the abuse of women by Islamic extremists or otherwise

chadwick

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbGYPMDg ... 20A411C9E1
she wouldn't wear her hijab clothing so they imprisoned her for 3 years. during her 2nd year there three men raped & beated her. they broke her leg and almost had her leg removed somehow. she awoke to find maggots in her wounded leg.

she says Islam is the most horrible thing she has experienced & that Islam is rape, failure & that women are somehow half and not human beings

what the fuck is wrong with those guys of the Islamic ways? what a nasty group

catefrances

MEN raped her... MEN beat her. not islam.

chadwick

catefrances wrote:

MEN raped her... MEN beat her. not islam.

ok cate

chadwick

'they' treat women like garbage and the 'they' are islamic men. fuck them. 'they' are cruel nasty shits.

chadwick

http://youtu.be/gq4PFnl1S6Q
Pakistani women have a pretty tough go as well. a woman gets raped in Pakistan, that is a crime. she can be stoned to death. i remember years ago i watched a stoning to death video. unreal those fuckers over there.
they put ya in a shallow pit and the entire village's menfolk pelt your ass with stones until death. you are bound & covered with some kinda sheet thing and have a blind-fold on.

grooveme

chadwick wrote:

http://youtu.be/gq4PFnl1S6Q
Pakistani women have a pretty tough go as well. a woman gets raped in Pakistan, that is a crime. she can be stoned to death. i remember years ago i watched a stoning to death video. unreal those fuckers over there.
they put ya in a shallow pit and the entire village's menfolk pelt your ass with stones until death. you are bound & covered with some kinda sheet thing and have a blind-fold on.

Sure, men do these things, not Islam, but the countries that seem to have Islamists in charge / follow Sharia law have the worst treatment of women, who have little or no rights separate from the men in their family. Pitiful, backwards places/societies in this regard.

chadwick

^ yes they are fucking pitiful & backwards as well as fucking cruel, useless & as dumb as shit

lukin2006

Anyone who lets any religion instructs them on what to eat or how to treat their woman are dumb as shit ... and I doubt any part of the world treat woman as bad as this part of the world ... I will confess as to not knowing whether its the religion, or if they use religion as an excuse ... No matter it's pure bullshit.

chadwick

women under a cruel bastard of Islam or otherwise are invited to iowa, usa. now the question is 'how do they get here?' yes i am the boss of all of iowa

brianlux

Talking with women at out women's center leads me to believe too many women have been abused EVERYWHERE. One out of four woman have been raped. To out of five have been raped or have to flee a rape attempt. This is not acceptable.

Edit: One out of a thousand or ten thousand is unacceptable. What is acceptable? A society where some one asks, "How prevalent is rape", and the answer is, "What is that?".

chadwick

brianlux wrote:

Talking with women at out women's center leads me to believe too many women have been abused EVERYWHERE. One out of four woman have been raped. To out of five have been raped or have to flee a rape attempt. This is not acceptable.

women have been oppressed, misused, tortured & everything else terrible for so long. it is because they are not as strong as men and other reasons. some men feel threatened by their presents, their beauty, their intelligence and they feel they have to smoother that out of them. it's done all over the world not just by Islamic freaks or whatever they got going on in the middleeast countries.

china treats women like crap. the list goes on. women just got their rights over here in the u.s. only a handfull of decades ago.

http://www.infoplease.com/spot/womenstimeline1.html - timeline of womens rights movement here in the u.s.

http://www.ourdocuments.gov/doc.php?flash=true&doc=63 - women could finally vote august 1920.
this took decades of struggle & hardwork

lukin2006

John Lennon and Yoko Ono addressed this issue long before it became fashionable to do so ... like he so often he did.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5lMxWWK218

fuck

The obsession people in the West have with Islamic extremism is quite fascinating. It's as if your job is to liberate brown women from brown men (only to then be subjugated to white men).

catefrances

fuck wrote:

The obsession people in the West have with Islamic extremism is quite fascinating. It's as if your job is to liberate brown women from brown men (only to then be subjugated to white men).

well dont you know fuck, were more civilised than them.

Jason P

fuck wrote:

The obsession people in the West have with Islamic extremism is quite fascinating. It's as if your job is to liberate brown women from brown men (only to then be subjugated to white men).

When airplanes full of civilians are flown into skyscrapers, it tends to catch our attention.

chadwick

i very much am more civilized than some assholes who beat, rape and torture women just because they can.
then when in court the women have zero rights and even when pregnant with the rapists baby she is called a liar and is given punishment for being raped. yeah that makes a lot of sense.

