Did you notice I drive less than 50 miles a week and fill my car up maybe once every three weeks.
But I guess you are one of those who judge others so freely...
you know that only brings you into negative light.
and if you drove those 50 miles every 3 weeks in a smart car or a prius you'd fill up once every two months, if that.
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but I agree some like to manipulate others are just honest.
More 'honest' and detailed figures:
"1) In 2011, about 49 percent of the population lived in a household where at least one member received a direct benefit from the federal government.A big chunk of these households are retirees. And about 27 percent households benefited from a means-tested poverty program. A quick breakdown:
–Last year, about 29 percent of households received Medicare benefits and 31.6 percent received Social Security. (Obviously there’s a lot of overlap between those two, since those programs mainly benefit retirees.)
–Meanwhile, about 32 million households, or27.1 percent, benefited from at least one means-tested poverty program. The biggest benefits here were Medicaid (19.5 percent), food stamps (12.7 percent) and subsidized lunches (11.2 percent). Again, there’s some overlap.
–Smaller benefits include public housing (5 percent of households), unemployment (4 percent), and veterans’ compensation (2.6 percent). Only 7 percent of households receive some sort of direct cash assistance, such as the TANF welfare program."
Are you now also denying our elders the benefits they paid for all their lives allowing them to finally have a bit of a break?
Facts and figures. These from 'official' sources. Check what is behind a 'headline'. The charts in this article are very clear and easy to understand. Gives all kinds of breakdowns as to this 'half the population on benefits) malarky.
the 50% is correct then some form of government aid
This from a person who, in another thread, stated that half of the population was on food stamps.... :roll:
You still don't get it, do you? Have you even opened the link and looked at the charts (you didn't even have to read the words if you didn't want to)? YOu don't seem to understand/want to understand what 'aid' comprises as it doesn't seem to fit your agenda....
Some of this 'aid' has been paid for during a lifetime of work, just reaping the benefits of such. 'Aid' that people already pay for/have paid for via their taxes, etc. These aren't 'handouts', alms....
As said, this 50% makes great dramatic headlines and most will not see what is behind these. Especially when Romney states this incorrect fact (debunked) and says he couldn't give a shit about these people.
You're not too far from retirement age. When the time comes, are you going to return the money to the governement saying no thank you?
The blues are being bashed really I thought I was part blue :?
perhaps it speaks to how you listen. Oh no never even thought those voting for Obama are only voting down party lines
that is not common sense, you see perhaps it is how you listen.
I never made that claim it is how you interpret my words.
this is hilarious. Just to prove my own point, I searched your posts, and punched in "blues" and came up with 9 pages. Read several of the posts, and all of them were casting a bad light on them, saying they were hypcritical, intolerant, etc. All blanket statements about the democratic side of the debate.
proof is in the pudding. it's just laughable you claim otherwise. There's no "misinterpretation" here. it's in black and white.
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I openly point and laugh in the faces of the idiot conservatives who cry about how the mean old "dems blame Bush" and whine that "it's getting tired."
If I run you over in my car and paralyze you, and you come to me four years later in a wheelchair, I will get a big kick out of saying "that was FOUR YEARS AGO and you're STILL blaming me?!"
But we have seen the limited intellect of the types who don't care about how Mitt Romeny changes positions and fucks more people than a bisexual porn star, they don't care that his experience as a business man has been buying successful companies, bankrupting them and outsourcing the jobs to China and keeping hundreds of millions of dollars for himself and they don't care that he has himself angrily insisted that "government can't create jobs."
They like him because his middle name isn't Hussein.
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..... Mitt Romeny changes positions and fucks more people than a bisexual porn star....
You've got a way of saying things!
It certainly grabs one's attention the way he says these things, a great way of leaving a lasting impression.
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Well I gather then that Romney is your man to lead this country...good for you. In 2004 we had a somewhat wealthy challenger in Kerry (seen him several times on his yacht and sail boat in Nantucket harbour) who appeared to have a chance to beat Bush only to be beaten in a close race. That race seemed preordained as in the decision was already made and Bush was going to win no matter what to finish his 8 years.
This time around it appears to me to be the same with a strong challenge from Romney only to be beaten in a large electoral win with a close popular vote. This race also seems preordained that Obama will win and the candidates already know this somehow.
To me that's the strange world of our American politics/politricks...excuse me.
Oh boy oh boy...
please do not assume that Romney is my man. I like Obama, he is a great figurehead,
actually quite perfect at that, which fits nicely with your theory.
Instead of *gather* maybe i should have said *appears* Romney will be your man....again good for you. It does fit well with my theory doesn't it.
