well then let me ask you,i think you live in Canada right ? do feel comfortable around the muslim areas in Canada ? don't you even think about terrorism and these groups ?
I realize asking anybody these questions on the AMT might be asking a lot of most of you but seriously do you ever think about it when you drive past a muslin church in Canada ? or anybody anywhere on the AMT can honestly tell me that thought does not cross your mind while passing any muslim organisation or church ?
Godfather.
.... Are you expecting him to say that he feels nervous about terrorism or being around terrorists in Canadian areas with a large Muslim population???? .... I seriously doubt you're going to find the answer you're looking for!
:fp:
I went on a really nice walk in Golden Ears Provincial Park on Sunday with my mom. There was a lot of Muslim families there (we did notice because there were several large groups of adults and children, and many smaller Muslim families as well), and mentioned that it must be a favorite recreation spot (aka out of the way place to plot and scheme) among Vancouver's Muslim community), and I can tell you, when we kept passing them on the trail to and from the waterfall, I was seriously quaking in my hiking boots. I'm pretty sure a few of them had bombs in those light backpacks, and not light picnic lunches, as they'd like to have us believe. :think: Of course they were very friendly when we exchanged the 'hiker's hello' when passing them all, but I'm sure that's just a part of the ruse. Boy, was I ever relieved when we made it back to the car alive!
:roll:
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I don't live in Canada... and I don't have a problem walking past a Mosque. Just like i don't have a problem walking past a church or a Temple. I think it's because I'm neither afraid or paranoid.
Actually, i'm more afraid of an American with a gun that will gladly exchange my life for the few peices of paper in my wallet.
Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
Hail, Hail!!!
well then let me ask you,i think you live in Canada right ? do feel comfortable around the muslim areas in Canada ? don't you even think about terrorism and these groups ?
I realize asking anybody these questions on the AMT might be asking a lot of most of you but seriously do you ever think about it when you drive past a muslin church in Canada ? or anybody anywhere on the AMT can honestly tell me that thought does not cross your mind while passing any muslim organisation or church ?
Godfather.
yes, I'm in Winnipeg Manitoba. Home of the Jets, Neil Young, The Guess Who, and the Almighty Mosquito and the Unholy Winter.
No, it honestly has never crossed my mind. I know there are some extremist organizations in Canada, maybe not Winnipeg, but at least one or two were busted in Toronto concocting some nastiness, but I have never had any thoughts of nervousness or paranoia or fear when around anyone.
I'm a little more standoffish with the drunk bums in the downtown area than anything else.
Gimli 1993
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
Cosmo,thank you my friend ! I may change my mind about muslims down the road but right now they're just starting too much trouble and it seems they have the support of all muslims...maybe I'm wrong but this is just the way I see it right now.
Godfather.
support of all muslims? are you KIDDING ME????
I already addressed this point on page one of this thread when I provided a long list of Muslims and Muslim groups condemning the murder in London. viewtopic.php?f=13&t=208751#p5067042
Clearly he chose to ignore it.
Aerial, why do you constantly read racist neo-Nazi websites? Seriously, what's the appeal to you of reading these hate-mongers? Are you, or is somebody close to you, a member of a right-wing militia, or the KKK?
Secondly, are you really a fan of Pearl Jam?
I do not read any type of anything on a constant basis.....you asking me that question is equivalent to me asking you if you are a terrorist?
You constantly post articles from far right wackjobs and professed Islamophobes. Why is that? You clearly seek these websites out. These aren't the type of websites people just stumble across. One of your favourites, Debbie Schlussel, is a self-confessed Islamophobe who says that those people - "these hateful, privileged brats" - killed at Utoya in Norway by Anders Brevik, deserved what they got because they were "HAMAS collaborators" who "sided with Jew-killers".
'...she famously responded to Osama bin Laden's death by quipping "1 down, 1.8 billion to go." When a family of West Bank settlers were murdered earlier this year, she approvingly quoted PM Netanyahu's son's remarks that "terror has a religion and it is Islam” and “not all Muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslims."
You then post a webpage by a holocaust denier who is lauded by neo-Nazis and whose artcles appear on the racist neo-Nazi website Stormfront.
Practically every link you provide in your constant attacks on minority groups is a link to an extremist individual or hate-group.
So what's your story, Aerial? Do you have ties to any far-right, neo-Nazi groups, or the KKK?
I have never heard of this guy until I read this blog and that is all I have read of his....but reading what you posted I do agree with part of what he is saying and I didn't even know he had stated this
Interesting. Let's look at the piece again that you 'agree with part of':
The preservation and growth of Western civilization, from which most races have benefitted, but which was created in the main by only one: the white race White liberation from the oppression of minorities, particularly from the Jewish-Occupied Government (JOG) of not only America, but of the entire Western world
Real free speech, which allows talking about all 'taboo' subjects, particularly including the role of Jewish influence in the world, Jewish dominance of institutions and their stranglehold on the mass media, the Holocaust lie, the genocide and culturcide perpetrated by Jews against whites, the nazi-like behavior of Israel, and racial inferiority and superiority
A return to Constitutional government, as expressed by the Founders' 'original intent', and a rejection of the present day view of so many judges that the Constitution is a 'living document', ie, dead-letter.
Opposition to the so-called New World Order, which seeks dominance of the world by a small elite which is closely tied to bankers, large corporations and the rich, and which is represented by such secretive and exclusive but powerful groups as the Council on Foreign Relations, the Bilderbergers, the Trilateral Commission, the Roundtable groups, and the like Opposition to illegal immigration, which our government deliberately encourages, and which is overwhelming the Southwest (and indeed the entire nation) with millions of persons - mostly Mexicans -- whose gene pool is inferior and whose culture is hostile to that of the majority population of America.
