my head is around it. if it happens i do not care. i'd also rather see/know it happens than not
child predators should actually be shot in the street
I pretty much agree and i rarely post in this place. Had to reply to this one though. It's not uncivilized or barbaric to share these views either. It's called being a parent. You protect your kids at all costs. That guy more than likely wouldve made a return trip. Probably become more brave too. He deserved a lot more than a beating.
Ive heard very similar local stories. In one of them after the parent admited that he beat the shit out of the guy the cop said "okay now write down the statement on how he tried to attack you" with a wink. That's justice right there.
no, it's not. it's fucking illegal and corrupt. cops don't get to choose who they protect. that's not the oath they take. "serve and protect those that I deem fit" is not how it reads. that fucker should be tossed in jail with the perv.
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my head is around it. if it happens i do not care. i'd also rather see/know it happens than not
child predators should actually be shot in the street
I pretty much agree and i rarely post in this place. Had to reply to this one though. It's not uncivilized or barbaric to share these views either. It's called being a parent. You protect your kids at all costs. That guy more than likely wouldve made a return trip. Probably become more brave too. He deserved a lot more than a beating.
Ive heard very similar local stories. In one of them after the parent admited that he beat the shit out of the guy the cop said "okay now write down the statement on how he tried to attack you" with a wink. That's justice right there.
thank you for your common sense approach to living this life. it is not that difficult to figure out.
the father did not act in self defense. from my understanding, his daughter was not, nor was any other member of his family, were in any immediate danger. all he had to do was take out his phone, snap a pic of the perv, shut the blinds, lock the doors, and call the cops.
beating the fuck out of him was not necessary. the guy was naked and OUTSIDE THE HOUSE WITH NO VISIBLE WEAPON.
unless he had some sort of concealed weapon. and if he did, I wanna know how/where he hid it.
some people and their lynch mob mentality.
it is no lynch mob at all. it is simply beating ass & taking names & letting the cops & judge sort it out. i guarantee you the father will not do any jail time & if he does he will be rewarded with donuts & coffee every single morning along with a steak dinner every evening or he could mix it up a bit & have donuts for dinner, maybe the fucker wants salads & freshly squeezed orange juice perpared by jail staff very excited to meet his requests.
snap a photo, shut the blinds & call the cops? wtf?
fuck that. this nude ass pervert deserves to bleed a bit to be broken of his disgusting hobby. this is a perfect example of how rural & small town midwest usa deals with bullshit like this. was this in a larger city? i have no idea. iowa operates just like this & it is quite comfortable
how do things work in canada? big city canada? small town/rural canada? where you located, hugh?
" On the other side of the equation, there is a father who's protective instincts kicked in and likely overrode any rational thinking at the time of the altercation. The mindset the father adopted was no fault of his[/i]- he was forced to respond in some capacity and it is us, from our safe little homes and outside the situation, weighing in on what we think.
this is the exact same reasoning I gave for the actions of Vince Li, yet you excuse this father, but want death for Vince Li.
Interesting indeed.
Yes. Yes... interesting indeed.
A father looking to protect his daughter and family developed the mindset that he challenged a pervert in the process of committing a crime.
comparable to:
A mentally ill guy developing a mindset to decapitate and mutilate some innocent kid as he slept on a bus and minded his own business.
the father did not act in self defense. from my understanding, his daughter was not, nor was any other member of his family, were in any immediate danger. all he had to do was take out his phone, snap a pic of the perv, shut the blinds, lock the doors, and call the cops.
beating the fuck out of him was not necessary. the guy was naked and OUTSIDE THE HOUSE WITH NO VISIBLE WEAPON.
unless he had some sort of concealed weapon. and if he did, I wanna know how/where he hid it.
some people and their lynch mob mentality.
Yah. Too bad we all couldn't be like you, Hugh.
"Daddy. There's a naked man outside my room looking at me."
Cue father entering bedroom who sees man, naked and masturbating while leering at young daughter.
"Go to bed, honey. Everything is fine." soothes the father as he gently closes the blinds, leaves the room to call the police, and pray for the soul of the pervert.
my head is around it. if it happens i do not care. i'd also rather see/know it happens than not
child predators should actually be shot in the street
I pretty much agree and i rarely post in this place. Had to reply to this one though. It's not uncivilized or barbaric to share these views either. It's called being a parent. You protect your kids at all costs. That guy more than likely wouldve made a return trip. Probably become more brave too. He deserved a lot more than a beating.
