Islamophobia

Jason P

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

Jason P wrote:

:think:



:shock: :evil:

oh man, hopefully my sister doesn't marry that guy :fp:

you might be able to score some Bon Jovi tickets if she does.

aerial

Byrnzie wrote:

aerial wrote:

Remember it was the Africans them self that sold there own people to America to BE SLAVES... :fp:

Were you off sick from school on the day they taught you about the slave trade?

Then again, didn't you tell us that this subject was all you were taught for six years? Funny that after six years of being taught this subject that you still don't know anything about it.

Firstly, Africa isn't, and never was, a country. Secondly, before Europeans began colonizing West Africa the slave trade was largely consigned to East Africa, and was conducted by Arabs who controlled much of the area along the Horn of Africa, and transported them to the Middle East.
As for the Atlantic slave trade, this would never have occurred if Europeans hadn't begun flooding the interior of Africa with guns during the 16th-17th centuries and establishing trading routes into the interior, stoking tribal conflicts and then reaping the rewards. The majority of people sold as slaves were prisoners of war, and therefore outsiders to those doing the selling, a situation common in much of the World. And as for selling their own people, they were no more selling 'their own' than Europeans were 'killing their own' during the Holocaust.

Then again, so what? Does the fact that Africans played a part in this massive crime mean that you can wash your hands of it? Can the Nazis wash their hands of the holocaust due to the fact that some French played a part in it by rounding up and transporting Jews East to the concentration camps?

I don't have to wash my hand....I was never involved! Move on.....
by the way I was NEVER taught that anyone had slaves except white Americans....that is all they taught back in my day.....

mickeyrat

I'm afraid of christians who read more and act from the old testament than the new testament.

mikepegg44

don't know why but I thought of this song as I continually read this thread

Uh-uh-uh uh, uh, uh-uh uh-uh-uh
Johnny's in America
No tricks at the wheel
Uh-uh-uh uh, uh, uh-uh uh-uh-uh
Nobody needs anyone
They don't even just pretend
Uh-uh-uh uh, uh, uh-uh uh-uh-uh
Johnny's in America

[CHORUS]
I'm afraid of Americans
I'm afraid of the world
I'm afraid I can't help it
I'm afraid I can't
I'm afraid of Americans

Johnny's in America
Uh-uh-uh uh, uh, uh-uh uh-uh-uh

Johnny wants a plane
Johnny wants to suck on a Coke
Johnny wants a woman
Johnny wants to think of a joke
Uh-uh-uh uh, uh, uh-uh uh-uh-uh
Johnny's in America
Uh-uh-uh uh, uh, uh-uh uh-uh-uh

[CHORUS]

I'm afraid of Americans
Uh-uh-uh uh, uh, uh-uh uh-uh-uh

Johnny's in America
Johnny looks up at the stars
Johnny combs his hair
And Johnny wants pussy in cars
Johnny's in America, uh-uh-uh uh, uh, uh-uh uh-uh-uh
I'm afraid of Americans

God is an American
God is an American

[CHORUS]
Yeah, I'm afraid of Americans
I'm afraid of the words
I'm afraid I can't help it
I'm afraid I can't
I'm afraid of Americans

Johnny's an American
Johnny's an American
Johnny's an American, uh-uh-uh uh, uh, uh-uh uh-uh-uh

gimmesometruth27

mickeyrat wrote:

I'm afraid of christians who read more and act from the old testament than the new testament.

today's christians usually disregard select parts of the old testament when it suits them.

Cosmo

aerial wrote:

by the way I was NEVER taught that anyone had slaves except white Americans....that is all they taught back in my day.....

...
But that does not mean you cannot learn anything, just because you are no longer in school, right? I mean, just because you learned in in school, doesn't mean it's true, right?
And you are talking about thing they taught us in elementry school. In High School, there were teachers that taught us the truth about world history... our history... that didn't fit into the Disney version where we always wear the white hats. That is, unless you were in High School in the 1950s.
Again, your education does not stop once you leave High School. Your parents and teacher lie to you, not because they are evil or bad... they lied to you because the truth is too often cold and hard and ugly. Those who continue to believe those lies for comfort reason are only fooling themselves. They become the perfect idiots for politicians to manipulate.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

Godfather. wrote:

josevolution wrote:

But really on here there are only two people who have expressed hatred/bigotry towards the Muslim population the rest of us seem to be way more tolerant and respecting of all religions and beliefs ....

ahhhhh now it's a witch hunt ehh Jose, and tollerent and respecting of other religions ?????shit this place is a cest pool of bigotry when it comes to Christions, all the jokes and jabs at Jesus and the same tossed at Christions them selfs.....give me a friggin brake dude ....now your just joining in this debate to suck up to your train friends,stop it man you are starting to sound like a brown noser.