Opposition to governmental anti-white discrimination (affirmative action and similar policies) Opposition to 'multiculturalism' and other forms of race-mixing whose evident intent is to destroy the white gene pool and cause Western society to self-destruct by exploding in racial war The right of all minorities to self-determination and their place in the sun
Actonite libertarianism, ie, the policy of maximizing individual freedom while keeping power as dispersed as reasonably possible so as to avoid the pitfall so well expressed by Lord Acton that 'power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely'
Scientific spiritualism, which seeks to put religion and psi phenomena on a scientific basis and thereby help mankind rediscover his place in the Cosmos in light of modern developments, and which seeks the rediscovery of the Great White Spirit of our ancestors which was the ultimate force behind the creation of Western civilization
I have never heard of this guy until I read this blog and that is all I have read of his....but reading what you posted I do agree with part of what he is saying and I didn't even know he had stated this
Interesting. Let's look at the piece again that you 'agree with part of':
The preservation and growth of Western civilization, from which most races have benefitted, but which was created in the main by only one: the white race White liberation from the oppression of minorities, particularly from the Jewish-Occupied Government (JOG) of not only America, but of the entire Western world
Real free speech, which allows talking about all 'taboo' subjects, particularly including the role of Jewish influence in the world, Jewish dominance of institutions and their stranglehold on the mass media, the Holocaust lie, the genocide and culturcide perpetrated by Jews against whites, the nazi-like behavior of Israel, and racial inferiority and superiority
A return to Constitutional government, as expressed by the Founders' 'original intent', and a rejection of the present day view of so many judges that the Constitution is a 'living document', ie, dead-letter.
Opposition to the so-called New World Order, which seeks dominance of the world by a small elite which is closely tied to bankers, large corporations and the rich, and which is represented by such secretive and exclusive but powerful groups as the Council on Foreign Relations, the Bilderbergers, the Trilateral Commission, the Roundtable groups, and the like Opposition to illegal immigration, which our government deliberately encourages, and which is overwhelming the Southwest (and indeed the entire nation) with millions of persons - mostly Mexicans -- whose gene pool is inferior and whose culture is hostile to that of the majority population of America.
Opposition to governmental anti-white discrimination (affirmative action and similar policies) Opposition to 'multiculturalism' and other forms of race-mixing whose evident intent is to destroy the white gene pool and cause Western society to self-destruct by exploding in racial war The right of all minorities to self-determination and their place in the sun
Actonite libertarianism, ie, the policy of maximizing individual freedom while keeping power as dispersed as reasonably possible so as to avoid the pitfall so well expressed by Lord Acton that 'power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely'
Scientific spiritualism, which seeks to put religion and psi phenomena on a scientific basis and thereby help mankind rediscover his place in the Cosmos in light of modern developments, and which seeks the rediscovery of the Great White Spirit of our ancestors which was the ultimate force behind the creation of Western civilization
Great White Spirit??? is that the God of the North?
Gimli 1993
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
well then let me ask you,i think you live in Canada right ? do feel comfortable around the muslim areas in Canada ? don't you even think about terrorism and these groups ?
I realize asking anybody these questions on the AMT might be asking a lot of most of you but seriously do you ever think about it when you drive past a muslin church in Canada ? or anybody anywhere on the AMT can honestly tell me that thought does not cross your mind while passing any muslim organisation or church ?
Godfather.
yes, I'm in Winnipeg Manitoba. Home of the Jets, Neil Young, The Guess Who, and the Almighty Mosquito and the Unholy Winter.
No, it honestly has never crossed my mind. I know there are some extremist organizations in Canada, maybe not Winnipeg, but at least one or two were busted in Toronto concocting some nastiness, but I have never had any thoughts of nervousness or paranoia or fear when around anyone.
I'm a little more standoffish with the drunk bums in the downtown area than anything else.
very cool,I believe you and thanks for your answer.....who else but a real rock n roll fan even brings up the "Guess Who" my favorite album is "rockin the guess who" awesome ! song "running bear"
.... Are you expecting him to say that he feels nervous about terrorism or being around terrorists in Canadian areas with a large Muslim population???? .... I seriously doubt you're going to find the answer you're looking for!
I went on a really nice walk in Golden Ears Provincial Park on Sunday with my mom. There was a lot of Muslim families there (we did notice because there were several large groups of adults and children, and many smaller Muslim families as well), and mentioned that it must be a favorite recreation spot (aka out of the way place to plot and scheme) among Vancouver's Muslim community), and I can tell you, when we kept passing them on the trail to and from the waterfall, I was seriously quaking in my hiking boots. I'm pretty sure a few of them had bombs in those light backpacks, and not light picnic lunches, as they'd like to have us believe. Of course they were very friendly when we exchanged the 'hiker's hello' when passing them all, but I'm sure that's just a part of the ruse. Boy, was I ever relieved when we made it back to the car alive!
your entire reply is asnine, I got exactly what I was looking for which was what I beleive to be a honest answer
without all the walk in the park sarcasim and bullshit but thank you for taking the time to reply non the less.
This thread is predictably disturbing.
I'm a bit disappointed to see anyone giving some of these admitted bigots ANY slack. It's borderline enabling. They should be ridiculed and ostracized for their open intolerance. It's not really something to just shrug off. These people have influence on our younger generation and should not be able to laugh it off when they're proven to be wrong. A 'lol' emoticon and a little snide comment doesn't get you off the hook for perpetuating attitudes that result in abuse, oppression, murder, war.....not in my books anyway.
do feel comfortable around the muslim areas in Canada ? don't you even think about terrorism and these groups ?
I realize asking anybody these questions on the AMT might be asking a lot of most of you but seriously do you ever think about it when you drive past a muslin church in Canada ? or anybody anywhere on the AMT can honestly tell me that thought does not cross your mind while passing any muslim organisation or church ?
There is an Islamic Academy just down the road from me....it's next to a buddhist temple. there is a 'Mediterranean market' just down the road where they sell halal meats and have hundreds of hookahs lining the tops of the produce displays ....there is a Mediterranean restaurant/hookah lounge in the other direction. I've attended several lectures hosted by Canadians for Justice and Peace in the Middle East. I'd say 60-70% of the crowd are of middle eastern decent...the way people talk and greet each other at these gatherings is something to behold....hugs and smiles and just a TON of positive energy. There is a huge Lebanese population in my city. I live in the heart of it. And i can honestly say that I've never once felt threatened or worried about terrorism. Must suck living in fear like that.
This thread is predictably disturbing.
I'm a bit disappointed to see anyone giving some of these admitted bigots ANY slack. It's borderline enabling. They should be ridiculed and ostracized for their open intolerance. It's not really something to just shrug off. These people have influence on our younger generation and should not be able to laugh it off when they're proven to be wrong. A 'lol' emoticon and a little snide comment doesn't get you off the hook for perpetuating attitudes that result in abuse, oppression, murder, war.....not in my books anyway.
do feel comfortable around the muslim areas in Canada ? don't you even think about terrorism and these groups ?
