Accused bomber was on welfare.

mydogmookieblaylock

a bad apple spoils the bunch.

I wonder how many immigrants in the same situation have used the money to get on their feet and become productive members of our society. People who love America for the opportunities it affords them and the help they were given to get started.
For every 10 people who really appreciate the help is there one person taking advantage? If so does that still make it worth it?

I don't know the answers to any of these questions - just felt like this thread was really narrow and blinded.

dimitrispearljam

the wolf wrote:

My point is this... I don't think Pandora was being a racist, but by choosing to use the words "foreign piece of shit" she most likely DID in fact offend some people that are not Americans.

i was not offended from pandoras post,cos im a foreign full of shit,not a foreign piece of shit

dimitrispearljam

Leezestarr313 wrote:

dimitrispearljam wrote:

Leezestarr313 wrote:

Just re: Immigrants should not receive welfare ...
As an immigrant, you are usually not eligible for welfare. When you come here, you have to have a sponsor who has to sign the so-called affidavit of support. The sponsor has to prove that he earns 125% above the poverty line and ensure that the immigrant will not apply for means-tested public benefits. If he does, the sponsor will have to pay for this. If he cannot do it, he can get sued by the agency. This sponsorship only ends when the immigrant becomes an American citizen or can be credited with 40 quarters of work (10 years, I think), or if the sponsor or immigrant dies.

i was planning to pm you to ask you infos about that..like you knew and post this

A lot of people really don't have a clue how hard it actually is to immigrate to the US. It's not just "apply, pack and leave". My immigration process took roughly a year, and we breezed through. Other people are stuck for years in administrative processes, families are disrupted and almost harrassed by the authorities who want to know everything. And it is expensive too. You cannot apply for citizenship right away either.
Also, adjustment is not easy for everybody. Even I as an immigrant from Germany sometimes struggle with the cultural differences. That doesn't mean that I will become a murderer or terrorist though.

thank for the infos Lisa..very intresting post..i know very well,cos u told me in the past,how hard is to get the ok from authorities..and thanks for all the help..

the wolf

dimitrispearljam wrote:

the wolf wrote:

My point is this... I don't think Pandora was being a racist, but by choosing to use the words "foreign piece of shit" she most likely DID in fact offend some people that are not Americans.

i was not offended from pandoras post,cos im a foreign full of shit,not a foreign piece of shit

But we are ALL full of shit dimi. So it's all good.

dimitrispearljam

the wolf wrote:

dimitrispearljam wrote:

the wolf wrote:

My point is this... I don't think Pandora was being a racist, but by choosing to use the words "foreign piece of shit" she most likely DID in fact offend some people that are not Americans.

i was not offended from pandoras post,cos im a foreign full of shit,not a foreign piece of shit

But we are ALL full of shit dimi. So it's all good.

seriously..people are upset,isnt easy to understand that someone you wellcome in your country just blows away people with bombs....i understand..
the problems is really the way people think and not how a person express him self in a post.
i had alot of conversations and pm with pandora,i never felt she sees me or treat me different cos im not American..!

rick1zoo2

dimitrispearljam wrote:

seriously..people are upset,isnt easy to understand that someone you wellcome in your country just blows away people with bombs....i understand..
the problems is really the way people think and not how a person express him self in a post.
i had alot of conversations and pm with pandora,i never felt she sees me or treat me different cos im not American..!

wait. Dimi, you are not american?

josevolution

mydogmookieblaylock wrote:

a bad apple spoils the bunch.

I wonder how many immigrants in the same situation have used the money to get on their feet and become productive members of our society. People who love America for the opportunities it affords them and the help they were given to get started.
For every 10 people who really appreciate the help is there one person taking advantage? If so does that still make it worth it?

I don't know the answers to any of these questions - just felt like this thread was really narrow and blinded.

