Morning in America ...a Note From Michael Moore

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Morning in America ...a note from Michael Moore

Wednesday, November 7th, 2012


Congratulations everyone!!

This country has truly changed, and I believe there will be no going back. Hate lost yesterday. That is amazing in and of itself. And all the women who were elected last night! A total rebuke of Neanderthal attitudes.

Now the real work begins. Millions of us – the majority – must come together to insist that President Obama and the Democrats stand up and fight for the things we sent them there to do. Mr. President, do not listen to the pundits who today call for you to "compromise." No. You already tried that. It didn't work. You can compromise later if you need to, but please, no more beginning by compromising. And if the Republican House doesn't want to play ball, do a massive end run around them with one executive order after another – just like they have done and will do if given the chance again.

We have to have Obama's back. As he is blocked and attacked by the Right, we need to be there with him. We are the majority. Let's act like it.

And please Mr. President, make the banks and Wall Street pay. You're the boss, not them. Lead the fight to get money out of politics – the spending on this election is shameful and dangerous. Don't wait til 2014 to bring the troops home – bring 'em home now. Stop the drone strikes on civilians. End the senseless war on drugs. Act like a pit bull when it comes to climate change – ignore the nuts, and fix this now. Take the profit motive out of things that any civilized country would say, "this is for the common good." Make higher education affordable for everyone and don't send 22-year-olds out into the world already in massive debt. Order a moratorium on home foreclosures and evictions. Enact economic policy that will create good-paying jobs and spend the money that's needed to do that. Make your second term one for the history books.

Finally, thanks must be given to the Occupy movement who, a year ago, set the tone of this election year by getting everyone to talk about the 1% vs. 99%. It inspired Obama and his campaign to realize that there was a huge popular sentiment against what the wealthy have done to the country and there was something wrong if just 400 rich guys owned more than 160 million Americans combined (all those moochers and bums). This led to Romney's "47%" remarks and THAT was the beginning of the end of his campaign. Thank you Mother Jones for releasing that secret tape, and thank you to the minimum wage worker who placed a camera on the serving buffet next to the candle. This morning's headline in the Washington Post says it all: "At Romney headquarters, the defeat of the 1 percent." Thank you Sandra Fluke for enduring the insults hurled at you and then becoming an important grassroots leader against the war on women. Thank you Todd Akin for...well, for just being you. Thank you CEOs of Chrysler and GM for coming out forcefully against the Republican(!) candidate, saying he lived in "some parallel universe" when he lied about Jeep. Thank you Governor Christie for your new bromance with Obama. You know, you really didn't have to!

And you, Mother Nature, with all your horrific damage, death and destruction you caused last week, you became, ironically, the undoing of a Party that didn't believe in you or your climate changing powers.

Perhaps they'll believe now.

Once again, thanks to all of you who brought a nonvoter to the polls. In a last minute effort to get Obama an extra million votes he wasn't counting on, I enjoyed talking and texting with your loved ones and friends yesterday who weren't going to vote – but then changed their minds after a little nudge and some TLC ("Damn! Michael Moore? I'm getting in to car right now to go vote.").

To my fellow Americans, I think you'll agree: it was nice to wake up this morning in the United States of America.

Yours,
Michael Moore
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P.S. If you missed them, you might enjoy reading my tweets from last night and reliving this historic victory 140 characters at time.
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  • In this interview Tuesday, Michael Moore got somewhat heated when CNN host Piers Morgan asked for him to admit that he's part of the 1%. Moore stumbled trying to defend his wealth while at the same time make an argument that Capitalism has nothing to do with his stockpile of dough.

    Take a look at the exchange between Morgan and Moore:

    Morgan: I need you to admit the bleeding obvious. I need you to sit here and say, I'm in the 1 percent, because it's important.

    Moore: Well, I can't. Because I'm not.

    Morgan: Because the validity of your argument -- you are, though.

    Moore: No, I'm not. I'm not.

    Morgan: You're not in the 1 percent?

    Moore: Of course I'm not. How can I be in the 1 percent?


    Morgan: Because you're worth millions.

    Moore: No, that's not true. Listen, I do really well. I do well. But what's the point, though? Isn't that --

    Morgan: I do, because I find it more interesting if you're in the 1 percent because I think you probably are.

    Moore: Yes. Yes.

    Morgan: You qualify.

    Moore: Right.

