Just As Bad

DS1119

Cosmo wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

I literally learned about this 3 minutes before I posted it here. Also, someone here once told me I couldn't know or question someone's intentions. I believe it came up in a conversation about saving lives vs. having an agenda.

Again, this story s just horrible. Lucky all of the people were able to escape this mad man with their lives. Hopefully they or the people who saw this won't be scarred for too long.

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Wait a second... you heard about this news story... and your inital reaction was to snag an internet report about a knife attack... in CHINA... to respond to this horrific act?

Sick fucks are everywhere. I certainly didn't make it up.

PJ_Soul

DS1119 wrote:

Sick fucks are everywhere.

This is true.

Cosmo

DS1119 wrote:

Cosmo wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

I literally learned about this 3 minutes before I posted it here. Also, someone here once told me I couldn't know or question someone's intentions. I believe it came up in a conversation about saving lives vs. having an agenda.

Again, this story s just horrible. Lucky all of the people were able to escape this mad man with their lives. Hopefully they or the people who saw this won't be scarred for too long.

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Wait a second... you heard about this news story... and your inital reaction was to snag an internet report about a knife attack... in CHINA... to respond to this horrific act?

Sick fucks are everywhere. I certainly didn't make it up.

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Oh, i agree... and i'm pretty sure you would not get an arguement from anyone here.
it's just that... to me... I thought it was kind of odd. Mostly because my initial reaction was NOT to post something to lessen the tragedy by saying these things happen elsewhere... mine was purely a reaction of horror, saddness, pain, disgust and anger all at the same time. My first thoughts were of the terror those kids must have gone through.
But, that's jut me, I suppose.

DS1119

Cosmo wrote:

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Oh, i agree... and i'm pretty sure you would not get an arguement from anyone here.
it's just that... to me... I thought it was kind of odd. Mostly because my initial reaction was NOT to post something to lessen the tragedy by saying these things happen elsewhere... mine was purely a reaction of horror, saddness, pain, disgust and anger all at the same time. My first thoughts were of the terror those kids must have gone through.
But, that's jut me, I suppose.

And I feel the same sadness, shock, and horror as well. Over both incidents equally. Unfortunately in this country we don't learn of these other incidents unless we seek them out. I learned about it and wanted to comment about it.

PJ_Soul

Cosmo wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

Cosmo wrote:

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Wait a second... you heard about this news story... and your inital reaction was to snag an internet report about a knife attack... in CHINA... to respond to this horrific act?

Sick fucks are everywhere. I certainly didn't make it up.

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Oh, i agree... and i'm pretty sure you would not get an arguement from anyone here.
it's just that... to me... I thought it was kind of odd. Mostly because my initial reaction was NOT to post something to lessen the tragedy by saying these things happen elsewhere... mine was purely a reaction of horror, saddness, pain, disgust and anger all at the same time. My first thoughts were of the terror those kids must have gone through.
But, that's jut me, I suppose.

It's not just you Cosmo. It's just that these were DS's thoughts, so he ought to be able to post them if he feels like making a point. What I actually take issue with is that he called 20 kids getting hurt "just as bad" as 27 people, mostly kids, getting KILLED. IMO, that is way way WAY worse!!!!! 20 parents visiting their kids in the hospital vs 20 whose kids are dead. :think: How is the former just as bad, exactly?

Hugh Freaking Dillon

DS1119 wrote:

When would be the right time to talk about the 20 people stabbed in China then? This happened today.

you COULD have talked about it today. not the issue.

you chose to label the thread "just as bad". I'll ask you again, since you ignored it:

how can you possible say that a bunch of people attacked and LIVED is JUST AS BAD as a bunch of people attacked and killed????

PJ_Soul

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

When would be the right time to talk about the 20 people stabbed in China then? This happened today.

you COULD have talked about it today. not the issue.

you chose to label the thread "just as bad". I'll ask you again, since you ignored it:

how can you possible say that a bunch of people attacked and LIVED is JUST AS BAD as a bunch of people attacked and killed????

