Like I thought previously, they say he was a gamer...
I wondered about the accuracy of the shots ... only one survivor :?
two handguns used no assault weapon,left in car...
maybe an assault weapon would have jammed as in the last shootings
and allowed some time to stop him.
Gun glory is what needs to change.
Let children be children, no violent games, no violent movies, no gun worship only respect.
And free available mental illness screening and care.
People wonder why...
but we all made this child with accepting our culture.
Guns are necessary because the government is just waiting for for you to put aside your arms so they can become tyrannical.
Guns are fun.
People try to get you so you better be ready with a gun.
For clarification, are these the three biggest reasons why there should not be legislation restricting ownership of assault rifles and handguns as well as demanding thorough background checks prior to receiving licenses?
I'm bumping this back to the top because I'm chuckling at it. These weren't disputed by anyone so it's safe to say that they actually are the major arguments for leaving a kindergarten class at the hands of a homicidal maniac armed for the task?
Solid. Really solid reasons to ignore the problem.
Limited access. No assault rifles or handguns. No ammunition sales for those types of weapons. Thorough licensing process. With the hemorrhaging under control, shift focus to societal problems.
Something such as this would likely save your next group of randoms.
Guns are necessary because the government is just waiting for for you to put aside your arms so they can become tyrannical.
Guns are fun.
People try to get you so you better be ready with a gun.
For clarification, are these the three biggest reasons why there should not be legislation restricting ownership of assault rifles and handguns as well as demanding thorough background checks prior to receiving licenses?
You're spot on. That's the Right-wing logic for ya!!!
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When you hear about these mass shootings that happen all the time, just remember...
THIS IS YOUR FAULT!
Machine guns were banned, and the NRA's cronies allowed the law to expire. Now look at what's happening, all the fucking time.
I didn't read every reply but machine guns are still banned. You are confused and are arguing with emotion instead of logic. It's ok, my GF does it quite often too.
Maybe my verbiage was mixed up but this is common sense, not emotion. Nobody needs assault weapons to hunt or defend their home.
Your remark strikes me as sexist btw.
Sorry, my verbiage was mixed up.
What is the definition of an "assault weapon"?
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Like I thought previously, they say he was a gamer...
I wondered about the accuracy of the shots ... only one survivor :?
two handguns used no assault weapon,left in car...
maybe an assault weapon would have jammed as in the last shootings
and allowed some time to stop him.
Gun glory is what needs to change.
Let children be children, no violent games, no violent movies, no gun worship only respect.
And free available mental illness screening and care.
People wonder why...
but we all made this child with accepting our culture.
Again, what is the definition of an assault weapon?
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Guns are necessary because the government is just waiting for for you to put aside your arms so they can become tyrannical.
Guns are fun.
People try to get you so you better be ready with a gun.
For clarification, are these the three biggest reasons why there should not be legislation restricting ownership of assault rifles and handguns as well as demanding thorough background checks prior to receiving licenses?
I'm bumping this back to the top because I'm chuckling at it. These weren't disputed by anyone so it's safe to say that they actually are the major arguments for leaving a kindergarten class at the hands of a homicidal maniac armed for the task?
Solid. Really solid reasons to ignore the problem.
Limited access. No assault rifles or handguns. No ammunition sales for those types of weapons. Thorough licensing process. With the hemorrhaging under control, shift focus to societal problems.
Something such as this would likely save your next group of randoms.
Guns are necessary because the government is just waiting for for you to put aside your arms so they can become tyrannical.
Guns are fun.
People try to get you so you better be ready with a gun.
For clarification, are these the three biggest reasons why there should not be legislation restricting ownership of assault rifles and handguns as well as demanding thorough background checks prior to receiving licenses?
I'm bumping this back to the top because I'm chuckling at it. These weren't disputed by anyone so it's safe to say that they actually are the major arguments for leaving a kindergarten class at the hands of a homicidal maniac armed for the task?
Solid. Really solid reasons to ignore the problem.
Limited access. No assault rifles or handguns. No ammunition sales for those types of weapons. Thorough licensing process. With the hemorrhaging under control, shift focus to societal problems.
