Accused bomber was on welfare.

unsung

http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/lo ... e_benefits

I disagree with providing welfare to immigrants no matter their legal or illegal status. If you can't come here and be a productive member of society then you should not be able to come here to leech off us. There needs to be incentive to invest your future here, not get funding to blow up innocent people. I realize that some people need help but this crap needs to stop.

JimmyV

Something we agree on.

RustyShackelford

unsung wrote:

http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/local_coverage/2013/04/tamerlan_tsarnaev_got_mass_welfare_benefits

I disagree with providing welfare to immigrants no matter their legal or illegal status. If you can't come here and be a productive member of society then you should not be able to come here to leech off us. There needs to be incentive to invest your future here, not get funding to blow up innocent people. I realize that some people need help but this crap needs to stop.

josevolution

Agreed , but it's not like if he had a job this wouldn't of happened ...

pandora

unsung wrote:

http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/local_coverage/2013/04/tamerlan_tsarnaev_got_mass_welfare_benefits

I disagree with providing welfare to immigrants no matter their legal or illegal status. If you can't come here and be a productive member of society then you should not be able to come here to leech off us. There needs to be incentive to invest your future here, not get funding to blow up innocent people. I realize that some people need help but this crap needs to stop.

:wtf: and he blows up Americans, so much pain and suffering, asshole is too good of a word for him.

I agree with you unsung wholeheartedly.
Our country has lost all common sense.

JimmyV

Easy to believe America is the great Satan when she is paying your bills, I guess. The uncle was right; these two were losers.

polaris_x

what the cuss?

timothy mcveigh was a registered republican who voted libertarian and had an NRA membership ... and he was roman catholic ...

way to take something tragic to push an agenda that is completely unrelated ...

pandora

polaris_x wrote:

what the cuss?

timothy mcveigh was a registered republican who voted libertarian and had an NRA membership ... and he was roman catholic ...

way to take something tragic to push an agenda that is completely unrelated ...

it makes the fact he was on taxpayer bread and butter all the more tragic :fp:
and pissy

fife

pandora wrote:

polaris_x wrote:

what the cuss?

timothy mcveigh was a registered republican who voted libertarian and had an NRA membership ... and he was roman catholic ...

way to take something tragic to push an agenda that is completely unrelated ...

it makes the fact he was on taxpayer bread and butter all the more tragic :fp:
and pissy

really, this made it more tragic?

as for the org. post, was this person not a citizen?

unsung

I believe his younger brother was but he was not.

pandora

unsung wrote:

I believe his younger brother was but he was not.

yes the younger brother became a US citizen last Sept 11th :evil: irony or ?

dimitrispearljam

i post it in the other thread..
i dont get it..
why those 2 boys hate America?
raised there,all people they know are there,friend,society..i guess most of friends,girlkfriends,school..Americans..and let say the young brother follow the big one..
how this hate grow up?suppose their parents told them,this is a better life..
they just woke up a morning and plan an attack?
i really believe parents,atleat one or a relative must knew..or a friend,or someone they pray together..whatever.
they even take the benefits from the state..
and their relatives..really.,.better stop talking..they need to show respect to the country wellcoime them

polaris_x

dimitrispearljam wrote:

i post it in the other thread..
i dont get it..
why those 2 boys hate America?
raised there,all people they know are there,friend,society..i guess most of friends,girlkfriends,school..Americans..and let say the young brother follow the big one..
how this hate grow up?suppose their parents told them,this is a better life..
they just woke up a morning and plan an attack?
i really believe parents,atleat one or a relative must knew..or a friend,or someone they pray together..whatever.
they even take the benefits from the state..
and their relatives..really.,.better stop talking..they need to show respect to the country wellcoime them

without knowing them personally - i would suspect that they were radicalized on the foundation that has radicalized most al qaeda members ... the notion that america is evil ... their incursions into foreign lands for war profiteering and country meddling is not appreciated anywhere ... just because you live in a country that offers opportunities doesn't mean one is devoid of being angry at it ... look at timothy mcveigh - he believed that foreign intervention by the american military was wrong ... and he died believing that ...

pandora

fife wrote:

pandora wrote:

polaris_x wrote:

what the cuss?

timothy mcveigh was a registered republican who voted libertarian and had an NRA membership ... and he was roman catholic ...

way to take something tragic to push an agenda that is completely unrelated ...

it makes the fact he was on taxpayer bread and butter all the more tragic :fp:
and pissy

really, this made it more tragic?

as for the org. post, was this person not a citizen?