Good ?? i can only answer for my family my father migrated here in the late 60s worked for pennies made enough to send for us to come here in 1971 my two siblings and mother ..
we are all contributing citizens pay our taxes never been arrested , and next sept my oldest will be the 1st from my family to attend college i'd say this country got their moneys worth from us and in turn we get to live in the best country in the world and that comes from the deepest part of my soul ....

dimitrispearljam

rick1zoo2 wrote:

dimitrispearljam wrote:

seriously..people are upset,isnt easy to understand that someone you wellcome in your country just blows away people with bombs....i understand..
the problems is really the way people think and not how a person express him self in a post.
i had alot of conversations and pm with pandora,i never felt she sees me or treat me different cos im not American..!

wait. Dimi, you are not american?

im American,,im just so hot and sexy like Greek Gods are,and all think im Greek!!

Go Beavers

pandora wrote:

josevolution wrote:

Yes it sucks that he was collecting as so many others do that also committ crimes everyday , but i ask again would it make you feel any better if this creep was a contributing citizen and still committed this crime ...To me the bottom line is 4 people died because of these two criminals ...

I would feel less shit on as a taxpaying American yes ...
it's the fucking icing on the cake he was collecting a government check
this foreign piece of shit.
And no I'm not racist I can differentiate between shit and non shit.
Hey maybe I actually paid for that pressure cooker with my blood sweat and tears
as a hard working American.

Sometimes the irony in this life can really make one physically ill.
I bury my head and cry at the same time my blood boils. I swear the world has gone crazy.

You say bigoted things in here every now and again.

rick1zoo2

dimitrispearljam wrote:

rick1zoo2 wrote:

dimitrispearljam wrote:

seriously..people are upset,isnt easy to understand that someone you wellcome in your country just blows away people with bombs....i understand..
the problems is really the way people think and not how a person express him self in a post.
i had alot of conversations and pm with pandora,i never felt she sees me or treat me different cos im not American..!

wait. Dimi, you are not american?

im American,,im just so hot and sexy like Greek Gods are,and all think im Greek!!

JimmyV

josevolution wrote:

Good ?? i can only answer for my family my father migrated here in the late 60s worked for pennies made enough to send for us to come here in 1971 my two siblings and mother ..
we are all contributing citizens pay our taxes never been arrested , and next sept my oldest will be the 1st from my family to attend college i'd say this country got their moneys worth from us and in turn we get to live in the best country in the world and that comes from the deepest part of my soul ....

Go Beavers

Who Princess wrote:

Leezestarr313 wrote:

dimitrispearljam wrote:

i was planning to pm you to ask you infos about that..like you knew and post this

A lot of people really don't have a clue how hard it actually is to immigrate to the US. It's not just "apply, pack and leave". My immigration process took roughly a year, and we breezed through. Other people are stuck for years in administrative processes, families are disrupted and almost harrassed by the authorities who want to know everything. And it is expensive too. You cannot apply for citizenship right away either.
Also, adjustment is not easy for everybody. Even I as an immigrant from Germany sometimes struggle with the cultural differences. That doesn't mean that I will become a murderer or terrorist though.

THANK YOU.

I was about to post something about how very few of the so-called "entitlement" programs (or welfare) are available to immigrants. More services are available to people designated as refugees, because they have fled a difficult situation and are at a greater disadvantage.

This guy wasn't a citizen but he was a resident alien with an American wife and child. Some benefits will vary from state to state but sometimes people are eligible because there is a U.S. citizen in the family.

Contrary to popular belief, it's pretty tough to come to the U.S. and "mooch" off it. Like Leeze said, it's not the motivation to come here for immigrants. Usually something like a better life.

My guess is that their kid was probably on medicaid. Maybe the parents were on Romney Care.