Ive heard very similar local stories. In one of them after the parent admited that he beat the shit out of the guy the cop said "okay now write down the statement on how he tried to attack you" with a wink. That's justice right there.
no, it's not. it's fucking illegal and corrupt. cops don't get to choose who they protect. that's not the oath they take. "serve and protect those that I deem fit" is not how it reads. that fucker should be tossed in jail with the perv.
Who should be tossed in jail with the perv (said like they are both equally as offensive)? The father or the police officer?
i am perplexed at the replies against the father as well as the replies against those of us who support his actions. it is throughly incredible
my open letter prayer to god, our universe...
"in my next life, god, the extreme master of the universe as the universe is god, please allow me to be a super vigilante as i dream of destroying child preditors, all sick fucks & islamic freaks who rape, torture & kill girls & women. it is my ultimate goal to become what hunts monsters down."
A father looking to protect his daughter and family developed the mindset that he challenged a pervert in the process of committing a crime.
comparable to:
A mentally ill guy developing a mindset to decapitate and mutilate some innocent kid as he slept on a bus and minded his own business.
Not the same thing. Not even close.
I didn't say they were. you were excusing a guy for "not being responsible for his actions" because of his supposed "mindset" during the crime. it's the exact same idea, just with obviously much different results.
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"Daddy. There's a naked man outside my room looking at me."
Cue father entering bedroom who sees man, naked and masturbating while leering at young daughter.
"Go to bed, honey. Everything is fine." soothes the father as he gently closes the blinds, leaves the room to call the police, and pray for the soul of the pervert.
Poor poor guy who got beat up.
you know, you blathered on and on about how Byrnzie picked on poor thirty bills in the death penalty thread, and here you are insulting me the same way.
if you can't keep it adult, then stop posting.
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"Daddy. There's a naked man outside my room looking at me."
Cue father entering bedroom who sees man, naked and masturbating while leering at young daughter.
"Go to bed, honey. Everything is fine." soothes the father as he gently closes the blinds, leaves the room to call the police, and pray for the soul of the pervert.
Poor poor guy who got beat up.
you know, you blathered on and on about how Byrnzie picked on poor thirty bills in the death penalty thread, and here you are insulting me the same way.
if you can't keep it adult, then stop posting.
for your information, sir, this is an all ages forum. both adults & young people may post here
i am perplexed at the replies against the father as well as the replies against those of us who support his actions. it is throughly incredible
it's called living in a civilized world.
horse shit. it's called protecting your loved ones & beating a freaks naked ass.
so you want to live in a world where cops are encouraged to assault people they believe deserve it? if one day they believe you deserve it, I'm pretty sure you'd change your tough guy tune.
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so you want to live in a world where cops are encouraged to assault people they believe deserve it? if one day they believe you deserve it, I'm pretty sure you'd change your tough guy tune.
but, hugh, im not a child predator
i do fully believe in with all my heart that cops, sheriff & state police can & should bust up child predators, rapists & monsters who harm women & children. if a pedophile is beat to death, i do not lose sleep, if a rapist nasty bastard is shot in the gutter & rots there i do not care.
"Daddy. There's a naked man outside my room looking at me."
Cue father entering bedroom who sees man, naked and masturbating while leering at young daughter.
"Go to bed, honey. Everything is fine." soothes the father as he gently closes the blinds, leaves the room to call the police, and pray for the soul of the pervert.
Poor poor guy who got beat up.
you know, you blathered on and on about how Byrnzie picked on poor thirty bills in the death penalty thread, and here you are insulting me the same way.
if you can't keep it adult, then stop posting.
Okay, fair enough. That was poor of me- although to be fair... you did make a rather backhanded comment about some people and their lynch mob mentality (I assumed I was part of this group you made reference to).
Here's my reworded post in adult-like fashion:
As a father, Hugh, I'm sure you can understand the fact that this was a challenging occurrence for this man to deal with. It's unfortunate that it resulted as it did, but I can't stress enough two things: first, the pervert created this whole situation with his lewd act; second, the father responded and for anyone to weigh in on how he should have responded do so from far away, the comfort of their couch, and outside the intensity of the moment.
Just imagine, and I mean really imagine, you coming to your daughter's window and seeing what that guy saw. Imagine what might go through your mind and the terror you might feel as the reality of the situation sinks in: a pervert has targeted your daughter and is fantasizing about her. If you can honestly say that you would calmly take a picture, phone the police, and then lock the doors and wait for the police to get there in 20/30/40 minutes (as if the guy was going to wait for them- leaving the pervert another day or two to do who knows what?)... I think you are kidding yourself. From some of your previous posts, I'm pretty sure your daughters have a more protective father than what you seemed to have suggested with your previous posts.
