Multiple People Injured by Stabbing at Lone Star College

hedonist

STAYSEA wrote:

I really don't get this. I think they should just close all the Lone Star campuses at this point. They clearly won't have a big freshman population next semester.

Sorry this hit so close to home for you; it must've been surreal and scary.

But, the two incidents strike me as anomalies; why close the campuses - what purpose would it serve?

hedonist

pandora wrote:

No of course he was not brave he only tried to get the word out.
He tried to show people just how bad life sucks for some people. Idiot ...
I guess thats how you feel about desperate people.
Walk a mile in a pair of desperate shoes that have lost their job, house, family.
Not a lot to live for then, not a lot of good common sense left either.
Good thing he's dead now. One less idiot to worry about.

There will be plenty more and I will be prepared and the cushy cushy will watch from afar
shaking their heads saying take away the guns that's the answer. That's the easy answer.
Until they are one of the every 22 seconds victim, they may understand a little better but
you know ... and maybe not.

Please don't guess as to my feelings. It's an inappropriate (*edited) assumption to make.

I have known - and DO know - people who've fallen on hard times of all kinds. I've been there myself.

Never, ever, would I consider taking hostages to "get the word out". Putting the lives of others at risk in the process? A fake call for help to lure firefighters to your crusade?

Yup, an idiot. In fact, a bloomin' idiot, and then some.

STAYSEA

hedonist wrote:

STAYSEA wrote:

I really don't get this. I think they should just close all the Lone Star campuses at this point. They clearly won't have a big freshman population next semester.

Sorry this hit so close to home for you; it must've been surreal and scary.

But, the two incidents strike me as anomalies; why close the campuses - what purpose would it serve?

It's not surreal or scary. I lived in Florida or Texas my whole life. I say close the campuses because, I know I'm not going to enroll any day soon. If I did, because tuition is the cheapest at Lone Star, I would attend online classes.

His motives are still unclear.
It seems to always end up being emotional problems with in the person that go unnoticed or disregarded.
If guns or weapons are banned all together, it's easier to get one on the black market.

ex. Moonshine, marijuana , prostitution.

I'm sorry to those kids that had their faces sliced open. I saw one being put on a stretcher to be airlifted to Memorial Herman. It made me sick. His or Her whole face was wrapped in bloody gauze and it was live on the news before noon. I don't mean to be graphic.

I shouldn't be on this train.. again.

pandora

hedonist wrote:

pandora wrote:

No of course he was not brave he only tried to get the word out.
He tried to show people just how bad life sucks for some people. Idiot ...
I guess thats how you feel about desperate people.
Walk a mile in a pair of desperate shoes that have lost their job, house, family.
Not a lot to live for then, not a lot of good common sense left either.
Good thing he's dead now. One less idiot to worry about.

There will be plenty more and I will be prepared and the cushy cushy will watch from afar
shaking their heads saying take away the guns that's the answer. That's the easy answer.
Until they are one of the every 22 seconds victim, they may understand a little better but
you know ... and maybe not.

Please don't guess as to my feelings. It's an inappropriate (*edited) assumption to make.

I have known - and DO know - people who've fallen on hard times of all kinds. I've been there myself.

Never, ever, would I consider taking hostages to "get the word out". Putting the lives of others at risk in the process? A fake call for help to lure firefighters to your crusade?

Yup, an idiot. In fact, a bloomin' idiot, and then some.

You were quite open with your feelings left nothing to assume or guess.
This attitude solves nothing for the next person who is desperate
but yes it is very common. "I'll look at this guy and judge him based on who I am,
what I have experienced."

I guess we can just say you are better than this guy. That your family friends are better
than this idiot. That must make you feel good. I would rather understand
and look at the whys and hows to prevent more like him.

He was desperate and wanted his life back one more time. They wouldn't say what
his last demand was, they wouldn't fulfill it and thats when SWAT went in.
I bet it was his family he wanted if only for a moment.

My point in this story is crime and desperation are going to increase
unless we can get people back to work. Get people back into homes.
Get people help for on going mental illness and depression.

The smug people who don't experience what others have to won't even
try to understand their needs. They base what everyone should need on what they need,
how they cope, what they feel. The gun owners are not asking people to buy a gun
live like us, we are only saying I'm keeping the right protected.

