I think people arrested due to gang activity should get like 50 years in prison or more. Extreme, yes, but it may divert teens from becoming part of something that could land them in jail for most of their life. People arrested for gang violence now get off too easy. Make simple things (that are gang related) automatic many years in jail.
also, once many land in prison they unite w/ a gang & quite often it is to be in bigger numbers of their people as well as for protection, drugs avalibility & so on.
I think people arrested due to gang activity should get like 50 years in prison or more. Extreme, yes, but it may divert teens from becoming part of something that could land them in jail for most of their life. People arrested for gang violence now get off too easy. Make simple things (that are gang related) automatic many years in jail.
...if this happens - then the uproar will be about the disproportionate amount of blacks in custody.
Off topic...sebastion janokowski is durable.
live and let live...unless it violates the pearligious doctrine.
I think people arrested due to gang activity should get like 50 years in prison or more. Extreme, yes, but it may divert teens from becoming part of something that could land them in jail for most of their life. People arrested for gang violence now get off too easy. Make simple things (that are gang related) automatic many years in jail.
Problem is, you already have a very large number of people in jail. If you're going to implement policies like that, you either need to start spending a lot more money on prisons, or letting a lot of other people out.
by fife .....really that was your 1st thought? my first thought was wow a child got killed by a person with a gun. also before you heard that obama was a community org. did you even know what it was. do you even know today what they do?
being a mother ....Yes my first thought was about the poor child and my second thought was why was this child out this late at night. Then I just figured it was gang related, later found out to be true. So now I feel bad that the childs mother (I guess a teenager from a shit home...just guessing) was hanging out with gangs....not a good outing anytime especially with a child...
I know that there are many people involved (or had been involved )with community organizers (in Chicago) that made big bucks, and others in jail due to corruption.
there has been much money that could go towards helping these parents...but the corruption has sucked it all away from these people
so your your second thought was why was the child out and not why can't we fix this gun issue? here is a question, at what thought were you thinking about the person shooting and the guns? was it the 3rd, 4th, 5th thought?
by fife .....really that was your 1st thought? my first thought was wow a child got killed by a person with a gun. also before you heard that obama was a community org. did you even know what it was. do you even know today what they do?
as a chicago resident, yes... my first thought was why the hell is this 3 year old out that late at night in a gang ridden neighborhood.
it's no secret that the south side of this city is a cesspool, and there are MANY chicago shooting stories that grab national headlines and MANY that do not. there has been plenty of young kids hit by stray bullets late at night in recent memory (2013) that only made the local tabloids and were not escalated up on a national news level.
so yeah... when it's that common of an occurrence, what person dares go outside that late at night with gang members loitering around, let alone allow their children outside as well?
So the kid can't sleep, let's bring him/her to the park?
as a parent, you do whatever you need to do to get your kid to sleep. walk around with them in the house, put them in the car and drive around, or maybe a walk to the park.
it boggles my mind that people are defending the notion that the parent that was accompanying the child at the park is to blame for them getting shot by a lowlife. :fp:
it's not like this was a 9 year old kid being taken to the fucking liquor mart or to the drug dealer. this was a public park barely after the sun went down.
The parent was 100% to blame. The argument between the two of you is hilarious. You do realize that this was not the Griswolds who wandered into a park in hopes of getting their kid to sleep. I'll bet my house on it, that the boy who was shot had a father, mother, uncle, cousin or even worse a grandfather that is/was associated with the gang. It was no accidental shooting here. The gunman was shooting at members of a rival gang, not parents trying to walk their child to sleep. Its extremely heartbreaking that a 3 year old was shot. Its also extremely idiotic to think he was just out there due to a weird sleep habit.
by fife .....really that was your 1st thought? my first thought was wow a child got killed by a person with a gun. also before you heard that obama was a community org. did you even know what it was. do you even know today what they do?
as a chicago resident, yes... my first thought was why the hell is this 3 year old out that late at night in a gang ridden neighborhood.
it's no secret that the south side of this city is a cesspool, and there are MANY chicago shooting stories that grab national headlines and MANY that do not. there has been plenty of young kids hit by stray bullets late at night in recent memory (2013) that only made the local tabloids and were not escalated up on a national news level.
so yeah... when it's that common of an occurrence, what person dares go outside that late at night with gang members loitering around, let alone allow their children outside as well?
