the abuse of women by Islamic extremists or otherwise

JOEJOEJOE

brianlux wrote:

JOEJOEJOE wrote:

brianlux wrote:

Thank you, Chadwick, for bring this issue to our attention. What is happening to these women is horrible and it's important to make these atrocities known and out in the open and to speak out against them. I suppose someone could argue some of the fine points about this issue but that's unfortunate- it takes the focus off helping find a way to end these inhumane acts and creates division. It would be more helpful to see everyone here say,"Yes, this is wrong! What can we do about it?"

Thanks again, Chadwick.

There are all sorts of double standards when it comes to pointing-out injustices........seems as if many people need to know who the actors are before rendering an opinion on said injustices.

I'm sorry JOEJOEJOE, I'm not sure what it is you're saying here.

Sorry if I wasn't clear...I was agreeing with you, and pointing out how people often can't admit that their peeps are the ones guilty of committing horrible acts.

chadwick

you know what i want? peace. ?you want peace! this takes a simpler act than a firing bullet. ?you want peace! give a helping hand not a slap, stomp or a thrown stone. peace means trying. peace means loving. preace means smiling. peace means carrying another when they been beat by evil.

evil will not make it. peace makes it every single time.

i like what the native american indian believes about women. i try to find the link; and i did.
russell means - native american indian talks about women
http://youtu.be/kuTdvDk1cxw

yes those who fear women destroy them

brianlux

JOEJOEJOE wrote:

Sorry if I wasn't clear...I was agreeing with you, and pointing out how people often can't admit that their peeps are the ones guilty of committing horrible acts.

Ah, thanks for clarification, JOEJOEJEO. Yes, I totally agree. Acts of violence against women are certainly not confined to one group alone. It happens in far to many countries and cultures. Even here in the US where much progress has been made, there is still far too much violence toward women not to mention far too much violence in general.

Jason P

I'll make you a deal, Eff'd.

I'll devout 50% of the time I currently spend reading the Bible to reading Islamic texts and the Koran.

In return, please tally a body count for when Christian groups are offended verses when Islamic groups are offended.

To simplify, we can limit it to the last ten years and round up or down to the nearest 100'th.

Deal?

fuck

brianlux wrote:

Thank you, Chadwick, for bring this issue to our attention. What is happening to these women is horrible and it's important to make these atrocities known and out in the open and to speak out against them. I suppose someone could argue some of the fine points about this issue but that's unfortunate- it takes the focus off helping find a way to end these inhumane acts and creates division. It would be more helpful to see everyone here say,"Yes, this is wrong! What can we do about it?"

Thanks again, Chadwick.

But don't you get it? We all are acting on the agreed principle that what happened to the woman isn't right. That's not the point here. The point is to your second question, what can we do about it? This is where 'assigning blame' comes into play. It's necessary to know what caused these people to do something like this. Blaming Islam, which is what this topic does at the beginning, is what causes division. It's a very polarizing accusation--one who makes it immediately alienates over 1.6 billion people in the world, all for his/her refusal to even check the facts or methods of his/her accusation.

Let's stop with these fake calls for peace and try to introduce some sincerity into this discussion. You can't make false accusations and refuse to defend them.

fuck

chadwick wrote:

i been hearing about the middle east wars & abuse towards women there since i was a child, basically since the early to mid 1970's. that is all the women know; so they cover up. been that way how many decades, how many hundreds of years?

by the way, sir
i am not at all prejustice, not one sliver of me is against another because they are of different skin color. my father's side of the family are jewish. my great grandma barelly escaped germany with her life.

http://youtu.be/vOIbgd5qcrg
powerful poem read here
don't worry they also go after gay men not just women

It's sickening how much you talk down to Muslims.

"that is all the women know"

So the women don't know what true freedom is? They're just caged birds who only understand a 1-foot diameter of free space? Jesus christ. The women know plenty, and they make the choice to cover up out of their own free will. And many women in the Middle East choose not to cover up, and in many of the countries there, they're allowed to go out uncovered. You know which countries they can't? most of those are dictatorships, like those in the Gulf who continue with Western support, and are not demonstrative of Islam.

