today & from now on it is 19goddamn29
we aint got the internet at our workplaces
"sweep the fucking floor or get beat with a crowbar" should be obama's moto & slogan
"get your big asses off the computers when working or get my big ass dress shoe stuck up your ass"
kinda like that there
I think I have the most fun reading your posts. I can't say I always understand what the fuck you are talking about, but I always love to read what you have to say!
that’s right! Can’t we all just get together and focus on our real enemies: monogamous gays and stem cells… - Ned Flanders
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
today & from now on it is 19goddamn29
we aint got the internet at our workplaces
"sweep the fucking floor or get beat with a crowbar" should be obama's moto & slogan
"get your big asses off the computers when working or get my big ass dress shoe stuck up your ass"
kinda like that there
I think I have the most fun reading your posts. I can't say I always understand what the fuck you are talking about, but I always love to read what you have to say!
thank you my kind sir. i enjoy being myself the most. now i am off to write me a bit of poetry. enjoy debating nicely amongst yourselves. thank you, mikepegg44
here's a real fucking solution. if you are physically at your job why are you on pearljam.com playing around with your friends? if you are working from your home office why are you jerkin around with your pals on kipwinger.org? if you are an officer worker why are you not doing your daily tasks but rather strokin well to kateupton.onlike10?
Sometimes the perks at my job are training and then I don't have to do my job for a while as the trained now has to do my job while I make sure they don't screw up. Thus some play time here. Gotta be able to find the millions when they go missing.
The poison from the poison stream caught up to you ELEVEN years ago and you floated out of here. Sept. 14, 08
I think I have the most fun reading your posts. I can't say I always understand what the fuck you are talking about, but I always love to read what you have to say!
I think I have the most fun reading your posts. I can't say I always understand what the fuck you are talking about, but I always love to read what you have to say!
In reviewing and reading since this topic began, I realize that a minimum wage is probably a necessary evil with the current corporatism we have in the US, but I wonder if it is better figured out at the state level rather than the federal level. The feds dictate to the state that a minimum wage is required to be x% of average COL. The state measures the COL in their respective communities, taking all the communities into account at a more micro level than a federal mandate. This would be a benefit to businesses paying minimum wage too because they would have some control over the raising or the lowering of the minimum wage because they can help to raise, hold, or lower the COL.
Any thoughts?
Minimum wage is necessary but not a necessary 'evil'.! T I was under the understanding that, whilst minimum wage was set at federal level, there is still state level input - usually going higher. There are also so many exemptions to minimum wage, it's untrue. Must also bear in mind that when there are these increases within the fair minimum wage act, BILLIONS in tax cuts were included for small businesses.
This map is interesting, I did read somewhere that it's also up to states as what is paid for minimum wage. http://www.dol.gov/whd/minwage/america.htm (Sorry MikePegg, I now realize you already posted this link!)
And Georgia pays lower than Fed rates. (If the job is not subject to the federal Fair Labor Standards Act, then state, city, or other local laws may determine the minimum wage. A common exemption to the federal minimum wage is a company having revenue of less than $500,000 per year while not engaging in any interstate commerce.) $5.15 is minimum wage in GA, The lowest pay wage for min. wage in the country. Anyone would be wise to get out of GA if they need to work to survive (which is most of us). San Francisco is paid the most minimum wage: $10.55 since January 1, 2013. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimum_wa ... ted_States
The Fair Labor Standards Act 1938[1] (abbreviated as FLSA; also referred to as the Wages and Hours Bill[2]) is a federal statute of the United States. The FLSA introduced a maximum 44-hour seven-day workweek,[3] established a national minimum wage,[4] guaranteed "time-and-a-half" for overtime in certain jobs, and prohibited most employment of minors in "oppressive child labor", a term that is defined in the statute.[5][6] It applies to employees engaged in interstate commerce or employed by an enterprise engaged in commerce or in the production of goods for commerce,[7] unless the employer can claim an exemption from coverage.
According to the act, workers must be paid minimum wage and overtime pay must be one-and-a-half times regular pay.
New York state isn’t waiting for Congress to raise the federal minimum wage. Instead, lawmakers in Albany have crafted a deal that would raise the state’s minimum wage from $7.25 to $9 an hour. But not everybody will be getting a raise.
Under the current deal, approved by Democratic Gov. Andrew Cuomo but not yet signed into law, workers who rely on tips for a substantial portion of their income will maintain an existing significantly lower minimum wage.
