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  • Moonpig
    Moonpig Posts: 659
    You fumbled with the quote feature, Godfather.

    You might wish to edit your last entry so that it reads the way it should.

    he's just trolling now.

    Well all else fails, return to type
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Moonpig wrote:
    You fumbled with the quote feature, Godfather.

    You might wish to edit your last entry so that it reads the way it should.

    he's just trolling now.

    Well all else fails, return to type

    ohhhh geeezzzzz dude really, does my opinion of islam's make you that angry....go out outside and have a smoke and relax unless you just enjoy starting shit with me in which case I feel special :lol:
    but really save your warm and fuzzy feelings for somebody gives a shit. :corn:


    Godfather.
  • redrock
    redrock Posts: 18,341
    edited June 2013
    Looks like 'the west' has quite integrated muslim 'ways' our everyday life....

    http://sonuduhan.blogspot.co.uk/2013/05/thats-how-you-win-argument-on-internet.html

    With rejection of muslims (send them back where they come from), which of the list are you OK to do without?
    Post edited by redrock on
  • aerial
    aerial Posts: 2,319
    brianlux wrote:
    Baseball and sports are a big part of your culture. A good one too!

    It's true, baseball as we know it today is very American but the roots of baseball go back to old French and British games. Jazz and blues are our one true cultural invention (and what a great one it is!)- created by African Americans- a people we and the British enslaved and forced to reside here.

    Remember it was the Africans them self that sold there own people to America to BE SLAVES... :fp:
    “We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
  • mikepegg44
    mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    redrock wrote:
    Looks like 'the west' has quite integrated muslim 'ways' our everyday life....

    http://sonuduhan.blogspot.co.uk/2013/05/thats-how-you-win-argument-on-internet.html

    With rejection of muslims (send them back where they come from), which of the list are you OK to do without?


    I certainly don't want to reject all things muslim, but what about that list comes from their faith? Could the people who discovered/invented those things not have done so without their faith?
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  • JonnyPistachio
    JonnyPistachio Florida Posts: 10,219
    aerial wrote:
    brianlux wrote:
    Baseball and sports are a big part of your culture. A good one too!

    It's true, baseball as we know it today is very American but the roots of baseball go back to old French and British games. Jazz and blues are our one true cultural invention (and what a great one it is!)- created by African Americans- a people we and the British enslaved and forced to reside here.

    Remember it was the Africans them self that sold there own people to America to BE SLAVES... :fp:

    That's all you got out of that post?
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  • aerial
    aerial Posts: 2,319
    Byrnzie wrote:
    aerial wrote:
    people are becoming fat and unhealthy because of additive, preservatives, and GMO crops
    At least right now we have the right to get fat...

    No, people are becoming fat and unhealthy because they eat shit, like K.F.C, and drive everywhere instead of getting off their lazy arses and walking, or riding a bicycle.

    If I rode a bike around my area I would more than likely get ran over by a car...that's why I got a treadmill for Christmas.....Why so judgmental towards people that just want to have a dinner of there choice....and if they get fat so be it.......we have a right to happiness as long as we don't hurt someone else...
    “We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
  • aerial
    aerial Posts: 2,319
    Byrnzie wrote:
    aerial wrote:
    people are becoming fat and unhealthy because of additive, preservatives, and GMO crops
    At least right now we have the right to get fat...

    No, people are becoming fat and unhealthy because they eat shit, like K.F.C, and drive everywhere instead of getting off their lazy arses and walking, or riding a bicycle.

    Thanks for getting to this for me, Byrnzie. You never addressed the last portion of her statement which, at a very minimum, deserves some form of response. I guess because she had responded to my post... I'll do it. Sheesh.

    Aerial, I might be confused (so forgive me if I'm wrong), but I'm pretty sure you are one of the God-fearing types on this forum. If so... why would you accept gluttony- a sin- as a freedom or right? God doesn't approve of people stuffing their faces and sitting on their asses. He probably doesn't approve of people picking and choosing from the appropriate Christian behaviours as if they were options at a buffet table either.


    I never said I was without sin...God will be the judge in the end....

    Now if you think I should not except gluttony do you also think I should not except homosexuality?

    Are you picking and choosing?
    “We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    aerial wrote:
    Byrnzie wrote:
    aerial wrote:
    people are becoming fat and unhealthy because of additive, preservatives, and GMO crops
    At least right now we have the right to get fat...