If this had happened to you and you had responded as this father did... I would be supporting you.
As a father, Hugh, I'm sure you can understand the fact that this was a challenging occurrence for this man to deal with. It's unfortunate that it resulted as it did, but I can't stress enough two things: first, the pervert created this whole situation with his lewd act; second, the father responded and for anyone to weigh in on how he should have responded do so from far away, the comfort of their couch, and outside the intensity of the moment.
Just imagine, and I mean really imagine, you coming to your daughter's window and seeing what that guy saw. Imagine what might go through your mind and the terror you might feel as the reality of the situation sinks in: a pervert has targeted your daughter and is fantasizing about her. If you can honestly say that you would calmly take a picture, phone the police, and then lock the doors and wait for the police to get there in 20/30/40 minutes (as if the guy was going to wait for them- leaving the pervert another day or two to do who knows what?)... I think you are kidding yourself. From some of your previous posts, I'm pretty sure your daughters have a more protective father than what you seemed to have suggested with your previous posts.
If this had happened to you and you had responded as this father did... I would be supporting you.
of course I'd be irate. and yes, I might do the same. I don't know. I don't justify things by way of how I'd react. if I did the same, I'd have to be prepared to face the same consequences.
the nude dude was of no immediate physical danger to anyone. there was absolutely no reason to beat the fuck out of him. subdue him? maybe, but that poses risks as well. THAT'S WHAT POLICE ARE FOR. it sounds to me that this was just a brutal one-sided pounding out of nothing more than anger and vengeance. where I'm from, if you call the police and tell them you have a crazy nude guy trying to break into your house, they'd be there in seconds. I'm getting tired of this old adage that cops take an hour to get to every call as a justification for taking the law into your own hands. it's simply not true.
I'm continually disturbed by the folks on here that seem, to me, to actually have a thirst for violence. Maybe it's somewhat justified by personal experience, but I have no such experience to draw from. and to go so far as to HOPE that cops get some shots in at criminals is incredibly disturbing.
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so you want to live in a world where cops are encouraged to assault people they believe deserve it? if one day they believe you deserve it, I'm pretty sure you'd change your tough guy tune.
but, hugh, im not a child predator
i do fully believe in with all my heart that cops, sheriff & state police can & should bust up child predators, rapists & monsters who harm women & children. if a pedophile is beat to death, i do not lose sleep, if a rapist nasty bastard is shot in the gutter & rots there i do not care.
im no tough guy, i am a realist
so you think that all cops would be right 100% of the time when they assault a "bad guy"? you are prepared to give them that kind of power? that's not being a realist. that's thinking you live in Gotham City and Batman always saves the day.
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As a father, Hugh, I'm sure you can understand the fact that this was a challenging occurrence for this man to deal with. It's unfortunate that it resulted as it did, but I can't stress enough two things: first, the pervert created this whole situation with his lewd act; second, the father responded and for anyone to weigh in on how he should have responded do so from far away, the comfort of their couch, and outside the intensity of the moment.
Just imagine, and I mean really imagine, you coming to your daughter's window and seeing what that guy saw. Imagine what might go through your mind and the terror you might feel as the reality of the situation sinks in: a pervert has targeted your daughter and is fantasizing about her. If you can honestly say that you would calmly take a picture, phone the police, and then lock the doors and wait for the police to get there in 20/30/40 minutes (as if the guy was going to wait for them- leaving the pervert another day or two to do who knows what?)... I think you are kidding yourself. From some of your previous posts, I'm pretty sure your daughters have a more protective father than what you seemed to have suggested with your previous posts.
If this had happened to you and you had responded as this father did... I would be supporting you.
of course I'd be irate. and yes, I might do the same. I don't know. I don't justify things by way of how I'd react. if I did the same, I'd have to be prepared to face the same consequences.
the nude dude was of no immediate physical danger to anyone. there was absolutely no reason to beat the fuck out of him. subdue him? maybe, but that poses risks as well. THAT'S WHAT POLICE ARE FOR. it sounds to me that this was just a brutal one-sided pounding out of nothing more than anger and vengeance. where I'm from, if you call the police and tell them you have a crazy nude guy trying to break into your house, they'd be there in seconds. I'm getting tired of this old adage that cops take an hour to get to every call as a justification for taking the law into your own hands. it's simply not true.