New York’s tipped employees—defined [PDF] by the U.S. Labor Department as those workers who make more than $30 per month in tips—earn a base minimum wage of between $4.90 and $5.65 per hour, depending on which industry they work in. The federal minimum wage for tipped employees is $2.13 an hour, with tips expected to bring them up to at least $7.25.
“Restaurant workers are the largest group of full-time workers living in poverty and they are being completely left out of this increase,” said Saru Jayaraman, co-director of the restaurant workers coalition ROC United, in a statement. “We’re glad that New York state is taking action to improve conditions for low-wage workers by increasing the minimum wage, but excluding tipped workers from the proposed plan is a huge oversight and ignores the needs of millions of New York workers.”
On Wednesday, ROC United staged a “Twitter rally” in it encouraged sympathetic parties to tweet their support for a higher tipped minimum wage at various New York politicians.
The fate of workers who earn tips in New York could have national implications as the conversation around the minimum wage continues at the federal level.
ROC United has campaigned for a higher minimum wage for tipped workers on the federal level. Such an increase would affect millions of American workers. As of 2010, the Bureau of Labor Statistics estimates that some 2.3 million Americans were employed as waiters and waitresses alone–and about 73% of tipped workers are women, according to a 2011 report [PDF] by the Economic Policy Institute.
As the Economic Policy Institute points out, “Many tipped workers are unaware that their tips and hourly wages must add up to at least the minimum wage. At the same time, employers are unlikely to ensure that their workers are paid appropriately—it is up to the employees to know and understand this law.”
Tipped employees are also exceedingly vulnerable to wage theft, according to the National Employment Law Project (NELP). In a 2009 survey [PDF] of 4,387 low-wage workers, NELP found that 30% of tipped workers “were not paid the tipped worker minimum wage,” and 12% “experienced tip stealing by their employer or supervisor.”
Elsewhere in the Northeast, Rhode Island might soon pass legislation aimed at boosting tipped workers’ incomes. Democrats in both chambers of the state legislature have proposed laws which would ban employers from appropriating any of their workers’ tips. Currently, employers are free to deduct tip money from their workers’ incomes, so long as the workers continue to earn a legal minimum wage.
Joey DeFrancesco, a former hotel worker who now runs the worker advocacy site Joey Quits, explained why he is campaigning for the law in a statement.
“I experienced tip theft firsthand while working at the Renaissance Providence Hotel,” he said. “Through deceptive automatic service charges and by including themselves in our tip pool, the hotel and our supervisors were taking more than half the tip money customers thought they were giving us. I tried to bring the case to the US Department of Labor, but I discovered tip stealing is not covered by federal law. Rhode Island needs to end this terrible practice that’s robbing much needed money from our state’s lowest paid workers.”
The federal minimum wage increase proposed by Congressman Joe Kennedy, D-Mass., would increase the base wage for tipped employees from $2.13 to $5.08 per hour. Similar proposals in Missouri and New Mexico would also increase the tipped minimum wage, though a proposal to do the same in Maryland recently failed.
:? our employees are not effected by minimum wage as they are skilled labor.
I worked in printing for 15 years (and I'll never go back). Skilled labor by learning on the job. Hence entry level, hence they were probably paid minimum wage or hopefully more when they started, pending on company pay. I started higher than minimum wage because of my education in graphic arts. AND because the company I worked for took care of their employees, at least until the owner passed away.
If you started above minimum wage with an education why would you assume
our employees did not... :?
We have never had an employee anywhere near minimum wage, none without education
and experience. I'm sure printing misses you.
The printing industry trains on the job. I didn't work at any dinky company, it is one of the biggest in the country. Nearly everyone working in production only needed a HS diploma or GED to get a job. Printing is an industry sinking fast. And you know that Pandora, since you're married to an employer.
In reviewing and reading since this topic began, I realize that a minimum wage is probably a necessary evil with the current corporatism we have in the US, but I wonder if it is better figured out at the state level rather than the federal level. The feds dictate to the state that a minimum wage is required to be x% of average COL. The state measures the COL in their respective communities, taking all the communities into account at a more micro level than a federal mandate. This would be a benefit to businesses paying minimum wage too because they would have some control over the raising or the lowering of the minimum wage because they can help to raise, hold, or lower the COL.
Any thoughts?
Minimum wage is necessary but not a necessary 'evil'.! T I was under the understanding that, whilst minimum wage was set at federal level, there is still state level input - usually going higher. There are also so many exemptions to minimum wage, it's untrue. Must also bear in mind that when there are these increases within the fair minimum wage act, BILLIONS in tax cuts were included for small businesses.