    No, people are becoming fat and unhealthy because they eat shit, like K.F.C, and drive everywhere instead of getting off their lazy arses and walking, or riding a bicycle.

    If I rode a bike around my area I would more than likely get ran over by a car...that's why I got a treadmill for Christmas.....Why so judgmental towards people that just want to have a dinner of there choice....and if they get fat so be it.......we have a right to happiness as long as we don't hurt someone else...

    But you ARE hurting "someone else"! Well, not you but your government is.
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    redrock wrote:
    Looks like 'the west' has quite integrated muslim 'ways' our everyday life....

    http://sonuduhan.blogspot.co.uk/2013/05/thats-how-you-win-argument-on-internet.html

    With rejection of muslims (send them back where they come from), which of the list are you OK to do without?


    well I couldn't open the link but I still stand by my beliefs (get them out of here)

    Godfather.
  • peacefrompaul
    peacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    aerial wrote:
    brianlux wrote:
    Baseball and sports are a big part of your culture. A good one too!

    It's true, baseball as we know it today is very American but the roots of baseball go back to old French and British games. Jazz and blues are our one true cultural invention (and what a great one it is!)- created by African Americans- a people we and the British enslaved and forced to reside here.

    Remember it was the Africans them self that sold there own people to America to BE SLAVES... :fp:

    Not necessarily, but does that make it any more right?

    :?
  • riotgrl
    riotgrl LOUISVILLE Posts: 1,895
    aerial wrote:
    brianlux wrote:
    Baseball and sports are a big part of your culture. A good one too!

    It's true, baseball as we know it today is very American but the roots of baseball go back to old French and British games. Jazz and blues are our one true cultural invention (and what a great one it is!)- created by African Americans- a people we and the British enslaved and forced to reside here.

    Remember it was the Africans them self that sold there own people to America to BE SLAVES... :fp:

    In many other areas of the world, including Africa, slavery was more similar to indentured servitude rather than the multi-generational slavery endorsed by many Americans, especially Christian Americans. Christian Americans who used the Bible to condone and support turning human beings into property. Not a proud part of American culture.
    Are we getting something out of this all-encompassing trip?

    Seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned...

    I AM MINE
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,659
    aerial wrote:
    brianlux wrote:
    Baseball and sports are a big part of your culture. A good one too!

    It's true, baseball as we know it today is very American but the roots of baseball go back to old French and British games. Jazz and blues are our one true cultural invention (and what a great one it is!)- created by African Americans- a people we and the British enslaved and forced to reside here.

    Remember it was the Africans them self that sold there own people to America to BE SLAVES... :fp:
    riotgrl wrote:
    In many other areas of the world, including Africa, slavery was more similar to indentured servitude rather than the multi-generational slavery endorsed by many Americans, especially Christian Americans. Christian Americans who used the Bible to condone and support turning human beings into property. Not a proud part of American culture.

    Thank you, riotgrl!

    aerial, if we're going to get into a discussion about who was mainly responsible for slavery in the US, I'm going to have to pass.

    Long live jazz and the blues!
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • aerial
    aerial Posts: 2,319
    I wonder if there was ever a race that was not slaved at sometime in history? Not say that is an excuse.....


    When Christians were slaves to the Muslims the Muslims just worked them to death because Christian Slaves were so cheap...
    The Untold Story of White Slavery

    Whites have forgotten what blacks take pains to remember.



    .....From a number of sources, therefore, Prof. Davis estimates that the death rate was about 20 percent per year. Slaves had no access to women, so replacement was exclusively through capture. His conclusion: "etween 1530 and 1780 there were almost certainly a million and quite possibly as many as a million and a quarter white, European Christians enslaved by the Muslims of the Barbary Coast." This considerably exceeds the figure of 800,000 Africans generally accepted as having been transported to the North American colonies and, later, to the United States.


    The European powers were unable to stop this traffic. Prof. Davis reports that in the late 1700s, they had a better record of controlling the trade, but there was an upturn of white slavery during the chaos of the Napoleonic wars.

    American shipping was not exempt from predation either. Only in 1815, after two wars against them, were American sailors free of the Barbary pirates. These wars were significant operations for the young republic; one campaign is remembered in the words "to the shores of Tripoli" in the Marine hymn. When the French took over Algiers in 1830, there were still 120 whites slaves in the bagno.