I think this could be classified as a poor parenting move, but who's to say without all the details?
The bottom line though, is that regardless of whether a young child was out too late or not... getting shot should not be an outcome for being out. Hide in your houses after dark? This is the solution?
This is skirting the issue: guns are a problem. They are too easy to get. They are too affordable. And they become a tool that many reach for when looking to solve problems. They are too deadly and the result of their work is most often irreparable.
So the kid can't sleep, let's bring him/her to the park?
as a parent, you do whatever you need to do to get your kid to sleep. walk around with them in the house, put them in the car and drive around, or maybe a walk to the park.
it boggles my mind that people are defending the notion that the parent that was accompanying the child at the park is to blame for them getting shot by a lowlife. :fp:
it's not like this was a 9 year old kid being taken to the fucking liquor mart or to the drug dealer. this was a public park barely after the sun went down.
The parent was 100% to blame. The argument between the two of you is hilarious. You do realize that this was not the Griswolds who wandered into a park in hopes of getting their kid to sleep. I'll bet my house on it, that the boy who was shot had a father, mother, uncle, cousin or even worse a grandfather that is/was associated with the gang. It was no accidental shooting here. The gunman was shooting at members of a rival gang, not parents trying to walk their child to sleep. Its extremely heartbreaking that a 3 year old was shot. Its also extremely idiotic to think he was just out there due to a weird sleep habit.
parents 100% to blame? no blame for the person shooting? you are assuming alot of things in this post. did you read the story in the 1st page? this was a drive by shoot not target practice. in a drive by bullies go everywhere so you cant assume that this family has anything to do with gangs.
by fife .....really that was your 1st thought? my first thought was wow a child got killed by a person with a gun. also before you heard that obama was a community org. did you even know what it was. do you even know today what they do?
as a chicago resident, yes... my first thought was why the hell is this 3 year old out that late at night in a gang ridden neighborhood.
it's no secret that the south side of this city is a cesspool, and there are MANY chicago shooting stories that grab national headlines and MANY that do not. there has been plenty of young kids hit by stray bullets late at night in recent memory (2013) that only made the local tabloids and were not escalated up on a national news level.
so yeah... when it's that common of an occurrence, what person dares go outside that late at night with gang members loitering around, let alone allow their children outside as well?
I think this could be classified as a poor parenting move, but who's to say without all the details?
The bottom line though, is that regardless of whether a young child was out too late or not... getting shot should not be an outcome for being out. Hide in your houses after dark? This is the solution?
This is skirting the issue: guns are a problem. They are too easy to get. They are too affordable. And they become a tool that many reach for when looking to solve problems. They are too deadly and the result of their work is most often irreparable.
my girlfriend is a chicago public school teacher in the roseland neighborhood of the southside which is notorious for being one of the more dangerous neighborhoods in all of the city (99% poverty rate). she has had a couple classroom aides that live in that very neighborhood and they do NOT go outside after a certain hour. the risks are far too great.
it’s such a shitty way for the handful of good people that are literally stuck living in these neighborhoods, trying to make a living for themselves to just live their lives, but that is kind of a common sense mentality for these residents (go out past a certain hour and there WILL be trouble). i am with everyone regarding the gun/gang violence. and it’s insane that this all happens too frequently that many chicago residence’s initial reaction is about that child being outside and not the person holding the gun.
personally, i would love to see the national guard steam roll through these neighborhoods driving these lowlifes out.