And prejudice (not prejustice, whatever the hell that is) is not limited to just skin color. You are prejudiced against Muslims, practicing Muslims.

catefrances

chadwick wrote:

i been hearing about the middle east wars & abuse towards women there since i was a child, basically since the early to mid 1970's. that is all the women know; so they cover up. been that way how many decades, how many hundreds of years?

by the way, sir
i am not at all prejustice, not one sliver of me is against another because they are of different skin color. my father's side of the family are jewish. my great grandma barelly escaped germany with her life.

http://youtu.be/vOIbgd5qcrg
powerful poem read here
don't worry they also go after gay men not just women

the history of man.. and lets think about that.. MAN.. is littered with the abuse of women.. the inequality of women.. the supposed inferiority of women..nd this goes across ALL cultures. do not delude yourself that 'western' culture is somehow superior to all other cultures when all it accomplishes is its subtlety in its misogyny... tho some see it all too clearly.

chadwick

catefrances wrote:

chadwick wrote:

i been hearing about the middle east wars & abuse towards women there since i was a child, basically since the early to mid 1970's. that is all the women know; so they cover up. been that way how many decades, how many hundreds of years?

by the way, sir
i am not at all prejustice, not one sliver of me is against another because they are of different skin color. my father's side of the family are jewish. my great grandma barelly escaped germany with her life.

http://youtu.be/vOIbgd5qcrg
powerful poem read here
don't worry they also go after gay men not just women

the history of man.. and lets think about that.. MAN.. is littered with the abuse of women.. the inequality of women.. the supposed inferiority of women..nd this goes across ALL cultures. do not delude yourself that 'western' culture is somehow superior to all other cultures when all it accomplishes is its subtlety in its misogyny... tho some see it all too clearly.

i fully get what you are saying. and you are 100% correct. and believe me, catefrances, i am not one for waving the flag & western culture. i do not follow this here society much at all.

but tell me something.

why the mob scenes at these public punishment trials? all i see are 500 plus MEN all fired up to stone or hang or whip or behead someone. all are crazed with the feeding frenzy blood going on. they are feeding off one another's nasty energy.

an uncle will and has killed his neice for being raped. her crime is she was raped. to save family dignity she is killed. i've seen this in the news reports for years now. it has happened here in the u.s. when a family of islam or muslim belief has came here to live.

i remember a investigation down near st. louis where a father killed his daughter for being with a man of different race. i believe the mother was in on it as well or maybe she tried to stop or maybe just did nothing. i can't remember the mother's actual part in it.

chadwick

fuck wrote:

chadwick wrote:

i been hearing about the middle east wars & abuse towards women there since i was a child, basically since the early to mid 1970's. that is all the women know; so they cover up. been that way how many decades, how many hundreds of years?

by the way, sir
i am not at all prejustice, not one sliver of me is against another because they are of different skin color. my father's side of the family are jewish. my great grandma barelly escaped germany with her life.

http://youtu.be/vOIbgd5qcrg
powerful poem read here
don't worry they also go after gay men not just women

It's sickening how much you talk down to Muslims.

"that is all the women know"

So the women don't know what true freedom is? They're just caged birds who only understand a 1-foot diameter of free space? Jesus christ. The women know plenty, and they make the choice to cover up out of their own free will. And many women in the Middle East choose not to cover up, and in many of the countries there, they're allowed to go out uncovered. You know which countries they can't? most of those are dictatorships, like those in the Gulf who continue with Western support, and are not demonstrative of Islam.

And prejudice (not prejustice, whatever the hell that is) is not limited to just skin color. You are prejudiced against Muslims, practicing Muslims.

i am not prejudice. not for one second. i want everyone to believe as they wish, do as they wish within the regards to being a decent human being.

i been watching videos of a man named Imam Siraj Wahhaj to try and understand Islam. i like him. i'd love to meet him & talk about things. he could teach me a lot of thing. still, women are oppressed & held down in a brutal fashion in the middle east. fact.

chadwick

girls and education. can you tell us about this topic.

chadwick

http://youtu.be/I1T6FdmTf14
nice

odd as fuck

chadwick

http://youtu.be/QbZ3xmKqslo
yeah nothing wrong with this picture here
frickin holy shit. these fuckers rule with an iron fist

fear4freedom

Yep and Democrats look at them as future voters for their causes and party, and you and everyone who votes Democrat.....empower them to do so! SHARIA LAW on the march here in the good ol USA! GOOD JOB LIBS!