Exactly... I just think that maybe DS didn't think through the thread title very carefully. Of course he must realize that a bunch of people.surviving isn't as bad as a bunch of peope dying. I hope so anyway... am I right DS?

DS1119

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

When would be the right time to talk about the 20 people stabbed in China then? This happened today.

you COULD have talked about it today. not the issue.

you chose to label the thread "just as bad". I'll ask you again, since you ignored it:

how can you possible say that a bunch of people attacked and LIVED is JUST AS BAD as a bunch of people attacked and killed????

It's just as bad in that the intent of both of these sick fucks was the same. That's one of the issues in society that I never quite understood. Similar to someone who is convicted of attempted murder versus someone who is convicted of murder. Why does the person who tried to kill someone but was unsuccessful get a lighter sentence than someone who actually did murder someone. Just doesn't make sense to me. This is the reason why I don't really think either of these tragedies are less or more tragic than the other one.

whygohome

This could be the most ridiculous thread on the AMT. Well done!!!

vant0037

DS1119 wrote:

Cosmo wrote:

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Oh, i agree... and i'm pretty sure you would not get an arguement from anyone here.
it's just that... to me... I thought it was kind of odd. Mostly because my initial reaction was NOT to post something to lessen the tragedy by saying these things happen elsewhere... mine was purely a reaction of horror, saddness, pain, disgust and anger all at the same time. My first thoughts were of the terror those kids must have gone through.
But, that's jut me, I suppose.

And I feel the same sadness, shock, and horror as well. Over both incidents equally. Unfortunately in this country we don't learn of these other incidents unless we seek them out. I learned about it and wanted to comment about it.

I call bullshit. You've been back and forth on a thread about gun control that you started, and then today, you post a story about a mass-knifing in China with the thread line "Just As Bad," and now you pretend you were simply posting the story, innocently, without political intentions? Sorry man, you make me laugh in other posts all the time, but I call bullshit.

If that is all you were doing, why didn't you title it differently?

Once more, please just stop this...at least for a few days.

Cosmo

DS1119 wrote:

And I feel the same sadness, shock, and horror as well. Over both incidents equally. Unfortunately in this country we don't learn of these other incidents unless we seek them out. I learned about it and wanted to comment about it.

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Fair enough.
I just took it as part of who you are... rather, who you represent yourself as on this forum, based upon past messages, specifically the long, drawn out thread regarding the outlawing of guns. We know your stand on guns in America, if what you are saying is truely how you feel.
That is why people are probably having a reaction toy your, '20 children stabbed in China is just as bad as 20 children shot in America'. Because most of us don't live in China and aren't Chinese... we are Americans. What happens in America hits us harder, because we are Americans and can relate closer to Americans, than Chinese.
Well, to be truthful, i can only speak for myself and no one else here. When things hit home... it is always tougher on me.

DS1119

vant0037 wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

Cosmo wrote:

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Oh, i agree... and i'm pretty sure you would not get an arguement from anyone here.
it's just that... to me... I thought it was kind of odd. Mostly because my initial reaction was NOT to post something to lessen the tragedy by saying these things happen elsewhere... mine was purely a reaction of horror, saddness, pain, disgust and anger all at the same time. My first thoughts were of the terror those kids must have gone through.
But, that's jut me, I suppose.

And I feel the same sadness, shock, and horror as well. Over both incidents equally. Unfortunately in this country we don't learn of these other incidents unless we seek them out. I learned about it and wanted to comment about it.

I call bullshit. You've been back and forth on a thread about gun control that you started, and then today, you post a story about a mass-knifing in China with the thread line "Just As Bad," and now you pretend you were simply posting the story, innocently, without political intentions? Sorry man, you make me laugh in other posts all the time, but I call bullshit.

If that is all you were doing, why didn't you title it differently?

Once more, please just stop this...at least for a few days.

I titled it the way I did because I view it as just as bad as the tragedy in CT today. Would you prefer I titled "Sick fuck attempts to murder of 20 in china"?

vant0037

DS1119 wrote:

I titled it the way I did because I view it as just as bad as the tragedy in CT today. Would you prefer I titled "Sick fuck attempts to murder of 20 in china"?