I'm continually disturbed by the folks on here that seem, to me, to actually have a thirst for violence. Maybe it's somewhat justified by personal experience, but I have no such experience to draw from. and to go so far as to HOPE that cops get some shots in at criminals is incredibly disturbing.
Now you are the one going way up the ladder of inference.
Just because members of this community fully understand why the father acted as he did and support him as he faces charges for dealing with the situation as he did... this doesn't mean they thirst for violence. It means they understand the situation and feel it isn't right that the father is charged with anything given his hand was forced.
As I have been asserting from moment one, it's unreasonable to expect the father to act as Ghandi might have. If he had shot the pervert to death... your argument would carry much more weight, but sorry... as it rests right now... I'm not feeling what you are saying.
Now you are the one going way up the ladder of inference.
not everything I say is directed at you, man. look at chadwick's posts. particularly how he wishes to come back in his next life and be a pedophile/rapist mutilator.
that's more than a little fucked up to me.
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and feel it isn't right that the father is charged with anything given his hand was forced.
that's just it, though. his hand WASN'T forced. if someone was being physically attacked, that's having your hand forced. someone performing a lewd act in your vicinity is not grounds for assault. and the law agrees with me.
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But then what about those who are civilized? And those who aren't? Especially in that sense?
This isn't some pissant act. It's scary and sick and has the potential to get worse.
It's a man who felt compelled to shed his clothes, then find a...I don't know what. A mark? An object?
A young one.
And then, after that...plant himself there and pleasure himself...at that not even silently.
Loudly.
Proudly?
I sure as hell have few answers, but my empathy isn't toward any adult who jerks off outside the windows of anyone.
I'm not sure what your first two questions are asking.
I would say 99.9% of people who perform such lewd acts are completely harmless. they have odd urges, but that's as far as it goes. would it freak me out to see it? of course, but I highly highly doubt it would enrage me to the point of putting the man in the hospital.
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You dont take the chance that the guy gets away. That and you protect your family at all costs. The guy is already committing at least two crimes by the time you see him -- tresspassing on your property and obscene behavior. If he targets the daughter to watch odds are he's going to take it a step further with her or someone elses kid next time. A parent who viciously assaults a sicko belongs in our society a lot more than a sicko does. This isnt from someone trying to be a tough guy. This just seems like what any dad would do. Hopefully this father gets a slap on the wrist.
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no, it's not. it's fucking illegal and corrupt. cops don't get to choose who they protect. that's not the oath they take. "serve and protect those that I deem fit" is not how it reads. that fucker should be tossed in jail with the perv.
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"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
snap a photo, shut the blinds & call the cops? wtf?
fuck that. this nude ass pervert deserves to bleed a bit to be broken of his disgusting hobby. this is a perfect example of how rural & small town midwest usa deals with bullshit like this. was this in a larger city? i have no idea. iowa operates just like this & it is quite comfortable
how do things work in canada? big city canada? small town/rural canada? where you located, hugh?
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
Yes. Yes... interesting indeed.
A father looking to protect his daughter and family developed the mindset that he challenged a pervert in the process of committing a crime.
comparable to:
A mentally ill guy developing a mindset to decapitate and mutilate some innocent kid as he slept on a bus and minded his own business.
Not the same thing. Not even close.
Yah. Too bad we all couldn't be like you, Hugh.
"Daddy. There's a naked man outside my room looking at me."
Cue father entering bedroom who sees man, naked and masturbating while leering at young daughter.
"Go to bed, honey. Everything is fine." soothes the father as he gently closes the blinds, leaves the room to call the police, and pray for the soul of the pervert.
Poor poor guy who got beat up.
Who should be tossed in jail with the perv (said like they are both equally as offensive)? The father or the police officer?
my open letter prayer to god, our universe...
"in my next life, god, the extreme master of the universe as the universe is god, please allow me to be a super vigilante as i dream of destroying child preditors, all sick fucks & islamic freaks who rape, torture & kill girls & women. it is my ultimate goal to become what hunts monsters down."
i thank you for your time
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
I didn't say they were. you were excusing a guy for "not being responsible for his actions" because of his supposed "mindset" during the crime. it's the exact same idea, just with obviously much different results.
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you know, you blathered on and on about how Byrnzie picked on poor thirty bills in the death penalty thread, and here you are insulting me the same way.
if you can't keep it adult, then stop posting.
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it's called living in a civilized world.