Cosmo

This is what happens when Religion based upon old writings that are considered to be 'Holy', are used as the basis for Laws to be followed by Man.
I mean, look at the Bible... there are tons of examples of how to treat Women as underlings... hell, even as property. As societies move away from religious text as rigid law, we see Women in a different light... and we don't sell our daughters to settle our sins.
Islam is what... 1400 years old? What was Christianity like in the 1400s?
In other words... Islam has to want to change and no matter what we say or want... they need to grow up and away from that crappy interpretation of what they believe God wants them to do... just as Christianity (for the better part) has moved away from the way God was depicted by Men... 5000 years ago.

catefrances

Cosmo wrote:

This is what happens when Religion based upon old writings that are considered to be 'Holy', are used as the basis for Laws to be followed by Man.
I mean, look at the Bible... there are tons of examples of how to treat Women as underlings... hell, even as property. As societies move away from religious text as rigid law, we see Women in a different light... and we don't sell our daughters to settle our sins.
Islam is what... 1400 years old? What was Christianity like in the 1400s?
In other words... Islam has to want to change and no matter what we say or want... they need to grow up and away from that crappy interpretation of what they believe God wants them to do... just as Christianity (for the better part) has moved away from the way God was depicted by Men... 5000 years ago.

Gods were way more fun B.C... and there were more of them. even the christian God was intereting.. sure he was a dick at times but he was way more interactive with mankind. what happened? did he get bored with us? or did we come to the greatest revelation of all... that God exists only because we made him and therfore started to move away from him and think about him differently? what i find fascinating is the evolution of christianity and islam as monotheistic religions. how is it that we embraced these middle eastern religions as our own at the expense of, in my case at least, the pantheon of celtic Gods? how is it that the greeks, who had some of the awesomest Gods in the history of mankind came to worship a jewish man as their saviour?

fuck

Jason P wrote:

fuck wrote:

The obsession people in the West have with Islamic extremism is quite fascinating. It's as if your job is to liberate brown women from brown men (only to then be subjugated to white men).

When airplanes full of civilians are flown into skyscrapers, it tends to catch our attention.

So the reason Americans are allowed to watch youtube videos of some crazy men in an entire other part of the world, and ultimately cast judgment upon some of the most contentious issues going on in that part of the world is because a group of crazies from there committed 9/11?
Don't even try to say that they committed 9/11 because of anything in Islam either. That argument has long been discredited, and I suggest you read up on the history of U.S. foreign policy in that part of the world if you don't already know that.

fuck

Cosmo wrote:

This is what happens when Religion based upon old writings that are considered to be 'Holy', are used as the basis for Laws to be followed by Man.
I mean, look at the Bible... there are tons of examples of how to treat Women as underlings... hell, even as property. As societies move away from religious text as rigid law, we see Women in a different light... and we don't sell our daughters to settle our sins.
Islam is what... 1400 years old? What was Christianity like in the 1400s?
In other words... Islam has to want to change and no matter what we say or want... they need to grow up and away from that crappy interpretation of what they believe God wants them to do... just as Christianity (for the better part) has moved away from the way God was depicted by Men... 5000 years ago.

What people here don't know is that there are serious Reformist movements going on in the Muslim and Islamic intellectual world. Unfortunately, what people also don't know is that by allowing Western media to dominate the discourse by reposting this depiction of Islam (e.g., that it allows the subjugation of women, etc), and in even greater ways by supporting Western policies there, they only fuel extremism and make Reformism that much harder. This forces Reformists to have a two-sided battle: on one side the extremists in the Muslim world, and on the other side the extremists in the Western world, most of whom think that at some level, Islam should be abhorred.

Jason P

fuck wrote:

Jason P wrote:

fuck wrote:

The obsession people in the West have with Islamic extremism is quite fascinating. It's as if your job is to liberate brown women from brown men (only to then be subjugated to white men).

When airplanes full of civilians are flown into skyscrapers, it tends to catch our attention.

So the reason Americans are allowed to watch youtube videos of some crazy men in an entire other part of the world, and ultimately cast judgment upon some of the most contentious issues going on in that part of the world is because a group of crazies from there committed 9/11?
Don't even try to say that they committed 9/11 because of anything in Islam either. That argument has long been discredited, and I suggest you read up on the history of U.S. foreign policy in that part of the world if you don't already know that.

Most people didn't even know what a Muslim was back then any more then they know what a Buddhist or Hindu is today. The second that Buddhists and Hindus start strapping ball-bearings to their chest and blowing themselves in crowded marketplaces, we will pay heed to their extremist sects and the behavior they display.

And it is complete pish posh to say Islam wasn't involved in 9/11. Recruiting would be very hard if you didn't believe that blowing yourself up will be rewarded in the afterlife.