Chicago shooting sees 13 people injured at park

unsung

Why should I care when the politicians of that shithole city don't?

Let it burn to the ground.

JimmyV

unsung wrote:

Why should I care when the politicians of that shithole city don't?

Let it burn to the ground.

God help us all if the Libertarians ever do win a national election.

A three year old was shot. We should all care.

gimmesometruth27

JimmyV wrote:

unsung wrote:

Why should I care when the politicians of that shithole city don't?

Let it burn to the ground.

God help us all if the Libertarians ever do win a national election.

A three year old was shot. We should all care.

it's not MY 3 year old, so i don't care.






:P

mickeyrat

unsung wrote:

fife wrote:

your biggest problem is that you have people who don't care about others and you glady give them GUNS.

Completely untrue. Do you actually believe these animals acquire these firearms through legitimate transactions?

sure they come to my state that has some of the least restrictive laws on the books. Guns, which have been painstakingly traced to violent crime across the country.

Why, there is a failed mall that somehow stays open. I think its because of the guns shows held there every three months.

IN FACT there was a COP arrested for selling guns of of his fucking trunk.

My view is from the governor of my state to every member of the state house and state senate needs charged for every single act of crime using a gun traced to my state as accesories BEFORE the fact.

fife

unsung wrote:

Why should I care when the politicians of that shithole city don't?

Let it burn to the ground.

just a question know1, is this what you mean when you say that people don't care about others?

using this logic unsung, why should anyone care about the debt ceiling when the politicians don't?

ledvedderman

unsung wrote:

Why should I care when the politicians of that shithole city don't?

Let it burn to the ground.

Until you know those politicians of that "shithole" city, maybe you should just keep it to yourself. I work with them everyday in Springfield and they are good people. To say that they don't care is absolutely careless and arrogant.

Moonpig

unsung wrote:

It's hilarious.

Keep blaming an object. Don't focus on the issue.

A three year old out at 10:15pm on a weeknight. Yeah, it's the gun's fault.

Good point, clearly it was the three year old's. stupid child getting in the way of them bullets. The level of debate really is circeling the drain.

Moonpig

goingtoverona wrote:

great point, the world is getting smaller and smaller thanks to technology, and why do we hear about it so much? because that's what the people want, the same reason they rubberneck during traffic accidents. people want to see blood and gore, so that's what the media gives us. what's disturbing and sad to think about is all the repugnant shit going on that we don't hear about. although if I heard about every disturbing inhumane thing people did on this planet, I would have to quit looking at news all together.

Pingfah wrote:

Society has not gone off the rails, that's alarmist and untrue. It is a fact that the rate of violent crime in the US has been dropping year on year for the last 2 decades and shows no sign of abating.

Communication, on the other hand, has vastly improved over the same time period, meaning we all hear about all the awful things going on in the world much more often. That gives some people the impression that society is collapsing. It is simply not true though.

Love the avoidance. "Nothing to see here"

unsung

ledvedderman wrote:

unsung wrote:

Why should I care when the politicians of that shithole city don't?

Let it burn to the ground.

Until you know those politicians of that "shithole" city, maybe you should just keep it to yourself. I work with them everyday in Springfield and they are good people. To say that they don't care is absolutely careless and arrogant.

I stand by my statement. They are ignorant and crooked beyond belief. They have failed the people of this state and they have turned it into an embarrassment.

unsung

Moonpig wrote:

unsung wrote:

It's hilarious.

Keep blaming an object. Don't focus on the issue.

A three year old out at 10:15pm on a weeknight. Yeah, it's the gun's fault.

Good point, clearly it was the three year old's. stupid child getting in the way of them bullets. The level of debate really is circeling the drain.

Poor parentage. There's no three year old that should be out in that filth crime ridden part of the city at that time of night.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

unsung wrote:

It's hilarious.

Keep blaming an object. Don't focus on the issue.

A three year old out at 10:15pm on a weeknight. Yeah, it's the gun's fault.

many kids that age sometimes can't sleep. or have odd sleep patterns. that isn't unusual at all. blaming the victim is atrocious.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

unsung wrote:

Moonpig wrote:

unsung wrote:

It's hilarious.