    Why is there so little interest in Mediterranean slavery while scholarship and reflection on black slavery never ends? As Prof. Davis explains, white slaves with non-white masters simply do no fit "the master narrative of European imperialism." The victimization schemes so dear to academics require white wickedness, not white suffering.

    http://www.thebirdman.org/Index/Others/ ... lavery.htm
    “We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    Godfather. wrote:
    redrock wrote:
    Looks like 'the west' has quite integrated muslim 'ways' our everyday life....

    http://sonuduhan.blogspot.co.uk/2013/05/thats-how-you-win-argument-on-internet.html

    With rejection of muslims (send them back where they come from), which of the list are you OK to do without?


    well I couldn't open the link but I still stand by my beliefs (get them out of here)

    Godfather.

    God, how awesome would it be if you ended up having Muslim neighbors In San Diego. I know they're there, that would be sick! :corn:
  • riotgrl
    riotgrl LOUISVILLE Posts: 1,895
    aerial wrote:
    I wonder if there was ever a race that was not slaved at sometime in history? Not say that is an excuse.....


    When Christians were slaves to the Muslims the Muslims just worked them to death because Christian Slaves were so cheap...
    The Untold Story of White Slavery

    Whites have forgotten what blacks take pains to remember.



    .....From a number of sources, therefore, Prof. Davis estimates that the death rate was about 20 percent per year. Slaves had no access to women, so replacement was exclusively through capture. His conclusion: "etween 1530 and 1780 there were almost certainly a million and quite possibly as many as a million and a quarter white, European Christians enslaved by the Muslims of the Barbary Coast." This considerably exceeds the figure of 800,000 Africans generally accepted as having been transported to the North American colonies and, later, to the United States.


    The European powers were unable to stop this traffic. Prof. Davis reports that in the late 1700s, they had a better record of controlling the trade, but there was an upturn of white slavery during the chaos of the Napoleonic wars.

    American shipping was not exempt from predation either. Only in 1815, after two wars against them, were American sailors free of the Barbary pirates. These wars were significant operations for the young republic; one campaign is remembered in the words "to the shores of Tripoli" in the Marine hymn. When the French took over Algiers in 1830, there were still 120 whites slaves in the bagno.

    Why is there so little interest in Mediterranean slavery while scholarship and reflection on black slavery never ends? As Prof. Davis explains, white slaves with non-white masters simply do no fit "the master narrative of European imperialism." The victimization schemes so dear to academics require white wickedness, not white suffering.

    http://www.thebirdman.org/Index/Others/ ... lavery.htm

    You conveniently forgot to include the numbers of black Africans that were enslaved because they were born into slavery while the white Christians did not have their children, grandchildren, great-grandchildren and on and on enslaved.
    Are we getting something out of this all-encompassing trip?

    Seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned...

    I AM MINE
  • Moonpig
    Moonpig Posts: 659
    badbrains wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    redrock wrote:
    Looks like 'the west' has quite integrated muslim 'ways' our everyday life....

    http://sonuduhan.blogspot.co.uk/2013/05/thats-how-you-win-argument-on-internet.html

    With rejection of muslims (send them back where they come from), which of the list are you OK to do without?


    well I couldn't open the link but I still stand by my beliefs (get them out of here)

    Godfather.


    God, how awesome would it be if you ended up having Muslim neighbors In San Diego. I know they're there, that would be sick! :corn:

    Ewwwww I smell a sitcom
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    Godfather. wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    You are in the same class as the Rev. Phelps Westboro Church clan with the only difference being, they hate Fags, you hate Muslims. To me, I really don't care who you hate... just own up to your hatred.
    I never said "hate" as I have said before hate in my opinion is a very strong word, yes I am pissed off and yes I disaprove of the actions by muslim people and yes I do not trust them due to their beliefs and violance that has been welll documented....and yes I want them out of my country,I know it sounds a little extream but this shit is just getting too friggin old and my opionon on the muslim has nothing to do with my Christan beliefs..although my reasons not to hate may be because of my Christan beliefs.

