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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,957
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    Ew, that's nasty! :lol:

    Ahhh

    I want to get drunk :lol:
    That makes two of us :lol:
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  • groovemegrooveme Posts: 353
    LITTLETON, New Hampshire (Reuters) - A New Hampshire state representative apologized on Wednesday for using "vagina" as a synonym for "woman" in a mass email to lawmakers as part of a gun-law debate.

    Representative Peter Hansen was responding to fellow Republican Representative Steve Vaillancourt, who had urged repeal of the state's Stand Your Ground law. The 2011 law allows use of deadly force even if people could safely retreat from a threatening situation.

    "What could possibly be missing from those factual tales of successful retreat in VT (Vermont), Germany and the bowels of Amsterdam," Hansen wrote in an email to the 400-member House of Representatives in response to a speech by Vaillancourt.

    "Why children and vagina's (sic) of course. While the tales relate the actions of a solitary male the outcome cannot relate to similar situations where children and women and mothers are the potential victims."


    It scares me that there are so many men out there who are in government that have these misogynistic attitudes about women
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,957
    grooveme wrote:
    LITTLETON, New Hampshire (Reuters) - A New Hampshire state representative apologized on Wednesday for using "vagina" as a synonym for "woman" in a mass email to lawmakers as part of a gun-law debate.

    Representative Peter Hansen was responding to fellow Republican Representative Steve Vaillancourt, who had urged repeal of the state's Stand Your Ground law. The 2011 law allows use of deadly force even if people could safely retreat from a threatening situation.

    "What could possibly be missing from those factual tales of successful retreat in VT (Vermont), Germany and the bowels of Amsterdam," Hansen wrote in an email to the 400-member House of Representatives in response to a speech by Vaillancourt.

    "Why children and vagina's (sic) of course. While the tales relate the actions of a solitary male the outcome cannot relate to similar situations where children and women and mothers are the potential victims."


    It scares me that there are so many men out there who are in government that have these misogynistic attitudes about women
    :fp: Holy fuck, that is just so stupid. What an asshole. So glad this went public.
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  • PJ_Soul wrote:
    grooveme wrote:
    LITTLETON, New Hampshire (Reuters) - A New Hampshire state representative apologized on Wednesday for using "vagina" as a synonym for "woman" in a mass email to lawmakers as part of a gun-law debate.

    Representative Peter Hansen was responding to fellow Republican Representative Steve Vaillancourt, who had urged repeal of the state's Stand Your Ground law. The 2011 law allows use of deadly force even if people could safely retreat from a threatening situation.

    "What could possibly be missing from those factual tales of successful retreat in VT (Vermont), Germany and the bowels of Amsterdam," Hansen wrote in an email to the 400-member House of Representatives in response to a speech by Vaillancourt.

    "Why children and vagina's (sic) of course. While the tales relate the actions of a solitary male the outcome cannot relate to similar situations where children and women and mothers are the potential victims."


    It scares me that there are so many men out there who are in government that have these misogynistic attitudes about women
    :fp: Holy fuck, that is just so stupid. What an asshole. So glad this went public.

    What do they have against women? honestly....
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,605
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    grooveme wrote:
    LITTLETON, New Hampshire (Reuters) - A New Hampshire state representative apologized on Wednesday for using "vagina" as a synonym for "woman" in a mass email to lawmakers as part of a gun-law debate.

    Representative Peter Hansen was responding to fellow Republican Representative Steve Vaillancourt, who had urged repeal of the state's Stand Your Ground law. The 2011 law allows use of deadly force even if people could safely retreat from a threatening situation.

    "What could possibly be missing from those factual tales of successful retreat in VT (Vermont), Germany and the bowels of Amsterdam," Hansen wrote in an email to the 400-member House of Representatives in response to a speech by Vaillancourt.

    "Why children and vagina's (sic) of course. While the tales relate the actions of a solitary male the outcome cannot relate to similar situations where children and women and mothers are the potential victims."


    It scares me that there are so many men out there who are in government that have these misogynistic attitudes about women
    :fp: Holy fuck, that is just so stupid. What an asshole. So glad this went public.

    What do they have against women? honestly....
    respect doesnt seem to be a part of it, thats apparent.
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  • rearviewrossrearviewross Posts: 3,055
    edited April 2013
    Senate blocks gun control in Senate.