Keep blaming an object. Don't focus on the issue.

A three year old out at 10:15pm on a weeknight. Yeah, it's the gun's fault.

Good point, clearly it was the three year old's. stupid child getting in the way of them bullets. The level of debate really is circeling the drain.

Poor parentage. There's no three year old that should be out in that filth crime ridden part of the city at that time of night.

so you are pro curfew? what about those freedoms you constantly blather on about?

unsung

I'm pro good parenting.

Dirtie_Frank

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

unsung wrote:

It's hilarious.

Keep blaming an object. Don't focus on the issue.

A three year old out at 10:15pm on a weeknight. Yeah, it's the gun's fault.

many kids that age sometimes can't sleep. or have odd sleep patterns. that isn't unusual at all. blaming the victim is atrocious.

So the kid can't sleep, let's bring him/her to the park?

Hugh Freaking Dillon

unsung wrote:

I'm pro good parenting.

and good parenting to you equals being responsible for you child getting shot? gimme a break dude, you're really stretching in your argument that guns aren't a problem in america.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

Dirtie_Frank wrote:

So the kid can't sleep, let's bring him/her to the park?

as a parent, you do whatever you need to do to get your kid to sleep. walk around with them in the house, put them in the car and drive around, or maybe a walk to the park.

it boggles my mind that people are defending the notion that the parent that was accompanying the child at the park is to blame for them getting shot by a lowlife. :fp:

it's not like this was a 9 year old kid being taken to the fucking liquor mart or to the drug dealer. this was a public park barely after the sun went down.

Pingfah

Moonpig wrote:

goingtoverona wrote:

great point, the world is getting smaller and smaller thanks to technology, and why do we hear about it so much? because that's what the people want, the same reason they rubberneck during traffic accidents. people want to see blood and gore, so that's what the media gives us. what's disturbing and sad to think about is all the repugnant shit going on that we don't hear about. although if I heard about every disturbing inhumane thing people did on this planet, I would have to quit looking at news all together.

Pingfah wrote:

Society has not gone off the rails, that's alarmist and untrue. It is a fact that the rate of violent crime in the US has been dropping year on year for the last 2 decades and shows no sign of abating.

Communication, on the other hand, has vastly improved over the same time period, meaning we all hear about all the awful things going on in the world much more often. That gives some people the impression that society is collapsing. It is simply not true though.

Love the avoidance. "Nothing to see here"

Presumptuous nonsense, I am not avoiding anything, I responded directly to an untrue alarmist claim with a fact.

I have said nothing to take away from the fact that Chicago has serious problems, and have not suggested that gun violence does not need to be addressed. I just don't think that making wildeyed claims about the collapse of society is a helpful way to approach it. The facts simply don't support that view.

I'm sorry if reason and objectivity offends you.

Moonpig

unsung wrote:

Moonpig wrote:

unsung wrote:

It's hilarious.

Keep blaming an object. Don't focus on the issue.

A three year old out at 10:15pm on a weeknight. Yeah, it's the gun's fault.

Good point, clearly it was the three year old's. stupid child getting in the way of them bullets. The level of debate really is circeling the drain.

Poor parentage. There's no three year old that should be out in that filth crime ridden part of the city at that time of night.

Wow case closed I suppose, thanks Matlock

josevolution

Yeah in Suburbia where i live you don't see 3yr olds out at that time of night but in the hood the kids are out all kinds of hr's ...That's just the way it is it comes down to poor supervision ...

mickeyrat

josevolution wrote:

Yeah in Suburbia where i live you don't see 3yr olds out at that time of night but in the hood the kids are out all kinds of hr's ...That's just the way it is it comes down to poor supervision ...

I also highly doubt the 3 yr old was out by himself.

For all we know that familes power was out and was too hot inside. Anythings possible.

The heart of the issue is two fold. easy access to lethal weapons whos ONLY purpose is to maim and kill coupled with a populace so on the edge that human life has little to no value.

I think a particular mindset needs to change in the poorer communities that have a gang presence. It is not acceptable to spray bullets indiscriminantly period.