Something such as this would likely save your next group of randoms.
Lee Harvey Oswald fired off THREE shots in FIVE POINT SIX SECONDS with a manual loading BOLT ACTION rifle -- one that had a notoriously difficult bolt action to both open and close ... PLUS he had to AIM AT AROUND TWO HUNDRED FEET.
So. If you believe your government with THIS story, then you should probably NOT believe them when they say banning semi-automatics and hand guns would make ANYone a whole lot safer.
According to THEIR OWN "FACTS", any crazed, lone gunman could wipe out APPROXIMATE FIFTY PEOPLE IN FIVE MINUTES. POINT BLANK, OR TWO HUNDRED YARDS. matters not.
All they would need is a 1940's era piece of shit rifle, and a couple of pockets full of ammunition.
No high capacity clips. hell, no clips, PERIOD. No semi automatic. No assault weapons. No handguns. Just an old shitty gun, and a really fucked up brain.
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If I opened it now would you not understand?
The fact is banning banning guns or making anything illegal, only keeps honest people honest. Criminals will find a way.
thats 100% correct therefore screw those drinking and driving law. People who are going to drink and drive are going to do it anyway so ... hell screw all laws cause the bad guys are going to do it anyway.
Like I thought previously, they say he was a gamer...
I wondered about the accuracy of the shots ... only one survivor :?
two handguns used no assault weapon,left in car...
maybe an assault weapon would have jammed as in the last shootings
and allowed some time to stop him.
Gun glory is what needs to change.
Let children be children, no violent games, no violent movies, no gun worship only respect.
And free available mental illness screening and care.
People wonder why...
but we all made this child with accepting our culture.
no offense but America is the the only country that has violent games or violent movies so I don't know if you can put the blame on that.
Here is a question, right now you guys check to see if someone has had mental health issues in the past in order to get a gun. I have a friend who was transgendered and wanted to have surgery to become a man. do you know what he had to do to get that surgery? he had to take a psychological test before approved for the surgery. Why can't we do that with guns? why can we make it a rule that if you want a gun you must complete psychological test? sure that is not going to stop every shooting but it might stop some.
The fact is banning banning guns or making anything illegal, only keeps honest people honest. Criminals will find a way.
thats 100% correct therefore screw those drinking and driving law. People who are going to drink and drive are going to do it anyway so ... hell screw all laws cause the bad guys are going to do it anyway.
What gun laws do you want to make ?
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When you hear about these mass shootings that happen all the time, just remember...
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Machine guns were banned, and the NRA's cronies allowed the law to expire. Now look at what's happening, all the fucking time.
F'n a right!!!!!
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Medical examiner reporting almost all wounds caused by Bushmaster assault rifle, children had 3-11 shots...EACH
5 year olds
5 year olds
5 YEAR OLDS!!!! Gunned down with an assault rifle that has one purpose.
Lets ignore that fact though. Lets ignore that man murdered 5 year olds with a weapon made for war
Fucking 5 years olds. These kids barely know what a fucking gun is. And they get their heads blown off with something they didn't even know existed.
Someone said it is disrespectful to not discuss this. Do you know what a 5 year old shot 11 times with a .223 caliber looks like? 2 weeks before Christmas parents have to Id their kids body which is ripper to shreads by massive ammo.
Think for one second about what 11 machine gun rounds would do to a 50 pound body?
Think for one second about what 11 machine gun rounds would do to a 50 pound body?
What "machine gun" ?
Any rounds are devastating to the human body.
Even a 9mm.
And the smaller the body, the more bad it does.
So "machine gun rounds" or not, that doesn't even matter.
...let alone there was no machine gun involved in this.
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Medical examiner reporting almost all wounds caused by Bushmaster assault rifle, children had 3-11 shots...EACH
Kids, adults, or animals. Why does anyone need to own a weapon capable of doing such a thing? It's disgraceful that there's companies out their that make something like this and people who work their go home making money off of disgusting shit like this. How can those people go home and live with themselves knowing they make something that's caused this?
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So are we getting rid of ALL ammunition and ALL guns?