Side note that was our neighborhood when we moved to GA 22 years ago.
I heard a person on the radio say... he grew up near there and remembers a peaceful
hometown little Suwanee. Me too, a great place to raise your kids.
Just like Lauren Brown did. Look at him now.

hedonist

pandora wrote:

hedonist wrote:

Please don't guess as to my feelings. It's an inappropriate (*edited) assumption to make.

I have known - and DO know - people who've fallen on hard times of all kinds. I've been there myself.

Never, ever, would I consider taking hostages to "get the word out". Putting the lives of others at risk in the process? A fake call for help to lure firefighters to your crusade?

Yup, an idiot. In fact, a bloomin' idiot, and then some.

You were quite open with your feelings left nothing to assume or guess.
This attitude solves nothing for the next person who is desperate
but yes it is very common. "I'll look at this guy and judge him based on who I am,
what I have experienced."

I guess we can just say you are better than this guy. That your family friends are better
than this idiot. That must make you feel good. I would rather understand
and look at the whys and hows to prevent more like him.

He was desperate and wanted his life back one more time. They wouldn't say what
his last demand was, they wouldn't fulfill it and thats when SWAT went in.
I bet it was his family he wanted if only for a moment.

My point in this story is crime and desperation are going to increase
unless we can get people back to work. Get people back into homes.
Get people help for on going mental illness and depression.

The smug people who don't experience what others have to won't even
try to understand their needs. They base what everyone should need on what they need,
how they cope, what they feel. The gun owners are not asking people to buy a gun
live like us, we are only saying I'm keeping the right protected.

Side note that was our neighborhood when we moved to GA 22 years ago.
I heard a person on the radio say... he grew up near there and remembers a peaceful
hometown little Suwanee. Me too, a great place to raise your kids.
Just like Lauren Brown did. Look at him now.

Great insight. Thanks for your (misguided) assessment of me.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

unsung wrote:

mikepegg44 wrote:

We are going to ban the weapons that are responsible for less than 1 percent of all gun homicides. How is that rational? How is that addressing a problem in any meaningful way?

I'm one that would like to see an answer to this question.

For the record... I have encouraged a ban on assault rifles and very strict criteria to make one eligible for a handgun. Other than the law or bonded security, ranchers, hunters or trappers with squeaky clean histories might be the types suitable for such a gun (off the top of my head).

I hold the opinion that there is no need for any civilian to possess an AK-47. As fun as they might be... they are simply too deadly and effective for creating mass carnage in short time. Why place people at such risk when other guns can provide for the needs of people desiring one. If it's protection a person truly wants... let me suggest a shotgun: big time stopping power more than capable of home protection.

Handguns- so easily concealed and so easy to handle- serve very little purpose for the average citizen and are clearly the weapon of choice for murderers. There is no denying this fact. Lynyrd Skynyrd had it right talking about a Saturday Night Special:

Hand guns are made for killin'
Ain't no good for nothin' else
And if you like your whiskey
You might even shoot yourself
So why don't we dump 'em people
To the bottom of the sea
Before some fool come around here
Wanna shoot either you or me

Great song. Great song.

But as I said in one of my last posts... it doesn't really seem that there is a true will to address the glaring problem the US has with gun violence. I do wish the country the best- they border mine. It's sad to hear of the mass shootings and look at the gross statistics, but if they are okay with them... then so be it.

I spend the majority of my time on this forum and then the Other Music forum. I really need a Pearl Jam tour so I can feel a pull to the Porch and Given to Fly forums. Maybe there, Unsung (or some other 'opponent') and I can agree on a bootleg or a poster or something. I feel the never ending gun issue has done a really good job of dividing this community. I'm clearly partly responsible for some of that divide. Sorry for any hard feelings that might exist from my well-intended arguments.

Jeanwah

Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:

For the record... I have encouraged a ban on assault rifles and very strict criteria to make one eligible for a handgun. Other than the law or bonded security, ranchers, hunters or trappers with squeaky clean histories might be the types suitable for such a gun (off the top of my head).

I hold the opinion that there is no need for any civilian to possess an AK-47. As fun as they might be... they are simply too deadly and effective for creating mass carnage in short time. Why place people at such risk when other guns can provide for the needs of people desiring one. If it's protection a person truly wants... let me suggest a shotgun: big time stopping power more than capable of home protection.