    Here is the voting record. http://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/legisl ... /votes.htm

    I am guessing the second one is not really what it says since Democrats voted against it. The first one is the gun control bill on the news.
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  • JeanwahJeanwah Posts: 6,363
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    grooveme wrote:
    LITTLETON, New Hampshire (Reuters) - A New Hampshire state representative apologized on Wednesday for using "vagina" as a synonym for "woman" in a mass email to lawmakers as part of a gun-law debate.

    Representative Peter Hansen was responding to fellow Republican Representative Steve Vaillancourt, who had urged repeal of the state's Stand Your Ground law. The 2011 law allows use of deadly force even if people could safely retreat from a threatening situation.

    "What could possibly be missing from those factual tales of successful retreat in VT (Vermont), Germany and the bowels of Amsterdam," Hansen wrote in an email to the 400-member House of Representatives in response to a speech by Vaillancourt.

    "Why children and vagina's (sic) of course. While the tales relate the actions of a solitary male the outcome cannot relate to similar situations where children and women and mothers are the potential victims."


    It scares me that there are so many men out there who are in government that have these misogynistic attitudes about women
    :fp: Holy fuck, that is just so stupid. What an asshole. So glad this went public.

    What do they have against women? honestly....

    They are scared of us, vaginas. Good thing we represent a good share of the vote.
  • riotgrlriotgrl Posts: 1,895
    Jeanwah wrote:
    PJ_Soul wrote:


    :fp: Holy fuck, that is just so stupid. What an asshole. So glad this went public.

    What do they have against women? honestly....

    They are scared of us, vaginas. Good thing we represent a good share of the vote.

    If only we could get other women to understand that some of these idiots hate women :fp:
    Are we getting something out of this all-encompassing trip?

    Seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned...

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  • JeanwahJeanwah Posts: 6,363
    riotgrl wrote:
    Jeanwah wrote:

    What do they have against women? honestly....

    They are scared of us, vaginas. Good thing we represent a good share of the vote.

    If only we could get other women to understand that some of these idiots hate women :fp:

    Exactly!
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    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • JeanwahJeanwah Posts: 6,363
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    0 jobs bills. Well there you have it.
  • JimmyVJimmyV Posts: 19,172
    Boston Bomber mirandized because...Eric Holder is sympathetic to terrorists?!?!

    http://tv.msnbc.com/2013/04/30/gop-rep- ... errorists/

    Republican Rep. Louie Gohmert seems to believe that the United States attorney general is siding with terrorists.

    The Texas lawmaker, not exactly known for his rhetorical restraint, made the suggestion on conservative shock jock Glenn Beck’s radio show on Tuesday, arguing that Eric Holder allowed a federal magistrate to read Boston bombing suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev his Miranda rights because Holder is sympathetic to terrorists.

    After a dramatic, day-long manhunt earlier this month, Tsarnaev underwent 16 hours of questioning before he was advised of his constitutional rights to silence and a lawyer. Federal authorities invoked an exception to the Miranda Rights, which can be enacted when public safety may be threatened.

    “Think about it, when your attorney general spent more of his legal career helping terrorists than defending the country, then you know we all have certain biases and lean certain ways,” Gohmert said. The audio was first posted on Think Progress.

    Before working in the Obama administration, Holder was an attorney at Covington & Burling in Washington D.C. His clients included big corporations, such as Merck and the National Football League. He also defended global banana producer Chiquita in a case that had to do with the company’s payment of protection money to a group that was on the U.S. government’s list of terrorist organizations. Gohmert did not go into detail about Holder, but this latter episode may have been what Gohmert was referring to.

    The firm also defended some Guantanamo detainees, but Holder was not involved.

    Gohmert didn’t stop at just baselessly accusing Holder. He also repeated previous claims that the Obama Administration is being advised by the Muslim Brotherhood.

    He said of Obama administration officials, “they either lie under oath or they do know the extent of the Muslim Brotherhood infiltration into our government.”
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  • rollingsrollings Posts: 7,124
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    grooveme wrote:
    LITTLETON, New Hampshire (Reuters) - A New Hampshire state representative apologized on Wednesday for using "vagina" as a synonym for "woman" in a mass email to lawmakers as part of a gun-law debate.

    Representative Peter Hansen was responding to fellow Republican Representative Steve Vaillancourt, who had urged repeal of the state's Stand Your Ground law. The 2011 law allows use of deadly force even if people could safely retreat from a threatening situation.

    "What could possibly be missing from those factual tales of successful retreat in VT (Vermont), Germany and the bowels of Amsterdam," Hansen wrote in an email to the 400-member House of Representatives in response to a speech by Vaillancourt.

