After 19 years, so long Ten Club.

MD4331

I have been in the Ten Club since 1994. I have every Christmas (or holiday) single released. I have a 108xxx number. I have only been to 3 shows during that time period (I was living in St. Paul at the time). The first in 1995 in Milwaukee. The second time in 1998 in Minneapolis. I did not buy tickets to multiple shows nor did I road trip to see them after 1995. I moved to the Dallas area in 2001. The last time I would see the band live was in Dallas in 2003. I have continued to pay my dues EVERY YEAR since hoping the band would return to Dallas. I have see the price go up from $5 to $40 yet I continue to stay in the club to get the single and still retain the opportunity to get tickets if the band ever came to Dallas again. Well, they finally add a date here for the first time in 10 years! And what have they done with the ticket system? Well everyone knows. I do not have the funds to pick multiple shows in case by chance I would win more than one. I go with my one and only pick of Dallas GA and I wait all fucking day to see if I won. I wake up today and about 1 AM I was sent the e-mail saying I lost. No tickets. 10 years I waited for a show only to be shut out. Many folks on this board have been seeing them numerous times over the years. And a lot of you got your tickets again this time. I do not see the fairness in this system especially when you can purchase tickets for multiple shows. I bitched to the Ten Club back in Jan. when they did there test run to no avail. To say I am disappointed is an understatement. It makes no difference now if you just joined before the deadline or have been in it for 19 years when it comes to tickets. I know there will be many smart asses on here to rip me a new one or to tell me to stop my bitching. That's fine. So this is my only statement on this. Going forward I will no longer pay my dues and support this so called fan club anymore. Ten years and not a single ticket purchase yet I stuck with it. I tried the lottery but I lost. Retire my club number. Give it to the scalpers or the new kids. The bitching now stops but so does my money to the club and the band. Thanks. Hopefully U2 won't pull this shit for their next tour... Off my angry soapbox now. Peace.

Who I Am

So you received exactly what 10c promised....correct?

Ps- 3 shows in 2 decades is not impressive at all.

TunnelThroughDenial

Not here to rip you and so sorry you didn't win but why not also put Dallas reserved as priority two? That would have increased your odds and you can only win one pair per sbow.

LloydXmas

MD4331 wrote:

I have been in the Ten Club since 1994.

cp3iverson

Didnt try for tickets so i didnt win or lose but honestly things change man. We're not mailing index cards back to 10C anymore.

Just try for ticketmaster.

JM44800

TunnelThroughDenial wrote:

Not here to rip you and so sorry you didn't win but why not also put Dallas reserved as priority two? That would have increased your odds and you can only win one pair per sbow.

^^^^ This! Why not give yourself more of a chance to see them if it was that important to you and something you really wanted? Unless you only wanted the pit becaue you have been a member for so long and felt that is what you deserved? Doesn't make sense, but good luck to you in your future and ther next U2 tour!

Yes Way

A. I really do feel bad for you. Getting shut out stinks.
B. Selfishly, I'm happy to move up a slot.

I hate the lottery but I think I just found the silver lining.

sheldonm

Nobody cares how long someone has been in this club. Sure i'm a newbie but i know people who worship this band and aren't in the club like us. Seriously stop your whining and do what I did when I missed out on tickets to wrigley because nothing else worked for me. I bit the bullet and spent a bunch of money (500 each!) on tickets for an awesome time. Your amount of time in this club does not measure how much you love this band and does not make you entitled to good tickets. You and a bunch of others are acting like you are owed this, knock that shit off or just leave, either way nobody will miss your complaining.

Bladamus Maximus

Milwaukee '95 was my first show, too.

Parksy

sheldonm wrote:

Nobody cares how long someone has been in this club. Sure i'm a newbie but i know people who worship this band and aren't in the club like us. Seriously stop your whining and do what I did when I missed out on tickets to wrigley because nothing else worked for me. I bit the bullet and spent a bunch of money (500 each!) on tickets for an awesome time. Your amount of time in this club does not measure how much you love this band and does not make you entitled to good tickets. You and a bunch of others are acting like you are owed this, knock that shit off or just leave, either way nobody will miss your complaining.

1st: Not everyone has $500 to spend on tickets.

2nd: Pearl Jam have for 20 years believed (and still do) that your seniority entitles you to good seats.

3rd: While being in a fan club cannot measure the emotional value of a band... the fact that this guy spent ten years maintaining a membership.. WHERE OTHERS DIDN'T is a shitty deal no matter how you slice it.

evander1129

If you put reserved as second choice you would have won tix to show. Your own fault for only choosing ga.

Mr. Hand

Sorry you lost out, I understand your frustration. But the 10 Club really owes you nothing. Potential access to tickets is one of the perks, of many, of being in the fan club of the greatest band of the last 20 years. They never promised you will always get a ticket, and they do their best to be as fair as possible to what amounts to hundreds of thousands of fans looking to score seats. Had you read some of the stats geeks' posts on this board, you would have realized that GA was a very hard ticket to get statistically and would have put reserved as a second priority. In essence, what your saying is given your seniority and the fact that you paid your dues every year but chose not to seek tickets, you should somehow have been guaranteed a seat. Life doesn't work that way. I wish you well, but I think you would be foolish to give up a 19-year membership because the one time they came back to Dallas you didn't get a seat.

Bravejamriot

So you put in for tickets they said were tough to get and are pissed you didn't get them?

Why do people feel the need to make these posts? Just cancel membership and move on then.

haffajappa

Parksy wrote:

sheldonm wrote:

Nobody cares how long someone has been in this club. Sure i'm a newbie but i know people who worship this band and aren't in the club like us. Seriously stop your whining and do what I did when I missed out on tickets to wrigley because nothing else worked for me. I bit the bullet and spent a bunch of money (500 each!) on tickets for an awesome time. Your amount of time in this club does not measure how much you love this band and does not make you entitled to good tickets. You and a bunch of others are acting like you are owed this, knock that shit off or just leave, either way nobody will miss your complaining.

1st: Not everyone has $500 to spend on tickets.

2nd: Pearl Jam have for 20 years believed (and still do) that your seniority entitles you to good seats.

3rd: While being in a fan club cannot measure the emotional value of a band... the fact that this guy spent ten years maintaining a membership.. WHERE OTHERS DIDN'T is a shitty deal no matter how you slice it.

The band has believed that for 20 years or the fans have? :?

dlymnfld

Don't do it. Suck up the $40.00. I joined in 1993 and let my membership lapse in 1998 and didn't renew until 2001. I went from a double digit number to 218. Worse move I made. Forty bucks is literally around 11 cents a day.

Stephen Flow

hmmm.... if your name gets pulled for GA and Reserve you only get charged for 1 option... so putting your name in for both choices doesn't get you double charged if that's what you were worried about.

Kimmiebyrom

It's a shame that after being in the club for so long that you don't realize how much this community helps one another out when shut-outs occur. Especially in a tour situation and not a one-off show. You may have lost the lottery, but there are/will be tickets elsewhere.

I've also waited 10 years for them to play Dallas. I've seen them once (Dallas 2003).
I willingly and knowingly paid for the mere CHANCE to get a ticket via my 10c membership.
Would I be sad if I lost out? YES. Would I spread hate all over the place because I lost? NO.
There's so much in this world to make us bleed...why add to it? A better question would be, who are you really angry at? The 10c for changing the ticketing system that the band wanted and felt was more fair, or yourself for thinking that your membership seniority guaranteed you a ticket?

I think in retrospect, you'll be able to answer that honestly.

haffajappa

dlymnfld wrote:

Don't do it. Suck up the $40.00. I joined in 1993 and let my membership lapse in 1998 and didn't renew until 2001. I went from a double digit number to 218. Worse move I made. Forty bucks is literally around 11 cents a day.

But Pearl Jam martyrdom... Priceless

GratefulJam

Someone hook this guy up with a Dallas GA so atleast he can leave with a positive feeling about the whole thing

Parksy

haffajappa wrote:

Parksy wrote:

sheldonm wrote:

Nobody cares how long someone has been in this club. Sure i'm a newbie but i know people who worship this band and aren't in the club like us. Seriously stop your whining and do what I did when I missed out on tickets to wrigley because nothing else worked for me. I bit the bullet and spent a bunch of money (500 each!) on tickets for an awesome time. Your amount of time in this club does not measure how much you love this band and does not make you entitled to good tickets. You and a bunch of others are acting like you are owed this, knock that shit off or just leave, either way nobody will miss your complaining.

1st: Not everyone has $500 to spend on tickets.

2nd: Pearl Jam have for 20 years believed (and still do) that your seniority entitles you to good seats.

3rd: While being in a fan club cannot measure the emotional value of a band... the fact that this guy spent ten years maintaining a membership.. WHERE OTHERS DIDN'T is a shitty deal no matter how you slice it.

The band has believed that for 20 years or the fans have? :?

The band has. So long as 10C represents the band. I've never met the band, and therefore cannot conclude that the band feels this way. But for twenty years, your seniority in the 10C was the basis for how close you were to the stage. Therefore, 10C (The Band) believed in rewarding seniority.