We have people here with legs blown off. This bombing was sadistic, cruel, intentional
evil. Yes the fact I help feed the asswipe the day before makes it all more tragic to me,
more personal and all the more disappointing in what my country has become.
It pisses me the fuck off.
They changed the lives of so many ...
so much pain, so much struggle ahead for the victims.

pandora

polaris_x wrote:

without knowing them personally - i would suspect that they were radicalized on the foundation that has radicalized most al qaeda members ... the notion that america is evil ... their incursions into foreign lands for war profiteering and country meddling is not appreciated anywhere ... just because you live in a country that offers opportunities doesn't mean one is devoid of being angry at it ... look at timothy mcveigh - he believed that foreign intervention by the american military was wrong ... and he died believing that ...

well really glad he was well fed on the way out...
if he was any kind of man he wouldn't take a meal ticket from his victims ...
but he was no kind of man.

JimmyV

pandora wrote:

We have people here with legs blown off. This bombing was sadistic, cruel, intentional
evil. Yes the fact I help feed the asswipe the day before makes it all more tragic to me,
more personal and all the more disappointing in what my country has become.
It pisses me the fuck off.
They changed the lives of so many ...
so much pain, so much struggle ahead for the victims.

I don't disagree. For so many the struggle is just starting. It is infuriating that this loser and his brother were enjoying all the advantages that come from living in America while simultaneously plotting to commit the mass murder of Americans. For political reasons? Please.

Godfather.

unsung wrote:

http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/local_coverage/2013/04/tamerlan_tsarnaev_got_mass_welfare_benefits

I disagree with providing welfare to immigrants no matter their legal or illegal status. If you can't come here and be a productive member of society then you should not be able to come here to leech off us. There needs to be incentive to invest your future here, not get funding to blow up innocent people. I realize that some people need help but this crap needs to stop.

:thumbup: agreed ! it's bullshit !

Godfather.

dimitrispearljam

polaris_x wrote:

dimitrispearljam wrote:

i post it in the other thread..
i dont get it..
why those 2 boys hate America?
raised there,all people they know are there,friend,society..i guess most of friends,girlkfriends,school..Americans..and let say the young brother follow the big one..
how this hate grow up?suppose their parents told them,this is a better life..
they just woke up a morning and plan an attack?
i really believe parents,atleat one or a relative must knew..or a friend,or someone they pray together..whatever.
they even take the benefits from the state..
and their relatives..really.,.better stop talking..they need to show respect to the country wellcoime them

without knowing them personally - i would suspect that they were radicalized on the foundation that has radicalized most al qaeda members ... the notion that america is evil ... their incursions into foreign lands for war profiteering and country meddling is not appreciated anywhere ... just because you live in a country that offers opportunities doesn't mean one is devoid of being angry at it ... look at timothy mcveigh - he believed that foreign intervention by the american military was wrong ... and he died believing that ...

sure,i thought that possibility..maybe its just me..how i would think..
i mean,if i left my country for something better,i would try to be one with the locals,learn their way of life,try to be one with the society..
if i had this anger inside me,i would go back in my country..
so many people from other countries go to usa to live..and i guess most of them after years become almost Americans and for sure dont puting bombs

josevolution

Yes it sucks that he was collecting as so many others do that also committ crimes everyday , but i ask again would it make you feel any better if this creep was a contributing citizen and still committed this crime ...To me the bottom line is 4 people died because of these two criminals ...

polaris_x

dimitrispearljam wrote:

sure,i thought that possibility..maybe its just me..how i would think..
i mean,if i left my country for something better,i would try to be one with the locals,learn their way of life,try to be one with the society..
if i had this anger inside me,i would go back in my country..
so many people from other countries go to usa to live..and i guess most of them after years become almost Americans and for sure dont puting bombs

well ... i don't know for sure ... but it looks like their mother or father took them to the states ... they didn't necessarily choose it themselves ...

dimitrispearljam

josevolution wrote:

Yes it sucks that he was collecting as so many others do that also committ crimes everyday , but i ask again would it make you feel any better if this creep was a contributing citizen and still committed this crime ...To me the bottom line is 4 people died because of these two criminals ...

i think Jose,this type of crimes,when reminds terrorist attacks gets more attention at the media..
and the poolice of course..if a guy from a gang shoot and kill 5 people of another gang,no one will pay that much of attention..