Guns. Save. Lives.

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  • aerialaerial Posts: 2,319
    aerial wrote:
    the lives of the woman and children were saved.

    No they weren't. He wasn't armed. He wasn't going to kill them.

    Stop being such a drama queen.


    How do you know this? What was he going to do? Please tell.
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,781
    aerial wrote:
    aerial wrote:
    the lives of the woman and children were saved.

    No they weren't. He wasn't armed. He wasn't going to kill them.

    Stop being such a drama queen.


    How do you know this? What was he going to do? Please tell.

    Paranoia is soooooooo much fun
  • aerialaerial Posts: 2,319
    Call me paranoid if you like but since we have mind readers on the MT

    How about filing in the blank.........So the guy broke into the woman's home to___________.
    “We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
  • aerial wrote:
    Call me paranoid if you like but since we have mind readers on the MT

    How about filing in the blank.........So the guy broke into the woman's home to___________.
    steal ice cream and the woman put the ice cream cones at his ass..
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
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  • aerial wrote:
    Call me paranoid if you like but since we have mind readers on the MT

    How about filing in the blank.........So the guy broke into the woman's home to___________.

    well pro-gunners seem to be mind readers in that everyone out there is trying to kill you with their guns.
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  • riotgrlriotgrl LOUISVILLE Posts: 1,895
    I guess we have another shooting to add to this debate on here:

    http://news.yahoo.com/4-dead-police-standoff-colo-townhome-165923693.html
    Are we getting something out of this all-encompassing trip?

    Seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned...

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  • unsung wrote:
    Fuck guns. No positives about guns. PERIOD.

    Guns are bad fuckers


    My loaded gun did not harm anyone last night. I tried to ask it why it was bad but then I remembered that IT'S JUST A PIECE OF FUCKING METAL!!!!!

    A responsible gun owner doesn't have a loaded gun at their house. They have a gun locked up. They have ammunition locked elsewhere.

    I'm disappointed unsung. All that talk of you really knowing how to handle weapons and all. Sheesh.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,717
    aerial wrote:
    aerial wrote:
    So it's okay to break into someones house as long as you don't kill them?


    I said nothing like that at all, but I can see how you desperately would like to think that.

    You said "guns save lives" and then offered a story where a burglar was shot and killed. Nobody's life was saved.

    Of course she was totally within her rights to shoot him and I may have done the same thing if it were me. But saying this is proof that "Guns. Save. Lives." is "Really. Fucking. Offbase."


    If it makes you feel better the bad gut did not die.....the lives of the woman and children were saved. "He wasn't inside that house hunting down the woman and her kids in an attic crawl space, because he was having a hard time getting the big screen off the wall'.
    soooooo their lives were saved from a thief that was interested in a big screen on the wall? Were they under neath the big screen and thought they would die if he dropped it on them?

    I'm failing here to understand how lives were "saved" from a thief?
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,781
    aerial wrote:
    Call me paranoid if you like but since we have mind readers on the MT

    How about filing in the blank.........So the guy broke into the woman's home to___________.

    Take her guns and give them to the federal govt :shock:

    Did I win??? :lol:
  • aerialaerial Posts: 2,319
    he had a chance to steal whatever he wanted but instead hunted down the women and children in the house.....why?
    Do you have a wife, kids, mother , sisters? If so what would you think they should do in this type of situation?
    “We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
  • aerial wrote:
    he had a chance to steal whatever he wanted but instead hunted down the women and children in the house.....why?
    Do you have a wife, kids, mother , sisters? If so what would you think they should do in this type of situation?

    My gawd you are stubborn.

    They should use the shotgun they keep in their house for home protection. Nobody is suggesting this shouldn't be an option.

    People are suggesting she doesn't need a rocket launcher or assault rifle to do the job that a shotgun is more than capable of.

    These assualt rifles that get left lying around... they end up in bad hands. The results are disastrous. We know this. I mean even our most responsible owners such as Unsung leaves their guns lying around loaded and ready to rock.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • unsung wrote:
    Fuck guns. No positives about guns. PERIOD.

    Guns are bad fuckers


    My loaded gun did not harm anyone last night. I tried to ask it why it was bad but then I remembered that IT'S JUST A PIECE OF FUCKING METAL!!!!!

    A responsible gun owner doesn't have a loaded gun at their house. They have a gun locked up. They have ammunition locked elsewhere.

    I'm disappointed unsung. All that talk of you really knowing how to handle weapons and all. Sheesh.

    yeah, the responsible gun owner schtick just went out the window.
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  • responsible gun owner ......there is no such thing.....
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • aerial wrote:
    Call me paranoid if you like but since we have mind readers on the MT

    How about filing in the blank.........So the guy broke into the woman's home to___________.

    Take her guns and give them to the federal govt :shock:

    Did I win??? :lol:
    what??come on...my story with the ice cream cones is away better!!! :lol:
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • aerialaerial Posts: 2,319
    Three held in Palmview home invasion

    http://www.valleycentral.com/news/story.aspx?id=402271#.UOnK07Zzzwl

    Texas Gun Training Class for School Teachers Sells Out, Over 400 Teachers Attend
    http://www.mysanantonio.com/default/article/Handgun-classes-are-drawing-teachers-4154485.php

    Phoenix homeowner shoots and kills man trying to get in daughters' bedroom
    http://www.azfamily.com/news/Phoenix-homeowner-reportedly-shoots-and-kills-alleged-intruder-185438952.html
    “We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,781
    aerial wrote:
    Call me paranoid if you like but since we have mind readers on the MT

    How about filing in the blank.........So the guy broke into the woman's home to___________.

