man beats nude window peeper

chadwick

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -Maho.html

a albuquerque man found a naked guy looking in his daughter's bedroom window. the father beat the nude pervert bad enough that the clothesless freak needed medical attention. the father very well could be charged with a third degree felony. the naked weirdo faces a fourth degree felony which is a lesser charge.

if the judge does not dismiss the father, i am moving to syria.

also, the policemen involved in (father) emilio chavez's arrest should be written up for being stupid

i heard this story on the car radio this morning, so of course i had to come home later on & find it on the net

BinauralJam

pfft, rookie

ajedigecko

Rookie indeed...should have ended this things life.

chadwick

BinauralJam wrote:

pfft, rookie

tell us more

chadwick

ajedigecko wrote:

Rookie indeed...should have ended this things life.

he really should thank his lucky stars he is breathing

Thirty Bills Unpaid

chadwick wrote:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2416537/Albuquerque-New-Mexico-dad-Emilio-Chavez-III-arrested-beating-naked-prowler-Dylan-Maho.html

a albuquerque man found a naked guy looking in his daughter's bedroom window. the father beat the nude pervert bad enough that the clothesless freak needed medical attention. the father very well could be charged with a third degree felony. the naked weirdo faces a fourth degree felony which is a lesser charge.

if the judge does not dismiss the father, i am moving to syria.

also, the policemen involved in (father) emilio chavez's arrest should be written up for being stupid

i heard this story on the car radio this morning, so of course i had to come home later on & find it on the net

Chadwick...

In today's society... ahhh.... never mind.

Let's just say that I guess the expectation was for the father to come out and address the weirdo as follows, "Excuse me, sir. I realize you are in the midst of fantasizing about my daughter while stroking yourself, but could you please not do that? And, sir, if you cannot do that, then can you please finish quickly and move along? Thank you, sir."

chadwick

frig all that.

he deserves a shotgun jammed down his scrawny throat (where of course he loses a few teeth), slapped around some, & thrown into a police cruiser where he is arrested & elbowed in the eye by a cop who no other coppers saw do it so it obviously happened before hand

then the wonderful, protective & responsible father (& family) get a free meal at a restaurant of their choosing paid for by the judge straight out of his or her pocket.

hedonist

AND it's not the first time the nude dude has done this.

Sometimes things are so upside-down they're almost funny.

Here's hoping common sense prevails and the father isn't charged with anything.

Pingfah

chadwick wrote:

frig all that.

he deserves a shotgun jammed down his scrawny throat (where of course he loses a few teeth), slapped around some, & thrown into a police cruiser where he is arrested & elbowed in the eye by a cop who no other coppers saw do it so it obviously happened before hand

then the wonderful, protective & responsible father (& family) get a free meal at a restaurant of their choosing paid for by the judge straight out of his or her pocket.

Putting aside the awful crimes the peeper should most certainly be punished for, it's amazing that you actually want the police to be corrupt and not keep their oath to uphold the law. Earlier you were actually promoting the idea that they should be punished for doing their job.

Remarkably backwards.

polaris_x

i'll say it ...

the father should be charged ...

laws are in place ... if the law allows for people to take vigilante justice and determine their own level of punishment for a crime - what kind of world would we end up living in? ...

BinauralJam

polaris_x wrote:

i'll say it ...

the father should be charged ...

laws are in place ... if the law allows for people to take vigilante justice and determine their own level of punishment for a crime - what kind of world would we end up living in? ...

I would like to live in a world where the spirit of the law was upheld, not the letter of the law, i believe this is one of those times, i say let it slide, a year probation.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

polaris_x wrote:

i'll say it ...

the father should be charged ...

laws are in place ... if the law allows for people to take vigilante justice and determine their own level of punishment for a crime - what kind of world would we end up living in? ...

So, I guess the following response from the father (written in an earlier post) would have been the more preferable option according to you and the law:
"Excuse me, sir. I realize you are in the midst of fantasizing about my daughter while stroking yourself, but could you please not do that? And, sir, if you cannot do that, then can you please finish quickly and move along? Thank you, sir."