The parent was 100% to blame. The argument between the two of you is hilarious. You do realize that this was not the Griswolds who wandered into a park in hopes of getting their kid to sleep. I'll bet my house on it, that the boy who was shot had a father, mother, uncle, cousin or even worse a grandfather that is/was associated with the gang. It was no accidental shooting here. The gunman was shooting at members of a rival gang, not parents trying to walk their child to sleep. Its extremely heartbreaking that a 3 year old was shot. Its also extremely idiotic to think he was just out there due to a weird sleep habit.[/quote]
parents 100% to blame? no blame for the person shooting? you are assuming alot of things in this post. did you read the story in the 1st page? this was a drive by shoot not target practice. in a drive by bullies go everywhere so you cant assume that this family has anything to do with gangs.[/quote]
Ok, I'll give the gunmen a bit of the blame. I live in Chicago, come on down and we'll drive on over to the park where this happened and you will see that no child at the age of 3 should have been there. Believe me, I am for sure the child is innocent. Wake up though. I am not a gang banger, you are not a gang banger. Do you take your three year old to the park at 10:30 if there is even a 1% chance a gang banger could be there, in this neighborhood. Stop with the excuses. Yes a gun was fired, yes guns are the problem, BUT THE PARENT IS TO BLAME FOR PUTTING THEIR CHILD IN THAT SITUATION!
I think people arrested due to gang activity should get like 50 years in prison or more. Extreme, yes, but it may divert teens from becoming part of something that could land them in jail for most of their life. People arrested for gang violence now get off too easy. Make simple things (that are gang related) automatic many years in jail.
Jail their parents. That might actually do something.
The only people we should try to get even with...
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
I think people arrested due to gang activity should get like 50 years in prison or more. Extreme, yes, but it may divert teens from becoming part of something that could land them in jail for most of their life. People arrested for gang violence now get off too easy. Make simple things (that are gang related) automatic many years in jail.
Jail their parents. That might actually do something.
Most of the parents are involved in the gangs as well.....
The parent was 100% to blame. The argument between the two of you is hilarious. You do realize that this was not the Griswolds who wandered into a park in hopes of getting their kid to sleep. I'll bet my house on it, that the boy who was shot had a father, mother, uncle, cousin or even worse a grandfather that is/was associated with the gang. It was no accidental shooting here. The gunman was shooting at members of a rival gang, not parents trying to walk their child to sleep. Its extremely heartbreaking that a 3 year old was shot. Its also extremely idiotic to think he was just out there due to a weird sleep habit.
100% to blame. so the parent killed their child with a gun that they didn't fire. interesting take on things.
and listing a few possibilities on why ANY child that age might be out at that time of night instead of jumping to unfounded conclusions is "extremely idiotic". also an interesting take on things.
you must be a riot at parties.
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The parent was 100% to blame. The argument between the two of you is hilarious. You do realize that this was not the Griswolds who wandered into a park in hopes of getting their kid to sleep. I'll bet my house on it, that the boy who was shot had a father, mother, uncle, cousin or even worse a grandfather that is/was associated with the gang. It was no accidental shooting here. The gunman was shooting at members of a rival gang, not parents trying to walk their child to sleep. Its extremely heartbreaking that a 3 year old was shot. Its also extremely idiotic to think he was just out there due to a weird sleep habit.
100% to blame. so the parent killed their child with a gun that they didn't fire. interesting take on things.
and listing a few possibilities on why ANY child that age might be out at that time of night instead of jumping to unfounded conclusions is "extremely idiotic". also an interesting take on things.
you must be a riot at parties.
I changed my mind and gave the shooter some blame too.....
Bring your kids and family down here to Chicago and I'll drop you off at this park when your little one can't sleep......I'm sure nothing could go wrong.
I changed my mind and gave the shooter some blame too.....