Are you kidding? That would have been so, so, so much better. Instead, you came off as trying to politicize the murder of children and innocent people.

Come on, you know better.

DS1119

vant0037 wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

I titled it the way I did because I view it as just as bad as the tragedy in CT today. Would you prefer I titled "Sick fuck attempts to murder of 20 in china"?

Are you kidding? That would have been so, so, so much better. Instead, you came off as trying to politicize the murder of children and innocent people.

Come on, you know better.

Again that's what you are thinking. Not what I'm thinking.

vant0037

DS1119 wrote:

vant0037 wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

I titled it the way I did because I view it as just as bad as the tragedy in CT today. Would you prefer I titled "Sick fuck attempts to murder of 20 in china"?

Are you kidding? That would have been so, so, so much better. Instead, you came off as trying to politicize the murder of children and innocent people.

Come on, you know better.

Again that's what you are thinking. Not what I'm thinking.

So that was a casual gun reference in your original post? How convenient.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

Admitting when one is wrong is considered a strength and exudes confidence.

PJ_Soul

DS1119 wrote:

vant0037 wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

And I feel the same sadness, shock, and horror as well. Over both incidents equally. Unfortunately in this country we don't learn of these other incidents unless we seek them out. I learned about it and wanted to comment about it.

I call bullshit. You've been back and forth on a thread about gun control that you started, and then today, you post a story about a mass-knifing in China with the thread line "Just As Bad," and now you pretend you were simply posting the story, innocently, without political intentions? Sorry man, you make me laugh in other posts all the time, but I call bullshit.

If that is all you were doing, why didn't you title it differently?

Once more, please just stop this...at least for a few days.

I titled it the way I did because I view it as just as bad as the tragedy in CT today. Would you prefer I titled "Sick fuck attempts to murder of 20 in china"?

Yeah, that would have actually been a way better title. Less offensive, more accurate.

Cosmo

PJ_Soul wrote:

Yeah, that would have actually been a way better title. Less offensive, more accurate.

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Actually... I would not have posted anything about the thing in China because i would not have found the story about China. within 3 minutes of hearing about the tragedy in Newtown, I would have focused everything on that story and not sought out a parallel story to compare the Newtown story with any other world event. As an American, i feel that Newtown appears in a vaccuum... at this moment in time. Give me time to grieve for the lost before countering a comparison on which incident was worse.
We will have time in the future to compare the shooting in Conneticut with the attack in China and cars and knives and baseball bats... but, tonight... at least, for this American.... it's all about the children of Newtown.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

DS1119 wrote:

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

When would be the right time to talk about the 20 people stabbed in China then? This happened today.

you COULD have talked about it today. not the issue.

you chose to label the thread "just as bad". I'll ask you again, since you ignored it:

how can you possible say that a bunch of people attacked and LIVED is JUST AS BAD as a bunch of people attacked and killed????

It's just as bad in that the intent of both of these sick fucks was the same. That's one of the issues in society that I never quite understood. Similar to someone who is convicted of attempted murder versus someone who is convicted of murder. Why does the person who tried to kill someone but was unsuccessful get a lighter sentence than someone who actually did murder someone. Just doesn't make sense to me. This is the reason why I don't really think either of these tragedies are less or more tragic than the other one.

you HAVE to be kidding me. dead children vs not dead children is the same to you. what the holy fucking hell.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

DS1119 wrote:

Similar to someone who is convicted of attempted murder versus someone who is convicted of murder. Why does the person who tried to kill someone but was unsuccessful get a lighter sentence than someone who actually did murder someone. Just doesn't make sense to me. This is the reason why I don't really think either of these tragedies are less or more tragic than the other one.

you know, this very argument was made by Sideshow Bob on an episode of the Simpsons.

"I mean, come ON, jail for attempted murder? I've never seen anyone get a nobel prize for attempted chemistry!".

this thread comes off just as idiotic.