It seems like a lot of people think immigrants should only be allowed to come to the U.S. with a college degree and a big wad of cash, just like our ancestors did.

dimitrispearljam

josevolution wrote:

Good ?? i can only answer for my family my father migrated here in the late 60s worked for pennies made enough to send for us to come here in 1971 my two siblings and mother ..
we are all contributing citizens pay our taxes never been arrested , and next sept my oldest will be the 1st from my family to attend college i'd say this country got their moneys worth from us and in turn we get to live in the best country in the world and that comes from the deepest part of my soul ....

thats a really wise and great post..and congrats for your kid Jose!!thats great he will be the 1st go to college!!

chadwick

im american
im american look at me go

frickin joke time

JimmyV

The elder Tsarnaev brother was a bad jumping off point for this issue. There are good arguments on both sides but some of them get lost when he is involved.

the wolf

dimitrispearljam wrote:

the wolf wrote:

dimitrispearljam wrote:

i was not offended from pandoras post,cos im a foreign full of shit,not a foreign piece of shit

But we are ALL full of shit dimi. So it's all good.

seriously..people are upset,isnt easy to understand that someone you wellcome in your country just blows away people with bombs....i understand..
the problems is really the way people think and not how a person express him self in a post.
i had alot of conversations and pm with pandora,i never felt she sees me or treat me different cos im not American..!

I don't believe she is racist. At all.
I know some here do though.
I just questioned the wording is all. It's not hard to understand why some people here might take offence to what she said.
If it's not a racist comment, the word "foreign" should not have preceded the words "piece of shit".
Just my opinion.
Anyway, my post was to actually show that she had me agreeing with most of what she was saying up until
that part, and choice of words.

I'm just a firm believer that anytime that you say something and have to clarify that you are not a racist, you are probably saying something that you KNOW will be taken as being racist. So, if your not a racist, why say it at all?

dimitrispearljam

the wolf wrote:

dimitrispearljam wrote:

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seriously..people are upset,isnt easy to understand that someone you wellcome in your country just blows away people with bombs....i understand..
the problems is really the way people think and not how a person express him self in a post.
i had alot of conversations and pm with pandora,i never felt she sees me or treat me different cos im not American..!

I don't believe she is racist. At all.
I know some here do though.
I just questioned the wording is all. It's not hard to understand why some people here might take offence to what she said.
If it's not a racist comment, the word "foreign" should not have preceded the words "piece of shit".
Just my opinion.
Anyway, my post was to actually show that she had me agreeing with most of what she was saying up until
that part, and choice of words.

I'm just a firm believer that anytime that you say something and have to clarify that you are not a racist, you are probably saying something that you KNOW will be taken as being racist. So, if your not a racist, why say it at all?

i see your point bro..but lets say was an misplaced comment to add word foreign with piece of shit....
i understand that people might get offended,im not,cos i realise,when someone from another another country while live in your country,take advantage the benefits and as thank you put bombs,you might get a little upset and oversay things....
i cant speak for everyone here,but atleast to me Pandora always treat me the same,with out treat me as a foreign,or point out in our cinversation that im not American.

badbrains

dimitrispearljam wrote:

the wolf wrote:

My point is this... I don't think Pandora was being a racist, but by choosing to use the words "foreign piece of shit" she most likely DID in fact offend some people that are not Americans.

i was not offended from pandoras post,cos im a foreign full of shit,not a foreign piece of shit

Dimi, you are a foreign full of shit, and your Madrid can eat shit!!!

dimitrispearljam

badbrains wrote:

dimitrispearljam wrote:

the wolf wrote:

My point is this... I don't think Pandora was being a racist, but by choosing to use the words "foreign piece of shit" she most likely DID in fact offend some people that are not Americans.

i was not offended from pandoras post,cos im a foreign full of shit,not a foreign piece of shit

Dimi, you are a foreign full of shit, and your Madrid can eat shit!!!

polaris_x

josevolution wrote:

i'd say this country got their moneys worth from us and in turn we get to live in the best country in the world and that comes from the deepest part of my soul ....

do you honestly believe america is the greatest country in the world?