    Take her guns and give them to the federal govt :shock:

    Did I win??? :lol:
    what??come on...my story with the ice cream cones is away better!!! :lol:

    But are they sugar cones? or waffle cones? or pretzel cones?
  • what??come on...my story with the ice cream cones is away better!!! :lol:

    But are they sugar cones? or waffle cones? or pretzel cones?
    waffle cones!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,781
    what??come on...my story with the ice cream cones is away better!!! :lol:

    But are they sugar cones? or waffle cones? or pretzel cones?
    waffle cones!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    ok you win :clap:
  • aerial wrote:
    Three held in Palmview home invasion

    http://www.valleycentral.com/news/story.aspx?id=402271#.UOnK07Zzzwl

    Texas Gun Training Class for School Teachers Sells Out, Over 400 Teachers Attend
    http://www.mysanantonio.com/default/article/Handgun-classes-are-drawing-teachers-4154485.php

    Phoenix homeowner shoots and kills man trying to get in daughters' bedroom
    http://www.azfamily.com/news/Phoenix-homeowner-reportedly-shoots-and-kills-alleged-intruder-185438952.html

    I see nothing wrong with stories 1 and 3. They were defending themselves inside their homes with non-automatic assault rifles. Good for them. No issues here.
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  • aerial wrote:
    he had a chance to steal whatever he wanted but instead hunted down the women and children in the house.....why?
    Do you have a wife, kids, mother , sisters? If so what would you think they should do in this type of situation?

    Hey I got a wife and kids at home. We feel safe, we don't have guns, I don't believe in them as I don't hunt. I do play baseball and golf though. I have a couple 7 irons laying around the house as well as a baseball bat in the bedroom and an aluminum bat at the top of the stairs.

    When the bad guys come I have 2 choices, hit the bad guy with either a bat or a golf club or I could swing and hit his bullets back at him.
    And my wife and kids can all swing a bat.

    Move to Canada, leave Your guns in Yankee land. You'll feel safer and you'll realize we don't have gun crazy people up here looking to shoot people.

    We do have a few crazy deer hunters though
  • DS1119DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    aerial wrote:

    Friday, Jan. 4, 2013
    Woman hiding with kids shoots intruder


    http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/woman-hiding-kids-shoots-intruder/nTm7s/

    Um... Nobody's life was saved in that story. He didn't threaten to kill them and he wasn't armed.

    He's broken it to places before and never killed anyone. I'm not defending him but she just shot and probably killed a guy.. So the gun didn't save a life, it ended one.


    Absolutely ridiculous. I guess she should have conducted a full interview of the subject first before shooting him. :fp:
  • Last-12-ExitLast-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    aerial wrote:
    Guns. Save. Lives.
    Let's post why we need guns.... besides
    As George Washington wrote, “A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government.” George Mason said, “I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.”


    Friday, Jan. 4, 2013
    Woman hiding with kids shoots intruder


    http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/woman-hiding-kids-shoots-intruder/nTm7s/

    That was also written in a time where the weapon of choice was a musket.
  • DS1119DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    aerial wrote:
    Guns. Save. Lives.
    Let's post why we need guns.... besides
    As George Washington wrote, “A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government.” George Mason said, “I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.”


    Friday, Jan. 4, 2013
    Woman hiding with kids shoots intruder


    http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/woman-hiding-kids-shoots-intruder/nTm7s/

    That was also written in a time where the weapon of choice was a musket.


    ...and yet it still translates today.
  • a friend today felt a pain at his chest,at heart area,..
    he told me to call a doctor
    i told him no..ill go to buy him a gun...cos guns save lifes..
    i think he will never speak to me again...
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • DS1119DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    a friend today felt a pain at his chest,at heart area,..
    he told me to call a doctor
    i told him no..ill go to buy him a gun...cos guns save lifes..
    i think he will never speak to me again...



    Should have probably bought him a pack of cigarettes or a bottle of booze instead. Those are legal but serve no actual purpose or health benefits. Those two are actually more harm and have zero benefit to life.
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    DS1119 wrote:
    a friend today felt a pain at his chest,at heart area,..
    he told me to call a doctor
    i told him no..ill go to buy him a gun...cos guns save lifes..
    i think he will never speak to me again...



    Should have probably bought him a pack of cigarettes or a bottle of booze instead. Those are legal but serve no actual purpose or health benefits. Those two are actually more harm and have zero benefit to life.

    Which explains why people from every corner of the World have been drinking alcohol and taking drugs since the dawn of time.
  • DS1119DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    Byrnzie wrote:
    DS1119 wrote:
    a friend today felt a pain at his chest,at heart area,..
    he told me to call a doctor
    i told him no..ill go to buy him a gun...cos guns save lifes..
    i think he will never speak to me again...



    Should have probably bought him a pack of cigarettes or a bottle of booze instead. Those are legal but serve no actual purpose or health benefits. Those two are actually more harm and have zero benefit to life.

    Which explains why people from every corner of the World have been drinking alcohol and taking drugs since the dawn of time.


    Well that makes sense. :?
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    DS1119 wrote:
    Well that makes sense. :?

    Whether it makes sense to you or not is beside the point. It's a fact. Period.

    I can't wait to see what your next juvenile comment will be...
  • Byrnzie wrote:

    Which explains why people from every corner of the World have been drinking alcohol and taking drugs since the dawn of time.
    sorry Byrn...you are wrong...the first thing people did in this world since the dawn of time was to be responsible gun owners...
    actually i think humans came from responsible gun owners...than monkeys,or whatever anyone believes human came from..
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Byrnzie wrote:

    Which explains why people from every corner of the World have been drinking alcohol and taking drugs since the dawn of time.
    sorry Byrn...you are wrong...the first thing people did in this world since the dawn of time was to be responsible gun owners...
    actually i think humans came from responsible gun owners...than monkeys,or whatever anyone believes human came from..

    :lol::lol:
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