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Winnipeg 2011
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"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
That is a good prayer - Saint Chadwick.
so you want to live in a world where cops are encouraged to assault people they believe deserve it? if one day they believe you deserve it, I'm pretty sure you'd change your tough guy tune.
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
i do fully believe in with all my heart that cops, sheriff & state police can & should bust up child predators, rapists & monsters who harm women & children. if a pedophile is beat to death, i do not lose sleep, if a rapist nasty bastard is shot in the gutter & rots there i do not care.
im no tough guy, i am a realist
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
Okay, fair enough. That was poor of me- although to be fair... you did make a rather backhanded comment about some people and their lynch mob mentality (I assumed I was part of this group you made reference to).
Here's my reworded post in adult-like fashion:
As a father, Hugh, I'm sure you can understand the fact that this was a challenging occurrence for this man to deal with. It's unfortunate that it resulted as it did, but I can't stress enough two things: first, the pervert created this whole situation with his lewd act; second, the father responded and for anyone to weigh in on how he should have responded do so from far away, the comfort of their couch, and outside the intensity of the moment.
Just imagine, and I mean really imagine, you coming to your daughter's window and seeing what that guy saw. Imagine what might go through your mind and the terror you might feel as the reality of the situation sinks in: a pervert has targeted your daughter and is fantasizing about her. If you can honestly say that you would calmly take a picture, phone the police, and then lock the doors and wait for the police to get there in 20/30/40 minutes (as if the guy was going to wait for them- leaving the pervert another day or two to do who knows what?)... I think you are kidding yourself. From some of your previous posts, I'm pretty sure your daughters have a more protective father than what you seemed to have suggested with your previous posts.
If this had happened to you and you had responded as this father did... I would be supporting you.
of course I'd be irate. and yes, I might do the same. I don't know. I don't justify things by way of how I'd react. if I did the same, I'd have to be prepared to face the same consequences.
the nude dude was of no immediate physical danger to anyone. there was absolutely no reason to beat the fuck out of him. subdue him? maybe, but that poses risks as well. THAT'S WHAT POLICE ARE FOR. it sounds to me that this was just a brutal one-sided pounding out of nothing more than anger and vengeance. where I'm from, if you call the police and tell them you have a crazy nude guy trying to break into your house, they'd be there in seconds. I'm getting tired of this old adage that cops take an hour to get to every call as a justification for taking the law into your own hands. it's simply not true.
I'm continually disturbed by the folks on here that seem, to me, to actually have a thirst for violence. Maybe it's somewhat justified by personal experience, but I have no such experience to draw from. and to go so far as to HOPE that cops get some shots in at criminals is incredibly disturbing.
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Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
so you think that all cops would be right 100% of the time when they assault a "bad guy"? you are prepared to give them that kind of power? that's not being a realist. that's thinking you live in Gotham City and Batman always saves the day.
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It is the single greatest fear i have....evil toward my family.
I would be a fool to not be prepared.
As for vengeance? On this topic ? Yes
Now you are the one going way up the ladder of inference.
Just because members of this community fully understand why the father acted as he did and support him as he faces charges for dealing with the situation as he did... this doesn't mean they thirst for violence. It means they understand the situation and feel it isn't right that the father is charged with anything given his hand was forced.
As I have been asserting from moment one, it's unreasonable to expect the father to act as Ghandi might have. If he had shot the pervert to death... your argument would carry much more weight, but sorry... as it rests right now... I'm not feeling what you are saying.
This isn't some pissant act. It's scary and sick and has the potential to get worse.
It's a man who felt compelled to shed his clothes, then find a...I don't know what. A mark? An object?
A young one.
And then, after that...plant himself there and pleasure himself...at that not even silently.
Loudly.
Proudly?
I sure as hell have few answers, but my empathy isn't toward any adult who jerks off outside the windows of anyone.
not everything I say is directed at you, man. look at chadwick's posts. particularly how he wishes to come back in his next life and be a pedophile/rapist mutilator.
that's more than a little fucked up to me.
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that's just it, though. his hand WASN'T forced. if someone was being physically attacked, that's having your hand forced. someone performing a lewd act in your vicinity is not grounds for assault. and the law agrees with me.
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I'm not sure what your first two questions are asking.
I would say 99.9% of people who perform such lewd acts are completely harmless. they have odd urges, but that's as far as it goes. would it freak me out to see it? of course, but I highly highly doubt it would enrage me to the point of putting the man in the hospital.
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The hand is called.
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A cat? I was under the impression this was about a pedophile.
Stainless cleans up easily...good choice.