GM151575

You realize you can buy tickets still during the regular public on sale, like everyone else that didn't win the lottery or isn't even a 10c member. I won one of the philly shows, which is cool. If I didn't win, I'd still be trying to get both philly shows and both brooklyn shows through the public onsale, now I just need 3. It's 40 bucks to get all the usual stuff and the possibility of getting early 10c tickets. There are no promises made of getting tickets and there's no vagueness about it. So sigh up/ don't sign up or renew or don't renew at your discretion. But does it really matter if you end up getting tickets through 10c or the regular on sale if you really want to go?

MD4331

Thanks for all the messages guys, good & bad. Again, I gambled on GA instead of reserved. Might have had a better shot at Res. but wanted to be close to the band if possible. Funds didn't allow me more than one option in case I did win more than once. I am just frustrated beyond belief and very disappointed, it's true. It's not mailing in a money order with a order form like the old days. I loathe Ticketmaster to death. What I see in the forums though is that this band has some of the coolest fans in the world!

Peace.

MD4331

FYI, I will still try through the regular on-sale. What the hell, right?

Peace.

haffajappa

Parksy wrote:

haffajappa wrote:

Parksy wrote:

1st: Not everyone has $500 to spend on tickets.

2nd: Pearl Jam have for 20 years believed (and still do) that your seniority entitles you to good seats.

3rd: While being in a fan club cannot measure the emotional value of a band... the fact that this guy spent ten years maintaining a membership.. WHERE OTHERS DIDN'T is a shitty deal no matter how you slice it.

The band has believed that for 20 years or the fans have? :?

The band has. So long as 10C represents the band. I've never met the band, and therefore cannot conclude that the band feels this way. But for twenty years, your seniority in the 10C was the basis for how close you were to the stage. Therefore, 10C (The Band) believed in rewarding seniority.

Decent logic, but not to be an ass, then it also means they no longer maintain that belief :-)
I'm just curious though how much the band actually thinks or cares about fan club seniority, they only do it in the US, and there have been times where Eddie notes seeing the same people in the front all the time.

edit: US + Canada, sorry.

Parksy

OP.. if you do get tickets through regular sale.. please come back and let us know. I hope you do!!

jervin007

I wouldn't cancel man. The lottery process is new and can be tweaked.

Shame you didn't go for Reserved. With your # you would Probably have had great seats on the wings

Good luck with the ticketmaster sale

haffajappa

Parksy wrote:

OP.. if you do get tickets through regular sale.. please come back and let us know. I hope you do!!

Yes and like someone else said, there are usually spares. Try the pre-party... worst case scenario you get to drink with a bunch of good people. Best case you're in the doors at the venue.

rival9500

Parksy wrote:

sheldonm wrote:

Nobody cares how long someone has been in this club. Sure i'm a newbie but i know people who worship this band and aren't in the club like us. Seriously stop your whining and do what I did when I missed out on tickets to wrigley because nothing else worked for me. I bit the bullet and spent a bunch of money (500 each!) on tickets for an awesome time. Your amount of time in this club does not measure how much you love this band and does not make you entitled to good tickets. You and a bunch of others are acting like you are owed this, knock that shit off or just leave, either way nobody will miss your complaining.

1st: Not everyone has $500 to spend on tickets.

2nd: Pearl Jam have for 20 years believed (and still do) that your seniority entitles you to good seats.

3rd: While being in a fan club cannot measure the emotional value of a band... the fact that this guy spent ten years maintaining a membership.. WHERE OTHERS DIDN'T is a shitty deal no matter how you slice it.

Well said. So many on here jump all over someone for venting their well deserved frustrations. I got completely fucked over on tickets (8) and others get 6 shows. Explain to me how that is fair? The people complaining about whining are just as bad.

Choccoloccotide

MD4331 wrote:

Thanks for all the messages guys, good & bad. Again, I gambled on GA instead of reserved. Might have had a better shot at Res. but wanted to be close to the band if possible. Funds didn't allow me more than one option in case I did win more than once. I am just frustrated beyond belief and very disappointed, it's true. It's not mailing in a money order with a order form like the old days. I loathe Ticketmaster to death. What I see in the forums though is that this band has some of the coolest fans in the world!

Peace.

Your not getting it. You could have put GA as priority #1 and reserve seating as priority #2 for the Dallas show. You could only have won one of those options. You cut your own throat by not picking reserve as your #2. You probably would have won reserve. It's not GA, but you would be in the building.

jlwhite1076

So what is wrong with new kids, I have been a fan since Ten and I finally just signed up for 10 club in February, I have enjoyed every bit.

Backspacer_Backer

TunnelThroughDenial wrote:

Not here to rip you and so sorry you didn't win but why not also put Dallas reserved as priority two? That would have increased your odds and you can only win one pair per sbow.

Exactly. Probably would have won those. And I guess it's the Ten Club's fault that he won't leave the DFW area.

Hey OP, smell ya later bro.