I just hear a lot of people bitching at those who don't want to panic-reflex toss the baby out with the bathwater.
I get that fucked up shit just happened.
I don't need a bunch of bleeding heart assholes screaming down my throat to explain that to me.
But all that is occuring is a bunch of one sided mud slinging by NRA-haters and gun-fearers.
Whats your fucking solution?
Or do you just want to scream at gun owners all fucking day?
(no you, generally)
If I was to smile and I held out my hand
If I opened it now would you not understand?
So are we getting rid of ALL ammunition and ALL guns?
I just hear a lot of people bitching at those who don't want to panic-reflex toss the baby out with the bathwater.
I get that fucked up shit just happened.
I don't need a bunch of bleeding heart assholes screaming down my throat to explain that to me.
But all that is occuring is a bunch of one sided mud slinging by NRA-haters and gun-fearers.
Whats your fucking solution?
Or do you just want to scream at gun owners all fucking day?
(no you, generally)
What solution do you have? Please don't say we need to be more spiritual....I'm looking for something a little more concrete and realistic.
So are we getting rid of ALL ammunition and ALL guns?
I just hear a lot of people bitching at those who don't want to panic-reflex toss the baby out with the bathwater.
I get that fucked up shit just happened.
I don't need a bunch of bleeding heart assholes screaming down my throat to explain that to me.
But all that is occuring is a bunch of one sided mud slinging by NRA-haters and gun-fearers.
Whats your fucking solution?
Or do you just want to scream at gun owners all fucking day?
(no you, generally)
Me? I just bought a Sig P229 two weeks ago. I'm alright with responsibly owning guns.
His comment was regarding what a "machine gun round" does to a body of that size. ...making it about larger, "scarier" looking guns. I don't see that gun as any more dangerous than another gun, in the hands of someone who wants to do harm.
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What solution do you have? Please don't say we need to be more spiritual....I'm looking for something a little more concrete and realistic.
Put all school children behind barbed wire, metal detectors, and have police officers at the front of every school in the country.
That should get you what you want, and be at least as effective as taking the guns out of the hands of every law abiding citizen in the country. :roll:
Again, unless you are proposing an OUTRIGHT ban on ALL guns (which still won't do shit, truly) ... someone can get off THREE ROUNDS IN SIX SECONDS with a fucking shitty bolt action rifle.
So thats 11 bullets per baby in just under 22 seconds. which means a REALLY dead class room full of children in under 7 minutes. Although, given your babble about bullets and bodies, i think you get that it won't take 11 of these to do in a poor little kid ... so we can probably cut that bullet count in half ... call it 5-6 per child ... call it 3.5 minutes to do in a class room with a shitty old bolt action rifle ... shit, if he is a diligent second amendment consipracy theorist militia extremist alex jones ron paul nutfuck ... he probably practices every day, and plays 1Pshooters all day to boot ... probably could get 2 or 3 in a shot if he got the angle right ...
so what then ...
are we going to ban the military from having guns too?
because inevitably someone in the military will go nuts and shoot someone.
or sell their ammo on the black market to someone who will.
or china will just illegally make and sell guns.
or ???
I mean give me a fucking break.
people want something.
they get it.
google "silk road" or "the armory".
prohibition is futile in a digital world.
OR.
as much as you seem to hate the notion.
We could begin to encourage people to get back intouch with themselves.
To be more holistic in our approach to education.
To start re-including ... in some sort of homogenized acceptable way .... the notion of "god" ... of unity ... of our oneness ... etc etc etc ... our schools here churn out schizophrenic factory-monkeys .... not well adjusted citizens. we should work on that. and our culture.
If I was to smile and I held out my hand
If I opened it now would you not understand?
What solution do you have? Please don't say we need to be more spiritual....I'm looking for something a little more concrete and realistic.
Put all school children behind barbed wire, metal detectors, and have police officers at the front of every school in the country.
That should get you what you want, and be at least as effective as taking the guns out of the hands of every law abiding citizen in the country. :roll:
Again, unless you are proposing an OUTRIGHT ban on ALL guns (which still won't do shit, truly) ... someone can get off THREE ROUNDS IN SIX SECONDS with a fucking shitty bolt action rifle.