    Morgan: That you are railing against a lot of capitalist ideals.

    Moore: Well, then if you believe that about me, then that's really something, isn't it?

    Morgan: No, I'm asking if you accept that.

    Moore: That even -- that even though -- that even though I do well, that I don't associate myself with those who do well, I am devoting my life to those who have less and who have been crapped upon by the system. And that's how I spend my time, my energy, my money on trying to up-end this system that I think is a system of violence, it's a system that's unfair to the average working person of this country.



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    For someone who states he is not in the top 1% that fat bastard has done pretty well for himself, 50mm net worth, 1mm plus apt on the UWS and this 2mm vacation home :lol:
  • lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087

    Moore: That even -- that even though -- that even though I do well, that I don't associate myself with those who do well, I am devoting my life to those who have less and who have been crapped upon by the system. And that's how I spend my time, my energy, my money on trying to up-end this system that I think is a system of violence, it's a system that's unfair to the average working person of this country.

    My favourite part of the exchange...ie "I make boat loads of money off other people's misfortune", is what should have been said :lol::lol:.
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  • BinauralJamBinauralJam Posts: 14,158
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    That's Beautiful, i cant imagine needing a place that big, but it sure is nice.
  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,183
    lukin2006 wrote:

    Moore: That even -- that even though -- that even though I do well, that I don't associate myself with those who do well, I am devoting my life to those who have less and who have been crapped upon by the system. And that's how I spend my time, my energy, my money on trying to up-end this system that I think is a system of violence, it's a system that's unfair to the average working person of this country.

    My favourite part of the exchange...ie "I make boat loads of money off other people's misfortune", is what should have been said :lol::lol:.

    Agree totally.
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  • Here are some of Moores foundations investments, there's some interesting names on that list :lol:

    Pfizer, Merck, Genzyme, Elan PLC, Eli Lilly, Becton Dickinson and Boston Scientific, Bank One, Haliburton, Sunoco, Noble Energy, Schlumberger, Williams Companies, Transocean Sedco Forex and Anadarko.

    Speaking of his foundation

    It is shown that claims Moore made about his foundation’s donations have been exaggerated, and he has given away only the minimum necessary to maintain the foundation’s charitable status, with much of the donations going to friends and organizations which later provided favors to him, a common example including his funding environmental projects in the proximity of his exclusive lakeside residence which helped to maintain his property values.

    http://www.newsofinterest.tv/politics/b ... _moore.php
  • Byrnzie wrote:
    Finally, thanks must be given to the Occupy movement who, a year ago, set the tone of this election year by getting everyone to talk about the 1% vs. 99%. It inspired Obama and his campaign to realize that there was a huge popular sentiment against what the wealthy have done to the country and there was something wrong if just 400 rich guys owned more than 160 million Americans combined (all those moochers and bums). This led to Romney's "47%" remarks and THAT was the beginning of the end of his campaign. Thank you Mother Jones for releasing that secret tape, and thank you to the minimum wage worker who placed a camera on the serving buffet next to the candle. This morning's headline in the Washington Post says it all: "At Romney headquarters, the defeat of the 1 percent." Thank you Sandra Fluke for enduring the insults hurled at you and then becoming an important grassroots leader against the war on women. Thank you Todd Akin for...well, for just being you. Thank you CEOs of Chrysler and GM for coming out forcefully against the Republican(!) candidate, saying he lived in "some parallel universe" when he lied about Jeep. Thank you Governor Christie for your new bromance with Obama. You know, you really didn't have to!

    And you, Mother Nature, with all your horrific damage, death and destruction you caused last week, you became, ironically, the undoing of a Party that didn't believe in you or your climate changing powers.

    Missed that before, he basically said the same thing as Matthews.
  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 11,604
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    That's Beautiful, i cant imagine needing a place that big, but it sure is nice.

    It's beautiful and tasteful. I don't know why he won't admit to being in the 1%. He can be rich and still be opposed to right wing stuff...

    I liked his summary. 8-) He does go over the top often.
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    Celebrity Net Worth (.com) has his net worth at $50M.

    Jason P has his wardrobe net worth at $13.58.

    That leaves him with 49,999,986.42 US Dollars.
  • lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    :lol::lol::lol::lol:
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  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    that fat bastard has done pretty well for himself

    Classy.


    So what you're saying here is that no wealthy person has the right to criticize the system. And if they do then they're just hypocrites and should just shut the fuck up.