    "Why children and vagina's (sic) of course. While the tales relate the actions of a solitary male the outcome cannot relate to similar situations where children and women and mothers are the potential victims."


    It scares me that there are so many men out there who are in government that have these misogynistic attitudes about women
    :fp: Holy fuck, that is just so stupid. What an asshole. So glad this went public.

    yeah....what a penis
  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    rollings wrote:
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    grooveme wrote:
    LITTLETON, New Hampshire (Reuters) - A New Hampshire state representative apologized on Wednesday for using "vagina" as a synonym for "woman" in a mass email to lawmakers as part of a gun-law debate.

    Representative Peter Hansen was responding to fellow Republican Representative Steve Vaillancourt, who had urged repeal of the state's Stand Your Ground law. The 2011 law allows use of deadly force even if people could safely retreat from a threatening situation.

    "What could possibly be missing from those factual tales of successful retreat in VT (Vermont), Germany and the bowels of Amsterdam," Hansen wrote in an email to the 400-member House of Representatives in response to a speech by Vaillancourt.

    "Why children and vagina's (sic) of course. While the tales relate the actions of a solitary male the outcome cannot relate to similar situations where children and women and mothers are the potential victims."


    It scares me that there are so many men out there who are in government that have these misogynistic attitudes about women
    :fp: Holy fuck, that is just so stupid. What an asshole. So glad this went public.

    yeah....what a penis
    :lol: reminds me of that segment Ellen has on her show...
    people's emails say the damnedest things they send them in for her to read...
    when spellcheck fills it in like mine does on my new computer. Gotta watch that.
    Thank God I proof read when I sent out my emails to my Representatives,
    Senators and the President...
    I might have been arrested :? yikes!
  • peacefrompaulpeacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    rollings wrote:
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    grooveme wrote:
    LITTLETON, New Hampshire (Reuters) - A New Hampshire state representative apologized on Wednesday for using "vagina" as a synonym for "woman" in a mass email to lawmakers as part of a gun-law debate.

    Representative Peter Hansen was responding to fellow Republican Representative Steve Vaillancourt, who had urged repeal of the state's Stand Your Ground law. The 2011 law allows use of deadly force even if people could safely retreat from a threatening situation.

    "What could possibly be missing from those factual tales of successful retreat in VT (Vermont), Germany and the bowels of Amsterdam," Hansen wrote in an email to the 400-member House of Representatives in response to a speech by Vaillancourt.

    "Why children and vagina's (sic) of course. While the tales relate the actions of a solitary male the outcome cannot relate to similar situations where children and women and mothers are the potential victims."


    It scares me that there are so many men out there who are in government that have these misogynistic attitudes about women
    :fp: Holy fuck, that is just so stupid. What an asshole. So glad this went public.

    yeah....what a penis

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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    "it is an easy answer. we are just dicks."
    -Sen Pat Toomey R


    Pat Toomey: Background Checks Died Because GOP Didn't Want To Help Obama

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/0 ... 92690.html

    Sen. Pat Toomey (R-Pa.) revealed that some members of his party opposed expanding background checks for gun sales recently because they didn't want to "be seen helping the president."

    Two weeks ago, only three Republican senators voted for the bipartisan background checks amendment sponsored by Toomey and Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.), despite overwhelming popular support for such a measure.

    "In the end it didn’t pass because we're so politicized. There were some on my side who did not want to be seen helping the president do something he wanted to get done, just because the president wanted to do it,” Toomey admitted on Tuesday in an interview with Digital First Media editors in the offices of the Times Herald newspaper in Norristown, Pa.

    The Times Herald noted that in "subsequent comments," Toomey "tried to walk that remark part-way back by noting he meant to say Republicans across the nation in general, not just those in the Senate."

    Last week, Toomey placed more of the blame on the president himself, telling the Morning Call, "I would suggest the administration brought this on themselves. I think the president ran his re-election campaign in a divisive way. He divided Americans. He was using resentment of some Americans toward others to generate support for himself."

    Manchin has argued, however, that the National Rifle Association's decision to score the vote was the main reason the compromise amendment on background checks failed. Without it, he believed, 70 senators -- well above the 60-vote threshold needed for passage -- would have supported it.

    Opponents also pushed a significant amount of misinformation before the vote, including the myth that the legislation would lead to a federal gun registry. In fact, the bill would have made the creation of such a registry a felony carrying a prison sentence of up to 15 years.

    Toomey was pessimistic on Tuesday about the prospects of gun legislation moving forward, saying it's "not likely to happen any time soon."