This map is interesting, I did read somewhere that it's also up to states as what is paid for minimum wage. http://www.dol.gov/whd/minwage/america.htm (Sorry MikePegg, I now realize you already posted this link!)
And Georgia pays lower than Fed rates. (If the job is not subject to the federal Fair Labor Standards Act, then state, city, or other local laws may determine the minimum wage. A common exemption to the federal minimum wage is a company having revenue of less than $500,000 per year while not engaging in any interstate commerce.) $5.15 is minimum wage in GA, The lowest pay wage for min. wage in the country. Anyone would be wise to get out of GA if they need to work to survive (which is most of us). San Francisco is paid the most minimum wage: $10.55 since January 1, 2013. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimum_wa ... ted_States
well no the federal minimum wage takes precedent.
The Federal Minimum Wage of $7.25 per hour is the minimum hourly pay any non-exempt worker in the United States can be paid for his work. The Federal Minimum Wage is applicable nationwide, and overrides any state laws that provide a lower minimum wage rate to ensure that the local minimum wage in all states is at least $7.25 per hour. The Federal Minimum Wage was last updated in 2009.
http://www.minimum-wage.org/states.asp?state=Georgia
Georgia's minimum wage is $5.15 per hour. This is less then the Federal Minimum Wage. This amount is obsolete, as the Federal Minimum Wage of $7.25 takes precedent
exempt workers are seasonal, some students, tipped employees etc.
But fine by me if people stop flooding into Ga it's getting a bit crowded here
I worked in printing for 15 years (and I'll never go back). Skilled labor by learning on the job. Hence entry level, hence they were probably paid minimum wage or hopefully more when they started, pending on company pay. I started higher than minimum wage because of my education in graphic arts. AND because the company I worked for took care of their employees, at least until the owner passed away.
If you started above minimum wage with an education why would you assume
our employees did not... :?
We have never had an employee anywhere near minimum wage, none without education
and experience. I'm sure printing misses you.
The printing industry trains on the job. I didn't work at any dinky company, it is one of the biggest in the country. Nearly everyone working in production only needed a HS diploma or GED to get a job. Printing is an industry sinking fast. And you know that Pandora, since you're married to an employer.
A bit off topic but I'll tell it like it is...
Our industry is ever changing with new equipment.I'm sure it is much advanced since you have left.
People are trained both off the job and on. As I said our experience is all the workers
have educations in the graphic arts field. Even JB back in the day graduated
from a PIAG school and also taught there.
We have had many students work for us while still in school.
What did you do in the printing industry? Small world by the way. I've met others here as well.
We have many customers that are PJ fans, other printers too.
JB started as a stripper...
when we met I thought he meant a different kind of stripper funny story.
How many times a day do you think you hold the printed word Jean?
Go to the grocery store much? shop for lady items? buy a six pack?
go to the frig or cupboard and read a bit.
do you think you might need some business cards for your new job?
do they use logo envelopes, stationary ? how about propaganda, do they have kit packs, promotions,
conferences? How about dvd's educational and otherwise? Anyone need a banner?
How about restaurants do you hold menus? ever get a coupon? how about a take one pad?
Don't get me started on the mega churches and 12,000 name badges
Or the foundations and charity events. How about the new film industry here in Atl
sweet! watch a movie and notice the props. Anchorman 2 Hunger Games II
tv shows notice the props specially printed. I could go on and on. It's silly really.
My husband is my boss and he'd say I am his ... We are a corporation equal partners in crime
he is the Pres I am the Secretary/Treasurer. I handle the employees and they come to me.
I also handle the raises and the unemployment benefits etc etc...
I am an employer and proud to be.
After a needed break from this thread, I'd like to say just couple of things.
1) not once in the 2 threads in this topic did I say I was against unemployment benefits. I'm not sure why the conversation moved to unemployment. Two seperate issues that have nothing to do with each other.
2) I don't know everyone's back story and the problems they face in life. I sincerely hope everyone can make a earn a good wage and make their ends meet.
After a needed break from this thread, I'd like to say just couple of things.
1) not once in the 2 threads in this topic did I say I was against unemployment benefits. I'm not sure why the conversation moved to unemployment. Two seperate issues that have nothing to do with each other.
2) I don't know everyone's back story and the problems they face in life. I sincerely hope everyone can make a earn a good wage and make their ends meet.
Thank you all for an educated debate.
These conversations tend to morph every now and then- particularly if they are lively.
Nobody here (if I can speak for all) is doubting the fact that you wish people well.
Make sure to stick around- this place gets pretty fun sometimes!