So thats 11 bullets per baby in just under 22 seconds. which means a REALLY dead class room full of children in under 7 minutes. Although, given your babble about bullets and bodies, i think you get that it won't take 11 of these to do in a poor little kid ...
so what then ...
are we going to ban the military from having guns too?
because inevitably someone in the military will go nuts and shoot someone.
or sell their ammo on the black market to someone who will.
or china will just illegally make and sell guns.
or ???
I mean give me a fucking break.
people want something.
they get it.
google "silk road" or "the armory".
prohibition is futile in a digital world.
OR.
as much as you seem to hate the notion.
We could begin to encourage people to get back intouch with themselves.
To be more holistic in our approach to education.
To start re-including ... in some sort of homogenized acceptable way .... the notion of "god" ... of unity ... of our oneness ... etc etc etc ... our schools here churn out schizophrenic factory-monkeys .... not well adjusted citizens. we should work on that. and our culture.
I agree with you somewhat, the world can be a fucked up place. I disagree with you that there was some distant past where everyone was " in touch" with themselves. If you could point to this time in history I may be more inclined to believe you. We have always been killing each other. We will always kill each other, it's in our nature. As long as we have these crazy weapons we will have high body counts.
Ladies and gentlemen, the solution to these issues is an invisible man in the sky, not less supply on that so to speak black market but a man in the sky
Ladies and gentlemen, the solution to these issues is an invisible man in the sky, not less supply on that so to speak black market but a man in the sky
Perhaps, minus Gerald Ford ... you're in great company ... mr. knowitall.
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I wondered about the accuracy of the shots ... only one survivor :?
two handguns used no assault weapon,left in car...
maybe an assault weapon would have jammed as in the last shootings
and allowed some time to stop him.
Gun glory is what needs to change.
Let children be children, no violent games, no violent movies, no gun worship only respect.
And free available mental illness screening and care.
People wonder why...
but we all made this child with accepting our culture.
I'm bumping this back to the top because I'm chuckling at it. These weren't disputed by anyone so it's safe to say that they actually are the major arguments for leaving a kindergarten class at the hands of a homicidal maniac armed for the task?
Solid. Really solid reasons to ignore the problem.
Limited access. No assault rifles or handguns. No ammunition sales for those types of weapons. Thorough licensing process. With the hemorrhaging under control, shift focus to societal problems.
Something such as this would likely save your next group of randoms.
Sorry, my verbiage was mixed up.
What is the definition of an "assault weapon"?
Again, what is the definition of an assault weapon?
No, it wouldn't.
Oh. I stand corrected then. Carry on.
Lee Harvey Oswald fired off THREE shots in FIVE POINT SIX SECONDS with a manual loading BOLT ACTION rifle -- one that had a notoriously difficult bolt action to both open and close ... PLUS he had to AIM AT AROUND TWO HUNDRED FEET.
So. If you believe your government with THIS story, then you should probably NOT believe them when they say banning semi-automatics and hand guns would make ANYone a whole lot safer.
According to THEIR OWN "FACTS", any crazed, lone gunman could wipe out APPROXIMATE FIFTY PEOPLE IN FIVE MINUTES. POINT BLANK, OR TWO HUNDRED YARDS. matters not.
All they would need is a 1940's era piece of shit rifle, and a couple of pockets full of ammunition.
No high capacity clips. hell, no clips, PERIOD. No semi automatic. No assault weapons. No handguns. Just an old shitty gun, and a really fucked up brain.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
thats 100% correct therefore screw those drinking and driving law. People who are going to drink and drive are going to do it anyway so ... hell screw all laws cause the bad guys are going to do it anyway.
no offense but America is the the only country that has violent games or violent movies so I don't know if you can put the blame on that.
Here is a question, right now you guys check to see if someone has had mental health issues in the past in order to get a gun. I have a friend who was transgendered and wanted to have surgery to become a man. do you know what he had to do to get that surgery? he had to take a psychological test before approved for the surgery. Why can't we do that with guns? why can we make it a rule that if you want a gun you must complete psychological test? sure that is not going to stop every shooting but it might stop some.