I realize asking anybody these questions on the AMT might be asking a lot of most of you but seriously do you ever think about it when you drive past a muslin church in Canada ? or anybody anywhere on the AMT can honestly tell me that thought does not cross your mind while passing any muslim organisation or church ?
There is an Islamic Academy just down the road from me....it's next to a buddhist temple. there is a 'Mediterranean market' just down the road where they sell halal meats and have hundreds of hookahs lining the tops of the produce displays ....there is a Mediterranean restaurant/hookah lounge in the other direction. I've attended several lectures hosted by Canadians for Justice and Peace in the Middle East. I'd say 60-70% of the crowd are of middle eastern decent...the way people talk and greet each other at these gatherings is something to behold....hugs and smiles and just a TON of positive energy. There is a huge Lebanese population in my city. I live in the heart of it. And i can honestly say that I've never once felt threatened or worried about terrorism. Must suck living in fear like that.
your opinion has been duley noted,thank you but I am still of my own opinion and btw why don't you ask a surviver of 9/11 or any other terrorist attack how they feel.
your opinion has been duley noted,thank you but I am still of my own opinion and btw why don't you ask a surviver of 9/11 or any other terrorist attack how they feel.
Godfather.
so you assume that all families of terrorist victims feel the same way you do?
Gimli 1993
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
your opinion has been duley noted,thank you but I am still of my own opinion and btw why don't you ask a surviver of 9/11 or any other terrorist attack how they feel.
Godfather.
Do you mean ask them what they think of muslims? Or Islamophobia? Or...?
Would you like me to track down a family member of one of the muslims killed in the towers?
Here, YOU pick one and ask. They're mostly white, no need to be afraid. http://www.peacefultomorrows.org/catego ... er-stories
I'm sure some of these people, over 200 family members of victims of 9/11, would love to hear you explain how their family members death is used to support your bigotry.
In fact, they have a dedicated, ongoing campaign against Islamophobia.
Members of Peaceful Tomorrows have shared their voices on issues affecting immigrants as a result of 9/11, rejecting Islamophobia as well as the stereotyping and scapegoating that sometimes accompanied otherwise positive and meaningful reform efforts.
Most recently, members of Peaceful Tomorrows have expressed their support for the creation of an Islamic Cultural Center in Lower Manhattan, referred to as the “Ground Zero Mosque.” As a wave of Islamophobia swept the country in 2010, the cultural center became a national issue, making it clear that a larger public education campaign was needed. We forged new kinds of partnerships to bring to new audiences our message about the vital necessity for restoring the rule of law and defending civil liberties and religious freedoms. Protection of religious freedom and human rights strengthens our nation; denying Muslims their rights is un-American. Repressive policies that grow out of fear and hatred play into the hands of the terrorists.
your opinion has been duley noted,thank you but I am still of my own opinion and btw why don't you ask a surviver of 9/11 or any other terrorist attack how they feel.
Godfather.
Do you mean ask them what they think of muslims? Or Islamophobia? Or...?
Would you like me to track down a family member of one of the muslims killed in the towers?
Here, YOU pick one and ask. They're mostly white, no need to be afraid. http://www.peacefultomorrows.org/catego ... er-stories
I'm sure some of these people, over 200 family members of victims of 9/11, would love to hear you explain how their family members death is used to support your bigotry.
In fact, they have a dedicated, ongoing campaign against Islamophobia.
Members of Peaceful Tomorrows have shared their voices on issues affecting immigrants as a result of 9/11, rejecting Islamophobia as well as the stereotyping and scapegoating that sometimes accompanied otherwise positive and meaningful reform efforts.
Most recently, members of Peaceful Tomorrows have expressed their support for the creation of an Islamic Cultural Center in Lower Manhattan, referred to as the “Ground Zero Mosque.” As a wave of Islamophobia swept the country in 2010, the cultural center became a national issue, making it clear that a larger public education campaign was needed. We forged new kinds of partnerships to bring to new audiences our message about the vital necessity for restoring the rule of law and defending civil liberties and religious freedoms. Protection of religious freedom and human rights strengthens our nation; denying Muslims their rights is un-American. Repressive policies that grow out of fear and hatred play into the hands of the terrorists.
your opinion has been duley noted,thank you but I am still of my own opinion and btw why don't you ask a surviver of 9/11 or any other terrorist attack how they feel.
Godfather.
so you assume that all families of terrorist victims feel the same way you do?
no I'm sure all do not but the few I do know feel the same as I do.
your opinion has been duley noted,thank you but I am still of my own opinion and btw why don't you ask a surviver of 9/11 or any other terrorist attack how they feel.
Godfather.
Do you mean ask them what they think of muslims? Or Islamophobia? Or...?
Would you like me to track down a family member of one of the muslims killed in the towers?
Here, YOU pick one and ask. They're mostly white, no need to be afraid. http://www.peacefultomorrows.org/catego ... er-stories
I'm sure some of these people, over 200 family members of victims of 9/11, would love to hear you explain how their family members death is used to support your bigotry.
In fact, they have a dedicated, ongoing campaign against Islamophobia.
Members of Peaceful Tomorrows have shared their voices on issues affecting immigrants as a result of 9/11, rejecting Islamophobia as well as the stereotyping and scapegoating that sometimes accompanied otherwise positive and meaningful reform efforts.
Most recently, members of Peaceful Tomorrows have expressed their support for the creation of an Islamic Cultural Center in Lower Manhattan, referred to as the “Ground Zero Mosque.” As a wave of Islamophobia swept the country in 2010, the cultural center became a national issue, making it clear that a larger public education campaign was needed. We forged new kinds of partnerships to bring to new audiences our message about the vital necessity for restoring the rule of law and defending civil liberties and religious freedoms. Protection of religious freedom and human rights strengthens our nation; denying Muslims their rights is un-American. Repressive policies that grow out of fear and hatred play into the hands of the terrorists.
I'd like to hear the Don's reply to this.
well my friend all I can say is who is really "living in fear" ? while my thoughts and prayers go out to all who were affected by 9/11 and other attacks my feeling on the attacks are mine and I can honestly say many people feel the same as I do and do not support the idea of a islamic cultural center on ground zero,is there a nazi cultural center in england or one at ground zero known as awswitz ? (spelling)...and no I do not support the nazi idelism so don't even go there.
This thread is predictably disturbing.