    "The bill is available right now and Sen. (Majority leader Harry) Reid could bring it up for a vote at any time, but we need five people to change their minds," he said.

    Sens. Kelly Ayotte (R-N.H.), Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.) and other lawmakers who voted against the background checks legislation have seen drops in their poll numbers since opposing the legislation.

    Toomey, on the other hand, has seen his poll numbers rise.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • JeanwahJeanwah Posts: 6,363
    "it is an easy answer. we are just dicks."
    -Sen Pat Toomey R


    Pat Toomey: Background Checks Died Because GOP Didn't Want To Help Obama

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/0 ... 92690.html

    Sen. Pat Toomey (R-Pa.) revealed that some members of his party opposed expanding background checks for gun sales recently because they didn't want to "be seen helping the president."

    Two weeks ago, only three Republican senators voted for the bipartisan background checks amendment sponsored by Toomey and Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.), despite overwhelming popular support for such a measure.

    "In the end it didn’t pass because we're so politicized. There were some on my side who did not want to be seen helping the president do something he wanted to get done, just because the president wanted to do it,” Toomey admitted on Tuesday in an interview with Digital First Media editors in the offices of the Times Herald newspaper in Norristown, Pa.

    The Times Herald noted that in "subsequent comments," Toomey "tried to walk that remark part-way back by noting he meant to say Republicans across the nation in general, not just those in the Senate."

    Last week, Toomey placed more of the blame on the president himself, telling the Morning Call, "I would suggest the administration brought this on themselves. I think the president ran his re-election campaign in a divisive way. He divided Americans. He was using resentment of some Americans toward others to generate support for himself."

    Manchin has argued, however, that the National Rifle Association's decision to score the vote was the main reason the compromise amendment on background checks failed. Without it, he believed, 70 senators -- well above the 60-vote threshold needed for passage -- would have supported it.

    Opponents also pushed a significant amount of misinformation before the vote, including the myth that the legislation would lead to a federal gun registry. In fact, the bill would have made the creation of such a registry a felony carrying a prison sentence of up to 15 years.

    Toomey was pessimistic on Tuesday about the prospects of gun legislation moving forward, saying it's "not likely to happen any time soon."

    "The bill is available right now and Sen. (Majority leader Harry) Reid could bring it up for a vote at any time, but we need five people to change their minds," he said.

    Sens. Kelly Ayotte (R-N.H.), Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.) and other lawmakers who voted against the background checks legislation have seen drops in their poll numbers since opposing the legislation.

    Toomey, on the other hand, has seen his poll numbers rise.

    Wow. :shock: Someone actually admitted what we knew all along.

    Admitting you have a problem is usually the first step to recovery. But I don't know in this case. :?
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    Jeanwah wrote:
    Wow. :shock: Someone actually admitted what we knew all along.

    Admitting you have a problem is usually the first step to recovery. But I don't know in this case. :?
    unfortunately there is no recovery from something like this. the being a prick just to be a prick thing gives these guys power in the senate when they are in the minority. the guy knows that the president wanted this and that it was a reasonable law, but he could not be seen as helping the president because he would be primaried. it is all politics all the time with these republicans.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • JeanwahJeanwah Posts: 6,363
    http://progresstexas.org/blog/dewhurst- ... tside-home

    Dewhurst, Texas GOP Tout Doctor Who Thinks Women Need Permission to Work Outside the Home

    Phillip Martin - May 7, 2013

    David Dewhurst and Texas Republican lawmakers hosted a press conference Tuesday morning touting Steve Hotze, a Houston-area "doctor" who is suing to stop the Affordable Care Act being implemented in Texas. Hotze's rather insane beliefs include the idea that a woman must get permission from a man to work outside the home.

    The following is an overview of Hotze's beliefs:

    A wife may work outside the home only with her husband's consent
    Birth control pills prevent "the production of women's biologically identical female hormones and pheromones, making them less attractive to men"
    When men lose their testicles to disease or injury, they have difficulty reading a map, performing math problems and making decisions
    All disease and disability is caused by the sin of Adam and Eve
    Medical problems are frequently caused by personal sin
    No doctor shall provide medical service on the Sabbath

    ​The following is the statement I released to the press about Hotze - because, I mean, seriously?

    David Dewhurst and Greg Abbott oppose the Affordable Care Act because they believe in protecting corporate profits instead of protecting patient care. David Dewhurst should be embarrassed for lifting up the misogynistic nonsense of a snake oil salesman like Steve Hotze at the expense of providing better health care to Texans. If Dewhurst thinks Hotze is a reliable doctor, he must get his weather forecasts from a groundhog.
  • rearviewrossrearviewross Posts: 3,055
    Craziest Congressmen tournament from Real Time with Bill Maher. Funny and sad at the same time.