What kind of world are we living in when society expects a father to twiddle his thumbs as a nude pervert looks in on his daughter through her window? The guy is a clearly sick freak who is very likely going to take his 'escapades' to another level once leering without the physical contact from the little girls isn't enough.

The guy invoked some strong parental instincts. The father wasn't wishing to beat the guy down... he was placed in a position where he was forced to react. The DA doesn't like how he reacted. They would prefer he had done nothing. Unreasonable. Completely freaking unreasonable.

polaris_x

Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:

So, I guess the following response from the father (written in an earlier post) would have been the more preferable option according to you and the law:
"Excuse me, sir. I realize you are in the midst of fantasizing about my daughter while stroking yourself, but could you please not do that? And, sir, if you cannot do that, then can you please finish quickly and move along? Thank you, sir."

What kind of world are we living in when society expects a father to twiddle his thumbs as a nude pervert looks in on his daughter through her window? The guy is a clearly sick freak who is very likely going to take his 'escapades' to another level once leering without the physical contact from the little girls isn't enough.

The guy invoked some strong parental instincts. The father wasn't wishing to beat the guy down... he was placed in a position where he was forced to react. The DA doesn't like how he reacted. They would prefer he had done nothing. Unreasonable. Completely freaking unreasonable.

soo ... what laws should we abide by? ... who gets to decide? ... you? ... me? ... i think every car driver who idles his car should be beaten ... do i have that option?

Thirty Bills Unpaid

polaris_x wrote:

Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:

So, I guess the following response from the father (written in an earlier post) would have been the more preferable option according to you and the law:
"Excuse me, sir. I realize you are in the midst of fantasizing about my daughter while stroking yourself, but could you please not do that? And, sir, if you cannot do that, then can you please finish quickly and move along? Thank you, sir."

What kind of world are we living in when society expects a father to twiddle his thumbs as a nude pervert looks in on his daughter through her window? The guy is a clearly sick freak who is very likely going to take his 'escapades' to another level once leering without the physical contact from the little girls isn't enough.

The guy invoked some strong parental instincts. The father wasn't wishing to beat the guy down... he was placed in a position where he was forced to react. The DA doesn't like how he reacted. They would prefer he had done nothing. Unreasonable. Completely freaking unreasonable.

soo ... what laws should we abide by? ... who gets to decide? ... you? ... me? ... i think every car driver who idles his car should be beaten ... do i have that option?

Jumping to your daughter's defence from a leering pervert outside her window and getting angry over a car idling are two different cases.

polaris_x

Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:

Jumping to your daughter's defence from a leering pervert outside her window and getting angry over a car idling are two different cases.

but the point of the post was to ask who gets to decide what laws get to be followed and when ... and who gets to determine the punishment? ... you? ... this board? ... a lynch mob? ..

no thank you ...

BinauralJam

polaris_x wrote:

Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:

Jumping to your daughter's defence from a leering pervert outside her window and getting angry over a car idling are two different cases.

but the point of the post was to ask who gets to decide what laws get to be followed and when ... and who gets to determine the punishment? ... you? ... this board? ... a lynch mob? ..

no thank you ...

Batman gets to decide! or would you put Batman in jail too? good luck with that Polaris x, good luck with that....

polaris_x

BinauralJam wrote:

Batman gets to decide! or would you put Batman in jail too? good luck with that Polaris x, good luck with that....

haha

but even the dark knight knew that the memory of the DA needed to be preserved ...

Thirty Bills Unpaid

polaris_x wrote:

Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:

Jumping to your daughter's defence from a leering pervert outside her window and getting angry over a car idling are two different cases.

but the point of the post was to ask who gets to decide what laws get to be followed and when ... and who gets to determine the punishment? ... you? ... this board? ... a lynch mob? ..

no thank you ...

Punishment is a whole different matter.