What gun laws do you want to make ?
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5 year olds
5 year olds
5 YEAR OLDS!!!! Gunned down with an assault rifle that has one purpose.
Lets ignore that fact though. Lets ignore that man murdered 5 year olds with a weapon made for war
Fucking 5 years olds. These kids barely know what a fucking gun is. And they get their heads blown off with something they didn't even know existed.
Someone said it is disrespectful to not discuss this. Do you know what a 5 year old shot 11 times with a .223 caliber looks like? 2 weeks before Christmas parents have to Id their kids body which is ripper to shreads by massive ammo.
Think for one second about what 11 machine gun rounds would do to a 50 pound body?
What "machine gun" ?
If I opened it now would you not understand?
Assault rifle...save it...same fucking thing.
You didn't answer the rest if the questions
Any rounds are devastating to the human body.
Even a 9mm.
And the smaller the body, the more bad it does.
So "machine gun rounds" or not, that doesn't even matter.
...let alone there was no machine gun involved in this.
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Kids, adults, or animals. Why does anyone need to own a weapon capable of doing such a thing? It's disgraceful that there's companies out their that make something like this and people who work their go home making money off of disgusting shit like this. How can those people go home and live with themselves knowing they make something that's caused this?
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So are we getting rid of ALL ammunition and ALL guns?
I just hear a lot of people bitching at those who don't want to panic-reflex toss the baby out with the bathwater.
I get that fucked up shit just happened.
I don't need a bunch of bleeding heart assholes screaming down my throat to explain that to me.
But all that is occuring is a bunch of one sided mud slinging by NRA-haters and gun-fearers.
Whats your fucking solution?
Or do you just want to scream at gun owners all fucking day?
(no you, generally)
If I opened it now would you not understand?
what the fuck is your point?
basically you are just crying out loud about how sad a bunch of dead fucking bloody young bodies are.
Here's a fucking clue:
NO FUCKING SHIT.
WE FUCKING GET IT.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
Ha yeah, that is actually exactly what I am doing because that is exactly what happened
What solution do you have? Please don't say we need to be more spiritual....I'm looking for something a little more concrete and realistic.
Me? I just bought a Sig P229 two weeks ago. I'm alright with responsibly owning guns.
His comment was regarding what a "machine gun round" does to a body of that size. ...making it about larger, "scarier" looking guns. I don't see that gun as any more dangerous than another gun, in the hands of someone who wants to do harm.
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Put all school children behind barbed wire, metal detectors, and have police officers at the front of every school in the country.
That should get you what you want, and be at least as effective as taking the guns out of the hands of every law abiding citizen in the country. :roll:
Again, unless you are proposing an OUTRIGHT ban on ALL guns (which still won't do shit, truly) ... someone can get off THREE ROUNDS IN SIX SECONDS with a fucking shitty bolt action rifle.
So thats 11 bullets per baby in just under 22 seconds. which means a REALLY dead class room full of children in under 7 minutes. Although, given your babble about bullets and bodies, i think you get that it won't take 11 of these
so what then ...
are we going to ban the military from having guns too?
because inevitably someone in the military will go nuts and shoot someone.
or sell their ammo on the black market to someone who will.
or china will just illegally make and sell guns.
or ???
I mean give me a fucking break.
people want something.
they get it.
google "silk road" or "the armory".
prohibition is futile in a digital world.
OR.
as much as you seem to hate the notion.
We could begin to encourage people to get back intouch with themselves.
To be more holistic in our approach to education.
To start re-including ... in some sort of homogenized acceptable way .... the notion of "god" ... of unity ... of our oneness ... etc etc etc ... our schools here churn out schizophrenic factory-monkeys .... not well adjusted citizens. we should work on that. and our culture.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
I agree with you somewhat, the world can be a fucked up place. I disagree with you that there was some distant past where everyone was " in touch" with themselves. If you could point to this time in history I may be more inclined to believe you. We have always been killing each other. We will always kill each other, it's in our nature. As long as we have these crazy weapons we will have high body counts.
hate what you don't understand all day long. all it makes you is ignorant.
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