    I can't help but wonder at what point on someone's rising bank balance does their opinion become obsolete and redundant?
    Are you people suggesting that as soon as someone earns over a certain amount of money, everything they say is irrelevant? So where's the threshold of this supposed relevance/irrelevance?

    Personally, I think people are entitled to an opinion regardless of how much money they have. In fact, I think the more money and influence someone has, the more responsibility they have to express their opinions, to 'speak truth to power', and try and improve the well-being of others.

    But then I realize this attitude exempts me from joining the cynics bandwagon.
  • Byrnzie wrote:
    that fat bastard has done pretty well for himself

    Classy.


    So what you're saying here is that no wealthy person has the right to criticize the system. And if they do then they're just hypocrites and should just shut the fuck up.

    Really this is Michael Moore we're talking about and according to him he is not wealthy but that cnn exchange i posted before does show that not only is he a hypocite but he's a liar as well. Moore is a fraud who has shown a complete disregard for the truth time and time again. He preaches against capitalism yet he sued the producers of f911 for almost 3 million after that greedy pig pocketed almost 20 million on that film. I could go on and on but that fat fucking pig isn't worth the time.
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Really this is Michael Moore we're talking about and according to him he is not wealthy but that cnn exchange i posted before does show that not only is he a hypocite but he's a liar as well. Moore is a fraud who has shown a complete disregard for the truth time and time again. He preaches against capitalism yet he sued the producers of f911 for almost 3 million after that greedy pig pocketed almost 20 million on that film.

    Did he, or did he not, admit in the above exchange that he's wealthy? Like he even needs to admit that to anybody, considering he's a World acclaimed movie maker? Pretty obvious he's got money in the bank. But so what? You didn't answer my question. I asked you what difference it makes how wealthy he is? At what point does the level of someone's bank balance make their opinions redundant? And why?

    Is Bruce Springsteen also a fraud who should just shut the fuck up, due to the fact that he's got money in the bank? And Ed Vedder too? Are the views and opinions of any millionaire obsolete?

    As for him being a fraud who's shown a complete disregard for the truth time and time again, maybe you can elaborate? Was he wrong about the Bush administration being completely incompetent, and the Iraq war being based on a crock of lies, and self-serving interests? Nope. Was he wrong about health care in the U.S and the corruption within the insurance industry? Nope. Was he wrong about capitalism in his film 'Capitalism: A Love Story'? Nope.

    And why did he sue the producers of 9/11? Care to elaborate on that?

    I could go on and on but that fat fucking pig isn't worth the time.


    Real classy.
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
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    He preaches against capitalism yet he sued the producers of f911 for almost 3 million

    Moore's lawyer Larry Stein issued the following statement:

    "An independent auditor came in and discovered that the Weinsteins had re-routed at least $2.7 million dollars that belonged to Michael Moore from "Fahrenheit 9/11." This is the first time Michael Moore has ever sued anyone in his 20-yr career as a filmmaker. That should be some indication about how serious this is. It's very sad it had to come to this. Michael believes the Weinsteins have been a force for good when it comes to championing independent film -- but that does not give them the right to violate a contract and take money that isn't theirs. The $2.7 million is just the floor of what we believe is owed. When this goes to discovery I wouldn't be surprised if the amount of what was taken goes much, much higher."


    But according to Bronx Bombers, if you oppose capitalism, then you should let capitalists rob you without protest.
    At least Moore makes his money by telling the truth about liars and thieves and (in Bush's case) murderers.
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    I want that house
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Are you people suggesting that as soon as someone earns over a certain amount of money, everything they say is irrelevant?
    I'm pretty sure that was the main theme the Democrats ran with against Romney.

    :think:
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Personally, I think people are entitled to an opinion regardless of how much money they have. In fact, I think the more money and influence someone has, the more responsibility they have to express their opinions, to 'speak truth to power', and try and improve the well-being of others.
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,460
    I really don;t like Michael Moore. I think he is a blowhard.

    I do find it interesting the rich liberals always talking about how the government needs to tax me more...no one is stopping you from doing it yourself. You coulda built a summer camp for disadvantaged youth...well, it looks like he did except he forgot to invite the youth!

    In reality though, someone's bank account, etc doesn't discredit their words. Unless of course that someone is being a complete hypocrite.