Godfather.

the only time that anyone ever attacks the christian religion is when people go on about how sad they are for atheists and all the other condescending shit that is spewed around here. Much like the american chest thumping that you shout from the rooftops while aiming your proverbial rifle at "all the people you distrust".

PJ_Soul

peacefrompaul wrote:

aerial wrote:

I figured as much......indoctrination

He's more politically fair than a lot of professors I've had.

I never met a university professor outside of the true sciences who wasn't biased about whatever it was that he or she taught to be honest, whatever the subject, and especially when it comes to culture, business, and politics. That's just how it is. I never ever trust a professor be objective.

peacefrompaul

PJ_Soul wrote:

peacefrompaul wrote:

aerial wrote:

I figured as much......indoctrination

He's more politically fair than a lot of professors I've had.

I never met a university professor outside of the true sciences who wasn't biased about whatever it was that he or she taught to be honest, whatever the subject, and especially when it comes to culture, business, and politics. That's just how it is. I never ever trust a professor be objective.

He isn't perfect, nobody is. But from my experience in two of his classes, he does a fairly good job of keeping it even.

PJ_Soul

peacefrompaul wrote:

PJ_Soul wrote:

peacefrompaul wrote:

He's more politically fair than a lot of professors I've had.

I never met a university professor outside of the true sciences who wasn't biased about whatever it was that he or she taught to be honest, whatever the subject, and especially when it comes to culture, business, and politics. That's just how it is. I never ever trust a professor be objective.

He isn't perfect, nobody is. But from my experience in two of his classes, he does a fairly good job of keeping it even.

Yeah, some are better than others (and some are better than others at just making it seem that way). Anyway, I remember realizing in school that too many of my professors were teaching from a Marxist viewpoint, and most of them I don't think even realized it themselves. After that, I started to really think about it in every class I took to make sure that I was taking whatever they said with a grain of salt and then considering the alternatives (it made school more work though )

hedonist

mikepegg44 wrote:

don't know why but I thought of this song as I continually read this thread

I have as well.

(although I'm not...I think :P )

peacefrompaul

PJ_Soul wrote:

Yeah, some are better than others (and some are better than others at just making it seem that way). Anyway, I remember realizing in school that too many of my professors were teaching from a Marxist viewpoint, and most of them I don't think even realized it themselves. After that, I started to really think about it in every class I took to make sure that I was taking whatever they said with a grain of salt and then considering the alternatives (it made school more work though )

Funny you say that, I had an English professor that came out and told us on the first day "I'm a Marxist and I vote for the Communist Party. If that's a problem with you, change classes..."



Good guy though, with some... interesting perspectives...



I think he wrote a book on punk rock...

PJ_Soul

peacefrompaul wrote:

PJ_Soul wrote:

Yeah, some are better than others (and some are better than others at just making it seem that way). Anyway, I remember realizing in school that too many of my professors were teaching from a Marxist viewpoint, and most of them I don't think even realized it themselves. After that, I started to really think about it in every class I took to make sure that I was taking whatever they said with a grain of salt and then considering the alternatives (it made school more work though )

Funny you say that, I had an English professor that came out and told us on the first day "I'm a Marxist and I vote for the Communist Party. If that's a problem with you, change classes..."



Good guy though, with some... interesting perspectives...



I think he wrote a book on punk rock...

Cool!
I don't even have a problem with the Marxist viewpoint - I'm pretty much a socialist myself. I just didn't like that I was being taught from a biased perspective (one way or another... obviously all the business majors are getting it from the opposite side of the coin), and it annoyed me to discover that that is pretty much how it goes in university... Just have to hope that there are a enough people with enough brains to work through it without being brainwashed by a bunch of their teachers.

Godfather.

josevolution wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

josevolution wrote:

But really on here there are only two people who have expressed hatred/bigotry towards the Muslim population the rest of us seem to be way more tolerant and respecting of all religions and beliefs ....

ahhhhh now it's a witch hunt ehh Jose, and tollerent and respecting of other religions ?????shit this place is a cest pool of bigotry when it comes to Christions, all the jokes and jabs at Jesus and the same tossed at Christions them selfs.....give me a friggin brake dude ....now your just joining in this debate to suck up to your train friends,stop it man you are starting to sound like a brown noser.


Godfather.

Excuse me if i've offended you , i shouldn't of targeted you ....And you know what you are right i should just stay away from topics that i'm really not well adversed at ....Carry on

sorry Jose.

Godfather.

josevolution

All good GF i respect everysingle person here we are all lucky to be part of this community ...