    Godfather.
    ...
    Sir, I hope you don't think I am 'twisting your words'... I can only go on the things you write here at face value... and that what you post is what is true in your heart.
    As I earlier stated, I applaud your taking ownership and accountability of your prejudices. Most people will drive that shit underground and pretend they 'love' mankind' and all that 'Good will towards men' bullshit, but, in truth, harbor those prejudices. You are honest with us on this and i, for one, appreciate your candidness.
    Some people disapprove of gays and want them out... others don't trust black folk and want them out. You don't like Muslims and want them out... even though you **say** you don't hate them... admit it, you hate them. Otherwise you would not want all of them out based upon the actions of a few of them.
    As far as the teaching of Jesus goes... you might want to re-acquaint yourself with Jesus' 'Sermon on The Mount'. It is tough to call yourself, 'Christian', if you reject the main tenent of Christ's words.
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  • aerial
    aerial Posts: 2,319
    riotgrl wrote:
    aerial wrote:
    I wonder if there was ever a race that was not slaved at sometime in history? Not say that is an excuse.....


    When Christians were slaves to the Muslims the Muslims just worked them to death because Christian Slaves were so cheap...
    The Untold Story of White Slavery

    Whites have forgotten what blacks take pains to remember.



    .....From a number of sources, therefore, Prof. Davis estimates that the death rate was about 20 percent per year. Slaves had no access to women, so replacement was exclusively through capture. His conclusion: "etween 1530 and 1780 there were almost certainly a million and quite possibly as many as a million and a quarter white, European Christians enslaved by the Muslims of the Barbary Coast." This considerably exceeds the figure of 800,000 Africans generally accepted as having been transported to the North American colonies and, later, to the United States.


    The European powers were unable to stop this traffic. Prof. Davis reports that in the late 1700s, they had a better record of controlling the trade, but there was an upturn of white slavery during the chaos of the Napoleonic wars.

    American shipping was not exempt from predation either. Only in 1815, after two wars against them, were American sailors free of the Barbary pirates. These wars were significant operations for the young republic; one campaign is remembered in the words "to the shores of Tripoli" in the Marine hymn. When the French took over Algiers in 1830, there were still 120 whites slaves in the bagno.

    Why is there so little interest in Mediterranean slavery while scholarship and reflection on black slavery never ends? As Prof. Davis explains, white slaves with non-white masters simply do no fit "the master narrative of European imperialism." The victimization schemes so dear to academics require white wickedness, not white suffering.

    http://www.thebirdman.org/Index/Others/ ... lavery.htm

    You conveniently forgot to include the numbers of black Africans that were enslaved because they were born into slavery while the white Christians did not have their children, grandchildren, great-grandchildren and on and on enslaved.

    Yeah you already posted that :?
    “We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Cosmo wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    You are in the same class as the Rev. Phelps Westboro Church clan with the only difference being, they hate Fags, you hate Muslims. To me, I really don't care who you hate... just own up to your hatred.
    I never said "hate" as I have said before hate in my opinion is a very strong word, yes I am pissed off and yes I disaprove of the actions by muslim people and yes I do not trust them due to their beliefs and violance that has been welll documented....and yes I want them out of my country,I know it sounds a little extream but this shit is just getting too friggin old and my opionon on the muslim has nothing to do with my Christan beliefs..although my reasons not to hate may be because of my Christan beliefs.

    Godfather.
    ...
    Sir, I hope you don't think I am 'twisting your words'... I can only go on the things you write here at face value... and that what you post is what is true in your heart.
    As I earlier stated, I applaud your taking ownership and accountability of your prejudices. Most people will drive that shit underground and pretend they 'love' mankind' and all that 'Good will towards men' bullshit, but, in truth, harbor those prejudices. You are honest with us on this and i, for one, appreciate your candidness.
    Some people disapprove of gays and want them out... others don't trust black folk and want them out. You don't like Muslims and want them out... even though you **say** you don't hate them... admit it, you hate them. Otherwise you would not want all of them out based upon the actions of a few of them.
    As far as the teaching of Jesus goes... you might want to re-acquaint yourself with Jesus' 'Sermon on The Mount'. It is tough to call yourself, 'Christian', if you reject the main tenent of Christ's words.

    ....yes I could be a better Christian (but then who couldn't), hate to me means about the same as damning some to hell and that my friend is way beyond me.
    as I have said before I don't trust them and I am pissed off at them for their terrorist attacks on our country and others,I'm pissed off because they come to the US and demand we change our laws and our way of believing (fuck em !)to suit their happy asses, they burn our flag and behead people and stream the video for all to see and the next thing ya know they want to be American citizens and again I say fuck em !!! let them stay where they come from and send the others back to re-join them.

    Godfather.
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