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  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 10,264
    Peter Hooks son will be playing Bass. They are going for the triple guitar attack.

  • Zod
    Zod Posts: 10,953
    I saw them twice back in the day.  Once at a Lollapalooza '94 in support of Siamese Dream, and once in early '97 in support of Mellon Collie.  Both were amazing shows, and its hard to believe the 2nd one.   Mellon Collie at the height of their popularity selling out arenas, and the whole crowd rocking the fuck out.

    I was pretty stoked about this reunion at first.  I loved the pumpkins and we don't have that many of the big 90s bands left. 

    Without D'Arcy, it feels like a continuation of where they left off before Billy went Axl.   They weren't that great anymore at the end of their initial run.   Adore was ok, and then they faded away after that.   I was pretty stoked, now I'm kind of meh about it.

    I'm completely surprised that it's an Arena tour.  It seemed like Pumpkins and replacements had been relegated to theatre's and other small venues.   Other than Maybe Chicago/New York/L.A that have massive populations to support it.   Can they really sell out arenas?  Even when I was super stoked about the reunion, most other people didn't care.
  • facepollution
    facepollution Posts: 6,834
    Yeah I question if they can really sell out arenas, I guess we will see.  

    I think Billy Corgan has spent a lot of time being his own worst enemy - I've no doubt he can still write within that winning formula, he's spent much of the last 18 years or so trying to prove otherwise, but there's usually at least one song amongst all the tuneless experimentation that proves he can still write those super melodic tunes.  Stand Inside Your Love, Untitled, Tarantula etc, all have that original Pumpkins magic.
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 10,264
    Yeah, he always trips on his own ego. Had he not run his mouth about former bandmates, other bands and reunions, I think there would be a whole lot more excitement. I think most of these shows are gonna have $20 tickets the day of. I'm not even gonna look at tickets until the day before. 


  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 32,092
    Corey G said:
    PearlStripes said:
    I got to see them in Iowa City, IA in 1993.  Siamese Dreams tour in a small bar.  Insane show
    Saw this same tour in Seattle at a small club called DV8. Stood in line to get in the show with Ed and Jeff. A friend and I were talking to Jeff about when their second album was gonna come out. Cool ass dude...

    Siamese Dream is one of my fave albums of all time. Would be awesome if they did an anniversary tour! 
    Msg can they sell it out ? 
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  • pledgeagrievance
    pledgeagrievance Posts: 2,874
    No 
  • Zod
    Zod Posts: 10,953
    edited February 2018
    josevolution said:
    Corey G said:
    PearlStripes said:
    I got to see them in Iowa City, IA in 1993.  Siamese Dreams tour in a small bar.  Insane show
    Saw this same tour in Seattle at a small club called DV8. Stood in line to get in the show with Ed and Jeff. A friend and I were talking to Jeff about when their second album was gonna come out. Cool ass dude...

    Siamese Dream is one of my fave albums of all time. Would be awesome if they did an anniversary tour! 
    Msg can they sell it out ? 
    wouldn't that be one of the more likely ones to sell out.  MSG is an arena, and the new york area has a really big population.   The test would be in the arena's that aren't in mega cities?
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  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,624
    turrible.
    If I had known then what I know now...

    Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
    VIC 07
    EV LA1 08
    Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
    Columbus 10
    EV LA 11
    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
    Missoula 24
  • RoleModelsinBlood31
    RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,249
    Good call and thanks to those that questioned if they can sell out an arena or not.  That made me feel a ton better- can’t say I really need tickets, but I may go old school on this one and stop by the box office here in town and pick up a few tickets when they go on sale- no need to go online though, I too don’t think they’re that big of a deal these days and the arena will be only 2/3 full.
    I'm like an opening band for your mom.
  • 3days
    3days Posts: 1,200
    edited February 2018
    The thing to know about Billy Corgan is that he is a silly ninny.

    He fired a former Pumpkins' manager, only to have that manager's replacement quit shortly thereafter (her quoted reason was because Billy Corgan made her sick).