Handguns- so easily concealed and so easy to handle- serve very little purpose for the average citizen and are clearly the weapon of choice for murderers. There is no denying this fact. Lynyrd Skynyrd had it right talking about a Saturday Night Special:

Hand guns are made for killin'
Ain't no good for nothin' else
And if you like your whiskey
You might even shoot yourself
So why don't we dump 'em people
To the bottom of the sea
Before some fool come around here
Wanna shoot either you or me

Great song. Great song.

But as I said in one of my last posts... it doesn't really seem that there is a true will to address the glaring problem the US has with gun violence. I do wish the country the best- they border mine. It's sad to hear of the mass shootings and look at the gross statistics, but if they are okay with them... then so be it.

I spend the majority of my time on this forum and then the Other Music forum. I really need a Pearl Jam tour so I can feel a pull to the Porch and Given to Fly forums. Maybe there, Unsung (or some other 'opponent') and I can agree on a bootleg or a poster or something. I feel the never ending gun issue has done a really good job of dividing this community. I'm clearly partly responsible for some of that divide. Sorry for any hard feelings that might exist from my well-intended arguments.

I haven't followed this thread at all, and generally stay clear of gun threads because they depress me. This post has been one the very few that come close to how I feel about the issue though. The issue is constantly being jumped to conclusions. What needs to be done is a step taken back and looking for real solutions, real solutions, using a clear head and creative thinking. I seriously think that in order for that to happen, perhaps not thinking about the topic for a while and allowing dust to settle would bring new solutions to an (seemingly old) problem.

STAYSEA

Jeanwah wrote:

I haven't followed this thread at all, and generally stay clear of gun threads because they depress me. This post has been one the very few that come close to how I feel about the issue though. The issue is constantly being jumped to conclusions. What needs to be done is a step taken back and looking for real solutions, real solutions, using a clear head and creative thinking. I seriously think that in order for that to happen, perhaps not thinking about the topic for a while and allowing dust to settle would bring new solutions to an (seemingly old) problem.

I wish the dust would settle. But It keeps happening blocks from my house.

These problems are problems of my community. Most rather ignore it until it's too late.
We need to spread Good Vibes and be accepting of everyone. If I see someone acting out of character or seriously mentally ill, I sure as heck try my best. Weapons are harmless without opposable thumbs.

Mental Health Care needs improvement, and that is not my field.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

pandora wrote:

No I wasn't talking about those who have not been victimized. I was talking about the mentality
I get from some who say just move if it's violent by you :? Atlanta crime isn't THAT bad :?
or Fox news is to blame and you are paranoid...
dismissing real people with real life threats ... this from their safe homes.

:fp:

it's like I'm talking to a squirrel. Time to move on from this utter nonsense.

STAYSEA

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

pandora wrote:

No I wasn't talking about those who have not been victimized. I was talking about the mentality
I get from some who say just move if it's violent by you :? Atlanta crime isn't THAT bad :?
or Fox news is to blame and you are paranoid...
dismissing real people with real life threats ... this from their safe homes.

:fp:

it's like I'm talking to a squirrel. Time to move on from this utter nonsense.

That's why I try to stay off the train.

OnTheEdge

mikepegg44 wrote:

JonnyPistachio wrote:

Im willing to admit it sounds silly when you put it like that. But 1% is a statistic that doesnt reflect the fact that we have SO MANY gun homicides, that 1% is still too much. In just the past year, dozens of KIDS died because of AR-15s.

dozens vs thousands.

assault rifles vs. hand guns

sorry, a banning of these weapons is political theater only. IT scores HUGE points for those that defend the ban and those that oppose it among their respective bases. It will do nothing to curb gun violence.

Baby steps. It's just a matter of time after the ban on assault rifles and certain size magazines that bans on any other gun will soon follow. Probably want to get the ar's out of our hands before trying to take the rest of them.

OnTheEdge

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

pandora wrote:

No I wasn't talking about those who have not been victimized. I was talking about the mentality
I get from some who say just move if it's violent by you :? Atlanta crime isn't THAT bad :?
or Fox news is to blame and you are paranoid...
dismissing real people with real life threats ... this from their safe homes.

:fp:

it's like I'm talking to a squirrel. Time to move on from this utter nonsense.

:wave: