But you know what CBG, once these little ones and their teachers have been laid to rest and there's nothing more of interest to the sensationalist media; once the media have done with the killer, the 'nutter', this story will go away. Until the next time. As insensitive as it may seem, one needs to beat the iron while it's hot. I think this was one outrage too many and I really hope something comes out of it. And I'm not just talking about revised gun laws.
Exactly, now is the perfect time to talk about it.
But you know what CBG, once these little ones and their teachers have been laid to rest and there's nothing more of interest to the sensationalist media; once the media have done with the killer, the 'nutter', this story will go away. Until the next time. As insensitive as it may seem, one needs to beat the iron while it's hot. I think this was one outrage too many and I really hope something comes out of it. And I'm not just talking about revised gun laws.
I understand. I just really can't stomach hearing guns being glorified at the moment. I hope this will lead to some changes. Something has to give.
"I need your strength for me to be strong...I need your love to feel loved"
I just really can't stomach hearing guns being glorified at the moment.
Yeah, that is hard to stomach. As those stating this is not a gun issue at all.
I keep hearing "he could have used a knife, he could have used a pillow." Yeah he could have. I wish he did. But he didn't. If he had, some of those little lives may not have been lost. I just keep needing to step back from this one.
"I need your strength for me to be strong...I need your love to feel loved"
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oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
I was laughing because of the very weird way the media has handled this. All the misreporting and rumors flying......
I see now what you mean.
I don't think I would have derived what you meant, though, without the explanation, which is why I asked....
I didn't think you were laughing at the recent incident or anything like that.
I just really can't stomach hearing guns being glorified at the moment.
Yeah, that is hard to stomach. As those stating this is not a gun issue at all.
I keep hearing "he could have used a knife, he could have used a pillow." Yeah he could have. I wish he did. But he didn't. If he had, some of those little lives may not have been lost. I just keep needing to step back from this one.
we have this saying in Greece
"not in my ass and u can put it wherever you want"
aka,those idiots dont get what going on,will get it,only if the victims was their kids
now??other people suffering,so they say any fuckin stupid theory they want...
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
I just really can't stomach hearing guns being glorified at the moment.
Yeah, that is hard to stomach. As those stating this is not a gun issue at all.
I keep hearing "he could have used a knife, he could have used a pillow." Yeah he could have. I wish he did. But he didn't. If he had, some of those little lives may not have been lost. I just keep needing to step back from this one.
this is the biggest load of horseshit ive ever heard... and its such a lazy justification not to change gun laws. we all know that if a pillow was used those children and teachers would be alive today and we wouldnt be having this conversation. someone comes at you with a pillow you laugh, slap them and take the pillow from them... as for knives... sure they can be lethal but so too can neckties...so too can a lot of things... but a line has to be drawn and it has to be drawn with the most lethal form of weapon if THAT weapon is what is consistently being used to murder innocents en masse.
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lie beside me
i just need to say
I was laughing because of the very weird way the media has handled this. All the misreporting and rumors flying......
I see now what you mean.
I don't think I would have derived what you meant, though, without the explanation, which is why I asked....
I didn't think you were laughing at the recent incident or anything like that.
thank you
I have never heard of so much wrong reporting on a media story.
I wish they would wait for more official words, I felt like I was in the middle of a twitter
fest and I don't twitter. Dizzy shit
Yeah, that is hard to stomach. As those stating this is not a gun issue at all.
I keep hearing "he could have used a knife, he could have used a pillow." Yeah he could have. I wish he did. But he didn't. If he had, some of those little lives may not have been lost. I just keep needing to step back from this one.
this is the biggest load of horseshit ive ever heard... and its such a lazy justification not to change gun laws. we all know that if a pillow was used those children and teachers would be alive today and we wouldnt be having this conversation. someone comes at you with a pillow you laugh, slap them and take the pillow from them... as for knives... sure they can be lethal but so too can neckties...so too can a lot of things... but a line has to be drawn and it has to be drawn with the most lethal form of weapon if THAT weapon is what is consistently being used to murder innocents en masse.
how about he could have used a bomb... that one work ladies?
cause yes mass destruction is coming our way.
Why aren't you addressing mental illness as much as all this banning guns ?
It is the reason he killed. The weapon was not the reason.
Wait I know, you don't want to own a gun, barely have to lock your doors :?
You have nothing to give up.
If my neighbor had not had a gun he and his family would be dead.
Gun control gun bans is not the answer. Criminals don't follow the law
and plenty of the law abiding will now become criminal
because their guns are here to stay.
i love how Americans get upset when they read stories of 14 year old girls getting stoned to death by the Taleban for looking at a boy.... rules they are willing to die to protect... yet when people from the civilised world, or as I like to call them, Europeans, suggest it might be an idea to update a piece of parchment paper written over 250 years ago they get all heat up about rights ... 250 years ago I could have owned a slave, was legally allowed to punch my wife in the face and one could fuck a pot-bellied pig up the arse on a Tuesday...
as the great philosopher Friedrich Nietzsche once said ... "get a grip for fuck's sake"
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oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
I keep hearing "he could have used a knife, he could have used a pillow." Yeah he could have. I wish he did. But he didn't. If he had, some of those little lives may not have been lost. I just keep needing to step back from this one.
this is the biggest load of horseshit ive ever heard... and its such a lazy justification not to change gun laws. we all know that if a pillow was used those children and teachers would be alive today and we wouldnt be having this conversation. someone comes at you with a pillow you laugh, slap them and take the pillow from them... as for knives... sure they can be lethal but so too can neckties...so too can a lot of things... but a line has to be drawn and it has to be drawn with the most lethal form of weapon if THAT weapon is what is consistently being used to murder innocents en masse.
how about he could have used a bomb... that one work ladies?
there was no need ... he had lots of legally owned guns.
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
how about he could have used a bomb... that one work ladies?
.
they selling freely bombs at stores at usa?
cos sure they selling guns and pillows..the first kills,the second no..
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
That's fine, Aerial. I'm not ranting and raving about anything. I just want to find solutions and stop the killing.
I'm still trying to figure out what "Fare is fare" means?
apparently it means gun owners have a right to own a gun no matter what happens in America because of an outdated law that wasn't put in place to protect assault weapons being fired at school children.
What it means is that their "god given" right to own a gun is more important than trying to save more lives. No other way to put it. Pretty disgusting people think that way.
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how about he could have used a bomb... that one work ladies?
.
they selling freely bombs at stores at usa?
cos sure they selling guns and pillows..the first kills,the second no..
Could have used a highly trained bear... no wait... cougar. Does that one work, hmmm?
Completely juvenile argument- again. Don't engage. The gun control side, with its incredibly weak supporting points and bad spelling has lost this debate badly. Really badly.
this is the biggest load of horseshit ive ever heard... and its such a lazy justification not to change gun laws. we all know that if a pillow was used those children and teachers would be alive today and we wouldnt be having this conversation. someone comes at you with a pillow you laugh, slap them and take the pillow from them... as for knives... sure they can be lethal but so too can neckties...so too can a lot of things... but a line has to be drawn and it has to be drawn with the most lethal form of weapon if THAT weapon is what is consistently being used to murder innocents en masse.
how about he could have used a bomb... that one work ladies?
cause yes mass destruction is coming our way.
Why aren't you addressing mental illness as much as all this banning guns ?
It is the reason he killed. The weapon was not the reason.
Wait I know, you don't want to own a gun, barely have to lock your doors :?
You have nothing to give up.
If my neighbor had not had a gun he and his family would be dead.
Gun control gun bans is not the answer. Criminals don't follow the law
and plenty of the law abiding will now become criminal
because their guns are here to stay.
Yes...he could have used a bomb. But he didn't.
I always think we should focus on mental health, whether or not there is violence of this nature. I've talk at length about that in a few threads now. There is a lot of misinformation about the nature of the mental health diagnoses the shooter is reported to have had, as well as what recourse we have with different diagnoses.
"I need your strength for me to be strong...I need your love to feel loved"
To those that say the solution is more guns, let me first say YOU are the reason why all people in posession of semi-automatic weapons needs a mental capacity test. At the very least. I think responsible people should be allowed to own guns for hunting and home protection. But semi-automatic rifles? The only real difference between what that kid used to kill the other kids and what our soldiers carry is a flip of the swith to 3-round burst or full auto. That is the problem. But with the weapon he used, which was bought legally in this country, he can fire off rounds as fast as he could pull the trigger. I was in the Army. We were taught to fire in sem-auto mode for more accuracy. That's why the M-16's were changed from full auto to 3-round burst, to improve accuracy. Someone with proper training can wipe out a large room of people in short order, as we've all seen. Civilians should NOT have access to assault weapons. It's that simple. Someone please give me a valid reason why they should.
how about he could have used a bomb... that one work ladies?
.
they selling freely bombs at stores at usa?
cos sure they selling guns and pillows..the first kills,the second no..
Could have used a highly trained bear... no wait... cougar. Does that one work, hmmm?
Completely juvenile argument- again. Don't engage. The gun control side, with its incredibly weak supporting points and bad spelling has lost this debate badly. Really badly.
Yes don't engage in debate ... good advice seems to work well for many
it seems to be more of a rant then agree, rant then agree, rant than agree. Solutions that will really go to the crux of this violence
is where our direction should be now ... there's some common sense.
We all know they are freely selling ingredients to make bombs.
As we have seen with other killers.
But of course the point missed with the antigunners, it's not the gun it's the person.
A person way will find a way to carnage. To hurt a society that has hurt them.
It's so much harder to address the real problem. Takes compassion and empathy, understanding
of the other victim here... the mentally ill person pulling the trigger.
We can see that is not some people's strong suit, to try to understand where
these killers minds were and totally forget forgiveness, even in the case
of someone being mentally ill. :?
But for real change, ironic huh? it will take that. It will take each home
being involved enough to help get help for those who need it.
And help must be available for all.
Someone with proper training can wipe out a large room of people in short order, as we've all seen.
Like someone who, in his 20 years, grew up playing hours upon hours, months upon months,
years upon years of military type assault 'play'. Without the luxury of close human bonding.
Learning to fire an assault weapon in front of the TV, the computer.
Learning victims are just a number. The higher the better. Did he win?
No. In his life he did not win.
Who takes responsibility for a growing mind with illness that is forgotten?
His mother? His father? His clergy? His friends? Friends parents?
Isn't it all of us? People knew and no one wanted to get involved.
Just don't look at the not right boy.
Don't look maybe he will go away. Oh boy did this boy go away.
Someone with proper training can wipe out a large room of people in short order, as we've all seen.
Like someone who, in his 20 years, grew up playing hours upon hours, months upon months,
years upon years of military type assault 'play'. Without the luxury of close human bonding.
Learning to fire an assault weapon in front of the TV, the computer.
Learning victims are just a number. The higher the better. Did he win?
No. In his life he did not win.
Who takes responsibility for a growing mind with illness that is forgotten?
His mother? His father? His clergy? His friends? Friends parents?
Isn't it all of us? People knew and no one wanted to get involved.
Just don't look at the not right boy.
Don't look maybe he will go away. Oh boy did this boy go away.
Your mental illness argument is weak and getting old. Plenty of undiagnosed mentally ill out there but few of them choose to shoot up a schoolroom full of children.
Like someone who, in his 20 years, grew up playing hours upon hours, months upon months,
years upon years of military type assault 'play'.
All this is pure speculation - remember... inaccurate news reports? Sensationalising? Hey.. he was a 'goth' into strange practices too.. let's not forget that.
To those that say the solution is more guns, let me first say YOU are the reason why all people in posession of semi-automatic weapons needs a mental capacity test. At the very least. I think responsible people should be allowed to own guns for hunting and home protection. But semi-automatic rifles? The only real difference between what that kid used to kill the other kids and what our soldiers carry is a flip of the swith to 3-round burst or full auto. That is the problem. But with the weapon he used, which was bought legally in this country, he can fire off rounds as fast as he could pull the trigger. I was in the Army. We were taught to fire in sem-auto mode for more accuracy. That's why the M-16's were changed from full auto to 3-round burst, to improve accuracy. Someone with proper training can wipe out a large room of people in short order, as we've all seen. Civilians should NOT have access to assault weapons. It's that simple. Someone please give me a valid reason why they should.
Civilian assualt rifles don't have the fire select switches you refer to. Further, assualt rifles weren't used in this horrific event, unless reports have changed since I last checked (lots of false initial reports in this story). Finally, if burst and single-fire is more accurate (which, of course, it is), what's the harm in having full auto available? Won't the crazies just miss more?
I don't actually think full auto weapons should be available to civilians, fwiw; just wondering about the inconsistency in the "here's how we do it in the army" argument.
Like someone who, in his 20 years, grew up playing hours upon hours, months upon months,
years upon years of military type assault 'play'. Without the luxury of close human bonding.
Learning to fire an assault weapon in front of the TV, the computer.
Learning victims are just a number. The higher the better. Did he win?
No. In his life he did not win.
Who takes responsibility for a growing mind with illness that is forgotten?
His mother? His father? His clergy? His friends? Friends parents?
Isn't it all of us? People knew and no one wanted to get involved.
Just don't look at the not right boy.
Don't look maybe he will go away. Oh boy did this boy go away.
Your mental illness argument is weak and getting old. Plenty of undiagnosed mentally ill out there but few of them choose to shoot up a schoolroom full of children.
Wow expected much more from you.
Each one who committed the crime was, each shooter... mentally ill.
This phenomenon some want to close their eyes to. Find the easy solution to remove guns. This will not remove these killers. Guns because they are illegal will not
keep them from the wrong hands. We have to keep the wrong hands from doing wrong.
Using your logic there are many more guns out there that will never be used to do harm
as well.
Like someone who, in his 20 years, grew up playing hours upon hours, months upon months,
years upon years of military type assault 'play'.
All this is pure speculation - remember... inaccurate news reports? Sensationalising? Hey.. he was a 'goth' into strange practices too.. let's not forget that.
I don't draw conclusions or judgement on 'Goth'... do you :?
His brother who grew up with him, his father also have said he was obsessed with games.
How about you address this as though it were fact ...
and really approach the life he was living.
Like someone who, in his 20 years, grew up playing hours upon hours, months upon months,
years upon years of military type assault 'play'.
All this is pure speculation - remember... inaccurate news reports? Sensationalising? Hey.. he was a 'goth' into strange practices too.. let's not forget that.
Yes I was also wondering if there were any links to back up these claims because I hadn't heard them.
Mental illness is an issue the world over, yet many countries don't experience this type of violence as regularly as we do in the US. Some countries do a much better job of treating mental health and providing access to care. Many mental health diagnoses are chronic in nature, require ongoing treatment. We're not going to find a cure in the near future. Never mind that many diagnoses, such as Asperger's, have no connection to preplanned violence of this nature. Yes - definitely improve access to care, put more money into researching effective treatment options; but if this is the "easy" way to rid ourselves of violence...well I think that is really showing a lack of understanding for a very complicated issue.
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All this is pure speculation - remember... inaccurate news reports? Sensationalising? Hey.. he was a 'goth' into strange practices too.. let's not forget that.
I don't draw conclusions or judgement on 'Goth'... do you :?
His brother who grew up with him, his father also have said he was obsessed with games.
How about you address this as though it were fact ...
and really approach the life he was living.
'Goth' is a very silly word. People and the media use it to categorise. It means nothing. The media sure liked to use it for this killer though (amongst other speculative descriptions)
Why would I want to address speculation as fact? What an asinine suggestion.
Never mind that many diagnoses, such as Asperger's, have no connection to preplanned violence of this nature.
Exactly CBG. But as soon as there is a tragic event like this, the bandwagon of 'mental illness' is jumped on - dumping all mental/cognitive issues in one big pile of shit. Easier to explain. Then one can say it's not a certain other issue.
Like someone who, in his 20 years, grew up playing hours upon hours, months upon months,
years upon years of military type assault 'play'. Without the luxury of close human bonding.
Learning to fire an assault weapon in front of the TV, the computer.
Learning victims are just a number. The higher the better. Did he win?
No. In his life he did not win.
Who takes responsibility for a growing mind with illness that is forgotten?
His mother? His father? His clergy? His friends? Friends parents?
Isn't it all of us? People knew and no one wanted to get involved.
Just don't look at the not right boy.
Don't look maybe he will go away. Oh boy did this boy go away.
Your mental illness argument is weak and getting old. Plenty of undiagnosed mentally ill out there but few of them choose to shoot up a schoolroom full of children.
Wow expected much more from you.
Each one who committed the crime was, each shooter... mentally ill.
This phenomenon some want to close their eyes to. Find the easy solution to remove guns. This will not remove these killers. Guns because they are illegal will not
keep them from the wrong hands. We have to keep the wrong hands from doing wrong.
Using your logic there are many more guns out there that will never be used to do harm
as well.
you think mental health is the biggest issue here? In other countries mentally ill people are just are common... are they shooting up malls, theatres and schools? no
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Your mental illness argument is weak and getting old. Plenty of undiagnosed mentally ill out there but few of them choose to shoot up a schoolroom full of children.
Wow expected much more from you.
Each one who committed the crime was, each shooter... mentally ill.
This phenomenon some want to close their eyes to. Find the easy solution to remove guns. This will not remove these killers. Guns because they are illegal will not
keep them from the wrong hands. We have to keep the wrong hands from doing wrong.
Using your logic there are many more guns out there that will never be used to do harm
as well.
you think mental health is the biggest issue here? In other countries mentally ill people are just are common... are they shooting up malls, theatres and schools? no
after the Aurora shooting I had posted numerous articles that found the greatest link to this type of violence was being young and male; that had a far greater link than being mentally ill. While I always think mental health care is important and should receive much more focus than it does, I am sickened by the stigma of mental illness that is reinforced in these threads. Mental illness may be one factor in some of these shootings, but a personality disorder, such as this shooter is reported to have had, is much more about how people are socialized, particularly young males. This issue is far bigger than access to mental health care.
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Exactly, now is the perfect time to talk about it.
"I need your strength for me to be strong...I need your love to feel loved"
Yeah, that is hard to stomach. As those stating this is not a gun issue at all.
"I need your strength for me to be strong...I need your love to feel loved"
only 75 dead this year so far...
I see now what you mean.
I don't think I would have derived what you meant, though, without the explanation, which is why I asked....
I didn't think you were laughing at the recent incident or anything like that.
"not in my ass and u can put it wherever you want"
aka,those idiots dont get what going on,will get it,only if the victims was their kids
now??other people suffering,so they say any fuckin stupid theory they want...
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
this is the biggest load of horseshit ive ever heard... and its such a lazy justification not to change gun laws. we all know that if a pillow was used those children and teachers would be alive today and we wouldnt be having this conversation. someone comes at you with a pillow you laugh, slap them and take the pillow from them... as for knives... sure they can be lethal but so too can neckties...so too can a lot of things... but a line has to be drawn and it has to be drawn with the most lethal form of weapon if THAT weapon is what is consistently being used to murder innocents en masse.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
I have never heard of so much wrong reporting on a media story.
I wish they would wait for more official words, I felt like I was in the middle of a twitter
fest and I don't twitter. Dizzy shit
cause yes mass destruction is coming our way.
Why aren't you addressing mental illness as much as all this banning guns ?
It is the reason he killed. The weapon was not the reason.
Wait I know, you don't want to own a gun, barely have to lock your doors :?
You have nothing to give up.
If my neighbor had not had a gun he and his family would be dead.
Gun control gun bans is not the answer. Criminals don't follow the law
and plenty of the law abiding will now become criminal
because their guns are here to stay.
as the great philosopher Friedrich Nietzsche once said ... "get a grip for fuck's sake"
there was no need ... he had lots of legally owned guns.
cos sure they selling guns and pillows..the first kills,the second no..