    He broke up the Pumpkins, saying that he had taken pop music as far as he possibly could, and that the Pumpkins were no longer interesting to him. At one point he insulted James Iha, and called bassist D'arcy a "mean-spirited drug addict." A few years later, he paid for a full page ad in the Chicago Tribune and Sun Times, pleading for his band back (Iha and D'arcy flatly refused to come back and work with him at the time).

    Aside from an uninteresting solo album, Billy also formed the band Zwan in his Pumpkins off time. After Zwan broke up, he went out of his way to insult his former Zwan bandmates, calling them "filthy", "opportunistic", "selfish" and "posers".

    Billy also spent some of his humbling Pumpkins off-time appearing at professional wrestling matches. His appearances had little to do with music. In the ECW, Billy broke a guitar over someone's head.

    Then of course, there was the William Corgan phase... is he still doing that? The Pumpkins redux, unsuccessful albums, the appearances on InfoWars, the WTF Swine flu theory, the insults toward many of his peers, and now... William once again finds himself at odds with a former bandmate.

    I'm happy for everyone who is excited about the new shows. I'm not trying to criticize the tour, or revisiting old albums, or his art... all of that is subjective. Regardless, this guy is a clown. 

    Post edited by 3days on
  • buck502000
    buck502000 Birthplace of GIBSON guitar Posts: 8,951
    edited February 2018
    I think Billy is a megalomaniac.  Siamese Dream is a classic album.  And I will just leave it at that. 
  • Corey G
    Corey G Tacompton, WA Posts: 37
    Damn. Tix are as high as $130 before fees! Anybody heard of a presale happening? So far I’ve found that their only doing a general sale this Friday. Maybe someone else has heard different? 
  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 18,029
    Haven't seen anything about presales.
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  • elvistheking44
    elvistheking44 Posts: 4,551
    Corey G said:
    Damn. Tix are as high as $130 before fees! Anybody heard of a presale happening? So far I’ve found that their only doing a general sale this Friday. Maybe someone else has heard different? 
    Haven’t seen any presale info either.  I honestly believe Billy is overestimating these venues.  I plan on picking up StubHub tix day of show.
  • Red Lukin
    Red Lukin Canada Posts: 2,994
    I'm torn on whether to buy or tomorrow or not.  2 tix for like $340...ouch.  I think Zwan was like $25 a ticket and don't remember what I paid for SP when I saw them a couple of times in the past but I don't think it was a lot.
  • Indifference71
    Indifference71 Chicago Posts: 14,924
    Not much of an urge to go especially since they're playing Chicago on a Monday night and it's the week before the 2 PJ shows at Wrigley.  I'll probably skip it.
  • Corey G
    Corey G Tacompton, WA Posts: 37
    elvistheking44 said:
    Corey G said:
    Damn. Tix are as high as $130 before fees! Anybody heard of a presale happening? So far I’ve found that their only doing a general sale this Friday. Maybe someone else has heard different? 
    Haven’t seen any presale info either.  I honestly believe Billy is overestimating these venues.  I plan on picking up StubHub tix day of show.
    My friend and I were talking about the same thing. We decided to do the same. Let the scalper fucks buy up all the tix and then get some closer to the show when they’re scrambling to get rid of them. I have a good feeling it’s gonna happen that way...
  • Corey G
    Corey G Tacompton, WA Posts: 37

    Red Lukin said:
    I'm torn on whether to buy or tomorrow or not.  2 tix for like $340...ouch.  I think Zwan was like $25 a ticket and don't remember what I paid for SP when I saw them a couple of times in the past but I don't think it was a lot.
    Last time I saw them, tix were $20! Lol. That was at a club show in like 1993 though! 
  • RoleModelsinBlood31
    RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,249
    Wtf, I wouldn’t pay $100 for a ticket to SP, aka Billy Corgan’s Slaves.  I’m definitely waiting until a week before the show and then watching craigslist/ticketbrokers and getting them cheap
    I'm like an opening band for your mom.
  • kramer73
    kramer73 Posts: 2,636
    Indifference71 said:
    Not much of an urge to go especially since they're playing Chicago on a Monday night and it's the week before the 2 PJ shows at Wrigley.  I'll probably skip it.
    That's my issue.  Plus I would be driving 3 hours.  I would basically have to take 2 days off.

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