Bring your kids and family down here to Chicago and I'll drop you off at this park when your little one can't sleep......I'm sure nothing could go wrong.
where did I say it was a good idea to go to this park at this time of night? I didn't. All I said was you can't blame a victim for getting shot. EVER. Poor decision? Maybe. But going to so far as to say it's their FAULT for getting shot it outrageous. That's no different than saying a girl was at fault for getting raped because she wore a short skirt.
Gimli 1993
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
The parent was 100% to blame. The argument between the two of you is hilarious. You do realize that this was not the Griswolds who wandered into a park in hopes of getting their kid to sleep. I'll bet my house on it, that the boy who was shot had a father, mother, uncle, cousin or even worse a grandfather that is/was associated with the gang. It was no accidental shooting here. The gunman was shooting at members of a rival gang, not parents trying to walk their child to sleep. Its extremely heartbreaking that a 3 year old was shot. Its also extremely idiotic to think he was just out there due to a weird sleep habit.
100% to blame. so the parent killed their child with a gun that they didn't fire. interesting take on things.
and listing a few possibilities on why ANY child that age might be out at that time of night instead of jumping to unfounded conclusions is "extremely idiotic". also an interesting take on things.
you must be a riot at parties.
Don't you wonder why you haven't heard from this boys parents? THEY ARE GANG BANGERS AND ARE PLANNING REVENGE!
I changed my mind and gave the shooter some blame too.....
Bring your kids and family down here to Chicago and I'll drop you off at this park when your little one can't sleep......I'm sure nothing could go wrong.
where did I say it was a good idea to go to this park at this time of night? I didn't. All I said was you can't blame a victim for getting shot. EVER. Poor decision? Maybe. But going to so far as to say it's their FAULT for getting shot it outrageous. That's no different than saying a girl was at fault for getting raped because she wore a short skirt.
Where you live, where I live sure we don't expect to get shot or caught in gang fire. Perhaps its not clear to everyone where this took place. A three year old had no business being there, with gang bangers, at night. Parents fault, it sucks but it is the parents fault. Shooter was wrong as well.....
Ok, I'll give the gunmen a bit of the blame. I live in Chicago, come on down and we'll drive on over to the park where this happened and you will see that no child at the age of 3 should have been there. Believe me, I am for sure the child is innocent. Wake up though. I am not a gang banger, you are not a gang banger. Do you take your three year old to the park at 10:30 if there is even a 1% chance a gang banger could be there, in this neighborhood. Stop with the excuses. Yes a gun was fired, yes guns are the problem, BUT THE PARENT IS TO BLAME FOR PUTTING THEIR CHILD IN THAT SITUATION!
don't get me wrong, I am not saying that this parent is going to win any awards for parenting but look at all these posts that people are just blaming the parent and not the shooter or the guns.
I 1st blame the shooter for doing the actual shooting. next i blame the parent for having a child out that late (when i say second i put like 2% of the blame for the parent.)
I changed my mind and gave the shooter some blame too.....
Bring your kids and family down here to Chicago and I'll drop you off at this park when your little one can't sleep......I'm sure nothing could go wrong.
where did I say it was a good idea to go to this park at this time of night? I didn't. All I said was you can't blame a victim for getting shot. EVER. Poor decision? Maybe. But going to so far as to say it's their FAULT for getting shot it outrageous. That's no different than saying a girl was at fault for getting raped because she wore a short skirt.
If a father dressed his daughter in a short skirt, paraded her in front of convicted rapists, turned his back........who should get most of the blame. Parent brings his three year old to a park of gang bangers, past dark, lets him wander the basketball court, he gets shot.......who should get most of the blame.
I changed my mind and gave the shooter some blame too.....
Bring your kids and family down here to Chicago and I'll drop you off at this park when your little one can't sleep......I'm sure nothing could go wrong.
where did I say it was a good idea to go to this park at this time of night? I didn't. All I said was you can't blame a victim for getting shot. EVER. Poor decision? Maybe. But going to so far as to say it's their FAULT for getting shot it outrageous. That's no different than saying a girl was at fault for getting raped because she wore a short skirt.