I'm a bit disappointed to see anyone giving some of these admitted bigots ANY slack. It's borderline enabling. They should be ridiculed and ostracized for their open intolerance. It's not really something to just shrug off. These people have influence on our younger generation and should not be able to laugh it off when they're proven to be wrong. A 'lol' emoticon and a little snide comment doesn't get you off the hook for perpetuating attitudes that result in abuse, oppression, murder, war.....not in my books anyway.
do feel comfortable around the muslim areas in Canada ? don't you even think about terrorism and these groups ?
I realize asking anybody these questions on the AMT might be asking a lot of most of you but seriously do you ever think about it when you drive past a muslin church in Canada ? or anybody anywhere on the AMT can honestly tell me that thought does not cross your mind while passing any muslim organisation or church ?
There is an Islamic Academy just down the road from me....it's next to a buddhist temple. there is a 'Mediterranean market' just down the road where they sell halal meats and have hundreds of hookahs lining the tops of the produce displays ....there is a Mediterranean restaurant/hookah lounge in the other direction. I've attended several lectures hosted by Canadians for Justice and Peace in the Middle East. I'd say 60-70% of the crowd are of middle eastern decent...the way people talk and greet each other at these gatherings is something to behold....hugs and smiles and just a TON of positive energy. There is a huge Lebanese population in my city. I live in the heart of it. And i can honestly say that I've never once felt threatened or worried about terrorism. Must suck living in fear like that.
Couldn't agree with you more. I cannot for the life of me understand people saying, "I know you're a bigotry, but I respect your honesty" type of attitude being shown here.
If this was someone expressing similar views on the street and was posted on YouTube we'd all be saying how disgraceful it is and how it should not be allowed. However because we know this particular person, in a posting sense, it is as though they get a pass. Scary indeed.
I have no time for bigots, or those that defend it. When we allow these behaviours to fester we lose the right to scream blue murder when they manifest themselves
This thread is predictably disturbing.
I'm a bit disappointed to see anyone giving some of these admitted bigots ANY slack. It's borderline enabling. They should be ridiculed and ostracized for their open intolerance. It's not really something to just shrug off. These people have influence on our younger generation and should not be able to laugh it off when they're proven to be wrong. A 'lol' emoticon and a little snide comment doesn't get you off the hook for perpetuating attitudes that result in abuse, oppression, murder, war.....not in my books anyway.
do feel comfortable around the muslim areas in Canada ? don't you even think about terrorism and these groups ?
I realize asking anybody these questions on the AMT might be asking a lot of most of you but seriously do you ever think about it when you drive past a muslin church in Canada ? or anybody anywhere on the AMT can honestly tell me that thought does not cross your mind while passing any muslim organisation or church ?
There is an Islamic Academy just down the road from me....it's next to a buddhist temple. there is a 'Mediterranean market' just down the road where they sell halal meats and have hundreds of hookahs lining the tops of the produce displays ....there is a Mediterranean restaurant/hookah lounge in the other direction. I've attended several lectures hosted by Canadians for Justice and Peace in the Middle East. I'd say 60-70% of the crowd are of middle eastern decent...the way people talk and greet each other at these gatherings is something to behold....hugs and smiles and just a TON of positive energy. There is a huge Lebanese population in my city. I live in the heart of it. And i can honestly say that I've never once felt threatened or worried about terrorism. Must suck living in fear like that.
Couldn't agree with you more. I cannot for the life of me understand people saying, "I know you're a bigotry, but I respect your honesty" type of attitude being shown here.
If this was someone expressing similar views on the street and was posted on YouTube we'd all be saying how disgraceful it is and how it should not be allowed. However because we know this particular person, in a posting sense, it is as though they get a pass. Scary indeed.
I have no time for bigots, or those that defend it. When we allow these behaviours to fester we lose the right to scream blue murder when they manifest themselves
YOUR country? It is just as much any muslim citizen's country as it is yours.
I have never heard of this guy until I read this blog and that is all I have read of his....but reading what you posted I do agree with part of what he is saying and I didn't even know he had stated this
Interesting. Let's look at the piece again that you 'agree with part of':
The preservation and growth of Western civilization, from which most races have benefitted, but which was created in the main by only one: the white race White liberation from the oppression of minorities, particularly from the Jewish-Occupied Government (JOG) of not only America, but of the entire Western world
Real free speech, which allows talking about all 'taboo' subjects, particularly including the role of Jewish influence in the world, Jewish dominance of institutions and their stranglehold on the mass media, the Holocaust lie, the genocide and culturcide perpetrated by Jews against whites, the nazi-like behavior of Israel, and racial inferiority and superiority
A return to Constitutional government, as expressed by the Founders' 'original intent', and a rejection of the present day view of so many judges that the Constitution is a 'living document', ie, dead-letter.
Opposition to the so-called New World Order, which seeks dominance of the world by a small elite which is closely tied to bankers, large corporations and the rich, and which is represented by such secretive and exclusive but powerful groups as the Council on Foreign Relations, the Bilderbergers, the Trilateral Commission, the Roundtable groups, and the like Opposition to illegal immigration, which our government deliberately encourages, and which is overwhelming the Southwest (and indeed the entire nation) with millions of persons - mostly Mexicans -- whose gene pool is inferior and whose culture is hostile to that of the majority population of America.
Opposition to governmental anti-white discrimination (affirmative action and similar policies) Opposition to 'multiculturalism' and other forms of race-mixing whose evident intent is to destroy the white gene pool and cause Western society to self-destruct by exploding in racial war The right of all minorities to self-determination and their place in the sun
Actonite libertarianism, ie, the policy of maximizing individual freedom while keeping power as dispersed as reasonably possible so as to avoid the pitfall so well expressed by Lord Acton that 'power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely'
Scientific spiritualism, which seeks to put religion and psi phenomena on a scientific basis and thereby help mankind rediscover his place in the Cosmos in light of modern developments, and which seeks the rediscovery of the Great White Spirit of our ancestors which was the ultimate force behind the creation of Western civilization
Notice that most EVERYTHING you put on here is what I DO NOT AGREE WITH?..... :?
“We the people are the rightful masters of bothCongress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
your opinion has been duley noted,thank you but I am still of my own opinion and btw why don't you ask a surviver of 9/11 or any other terrorist attack how they feel.
Godfather.
Do you mean ask them what they think of muslims? Or Islamophobia? Or...?
Would you like me to track down a family member of one of the muslims killed in the towers?