After a needed break from this thread, I'd like to say just couple of things.
1) not once in the 2 threads in this topic did I say I was against unemployment benefits. I'm not sure why the conversation moved to unemployment. Two seperate issues that have nothing to do with each other.
2) I don't know everyone's back story and the problems they face in life. I sincerely hope everyone can make a earn a good wage and make their ends meet.
Thank you all for an educated debate.
Some people were saying you got 'help' cause you were on unemployment for two weeks.
A debate about whether or not unemployment benefits fit into the category of 'help' in sued
I missed the part of why you couldn't have any help, still confused about that,
although being an employer who has paid for unemployment benefits for 22 years,
for employees who lose their job due to no fault of their own,
I do not look at that as help but an earned benefit.
I think most employers and working people would agree.
I've enjoyed learning about other posters work background
and I want to add that I learn so much from people
here in AMT. This from their views, their research, their experiences.
I learn from researching topics myself as well.
I like hearing about other countries first hand and always enjoy the patriotism each person
has for their country.
Comments
I think I have the most fun reading your posts. I can't say I always understand what the fuck you are talking about, but I always love to read what you have to say!
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
Sometimes the perks at my job are training and then I don't have to do my job for a while as the trained now has to do my job while I make sure they don't screw up. Thus some play time here.
The poison from the poison stream caught up to you ELEVEN years ago and you floated out of here. Sept. 14, 08
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
This map is interesting, I did read somewhere that it's also up to states as what is paid for minimum wage.
http://www.dol.gov/whd/minwage/america.htm (Sorry MikePegg, I now realize you already posted this link!)
And Georgia pays lower than Fed rates. (If the job is not subject to the federal Fair Labor Standards Act, then state, city, or other local laws may determine the minimum wage. A common exemption to the federal minimum wage is a company having revenue of less than $500,000 per year while not engaging in any interstate commerce.) $5.15 is minimum wage in GA, The lowest pay wage for min. wage in the country. Anyone would be wise to get out of GA if they need to work to survive (which is most of us). San Francisco is paid the most minimum wage: $10.55 since January 1, 2013. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimum_wa ... ted_States
According to the act, workers must be paid minimum wage and overtime pay must be one-and-a-half times regular pay.
New York state isn’t waiting for Congress to raise the federal minimum wage. Instead, lawmakers in Albany have crafted a deal that would raise the state’s minimum wage from $7.25 to $9 an hour. But not everybody will be getting a raise.
Under the current deal, approved by Democratic Gov. Andrew Cuomo but not yet signed into law, workers who rely on tips for a substantial portion of their income will maintain an existing significantly lower minimum wage.
New York’s tipped employees—defined [PDF] by the U.S. Labor Department as those workers who make more than $30 per month in tips—earn a base minimum wage of between $4.90 and $5.65 per hour, depending on which industry they work in. The federal minimum wage for tipped employees is $2.13 an hour, with tips expected to bring them up to at least $7.25.
“Restaurant workers are the largest group of full-time workers living in poverty and they are being completely left out of this increase,” said Saru Jayaraman, co-director of the restaurant workers coalition ROC United, in a statement. “We’re glad that New York state is taking action to improve conditions for low-wage workers by increasing the minimum wage, but excluding tipped workers from the proposed plan is a huge oversight and ignores the needs of millions of New York workers.”
On Wednesday, ROC United staged a “Twitter rally” in it encouraged sympathetic parties to tweet their support for a higher tipped minimum wage at various New York politicians.
The fate of workers who earn tips in New York could have national implications as the conversation around the minimum wage continues at the federal level.
ROC United has campaigned for a higher minimum wage for tipped workers on the federal level. Such an increase would affect millions of American workers. As of 2010, the Bureau of Labor Statistics estimates that some 2.3 million Americans were employed as waiters and waitresses alone–and about 73% of tipped workers are women, according to a 2011 report [PDF] by the Economic Policy Institute.
As the Economic Policy Institute points out, “Many tipped workers are unaware that their tips and hourly wages must add up to at least the minimum wage. At the same time, employers are unlikely to ensure that their workers are paid appropriately—it is up to the employees to know and understand this law.”
Tipped employees are also exceedingly vulnerable to wage theft, according to the National Employment Law Project (NELP). In a 2009 survey [PDF] of 4,387 low-wage workers, NELP found that 30% of tipped workers “were not paid the tipped worker minimum wage,” and 12% “experienced tip stealing by their employer or supervisor.”