Godfather.

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

josevolution wrote:

But really on here there are only two people who have expressed hatred/bigotry towards the Muslim population the rest of us seem to be way more tolerant and respecting of all religions and beliefs ....

ahhhhh now it's a witch hunt ehh Jose, and tollerent and respecting of other religions ?????shit this place is a cest pool of bigotry when it comes to Christions, all the jokes and jabs at Jesus and the same tossed at Christions them selfs.....give me a friggin brake dude ....now your just joining in this debate to suck up to your train friends,stop it man you are starting to sound like a brown noser.


Godfather.

the only time that anyone ever attacks the christian religion is when people go on about how sad they are for atheists and all the other condescending shit that is spewed around here. Much like the american chest thumping that you shout from the rooftops while aiming your proverbial rifle at "all the people you distrust".

your whole post is straight up bullshit, why don't we keep the personal attacks out of the debate,I said I don't want muslims in my country (if you trust them in yours thats fine) and from there it's been personal attacks and attacks on Christanity ...wtf ??

Godfather.

Godfather.

josevolution wrote:

All good GF i respect everysingle person here we are all lucky to be part of this community ...

thank you my friend !

Godfather.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

Godfather. wrote:

your whole post is straight up bullshit, why don't we keep the personal attacks out of the debate,I said I don't want muslims in my country (if you trust them in yours thats fine) and from there it's been personal attacks and attacks on Christanity ...wtf ??

Godfather.

um, I was responding to YOUR comment about Christianity. there's nothing personal about my post at all.

how about you address the post instead of just calling it bullshit? that's all you do. you mock a thread topic with your smileys and emoticons, but really say nothing of substance except to excuse your own bigotry. if you have any points to make or any posts to address intelligently, please do so and we can go from there.

Godfather.

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

your whole post is straight up bullshit, why don't we keep the personal attacks out of the debate,I said I don't want muslims in my country (if you trust them in yours thats fine) and from there it's been personal attacks and attacks on Christanity ...wtf ??

Godfather.

um, I was responding to YOUR comment about Christianity. there's nothing personal about my post at all.

how about you address the post instead of just calling it bullshit? that's all you do. you mock a thread topic with your smileys and emoticons, but really say nothing of substance except to excuse your own bigotry. if you have any points to make or any posts to address intelligently, please do so and we can go from there.

well then let me ask you,i think you live in Canada right ? do feel comfortable around the muslim areas in Canada ? don't you even think about terrorism and these groups ?
I realize asking anybody these questions on the AMT might be asking a lot of most of you but seriously do you ever think about it when you drive past a muslin church in Canada ? or anybody anywhere on the AMT can honestly tell me that thought does not cross your mind while passing any muslim organisation or church ?

Godfather.

PJ_Soul

Godfather. wrote:

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

your whole post is straight up bullshit, why don't we keep the personal attacks out of the debate,I said I don't want muslims in my country (if you trust them in yours thats fine) and from there it's been personal attacks and attacks on Christanity ...wtf ??

Godfather.

um, I was responding to YOUR comment about Christianity. there's nothing personal about my post at all.

how about you address the post instead of just calling it bullshit? that's all you do. you mock a thread topic with your smileys and emoticons, but really say nothing of substance except to excuse your own bigotry. if you have any points to make or any posts to address intelligently, please do so and we can go from there.

well then let me ask you,i think you live in Canada right ? do feel comfortable around the muslim areas in Canada ? don't you even think about terrorism and these groups ?
I realize asking anybody these questions on the AMT might be asking a lot of most of you but seriously do you ever think about it when you drive past a muslin church in Canada ? or anybody anywhere on the AMT can honestly tell me that thought does not cross your mind while passing any muslim organisation or church ?

Godfather.

.... Are you expecting him to say that he feels nervous about terrorism or being around terrorists in Canadian areas with a large Muslim population???? .... I seriously doubt you're going to find the answer you're looking for!
:fp:

I went on a really nice walk in Golden Ears Provincial Park on Sunday with my mom. There was a lot of Muslim families there (we did notice because there were several large groups of adults and children, and many smaller Muslim families as well), and mentioned that it must be a favorite recreation spot (aka out of the way place to plot and scheme) among Vancouver's Muslim community), and I can tell you, when we kept passing them on the trail to and from the waterfall, I was seriously quaking in my hiking boots. I'm pretty sure a few of them had bombs in those light backpacks, and not light picnic lunches, as they'd like to have us believe. :think: Of course they were very friendly when we exchanged the 'hiker's hello' when passing them all, but I'm sure that's just a part of the ruse. Boy, was I ever relieved when we made it back to the car alive!

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