Here, YOU pick one and ask. They're mostly white, no need to be afraid. http://www.peacefultomorrows.org/catego ... er-stories
I'm sure some of these people, over 200 family members of victims of 9/11, would love to hear you explain how their family members death is used to support your bigotry.
In fact, they have a dedicated, ongoing campaign against Islamophobia.
Members of Peaceful Tomorrows have shared their voices on issues affecting immigrants as a result of 9/11, rejecting Islamophobia as well as the stereotyping and scapegoating that sometimes accompanied otherwise positive and meaningful reform efforts.
Most recently, members of Peaceful Tomorrows have expressed their support for the creation of an Islamic Cultural Center in Lower Manhattan, referred to as the “Ground Zero Mosque.” As a wave of Islamophobia swept the country in 2010, the cultural center became a national issue, making it clear that a larger public education campaign was needed. We forged new kinds of partnerships to bring to new audiences our message about the vital necessity for restoring the rule of law and defending civil liberties and religious freedoms. Protection of religious freedom and human rights strengthens our nation; denying Muslims their rights is un-American. Repressive policies that grow out of fear and hatred play into the hands of the terrorists.
Peaceful Tomorrows; which is coordinated by leftwing public relations specialist David Fenton, and funded by the left grant-giving Tides Foundation; is an antiwar support organization founded by individuals who lost loved ones in the terrorist attacks of September 11th. Formed as a supposedly nonpartisan group opposing the War on Terror.
The Tides Foundation itself is just another foundation in a lengthy line of liberal grant-giving groups that finance far-left causes and organizations. Tides also provides support to Islamic Networks, Inc. – a public relations institute whose aim is to convince Americans that Islam doesn't oppress women, despite the evidence to the contrary. In addition, Tides funds the Democratic Justice Fund, founded in cooperation with George Soros’ Open Society Institute. Also receiving grants from Tides are such bigwigs as various chapters of the ACLU and The National Lawyers Guild, and MoveOn.org, which compared Bush to Hitler. WHAT! (I thought only crazy right wingers did that...gezz I guess Obama is NOT the only prez compared to Hitler as I have read on the MT).
Heading up the direction of Peaceful Tomorrows’ media blitz is David Fenton. Fenton has had his hands in all things big and small with regards to the media campaigns of some of the aforementioned liberal activist groups.
Aside from simply covering various aspects of the counter-culture and anti-war movements, Fenton and his Liberation News Service associates, headed by Allen Young and George Cavalletto, were sympathetic to the radical anti-establishment organization Students for a Democratic Society, and set out to run their own group with the goal of effecting political change to the tune of their overtly Marxist philosophy. Fenton’s political ideology, as well, found him as a member of the White Panther Party, the Caucasian counterpart of the infamous Black Panthers. In the 60’s and early 70’s, Fenton also snapped photographs for the Weathermen, a Communist-driven splinter faction of Students for a Democratic Society, whose anarchistic national views led to their bombing of the National Guard offices in Washington, D.C., the U.S. Capitol building, the New York City Police Headquarters and the Pentagon.
PEACEful Tomorrow? I will have to check this out more closely.....
“We the people are the rightful masters of bothCongress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
your opinion has been duley noted,thank you but I am still of my own opinion and btw why don't you ask a surviver of 9/11 or any other terrorist attack how they feel.
Godfather.
Do you mean ask them what they think of muslims? Or Islamophobia? Or...?
Would you like me to track down a family member of one of the muslims killed in the towers?
Here, YOU pick one and ask. They're mostly white, no need to be afraid. http://www.peacefultomorrows.org/catego ... er-stories
I'm sure some of these people, over 200 family members of victims of 9/11, would love to hear you explain how their family members death is used to support your bigotry.
In fact, they have a dedicated, ongoing campaign against Islamophobia.
Members of Peaceful Tomorrows have shared their voices on issues affecting immigrants as a result of 9/11, rejecting Islamophobia as well as the stereotyping and scapegoating that sometimes accompanied otherwise positive and meaningful reform efforts.
Most recently, members of Peaceful Tomorrows have expressed their support for the creation of an Islamic Cultural Center in Lower Manhattan, referred to as the “Ground Zero Mosque.” As a wave of Islamophobia swept the country in 2010, the cultural center became a national issue, making it clear that a larger public education campaign was needed. We forged new kinds of partnerships to bring to new audiences our message about the vital necessity for restoring the rule of law and defending civil liberties and religious freedoms. Protection of religious freedom and human rights strengthens our nation; denying Muslims their rights is un-American. Repressive policies that grow out of fear and hatred play into the hands of the terrorists.
Peaceful Tomorrows; which is coordinated by leftwing public relations specialist David Fenton, and funded by the left grant-giving Tides Foundation; is an antiwar support organization founded by individuals who lost loved ones in the terrorist attacks of September 11th. Formed as a supposedly nonpartisan group opposing the War on Terror.
The Tides Foundation itself is just another foundation in a lengthy line of liberal grant-giving groups that finance far-left causes and organizations. Tides also provides support to Islamic Networks, Inc. – a public relations institute whose aim is to convince Americans that Islam doesn't oppress women, despite the evidence to the contrary. In addition, Tides funds the Democratic Justice Fund, founded in cooperation with George Soros’ Open Society Institute. Also receiving grants from Tides are such bigwigs as various chapters of the ACLU and The National Lawyers Guild, and MoveOn.org, which compared Bush to Hitler. WHAT! (I thought only crazy right wingers did that...gezz I guess Obama is NOT the only prez compared to Hitler as I have read on the MT).
Heading up the direction of Peaceful Tomorrows’ media blitz is David Fenton. Fenton has had his hands in all things big and small with regards to the media campaigns of some of the aforementioned liberal activist groups.
Aside from simply covering various aspects of the counter-culture and anti-war movements, Fenton and his Liberation News Service associates, headed by Allen Young and George Cavalletto, were sympathetic to the radical anti-establishment organization Students for a Democratic Society, and set out to run their own group with the goal of effecting political change to the tune of their overtly Marxist philosophy. Fenton’s political ideology, as well, found him as a member of the White Panther Party, the Caucasian counterpart of the infamous Black Panthers. In the 60’s and early 70’s, Fenton also snapped photographs for the Weathermen, a Communist-driven splinter faction of Students for a Democratic Society, whose anarchistic national views led to their bombing of the National Guard offices in Washington, D.C., the U.S. Capitol building, the New York City Police Headquarters and the Pentagon.
PEACEful Tomorrow? I will have to check this out more closely.....
your whole post is straight up bullshit, why don't we keep the personal attacks out of the debate,I said I don't want muslims in my country (if you trust them in yours thats fine) and from there it's been personal attacks and attacks on Christanity ...wtf ??
your opinion has been duley noted,thank you but I am still of my own opinion and btw why don't you ask a surviver of 9/11 or any other terrorist attack how they feel.
Godfather.
Im with Cosmo on this topic Godfather, I appreciate your candor, but your posts are getting uglier and uglier man. :?
Are you simply dismissing the ideas that many are posing here -- that there are billions of Muslims in the world, and to condone the entire class is a bit extreme?
well my friend all I can say is who is really "living in fear" ? while my thoughts and prayers go out to all who were affected by 9/11 and other attacks my feeling on the attacks are mine and I can honestly say many people feel the same as I do and do not support the idea of a islamic cultural center on ground zero,is there a nazi cultural center in england or one at ground zero known as awswitz ? (spelling)...and no I do not support the nazi idelism so don't even go there.
Godfather.
Big difference between Nazis and Muslims matey. The majority of Muslims in the World are no threat to anyone.
Radical Muslims who would use violence to further their agenda are a tiny minority, probably no more than the number of radical Zionists, or neo-Nazis in the World. It'd be interesting to see the statistics. I know that far-right racist groups are a big problem now in Eastern Europe and Russia.
your whole post is straight up bullshit, why don't we keep the personal attacks out of the debate,I said I don't want muslims in my country (if you trust them in yours thats fine) and from there it's been personal attacks and attacks on Christanity ...wtf ??
your opinion has been duley noted,thank you but I am still of my own opinion and btw why don't you ask a surviver of 9/11 or any other terrorist attack how they feel.
Godfather.
Im with Cosmo on this topic Godfather, I appreciate your candor, but your posts are getting uglier and uglier man. :?
Are you simply dismissing the ideas that many are posing here -- that there are billions of Muslims in the world, and to condone the entire class is a bit extreme?
thanks JP,you and Cosmo are very fair I'll take time to think about this.
Peaceful Tomorrows; which is coordinated by leftwing public relations specialist David Fenton, and funded by the left grant-giving Tides Foundation; is an antiwar support organization founded by individuals who lost loved ones in the terrorist attacks of September 11th. Formed as a supposedly nonpartisan group opposing the War on Terror.
The Tides Foundation itself is just another foundation in a lengthy line of liberal grant-giving groups that finance far-left causes and organizations. Tides also provides support to Islamic Networks, Inc. – a public relations institute whose aim is to convince Americans that Islam doesn't oppress women, despite the evidence to the contrary. In addition, Tides funds the Democratic Justice Fund, founded in cooperation with George Soros’ Open Society Institute. Also receiving grants from Tides are such bigwigs as various chapters of the ACLU and The National Lawyers Guild, and MoveOn.org, which compared Bush to Hitler. WHAT! (I thought only crazy right wingers did that...gezz I guess Obama is NOT the only prez compared to Hitler as I have read on the MT).
Heading up the direction of Peaceful Tomorrows’ media blitz is David Fenton. Fenton has had his hands in all things big and small with regards to the media campaigns of some of the aforementioned liberal activist groups.
Aside from simply covering various aspects of the counter-culture and anti-war movements, Fenton and his Liberation News Service associates, headed by Allen Young and George Cavalletto, were sympathetic to the radical anti-establishment organization Students for a Democratic Society, and set out to run their own group with the goal of effecting political change to the tune of their overtly Marxist philosophy. Fenton’s political ideology, as well, found him as a member of the White Panther Party, the Caucasian counterpart of the infamous Black Panthers. In the 60’s and early 70’s, Fenton also snapped photographs for the Weathermen, a Communist-driven splinter faction of Students for a Democratic Society, whose anarchistic national views led to their bombing of the National Guard offices in Washington, D.C., the U.S. Capitol building, the New York City Police Headquarters and the Pentagon.
PEACEful Tomorrow? I will have to check this out more closely.....
I have never heard of this guy until I read this blog and that is all I have read of his....but reading what you posted I do agree with part of what he is saying and I didn't even know he had stated this
Interesting. Let's look at the piece again that you 'agree with part of':
The preservation and growth of Western civilization, from which most races have benefitted, but which was created in the main by only one: the white race White liberation from the oppression of minorities, particularly from the Jewish-Occupied Government (JOG) of not only America, but of the entire Western world
Real free speech, which allows talking about all 'taboo' subjects, particularly including the role of Jewish influence in the world, Jewish dominance of institutions and their stranglehold on the mass media, the Holocaust lie, the genocide and culturcide perpetrated by Jews against whites, the nazi-like behavior of Israel, and racial inferiority and superiority
A return to Constitutional government, as expressed by the Founders' 'original intent', and a rejection of the present day view of so many judges that the Constitution is a 'living document', ie, dead-letter.
Opposition to the so-called New World Order, which seeks dominance of the world by a small elite which is closely tied to bankers, large corporations and the rich, and which is represented by such secretive and exclusive but powerful groups as the Council on Foreign Relations, the Bilderbergers, the Trilateral Commission, the Roundtable groups, and the like Opposition to illegal immigration, which our government deliberately encourages, and which is overwhelming the Southwest (and indeed the entire nation) with millions of persons - mostly Mexicans -- whose gene pool is inferior and whose culture is hostile to that of the majority population of America.
Opposition to governmental anti-white discrimination (affirmative action and similar policies) Opposition to 'multiculturalism' and other forms of race-mixing whose evident intent is to destroy the white gene pool and cause Western society to self-destruct by exploding in racial war The right of all minorities to self-determination and their place in the sun
Actonite libertarianism, ie, the policy of maximizing individual freedom while keeping power as dispersed as reasonably possible so as to avoid the pitfall so well expressed by Lord Acton that 'power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely'
Scientific spiritualism, which seeks to put religion and psi phenomena on a scientific basis and thereby help mankind rediscover his place in the Cosmos in light of modern developments, and which seeks the rediscovery of the Great White Spirit of our ancestors which was the ultimate force behind the creation of Western civilization
Notice that most EVERYTHING you put on here is what I DO NOT AGREE WITH?..... :?
Couldn't agree with you more. I cannot for the life of me understand people saying, "I know you're a bigotry, but I respect your honesty" type of attitude being shown here.