    Part1
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6E57gUbJ_I

    Part 2
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqkUbTLqz7E
    (Just goes to show you all you have to do to get Republicans votes is say you love God, guns and America.)
    Forced to endure, what I cannot forgive.
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    republican controlled house votes to repeal obamacare for the 37th time.

    as if the 37th time is the charm...

    number of jobs bills voted on? 0
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    out of touch republicans ?
    have you all been paying any attention to dem's in the white house lately. :lol:

    Godfather.
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    Godfather. wrote:
    out of touch republicans ?
    have you all been paying any attention to dem's in the white house lately. :lol:

    Godfather.
    the dems are not wasting time voting on things that have failed 36 times before in the senate...

    the dems are not playing political theater or going on political witch hunts instead of tending to the people's business like the economy or jobs.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • chadwickchadwick Posts: 21,157
    Godfather. wrote:
    out of touch republicans ?
    have you all been paying any attention to dem's in the white house lately. :lol:

    Godfather.

    have you all been paying any attention to rep's in san diego lately. :lol:

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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Godfather. wrote:
    out of touch republicans ?
    have you all been paying any attention to dem's in the white house lately. :lol:

    Godfather.
    the dems are not wasting time voting on things that have failed 36 times before in the senate...

    the dems are not playing political theater or going on political witch hunts instead of tending to the people's business like the economy or jobs.

    oooohhhh really, it very clear that they are paying more attention to the people....just ask the IRS :D


    Godfather.
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,605
    for the 37th time , we get it!!! You dont like this law.

    really what you show for the 36th time is the actual business of this country isnt important as grandstanding for the cameras with some bullshit symbolic vote that will go nowhere.
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,957
    Godfather. wrote:
    out of touch republicans ?
    have you all been paying any attention to dem's in the white house lately. :lol:

    Godfather.
    Didn't you read any of the post in this thread???
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  • aerialaerial Posts: 2,319
    Republicans seem to be helping with this....and not representing the American people


    Senate panel approves sweeping immigration reform bill



    http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/senate-panel-approves-deal-on-foreign-workers/2013/05/21/4ac8cfe4-c228-11e2-914f-a7aba60512a7_story.html


    this is all about wages
    The tripling of H1B proves that fact!
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    unsung wrote:
    I'm making a valid comparison on how much life is lost as compared to what the left perceives as the real issue. If you can't take honest debate don't create threads. Or at least state that you only want those that agree with you to reply.

    Here are more stats.

    In 2011 there were 2,513,171 documented deaths in the US.

    .34% were gun related, about 8500.
    .012% were related to so-called assault weapons, about 300.

    By comparison 1,210,000 abortions were performed in the US in 2008.

    Keep telling me that guns are the problem. You always say that a person is a law-abiding citizen until they use a gun in a crime. By that logic a dr is law abiding until he performs an abortion, now he is a murderer.


    Rand Paul 2016.
    says the opthomologist who was sued twice for malpractice...

    we are not going backward and arguing settled law.

    this is why the gop got their asses handed to them and will do it again in 2014. keep harping on abortion.

    I was sent a questioniar via e-mail from the republican party folks asking how can we improve on this and that..
    and first thing I mentioned was DROP THE ABORTION ISSUE.
    to me it's like banging your head aginst the wall and pissing off the people in the next room cause you're making too much noise :lol: what I believe about abortion has nothing to do with a polition and how he or she does their job.

    Godfather.
  • unsung wrote:
    I'm making a valid comparison on how much life is lost as compared to what the left perceives as the real issue. If you can't take honest debate don't create threads. Or at least state that you only want those that agree with you to reply.

    Here are more stats.

    In 2011 there were 2,513,171 documented deaths in the US.

    .34% were gun related, about 8500.
    .012% were related to so-called assault weapons, about 300.

    By comparison 1,210,000 abortions were performed in the US in 2008.

    Keep telling me that guns are the problem. You always say that a person is a law-abiding citizen until they use a gun in a crime. By that logic a dr is law abiding until he performs an abortion, now he is a murderer.


    Rand Paul 2016.

    so if you want to keep comparing abortion to guns, then why not abortion to, say, I don't know, heart disease caused by obesity? or cancer by smoking? is Ronald McDonald a murderer? How about Joe Camel?
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