Maybe after you've made your choice in the voting booth on Nov 6th, would you care to chime in on whom you chose to vote for on that day?
Peace
yes but the theory makes me very sad
I will share if you will too...
I've said here a 100 times I'm going to vote President Obama without hesitation which will be crucial here in Florida.
Peace
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*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
It's very easy to see. I am so stoked for the next American century! Driving I have had multiple people (yes, of course one was in a Prius) give me the finger just because I have a MITT sticker on my heavy. Love it. They scared, they mad, they intolerant.
“Have you been watching the Obama campaign lately?” the Republican presidential candidate asked the crowd, including motorcycle enthusiasts in town for the annual ‘Biketoberfest’ event. “They have no agenda for the future, no agenda for America, no agenda for a second term”
“It’s a good thing they won’t have a second term,” Romney continued to applause. “We have big ideas, bold ideas, a strong agenda. We are going to get America working again and that’s why you’re going to help elect the two of us.”
Believe in America
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Woot!
did you put the mitt siticker over your other stickers of donald trump, rick perry, herman cain, michele bachmann, and rick santorum, all of whom you supported before romney, or did you peel all of them off each time you changed your preferences??
Zing
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
I openly point and laugh in the faces of the idiot conservatives who cry about how the mean old "dems blame Bush" and whine that "it's getting tired."
If I run you over in my car and paralyze you, and you come to me four years later in a wheelchair, I will get a big kick out of saying "that was FOUR YEARS AGO and you're STILL blaming me?!"
But we have seen the limited intellect of the types who don't care about how Mitt Romeny changes positions and fucks more people than a bisexual porn star, they don't care that his experience as a business man has been buying successful companies, bankrupting them and outsourcing the jobs to China and keeping hundreds of millions of dollars for himself and they don't care that he has himself angrily insisted that "government can't create jobs."
They like him because his middle name isn't Hussein.
Enjoy your read but can you ever keep an open mind...
silly me for even contemplating that
I think after four years if you haven't forgiven someone you probably never will...
but that analogy is dumb and certainly doesn't fit the responsibility we expect from our
President to fix the problems at hand when they come into office. The 5.5 trillion add'l debt is one that is tough to sweep under the carpet.
It's very easy to see. I am so stoked for the next American century! Driving I have had multiple people (yes, of course one was in a Prius) give me the finger just because I have a MITT sticker on my heavy. Love it. They scared, they mad, they intolerant.
“Have you been watching the Obama campaign lately?” the Republican presidential candidate asked the crowd, including motorcycle enthusiasts in town for the annual ‘Biketoberfest’ event. “They have no agenda for the future, no agenda for America, no agenda for a second term”
“It’s a good thing they won’t have a second term,” Romney continued to applause. “We have big ideas, bold ideas, a strong agenda. We are going to get America working again and that’s why you’re going to help elect the two of us.”
Believe in America
Emoticon
Woot!
did you put the mitt siticker over your other stickers of donald trump, rick perry, herman cain, michele bachmann, and rick santorum, all of whom you supported before romney, or did you peel all of them off each time you changed your preferences??
I've said here a 100 times I'm going to vote President Obama without hesitation which will be crucial here in Florida.
Peace
Pardon I do know you are a supporter of our President,
I thought perhaps you had rethought that,
some are.
My state will most likely be going red with or without my vote.
did you put the mitt siticker over your other stickers of donald trump, rick perry, herman cain, michele bachmann, and rick santorum, all of whom you supported before romney, or did you peel all of them off each time you changed your preferences??
Zing
You obviously haven't seen Hotel Transylvania
I have no idea what you're talking about.
Oh, btw, I saw this cartoon today and thought of you.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
This from a person who, in another thread, stated that half of the population was on food stamps.... :roll:
You still don't get it, do you? Have you even opened the link and looked at the charts (you didn't even have to read the words if you didn't want to)? YOu don't seem to understand/want to understand what 'aid' comprises as it doesn't seem to fit your agenda....
Some of this 'aid' has been paid for during a lifetime of work, just reaping the benefits of such. 'Aid' that people already pay for/have paid for via their taxes, etc. These aren't 'handouts', alms....
As said, this 50% makes great dramatic headlines and most will not see what is behind these. Especially when Romney states this incorrect fact (debunked) and says he couldn't give a shit about these people.
You're not too far from retirement age. When the time comes, are you going to return the money to the governement saying no thank you?
Of course I understand some of the 50% is retirees on social security, it is still government aid.
I do not think that figure is misleading at all and I would like to see it being reduced
not growing larger... how about you?
Who ever gives back free money?
that is truly the problem it's not free and it's not even real money anymore.