If this was someone expressing similar views on the street and was posted on YouTube we'd all be saying how disgraceful it is and how it should not be allowed. However because we know this particular person, in a posting sense, it is as though they get a pass. Scary indeed.
I don't think GF (as I gather he is the person), is getting a pass here. He has been seriously challenged by most.
I much prefer someone being straight about their xenophobia, racism, homophobia, etc. than those that may say "I'm not racist, I've got black friends but...." or "I love everyone and I'm not xenophobic but these wetbacks are taking over my town...." Professing one thing but really 'being' the other.
Knowing where people truly stand, even if at opposite ends, can be the basis of an interesting debate even I find some views posted here totally outrageous and disgraceful, as you say (and some are just way too OTT and extreme for me to even consider them as part of a discussion). A good debate can also lead to a bit of eye opening maybe? Maybe get one's self to think about one's attitude, question certain perceptions/thoughts. This goes for all debates/discussions, not just this one.
Hey GF, you live in a state that was stolen from Mexico so why dnt YOU GET THE FUCK OUT OF THERE COUNTRY. Ya, your post smell like horse shit too... (threw in a couple of emoticons for ya)
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I don't live in Canada... and I don't have a problem walking past a Mosque. Just like i don't have a problem walking past a church or a Temple. I think it's because I'm neither afraid or paranoid.
Actually, i'm more afraid of an American with a gun that will gladly exchange my life for the few peices of paper in my wallet.
Hail, Hail!!!
yes, I'm in Winnipeg Manitoba. Home of the Jets, Neil Young, The Guess Who, and the Almighty Mosquito and the Unholy Winter.
No, it honestly has never crossed my mind. I know there are some extremist organizations in Canada, maybe not Winnipeg, but at least one or two were busted in Toronto concocting some nastiness, but I have never had any thoughts of nervousness or paranoia or fear when around anyone.
I'm a little more standoffish with the drunk bums in the downtown area than anything else.
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
I already addressed this point on page one of this thread when I provided a long list of Muslims and Muslim groups condemning the murder in London. viewtopic.php?f=13&t=208751#p5067042
Clearly he chose to ignore it.
You constantly post articles from far right wackjobs and professed Islamophobes. Why is that? You clearly seek these websites out. These aren't the type of websites people just stumble across. One of your favourites, Debbie Schlussel, is a self-confessed Islamophobe who says that those people - "these hateful, privileged brats" - killed at Utoya in Norway by Anders Brevik, deserved what they got because they were "HAMAS collaborators" who "sided with Jew-killers".
'...she famously responded to Osama bin Laden's death by quipping "1 down, 1.8 billion to go." When a family of West Bank settlers were murdered earlier this year, she approvingly quoted PM Netanyahu's son's remarks that "terror has a religion and it is Islam” and “not all Muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslims."
You then post a webpage by a holocaust denier who is lauded by neo-Nazis and whose artcles appear on the racist neo-Nazi website Stormfront.
Practically every link you provide in your constant attacks on minority groups is a link to an extremist individual or hate-group.
So what's your story, Aerial? Do you have ties to any far-right, neo-Nazi groups, or the KKK?
Interesting. Let's look at the piece again that you 'agree with part of':
The preservation and growth of Western civilization, from which most races have benefitted, but which was created in the main by only one: the white race
White liberation from the oppression of minorities, particularly from the Jewish-Occupied Government (JOG) of not only America, but of the entire Western world
Real free speech, which allows talking about all 'taboo' subjects, particularly including the role of Jewish influence in the world, Jewish dominance of institutions and their stranglehold on the mass media, the Holocaust lie, the genocide and culturcide perpetrated by Jews against whites, the nazi-like behavior of Israel, and racial inferiority and superiority
A return to Constitutional government, as expressed by the Founders' 'original intent', and a rejection of the present day view of so many judges that the Constitution is a 'living document', ie, dead-letter.
Opposition to the so-called New World Order, which seeks dominance of the world by a small elite which is closely tied to bankers, large corporations and the rich, and which is represented by such secretive and exclusive but powerful groups as the Council on Foreign Relations, the Bilderbergers, the Trilateral Commission, the Roundtable groups, and the like
Opposition to illegal immigration, which our government deliberately encourages, and which is overwhelming the Southwest (and indeed the entire nation) with millions of persons - mostly Mexicans -- whose gene pool is inferior and whose culture is hostile to that of the majority population of America.
Opposition to governmental anti-white discrimination (affirmative action and similar policies)
Opposition to 'multiculturalism' and other forms of race-mixing whose evident intent is to destroy the white gene pool and cause Western society to self-destruct by exploding in racial war
The right of all minorities to self-determination and their place in the sun
Actonite libertarianism, ie, the policy of maximizing individual freedom while keeping power as dispersed as reasonably possible so as to avoid the pitfall so well expressed by Lord Acton that 'power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely'
Scientific spiritualism, which seeks to put religion and psi phenomena on a scientific basis and thereby help mankind rediscover his place in the Cosmos in light of modern developments, and which seeks the rediscovery of the Great White Spirit of our ancestors which was the ultimate force behind the creation of Western civilization
Great White Spirit??? is that the God of the North?
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
very cool,I believe you and thanks for your answer.....who else but a real rock n roll fan even brings up the "Guess Who" my favorite album is "rockin the guess who" awesome ! song "running bear"
Godfather.
I went on a really nice walk in Golden Ears Provincial Park on Sunday with my mom. There was a lot of Muslim families there (we did notice because there were several large groups of adults and children, and many smaller Muslim families as well), and mentioned that it must be a favorite recreation spot (aka out of the way place to plot and scheme) among Vancouver's Muslim community), and I can tell you, when we kept passing them on the trail to and from the waterfall, I was seriously quaking in my hiking boots. I'm pretty sure a few of them had bombs in those light backpacks, and not light picnic lunches, as they'd like to have us believe. Of course they were very friendly when we exchanged the 'hiker's hello' when passing them all, but I'm sure that's just a part of the ruse. Boy, was I ever relieved when we made it back to the car alive!
I'm a bit disappointed to see anyone giving some of these admitted bigots ANY slack. It's borderline enabling. They should be ridiculed and ostracized for their open intolerance. It's not really something to just shrug off. These people have influence on our younger generation and should not be able to laugh it off when they're proven to be wrong. A 'lol' emoticon and a little snide comment doesn't get you off the hook for perpetuating attitudes that result in abuse, oppression, murder, war.....not in my books anyway.
