lucky man, well I guess that I am." EV
    "Gave her love away. Put it in my pocket when it should've been framed."

    8/28/96, 8/20/98, 9/11/98, 8/23/00, 8/24/00, 8/27/00, 9/1/00, 9/2/00, 4/28/03, 6/6/03, 7/5/03,
    7/6/03, 7/8/03, 7/9/03, 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 5/12/06, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
  • ldent42ldent42 NYC Posts: 7,859
    I think it all depends on you. No shows are 'necessary' per se, but have you ever been to a show that was not enjoyable? Looking at a show's setlist on paper doesn't always do it justice, in my opinion there are several contributing factors to make or break a great show experience. If you have shitty seats, or you are stuck next to unpleasant people for the duration of the show, or if you were stuck in traffic/stuck on a merch line, had someone spill something on you, etc. can ruin the experience for you even if the setlist was ideal.

    I was a little bit worried about PJ overload because I was at Wrigley, both Brooklyn shows, I'm going to Hartford, and then 4 of the BDO dates in January. That's 8 shows in 7 months, but I am still distracted as fuck with excitement for Hartford on Friday, because each experience is different. There are some really interesting setlists so far and there is obviously an emphasis on the songs from the new album but there's some really good rarities and sing-along favorites getting mixed in as well.

    If you are burnt out on shows maybe just wait for the boots to come out? :)
    NYC 06/24/08-Auckland 11/27/09-Chch 11/29/09-Newark 05/18/10-Atlanta 09/22/12-Chicago 07/19/13-Brooklyn 10/18/13 & 10/19/13-Hartford 10/25/13-Baltimore 10/27/13-Auckland 1/17/14-GC 1/19/14-Melbourne 1/24/14-Sydney 1/26/14-Amsterdam 6/16/14 & 6/17/14-Milan 6/20/14-Berlin 6/26/14-Leeds 7/8/14-Milton Keynes 7/11/14-St. Louis 10/3/14-NYC 9/26/15
    LIVEFOOTSTEPS.ORG/USER/?USR=435
  • crazygeocrazygeo Posts: 2,380
    edited October 2013
    I wish more people didn't want to go....need more room to jam :lol:

    If you are burnt out on shows maybe just wait for the boots to come out? :)
    when do the boots come out for this tour? want philly 1 and 2...
    Post edited by crazygeo on
    • 1991-11-17• 1998-08-28 •2000-09-01
    • 2003-07-05• 2004-10-01
    • 2005-10-03• 2006-05-27
    • 2008-06-19• 2009-10-27 2009-10-28 •2009-10-30
    • 2009-10-31

    *Tres Mts 2011-03-23
    *Eddie Vedder 2011-06-25
    - 2013-10-21
    - 2013=10-22
    -2016 -04-28
    -2016 -04-29
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,081
    three shows was plenty for me (brooklyn 1/2 philly 2). I can't believe i did 11 in 2003...wow.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • ckravitzckravitz NJ Posts: 1,668
    No, two shows are PLENTY. Now PM me for where to send those tickets you won't be needing. :)
  • FrankieGFrankieG Abingdon MD Posts: 9,100
    edited October 2013
    :think:
    Post edited by FrankieG on
    2003: 7/14 NJ ... 2006: 6/1 NJ, 6/3 NJ ... 2007: 8/5 IL ... 2008: 6/24 NY, 6/25 NY, 8/7 EV NJ ... 2009: 10/27 PA, 10/28 PA, 10/30 PA, 10/31 PA
    2010: 5/20 NY, 5/21 NY ... 2011: 6/21 EV NY, 9/3 WI, 9/4 WI ... 2012: 9/2 PA, 9/22 GA ... 2013: 10/18 NY, 10/19 NY, 10/21 PA, 10/22 PA, 10/27 MD
    2015: 9/23 NY, 9/26 NY ... 2016: 4/28 PA, 4/29 PA, 5/1 NY, 5/2 NY, 6/11 TN, 8/7 MA, 11/4 TOTD PA, 11/5 TOTD PA ... 2018: 8/10 WA
    2022: 9/14 NJ ... 2024: 5/28 WA, 9/7 PA, 9/9 PA ---- http://imgur.com/a/nk0s7
Sign In or Register to comment.