But in response to your first question... let common sense prevail. If a man is shooting up a shopping mall and someone takes him down with a lot of force... we would deem this acceptable given the circumstances. If a pedophile is naked, peering through a window, and presumably masturbating while leering at a young girl and someone takes him down with a lot of force... I deem this acceptable given the circumstances as well. So do others obviously.

Both are measures taken to stop a crime in progress. An argument could be made that excessive force was used, but how do we get inside the head of the father who, coming to the defence of his daughter, might have feared the man might rise at some point and cause harm to him or his family?

Bottom line: this didn't have to be a situation if the pervert had not felt the need to invade the living space of a family minding its own business.

polaris_x

Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:

Punishment is a whole different matter.

But in response to your first question... let common sense prevail. If a man is shooting up a shopping mall and someone takes him down with a lot of force... we would deem this acceptable given the circumstances. If a pedophile is naked, peering through a window, and presumably masturbating while leering at a young girl and someone takes him down with a lot of force... I deem this acceptable given the circumstances as well. So do others obviously.

Both are measures taken to stop a crime in progress. An argument could be made that excessive force was used, but how do we get inside the head of the father who, coming to the defence of his daughter, might have feared the man might rise at some point and cause harm to him or his family?

Bottom line: this didn't have to be a situation if the pervert had not felt the need to invade the living space of a family minding its own business.

the man was beaten down to the point he required medical attention ... he wasn't just apprehended ...

and again - it goes back to the crux of our issue ... who is to decide which laws are to be followed and which ones not? ... what you are advocating for is vigilante justice ...

i am personally ok with this father doing what he did - but he has to suffer the consequences ...

we can be as subjective as we want in the matter ... and say this and that ... but at the end of the day ... the law was put in place for a reason ... either we get rid of it or we uphold it ... making them arbitrary doesn't really serve a purpose ...

chadwick

"but he has to suffer the consequences"... no he doesn't & no he wont.

he will walk just like the man in texas who found a farm hand raping his daughter. no this wasn't a rape job but it sure as shit is a perverted bullshit act. the farm hand in texas was beat to death.

to me that is justice. vigilante justice is defending one's self, our loved ones & others who can not protect themselves. call the cops last. that is how it works in my world

& yes cops may elbow a child molester or a perverted window peeper square in the fucking face & should be honored with a trophy

Thirty Bills Unpaid

polaris_x wrote:

Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:

Punishment is a whole different matter.

But in response to your first question... let common sense prevail. If a man is shooting up a shopping mall and someone takes him down with a lot of force... we would deem this acceptable given the circumstances. If a pedophile is naked, peering through a window, and presumably masturbating while leering at a young girl and someone takes him down with a lot of force... I deem this acceptable given the circumstances as well. So do others obviously.

Both are measures taken to stop a crime in progress. An argument could be made that excessive force was used, but how do we get inside the head of the father who, coming to the defence of his daughter, might have feared the man might rise at some point and cause harm to him or his family?

Bottom line: this didn't have to be a situation if the pervert had not felt the need to invade the living space of a family minding its own business.

the man was beaten down to the point he required medical attention ... he wasn't just apprehended ...

and again - it goes back to the crux of our issue ... who is to decide which laws are to be followed and which ones not? ... what you are advocating for is vigilante justice ...

i am personally ok with this father doing what he did - but he has to suffer the consequences ...

we can be as subjective as we want in the matter ... and say this and that ... but at the end of the day ... the law was put in place for a reason ... either we get rid of it or we uphold it ... making them arbitrary doesn't really serve a purpose ...

I'm not advocating for vigilante justice. The creep was stopped from committing a crime by the father while the crime was in progress. Vigilante justice would be finding out the creep had done what he had done... marching over to his house... and proceeding to beat the hell out of him.

The father exercised his right to defend his home and daughter. We can argue about the exten to which he did, but let's be honest here: judging from afar we cannot get into the mindset of the father that was dealing with the situation that was forced upon him- he never asked to be placed into that situation; therefore, we need to afford him leniancy.