YOUR country? It is just as much any muslim citizen's country as it is yours. There is an Islamic Academy just down the road from me....it's next to a buddhist temple. there is a 'Mediterranean market' just down the road where they sell halal meats and have hundreds of hookahs lining the tops of the produce displays
your opinion has been duley noted,thank you but I am still of my own opinion and btw why don't you ask a surviver of 9/11 or any other terrorist attack how they feel.
Godfather.
so you assume that all families of terrorist victims feel the same way you do?
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
is that exactly what I thought I read."
Would you like me to track down a family member of one of the muslims killed in the towers?
Here, YOU pick one and ask. They're mostly white, no need to be afraid.
http://www.peacefultomorrows.org/catego ... er-stories
I'm sure some of these people, over 200 family members of victims of 9/11, would love to hear you explain how their family members death is used to support your bigotry.
In fact, they have a dedicated, ongoing campaign against Islamophobia.
http://www.peacefultomorrows.org/catego ... lamophobia
Islamophobia
Members of Peaceful Tomorrows have shared their voices on issues affecting immigrants as a result of 9/11, rejecting Islamophobia as well as the stereotyping and scapegoating that sometimes accompanied otherwise positive and meaningful reform efforts.
Most recently, members of Peaceful Tomorrows have expressed their support for the creation of an Islamic Cultural Center in Lower Manhattan, referred to as the “Ground Zero Mosque.” As a wave of Islamophobia swept the country in 2010, the cultural center became a national issue, making it clear that a larger public education campaign was needed. We forged new kinds of partnerships to bring to new audiences our message about the vital necessity for restoring the rule of law and defending civil liberties and religious freedoms. Protection of religious freedom and human rights strengthens our nation; denying Muslims their rights is un-American. Repressive policies that grow out of fear and hatred play into the hands of the terrorists.
I'd like to hear the Don's reply to this.
no I'm sure all do not but the few I do know feel the same as I do.
Godfather.
well my friend all I can say is who is really "living in fear" ? while my thoughts and prayers go out to all who were affected by 9/11 and other attacks my feeling on the attacks are mine and I can honestly say many people feel the same as I do and do not support the idea of a islamic cultural center on ground zero,is there a nazi cultural center in england or one at ground zero known as awswitz ? (spelling)...and no I do not support the nazi idelism so don't even go there.
Godfather.
Couldn't agree with you more. I cannot for the life of me understand people saying, "I know you're a bigotry, but I respect your honesty" type of attitude being shown here.
If this was someone expressing similar views on the street and was posted on YouTube we'd all be saying how disgraceful it is and how it should not be allowed. However because we know this particular person, in a posting sense, it is as though they get a pass. Scary indeed.
I have no time for bigots, or those that defend it. When we allow these behaviours to fester we lose the right to scream blue murder when they manifest themselves
YOUR country? It is just as much any muslim citizen's country as it is yours.
horse shit.....
Godfather.
Notice that most EVERYTHING you put on here is what I DO NOT AGREE WITH?..... :?
Peaceful Tomorrows; which is coordinated by leftwing public relations specialist David Fenton, and funded by the left grant-giving Tides Foundation; is an antiwar support organization founded by individuals who lost loved ones in the terrorist attacks of September 11th. Formed as a supposedly nonpartisan group opposing the War on Terror.
The Tides Foundation itself is just another foundation in a lengthy line of liberal grant-giving groups that finance far-left causes and organizations. Tides also provides support to Islamic Networks, Inc. – a public relations institute whose aim is to convince Americans that Islam doesn't oppress women, despite the evidence to the contrary. In addition, Tides funds the Democratic Justice Fund, founded in cooperation with George Soros’ Open Society Institute. Also receiving grants from Tides are such bigwigs as various chapters of the ACLU and The National Lawyers Guild, and MoveOn.org, which compared Bush to Hitler. WHAT! (I thought only crazy right wingers did that...gezz I guess Obama is NOT the only prez compared to Hitler as I have read on the MT).
Heading up the direction of Peaceful Tomorrows’ media blitz is David Fenton. Fenton has had his hands in all things big and small with regards to the media campaigns of some of the aforementioned liberal activist groups.
Aside from simply covering various aspects of the counter-culture and anti-war movements, Fenton and his Liberation News Service associates, headed by Allen Young and George Cavalletto, were sympathetic to the radical anti-establishment organization Students for a Democratic Society, and set out to run their own group with the goal of effecting political change to the tune of their overtly Marxist philosophy. Fenton’s political ideology, as well, found him as a member of the White Panther Party, the Caucasian counterpart of the infamous Black Panthers. In the 60’s and early 70’s, Fenton also snapped photographs for the Weathermen, a Communist-driven splinter faction of Students for a Democratic Society, whose anarchistic national views led to their bombing of the National Guard offices in Washington, D.C., the U.S. Capitol building, the New York City Police Headquarters and the Pentagon.
PEACEful Tomorrow? I will have to check this out more closely.....
wow...don't sound so peaceful to me.
Godfather.
Im with Cosmo on this topic Godfather, I appreciate your candor, but your posts are getting uglier and uglier man. :?
Are you simply dismissing the ideas that many are posing here -- that there are billions of Muslims in the world, and to condone the entire class is a bit extreme?
Big difference between Nazis and Muslims matey. The majority of Muslims in the World are no threat to anyone.
Radical Muslims who would use violence to further their agenda are a tiny minority, probably no more than the number of radical Zionists, or neo-Nazis in the World. It'd be interesting to see the statistics. I know that far-right racist groups are a big problem now in Eastern Europe and Russia.
thanks JP,you and Cosmo are very fair I'll take time to think about this.
Godfather.
Link please.
Most?
I don't think GF (as I gather he is the person), is getting a pass here. He has been seriously challenged by most.
I much prefer someone being straight about their xenophobia, racism, homophobia, etc. than those that may say "I'm not racist, I've got black friends but...." or "I love everyone and I'm not xenophobic but these wetbacks are taking over my town...." Professing one thing but really 'being' the other.
Knowing where people truly stand, even if at opposite ends, can be the basis of an interesting debate even I find some views posted here totally outrageous and disgraceful, as you say (and some are just way too OTT and extreme for me to even consider them as part of a discussion). A good debate can also lead to a bit of eye opening maybe? Maybe get one's self to think about one's attitude, question certain perceptions/thoughts. This goes for all debates/discussions, not just this one.