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
What it means is that their "god given" right to own a gun is more important than trying to save more lives. No other way to put it. Pretty disgusting people think that way.
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Could have used a highly trained bear... no wait... cougar. Does that one work, hmmm?
Completely juvenile argument- again. Don't engage. The gun control side, with its incredibly weak supporting points and bad spelling has lost this debate badly. Really badly.
I always think we should focus on mental health, whether or not there is violence of this nature. I've talk at length about that in a few threads now. There is a lot of misinformation about the nature of the mental health diagnoses the shooter is reported to have had, as well as what recourse we have with different diagnoses.
"I need your strength for me to be strong...I need your love to feel loved"
it seems to be more of a rant then agree, rant then agree, rant than agree.
Solutions that will really go to the crux of this violence
is where our direction should be now ... there's some common sense.
We all know they are freely selling ingredients to make bombs.
As we have seen with other killers.
But of course the point missed with the antigunners, it's not the gun it's the person.
A person way will find a way to carnage. To hurt a society that has hurt them.
It's so much harder to address the real problem. Takes compassion and empathy, understanding
of the other victim here... the mentally ill person pulling the trigger.
We can see that is not some people's strong suit, to try to understand where
these killers minds were and totally forget forgiveness, even in the case
of someone being mentally ill. :?
But for real change, ironic huh? it will take that. It will take each home
being involved enough to help get help for those who need it.
And help must be available for all.
years upon years of military type assault 'play'. Without the luxury of close human bonding.
Learning to fire an assault weapon in front of the TV, the computer.
Learning victims are just a number. The higher the better. Did he win?
No. In his life he did not win.
Who takes responsibility for a growing mind with illness that is forgotten?
His mother? His father? His clergy? His friends? Friends parents?
Isn't it all of us? People knew and no one wanted to get involved.
Just don't look at the not right boy.
Don't look maybe he will go away. Oh boy did this boy go away.
All this is pure speculation - remember... inaccurate news reports? Sensationalising? Hey.. he was a 'goth' into strange practices too.. let's not forget that.
I don't actually think full auto weapons should be available to civilians, fwiw; just wondering about the inconsistency in the "here's how we do it in the army" argument.
Each one who committed the crime was, each shooter... mentally ill.
This phenomenon some want to close their eyes to. Find the easy solution to remove guns.
This will not remove these killers. Guns because they are illegal will not
keep them from the wrong hands. We have to keep the wrong hands from doing wrong.
Using your logic there are many more guns out there that will never be used to do harm
as well.
His brother who grew up with him, his father also have said he was obsessed with games.
How about you address this as though it were fact ...
and really approach the life he was living.
Mental illness is an issue the world over, yet many countries don't experience this type of violence as regularly as we do in the US. Some countries do a much better job of treating mental health and providing access to care. Many mental health diagnoses are chronic in nature, require ongoing treatment. We're not going to find a cure in the near future. Never mind that many diagnoses, such as Asperger's, have no connection to preplanned violence of this nature. Yes - definitely improve access to care, put more money into researching effective treatment options; but if this is the "easy" way to rid ourselves of violence...well I think that is really showing a lack of understanding for a very complicated issue.
"I need your strength for me to be strong...I need your love to feel loved"
'Goth' is a very silly word. People and the media use it to categorise. It means nothing. The media sure liked to use it for this killer though (amongst other speculative descriptions)
Why would I want to address speculation as fact? What an asinine suggestion.
Exactly CBG. But as soon as there is a tragic event like this, the bandwagon of 'mental illness' is jumped on - dumping all mental/cognitive issues in one big pile of shit. Easier to explain. Then one can say it's not a certain other issue.
you think mental health is the biggest issue here? In other countries mentally ill people are just are common... are they shooting up malls, theatres and schools? no
Sha la la la i'm in love with a jersey girl
I love you forever and forever
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"I need your strength for me to be strong...I need your love to feel loved"