If a father dressed his daughter in a short skirt, paraded her in front of convicted rapists, turned his back........who should get most of the blame. Parent brings his three year old to a park of gang bangers, past dark, lets him wander the basketball court, he gets shot.......who should get most of the blame.
I changed my mind and gave the shooter some blame too.....
Bring your kids and family down here to Chicago and I'll drop you off at this park when your little one can't sleep......I'm sure nothing could go wrong.
where did I say it was a good idea to go to this park at this time of night? I didn't. All I said was you can't blame a victim for getting shot. EVER. Poor decision? Maybe. But going to so far as to say it's their FAULT for getting shot it outrageous. That's no different than saying a girl was at fault for getting raped because she wore a short skirt.
If a father dressed his daughter in a short skirt, paraded her in front of convicted rapists, turned his back........who should get most of the blame. Parent brings his three year old to a park of gang bangers, past dark, lets him wander the basketball court, he gets shot.......who should get most of the blame.
WOW! have you ever met a person who has been raped? It is post like this that explains why many people have a hard time reporting rapes.
WOW! have you ever met a person who has been raped? It is post like this that explains why many people have a hard time reporting rapes.
You do realize the answer to my question is...
A. The Father/Parent
and you would be wrong. the rapist is the person to blame first and foremost. you know the person who actually committed the crime.
I know this sounds tricky but believe me its true.[/quote]
YOURE TELLING ME IF A DAD DRESSED HIS DAUGHTER UP AND PUT HER IN THAT SITUATION HE DESERVES NO BLAME. OF COURSE THE RAPIST IS TO BLAME AS WELL! BUT NO BLAME FOR THE FATHER!!!!!!
WOW! have you ever met a person who has been raped? It is post like this that explains why many people have a hard time reporting rapes.
You do realize the answer to my question is...
A. The Father/Parent
and you would be wrong. the rapist is the person to blame first and foremost. you know the person who actually committed the crime.
I know this sounds tricky but believe me its true.
YOURE TELLING ME IF A DAD DRESSED HIS DAUGHTER UP AND PUT HER IN THAT SITUATION HE DESERVES NO BLAME. OF COURSE THE RAPIST IS TO BLAME AS WELL! BUT NO BLAME FOR THE FATHER!!!!!![/quote]
What planet are you from?
The dad can be accused of making poor parental choices just as the parents in question can be; but the crime is 100% the responsibility of the person who committed it. Get real, man. Geezuz.
YOURE TELLING ME IF A DAD DRESSED HIS DAUGHTER UP AND PUT HER IN THAT SITUATION HE DESERVES NO BLAME. OF COURSE THE RAPIST IS TO BLAME AS WELL! BUT NO BLAME FOR THE FATHER!!!!!![/quote]
What planet are you from?
The dad can be accused of making poor parental choices just as the parents in question can be; but the crime is 100% the responsibility of the person who committed it. Get real, man. Geezuz.[/quote]
Im not saying anywhere that parent committed a crime. What I'm trying to get across to everyone is that accountability needs to be taken here. The parents are not guilty of shooting the three year old, they are accountable for his/her whereabouts and well being. Its called parenting. And if your put your child in a gangbanging situation or a rape situation, you should be held accountable as well.
YOURE TELLING ME IF A DAD DRESSED HIS DAUGHTER UP AND PUT HER IN THAT SITUATION HE DESERVES NO BLAME. OF COURSE THE RAPIST IS TO BLAME AS WELL! BUT NO BLAME FOR THE FATHER!!!!!!
did i say that? look up and read. the person who is the most to blame is the shooter not the parent. by blaming the father in your stupid rape story or the parent in this actual story is stupid. the person with the gun who shot the kid is the person to blame.
as i wrote above, the parent is not going to win any parenting awards but the blame for the shooting goes to the shooter.