    Really I wish he'd just go away. But I can always just choose to ignore him.
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  • I found that diatribe of his very divisive, which is not what the US needs right now. Maybe he's right, that it seems the right blocked every attempt Obama made at compromise over the last 4 years, so that makes it ok to try to stomp your feet and do what you want now? Sounds kinda childish and immature.

    What people don't understand is that being in the 1% isn't only about money. That's just one criteria, the necessary criteria. The other major portion of that is how you conduct yourself in the world, how your money power and influence is used. Are you being like Romney, just taking over companies, firing employees and shipping the jobs overseas? Or are you someone who gives back to the community?

    Having a big house means nothing.

    Being wealthy does not automatically mean you are part of the 1%.
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,460

    Being wealthy does not automatically mean you are part of the 1%.


    Well, by actual definition it sure does.
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  • Being wealthy does not automatically mean you are part of the 1%.


    Well, by actual definition it sure does.

    my personal opinion is there is more to it than that.
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  • Being wealthy does not automatically mean you are part of the 1%.


    Well, by actual definition it sure does.

    so, correct me if I'm wrong, but your opinion is that every person who is rich is part of the problem?
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,090
    I think Moore has done some good work both in his books and his films and I also think sometimes he's not so on the mark. But so what? He's one guy. I don't know about the rest of the world, but here in America we seen to place an awful lot of focus on just a few people. We do love our stars whether they be angels or demons.
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,460

    Being wealthy does not automatically mean you are part of the 1%.


    Well, by actual definition it sure does.

    so, correct me if I'm wrong, but your opinion is that every person who is rich is part of the problem?

    I never said that the 1% was the problem. Michael Moore did, Obama did, not I.

    I think there are people in everyone of those %'s that is the problem.
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,460
    brianlux wrote:
    I think Moore has done some good work both in his books and his films and I also think sometimes he's not so on the mark. But so what? He's one guy. I don't know about the rest of the world, but here in America we seen to place an awful lot of focus on just a few people. We do love our stars whether they be angels or demons.


    Well, we lack royalty. ;)
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,090
    brianlux wrote:
    I think Moore has done some good work both in his books and his films and I also think sometimes he's not so on the mark. But so what? He's one guy. I don't know about the rest of the world, but here in America we seen to place an awful lot of focus on just a few people. We do love our stars whether they be angels or demons.


    Well, we lack royalty. ;)

    I seem to be the only person I know who thinks this way, but I think we should have some form of "royalty". To me it would make sense to have a "king" or "queen"- someone who looks good, who represents us as a personality but has little actual power. And really, that's kind of the way it really is anyway. The president has a cabinet but all the focus goes on one person. The executive branch should be a committee. People have told me that that's what congress is for and I say "a committee not a mob".
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  • so, correct me if I'm wrong, but your opinion is that every person who is rich is part of the problem?

    I never said that the 1% was the problem. Michael Moore did, Obama did, not I.

    I think there are people in everyone of those %'s that is the problem.

    spot on.
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  • BinauralJamBinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    brianlux wrote:
    I think Moore has done some good work both in his books and his films and I also think sometimes he's not so on the mark. But so what? He's one guy. I don't know about the rest of the world, but here in America we seen to place an awful lot of focus on just a few people. We do love our stars whether they be angels or demons.


    Well, we lack royalty. ;)


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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,460
    brianlux wrote:
    I think Moore has done some good work both in his books and his films and I also think sometimes he's not so on the mark. But so what? He's one guy. I don't know about the rest of the world, but here in America we seen to place an awful lot of focus on just a few people. We do love our stars whether they be angels or demons.


    Well, we lack royalty. ;)


    Cannes+A+Mighty+Heart+Premiere+BDc05fa9yDrl.jpg

    All hail the queen!!!! Damn, she is fine. I wish I had Michael Moore's $ and house...I bet I could get a lookalike!!!
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,090


    Well, we lack royalty. ;)


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    All hail the queen!!!! Damn, she is fine. I wish I had Michael Moore's $ and house...I bet I could get a lookalike!!!


    There you go! That's the ticket! :D
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    Democracy Dies in Darkness- Washington Post













  • "And please Mr. President, make the banks and Wall Street pay. You're the boss, not them."

    Note to M. Moore: You do pay attention, right? His staff was and is loaded from day one of his first term with Goldman/Sachs players. I guess it was a bit of a typo when you typed "not them". Who da boss? Big bizniz.

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