Elsewhere in the Northeast, Rhode Island might soon pass legislation aimed at boosting tipped workers’ incomes. Democrats in both chambers of the state legislature have proposed laws which would ban employers from appropriating any of their workers’ tips. Currently, employers are free to deduct tip money from their workers’ incomes, so long as the workers continue to earn a legal minimum wage.
Joey DeFrancesco, a former hotel worker who now runs the worker advocacy site Joey Quits, explained why he is campaigning for the law in a statement.
“I experienced tip theft firsthand while working at the Renaissance Providence Hotel,” he said. “Through deceptive automatic service charges and by including themselves in our tip pool, the hotel and our supervisors were taking more than half the tip money customers thought they were giving us. I tried to bring the case to the US Department of Labor, but I discovered tip stealing is not covered by federal law. Rhode Island needs to end this terrible practice that’s robbing much needed money from our state’s lowest paid workers.”
The federal minimum wage increase proposed by Congressman Joe Kennedy, D-Mass., would increase the base wage for tipped employees from $2.13 to $5.08 per hour. Similar proposals in Missouri and New Mexico would also increase the tipped minimum wage, though a proposal to do the same in Maryland recently failed.
The printing industry trains on the job. I didn't work at any dinky company, it is one of the biggest in the country. Nearly everyone working in production only needed a HS diploma or GED to get a job. Printing is an industry sinking fast. And you know that Pandora, since you're married to an employer.
The Federal Minimum Wage of $7.25 per hour is the minimum hourly pay any non-exempt worker in the United States can be paid for his work. The Federal Minimum Wage is applicable nationwide, and overrides any state laws that provide a lower minimum wage rate to ensure that the local minimum wage in all states is at least $7.25 per hour. The Federal Minimum Wage was last updated in 2009.
http://www.minimum-wage.org/states.asp?state=Georgia
Georgia's minimum wage is $5.15 per hour. This is less then the Federal Minimum Wage. This amount is obsolete, as the Federal Minimum Wage of $7.25 takes precedent
exempt workers are seasonal, some students, tipped employees etc.
But fine by me if people stop flooding into Ga it's getting a bit crowded here
Our industry is ever changing with new equipment.I'm sure it is much advanced since you have left.
People are trained both off the job and on. As I said our experience is all the workers
have educations in the graphic arts field. Even JB back in the day graduated
from a PIAG school and also taught there.
We have had many students work for us while still in school.
What did you do in the printing industry? Small world by the way. I've met others here as well.
We have many customers that are PJ fans, other printers too.
JB started as a stripper...
when we met I thought he meant a different kind of stripper
How many times a day do you think you hold the printed word Jean?
Go to the grocery store much? shop for lady items? buy a six pack?
go to the frig or cupboard and read a bit.
do you think you might need some business cards for your new job?
do they use logo envelopes, stationary ? how about propaganda, do they have kit packs, promotions,
conferences? How about dvd's educational and otherwise? Anyone need a banner?
How about restaurants do you hold menus? ever get a coupon? how about a take one pad?
Don't get me started on the mega churches and 12,000 name badges
Or the foundations and charity events. How about the new film industry here in Atl
sweet! watch a movie and notice the props. Anchorman 2 Hunger Games II
tv shows notice the props specially printed. I could go on and on. It's silly really.
My husband is my boss and he'd say I am his
he is the Pres I am the Secretary/Treasurer. I handle the employees and they come to me.
I also handle the raises and the unemployment benefits etc etc...
I am an employer and proud to be.
order finished ready for shipping by 12noon tomorrow.
thank you.
i pay $22.50
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
1) not once in the 2 threads in this topic did I say I was against unemployment benefits. I'm not sure why the conversation moved to unemployment. Two seperate issues that have nothing to do with each other.
2) I don't know everyone's back story and the problems they face in life. I sincerely hope everyone can make a earn a good wage and make their ends meet.
Thank you all for an educated debate.
These conversations tend to morph every now and then- particularly if they are lively.
Nobody here (if I can speak for all) is doubting the fact that you wish people well.
Make sure to stick around- this place gets pretty fun sometimes!
A debate about whether or not unemployment benefits fit into the category of 'help' in sued
I missed the part of why you couldn't have any help, still confused about that,
although being an employer who has paid for unemployment benefits for 22 years,
for employees who lose their job due to no fault of their own,
I do not look at that as help but an earned benefit.
I think most employers and working people would agree.
I've enjoyed learning about other posters work background
and I want to add that I learn so much from people
here in AMT. This from their views, their research, their experiences.
I learn from researching topics myself as well.
I like hearing about other countries first hand and always enjoy the patriotism each person
has for their country.