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...if this happens - then the uproar will be about the disproportionate amount of blacks in custody.
Off topic...sebastion janokowski is durable.
Problem is, you already have a very large number of people in jail. If you're going to implement policies like that, you either need to start spending a lot more money on prisons, or letting a lot of other people out.
so your your second thought was why was the child out and not why can't we fix this gun issue? here is a question, at what thought were you thinking about the person shooting and the guns? was it the 3rd, 4th, 5th thought?
as a chicago resident, yes... my first thought was why the hell is this 3 year old out that late at night in a gang ridden neighborhood.
it's no secret that the south side of this city is a cesspool, and there are MANY chicago shooting stories that grab national headlines and MANY that do not. there has been plenty of young kids hit by stray bullets late at night in recent memory (2013) that only made the local tabloids and were not escalated up on a national news level.
so yeah... when it's that common of an occurrence, what person dares go outside that late at night with gang members loitering around, let alone allow their children outside as well?
The parent was 100% to blame. The argument between the two of you is hilarious. You do realize that this was not the Griswolds who wandered into a park in hopes of getting their kid to sleep. I'll bet my house on it, that the boy who was shot had a father, mother, uncle, cousin or even worse a grandfather that is/was associated with the gang. It was no accidental shooting here. The gunman was shooting at members of a rival gang, not parents trying to walk their child to sleep. Its extremely heartbreaking that a 3 year old was shot. Its also extremely idiotic to think he was just out there due to a weird sleep habit.
I think this could be classified as a poor parenting move, but who's to say without all the details?
The bottom line though, is that regardless of whether a young child was out too late or not... getting shot should not be an outcome for being out. Hide in your houses after dark? This is the solution?
This is skirting the issue: guns are a problem. They are too easy to get. They are too affordable. And they become a tool that many reach for when looking to solve problems. They are too deadly and the result of their work is most often irreparable.
parents 100% to blame? no blame for the person shooting? you are assuming alot of things in this post. did you read the story in the 1st page? this was a drive by shoot not target practice. in a drive by bullies go everywhere so you cant assume that this family has anything to do with gangs.
my girlfriend is a chicago public school teacher in the roseland neighborhood of the southside which is notorious for being one of the more dangerous neighborhoods in all of the city (99% poverty rate). she has had a couple classroom aides that live in that very neighborhood and they do NOT go outside after a certain hour. the risks are far too great.
it’s such a shitty way for the handful of good people that are literally stuck living in these neighborhoods, trying to make a living for themselves to just live their lives, but that is kind of a common sense mentality for these residents (go out past a certain hour and there WILL be trouble). i am with everyone regarding the gun/gang violence. and it’s insane that this all happens too frequently that many chicago residence’s initial reaction is about that child being outside and not the person holding the gun.
personally, i would love to see the national guard steam roll through these neighborhoods driving these lowlifes out.
http://crime.chicagotribune.com/chicago ... y/roseland
parents 100% to blame? no blame for the person shooting? you are assuming alot of things in this post. did you read the story in the 1st page? this was a drive by shoot not target practice. in a drive by bullies go everywhere so you cant assume that this family has anything to do with gangs.[/quote]
Ok, I'll give the gunmen a bit of the blame. I live in Chicago, come on down and we'll drive on over to the park where this happened and you will see that no child at the age of 3 should have been there. Believe me, I am for sure the child is innocent. Wake up though. I am not a gang banger, you are not a gang banger. Do you take your three year old to the park at 10:30 if there is even a 1% chance a gang banger could be there, in this neighborhood. Stop with the excuses. Yes a gun was fired, yes guns are the problem, BUT THE PARENT IS TO BLAME FOR PUTTING THEIR CHILD IN THAT SITUATION!
Jail their parents. That might actually do something.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
Most of the parents are involved in the gangs as well.....
100% to blame. so the parent killed their child with a gun that they didn't fire. interesting take on things.
and listing a few possibilities on why ANY child that age might be out at that time of night instead of jumping to unfounded conclusions is "extremely idiotic". also an interesting take on things.
you must be a riot at parties.
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
I changed my mind and gave the shooter some blame too.....
Bring your kids and family down here to Chicago and I'll drop you off at this park when your little one can't sleep......I'm sure nothing could go wrong.
where did I say it was a good idea to go to this park at this time of night? I didn't. All I said was you can't blame a victim for getting shot. EVER. Poor decision? Maybe. But going to so far as to say it's their FAULT for getting shot it outrageous. That's no different than saying a girl was at fault for getting raped because she wore a short skirt.
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
Don't you wonder why you haven't heard from this boys parents? THEY ARE GANG BANGERS AND ARE PLANNING REVENGE!
Where you live, where I live sure we don't expect to get shot or caught in gang fire. Perhaps its not clear to everyone where this took place. A three year old had no business being there, with gang bangers, at night. Parents fault, it sucks but it is the parents fault. Shooter was wrong as well.....
don't get me wrong, I am not saying that this parent is going to win any awards for parenting but look at all these posts that people are just blaming the parent and not the shooter or the guns.
I 1st blame the shooter for doing the actual shooting. next i blame the parent for having a child out that late (when i say second i put like 2% of the blame for the parent.)
If a father dressed his daughter in a short skirt, paraded her in front of convicted rapists, turned his back........who should get most of the blame. Parent brings his three year old to a park of gang bangers, past dark, lets him wander the basketball court, he gets shot.......who should get most of the blame.
dude. stop using logic.
WOW! have you ever met a person who has been raped? It is post like this that explains why many people have a hard time reporting rapes.
You do realize the answer to my question is...
A. The Father/Parent/Rapist
Not the girl
You do realize the answer to my question is...
A. The Father/Parent[/quote]
and you would be wrong. the rapist is the person to blame first and foremost. you know the person who actually committed the crime.
I know this sounds tricky but believe me its true.
and you would be wrong. the rapist is the person to blame first and foremost. you know the person who actually committed the crime.
I know this sounds tricky but believe me its true.[/quote]
YOURE TELLING ME IF A DAD DRESSED HIS DAUGHTER UP AND PUT HER IN THAT SITUATION HE DESERVES NO BLAME. OF COURSE THE RAPIST IS TO BLAME AS WELL! BUT NO BLAME FOR THE FATHER!!!!!!
YOURE TELLING ME IF A DAD DRESSED HIS DAUGHTER UP AND PUT HER IN THAT SITUATION HE DESERVES NO BLAME. OF COURSE THE RAPIST IS TO BLAME AS WELL! BUT NO BLAME FOR THE FATHER!!!!!![/quote]
What planet are you from?
The dad can be accused of making poor parental choices just as the parents in question can be; but the crime is 100% the responsibility of the person who committed it. Get real, man. Geezuz.
and you would be wrong. the rapist is the person to blame first and foremost. you know the person who actually committed the crime.
I know this sounds tricky but believe me its true.[/quote]
Your quote left out my Rapist part of the answer.....
What planet are you from?
The dad can be accused of making poor parental choices just as the parents in question can be; but the crime is 100% the responsibility of the person who committed it. Get real, man. Geezuz.[/quote]
Im not saying anywhere that parent committed a crime. What I'm trying to get across to everyone is that accountability needs to be taken here. The parents are not guilty of shooting the three year old, they are accountable for his/her whereabouts and well being. Its called parenting. And if your put your child in a gangbanging situation or a rape situation, you should be held accountable as well.
did i say that? look up and read. the person who is the most to blame is the shooter not the parent. by blaming the father in your stupid rape story or the parent in this actual story is stupid. the person with the gun who shot the kid is the person to blame.
as i wrote above, the parent is not going to win any parenting awards but the blame for the shooting goes to the shooter.