Are more than 2 shows necessary on this tour?

Jimiaxplyr · October 2013

Hello fellow PJ fans! I am one of the guys who reads a lot of what goes on here but has never posted before. After being at Philly 1 and 2, I wanted to throw something out there and see what you guys think. I am sure I will immediately get bashed by a lot of people but I really don't mean this in an insulting way and am hoping that you can help me feel differently about this year's tour.

I have been to London, Pittsburgh, and Philly 1&2 this year and can't help but feel I don't need to go to any more shows on this tour. I was at both Philly shows and was disappointed that the band played so many of the same songs between the two nights. This seems to be so contrary to how they usually do back to back nights doesn't it? These two shows however, can't be the judge of an entire tour right? What I can't help but think about is how similar all of the band's "core" songs have become on this tour so far. It seems like if I chose any show and sprinkle in a rarity or two, I can pretty much predict the set. I don't remember the band being like this even a few years back. Am I wrong?

I had a great time at the shows and have tickets for four more shows on leg 2. I can't help but wonder if I will miss anything by not going? I have never felt like this before and can't shake it.

What do you guys think?

SVRDhand13 · October 2013

I am at the point now where I appreciate the hits almost just as much as the rarity so I think two is preferred (hard to say necessary when its just a concert). I was so happy to make 4 shows and looking forward to my fifth and final on friday

20 new songs for me this tour :shock:. I would have been bummed to miss the stuff in Philly if I did not travel.

10/18/13
Pendulum
Lightning Bolt
Mind Your Manners
Dissident
Swallowed Whole
Infallible
Sirens
Eruption
Chloe Dancer
Let The Records Play
Oceans

10/19/13
All Those Yesterdays
Future Days
Leaving Here

10/21/13
Long Road
Man Of The Hour
Mother
1/2 Full

10/22/13

Parachutes
Come Back

Dr. Delight · October 2013

2 shows exactly for me this tour.

It def does seem that there are many similarities to shows this tour, with each song maybe bearing a new song or two from the previous stops.

RC153010 · October 2013

I say 2 is fine. Brooklyn shows were a bunch of repeats 2

Jimiaxplyr · October 2013

Thanks for the honest responses. I do appreciate the hits but I also liked the way they would mix them up from night to night. For example, if you always want to play even flow and alive, I am ok with that but to repeat the same hits night after night seems a little weird. They used to mix it up a little more but lately haven't at all.

They also used to only play a rarity once or twice and move to new ones but now they seem to play the same rarities (come back, parachutes, blood, etc). All of the songs I consider rarities I actually heard twice which made it less fun.

I just wonder if this is a slump or if this is the PJ of the future? I am wrong or is this a complete rotation of the way things used to be?

Empty Glass · October 2013

Personally, I think the band is very proud of the new album. More so than the past couple. I think they like playing the new ones live. Next year's shows will be more "wide open".

I'm not a big fan of the pattern we've been in since '09....the slow encore start. It's just too predictable.

damn, reading that last line...we are a picky bunch aren't we?

RC153010 · October 2013

Yup, like all night.

RC153010 · October 2013

I don't know if I would be proud of lightning bolt, I think stones album is much better

enrique_hr · October 2013

RC153010 wrote:

I say 2 is fine. Brooklyn shows were a bunch of repeats 2

2 Brooklyn show:

66 songs total, 56 different songs played, only 10 repeats

(concert staples)
Do the Evolution
Porch
Alive
Given to Fly

AND....

6 songs from Lightning Bolt which you have to expect because its a new album

backseatLover12 · October 2013

It's customary for a band who has a new album out, to play a lot of that new album.

South of Seattle · October 2013

2 is usually my max.

It has to do with $$$

1. It's expensive to go to multiple shows
2. Seeing the crazy merch lines, stalker fans, people breaking promises with one another. I can do without all that.

It's similar to Vegas. It's all fun and a good time, but anymore than two days of it is overkill for your mental well being.

backseatLover12 · October 2013

enrique_hr wrote:

(concert staples)
Do the Evolution
Porch
Alive
Given to Fly

AND....

6 songs from Lightning Bolt which you have to expect because its a new album

I agree about the concert staples, but we didn't get GTF in Worcester 1. I just love that song live. The others as well are always good to hear, although I could do without Alive every time.

HollisBrown · October 2013

2 is too little, 25 is not enough. If you can afford it and have the time, as many as possible. If you can only do 1 or 2 then that's fine, too.

PJ_Soul · October 2013

There is no rule saying you have to go to a ton of shows.

I personally think that if I went to more than 4 or so during a tour I'd kind of ruin it for myself. As it is, I'm only going to 1 (or a very slight chance of 2).

foodboy · October 2013

i saw london ,pitt and buff and that seems to be enough. i have said already that there is a group of songs they play plus some others . i love the band but i don't like the same songs every night. they are still better than most as all other bands play the same songs every night. but those three may be enough for me. too many hits played.

foodboy · October 2013

i saw london ,pitt and buff and that seems to be enough. i have said already that there is a group of songs they play plus some others . i love the band but i don't like the same songs every night. they are still better than most as all other bands play the same songs every night. but those three may be enough for me. too many hits played.

Ledbetterman10 · October 2013

I've actually begun rethinking my own concert attending habits. Over the past three or four years, whenever I've seen multiple shows in a week, it seems like the first one rules, but I'm not as into the second one. I attended all four Spectrum shows in 2009 and it was like a sensory overload. Way too much. In 2010, I caught Virginia on May 10th and then MSG on May 21st and the 11 days between shows was awesome. MSG seemed like I hadn't seen them in a while...like it was a whole new tour. But Brooklyn on Saturday and Philly on Tuesday this year....I dunno...I just wasn't too into Philly for some reason. Maybe at this point, being older and having seen them a bunch of times, less can be more for me. I saw five shows in 2003, 4 in 2006, and four in 2008.....and it didn't seem like enough. This year, two seemed like plenty.

Yes Way · October 2013

I'm very much looking forward to going to twice as many shows as "necessary" come November.

Chrispj09 · October 2013

I agree, i feel the set-lists have been similar. Yes, they change a few songs out. I understand they're trying to keep everyone happy. I'm amazed they haven't played getaway. I think its the best song on LB. I also don't understand why they keep opening up with pendulum.

PJ_Soul · October 2013

Chrispj09 wrote:

I agree, i feel the set-lists have been similar. Yes, they change a few songs out. I understand they're trying to keep everyone happy. I'm amazed they haven't played getaway. I think its the best song on LB. I also don't understand why they keep opening up with pendulum.

Yeah, well them opening with Pendulum every single night is really fucking me up in the PJ fantasy tour, so I really wish they would stop that.

Jimiaxplyr · October 2013

It seems like everyone feels the same as me but maybe I have been going to too many. I have only been going to shows for 5 years but when I look back at old tours, it seems different? Is it just me?

Now, I only wish there was a way to donate 10c tix to someone who could use them. There is no way to get my tix into the wishlist foundation or something right?

Thanks guys for the responses and advice.

CC9172 · October 2013

I posted the following in philly 2 review. Appreciate pj while they still tour. Been a fan since 94.

Spoiled Pearl jam fans! I was at 3 shows bklyn 1 philly 1 and 2 and loved all 3 . How many groups do you know that give 2 and a half to 3 hr of music and give 100% effort EVERY TIME. I savor every minute of shows I go to . How long do you think they will keep going like this?. Thank you pearl jam for all the pleasure over the last 23 years!

Yes Way · October 2013

CC9172 wrote:

I posted the following in philly 2 review. Appreciate pj while they still tour. Been a fan since 94.

Spoiled Pearl jam fans! I was at 3 shows bklyn 1 philly 1 and 2 and loved all 3 . How many groups do you know that give 2 and a half to 3 hr of music and give 100% effort EVERY TIME. I savor every minute of shows I go to . How long do you think they will keep going like this?. Thank you pearl jam for all the pleasure over the last 23 years!

This X1,000

smanchac1 · October 2013

99 different songs played 8 shows in.

So I have to disagree!

I think that stat speaks for it self.

PJ_Soul · October 2013

Jimiaxplyr wrote:

It seems like everyone feels the same as me but maybe I have been going to too many. I have only been going to shows for 5 years but when I look back at old tours, it seems different? Is it just me?

Now, I only wish there was a way to donate 10c tix to someone who could use them. There is no way to get my tix into the wishlist foundation or something right?

Thanks guys for the responses and advice.

Yeah, it would be really great if they would figure out a system for giving 10C ticket ownership to other 10C members. It wouldn't be that hard, so I don't get why they don't allow it (although I don't think it would work for wishlist foundation pre-party raffles, if that's what you were thinking, because that would be too short notice for 10C to transfer ownership to another specific person...).

Chrispj09 · October 2013

I've seen them 24 times and I use to listen to bootlegs all the time. So a lot of the songs don't have the same feel like they use to.

ldent42 · October 2013

I think it all depends on you. No shows are 'necessary' per se, but have you ever been to a show that was not enjoyable? Looking at a show's setlist on paper doesn't always do it justice, in my opinion there are several contributing factors to make or break a great show experience. If you have shitty seats, or you are stuck next to unpleasant people for the duration of the show, or if you were stuck in traffic/stuck on a merch line, had someone spill something on you, etc. can ruin the experience for you even if the setlist was ideal.

I was a little bit worried about PJ overload because I was at Wrigley, both Brooklyn shows, I'm going to Hartford, and then 4 of the BDO dates in January. That's 8 shows in 7 months, but I am still distracted as fuck with excitement for Hartford on Friday, because each experience is different. There are some really interesting setlists so far and there is obviously an emphasis on the songs from the new album but there's some really good rarities and sing-along favorites getting mixed in as well.

If you are burnt out on shows maybe just wait for the boots to come out?