I would rather not be apart of the problem
and will take budget cuts necessary to fix this for my children's sake.
How about you?
The blues are being bashed really I thought I was part blue :?
perhaps it speaks to how you listen. Oh no never even thought those voting for Obama are only voting down party lines
that is not common sense, you see perhaps it is how you listen.
I never made that claim it is how you interpret my words.
this is hilarious. Just to prove my own point, I searched your posts, and punched in "blues" and came up with 9 pages. Read several of the posts, and all of them were casting a bad light on them, saying they were hypcritical, intolerant, etc. All blanket statements about the democratic side of the debate.
proof is in the pudding. it's just laughable you claim otherwise. There's no "misinterpretation" here. it's in black and white.
Only if the shoe fits sir... you see I tell it like it is.
Sorry but that's really something spending so much time on little old me...
wonder why?
I don't really need to say anything about the really red here
you blues sure take care of that ...
relentlessly :fp:
and claim at the same time to be so tolerant of others,
well if they think just like you that is... that's the blue disclaimer
I find the really red refreshingly honest.
Of course I understand some of the 50% is retirees on social security, it is still government aid.
I do not think that figure is misleading at all and I would like to see it being reduced
not growing larger... how about you?
Who ever gives back free money?
that is truly the problem it's not free and it's not even real money anymore. I would rather not be apart of the problem
and will take budget cuts necessary to fix this for my children's sake.
How about you?
At least 1/2 of the 50% are retirees.
Who ever said it was free? As stated numerous times by a lot of different people, one has paid for this via their taxes. Again, look at those graphs/charts. See who actually receives 'true' aid/benefits/handouts. The 'lazy scroungers' are not the norm. Most households have people in work.
So... you accept you will be part of the problem then... Thought so - who can hand back government money, eh?.
I guess you never took advantage of any tax breaks (mortage? As an employer?). This can be construed as 'aid' as well...
And I'm sure that in your lifetime you, or those close to you, have been 'part of the problem' before....
Cuts? You're talking to me about cuts? You are so quick at reminding me that I do not live in the US.. check out what is happening (and has been happening for a while) in the UK. Then talk to me about accepting cuts. (Note: UK - conservative government - working with cuts, not growth, same scaremongering - just as a US conservative government would work). Though here we still have a national health (with all it's warts), we can still take care of our sick, our disabled, our old. 'The People' do not consider these as 'disposable'. Protests have already made the government make a few about turns and backtrack on certain policies.
Of course I understand some of the 50% is retirees on social security, it is still government aid.
I do not think that figure is misleading at all and I would like to see it being reduced
not growing larger... how about you?
Who ever gives back free money?
that is truly the problem it's not free and it's not even real money anymore. I would rather not be apart of the problem
and will take budget cuts necessary to fix this for my children's sake.
How about you?
At least 1/2 of the 50% are retirees.
Who ever said it was free? As stated numerous times by a lot of different people, one has paid for this via their taxes. Again, look at those graphs/charts. See who actually receives 'true' aid/benefits/handouts. The 'lazy scroungers' are not the norm. Most households have people in work.
So... you accept you will be part of the problem then... Though so.
And I'm sure that in your lifetime you, or those close to you, have been 'part of the problem' before....
Cuts? You're talking to me about cuts? You are so quick at reminding me that I do not live in the US.. check out what is happening (and has been happening for a while) in the UK. Then talk to me about accepting cuts. (Note: UK - conservative government - working with cuts, not growth, same scaremongering - just as a US conservative government would work). Though here we still have a national health (with all it's warts), we can still take care of our sick, our disabled, our old. 'The People' do not consider these as 'disposable'. Protests have already made the government make a few about turns and backtrack on certain policies.
I am talking about all the aid is free money.
Social Security is based on a program based on wages.
Some of the taxes we pay in we will receive back. But it is not real money now,
we are 17 trillion in debt and printing funny money. Why must I explain?
We are in fail mode and can not rely on the government the way Obama
is trying to maintain and grow.
I would like to take care of the US before we end up like Europe.
Good to see cuts are taking place there, that is common sense
because government was never intended to take care of nor provide for it's people.
Government represents it's people, it defends it's people, it educates it's people.
Stop the taxation, stimulate growth by consumer buying, downsize the role of the
federal government in peoples lives.
The blues are being bashed really I thought I was part blue :?
perhaps it speaks to how you listen. Oh no never even thought those voting for Obama are only voting down party lines
that is not common sense, you see perhaps it is how you listen.
I never made that claim it is how you interpret my words.
this is hilarious. Just to prove my own point, I searched your posts, and punched in "blues" and came up with 9 pages. Read several of the posts, and all of them were casting a bad light on them, saying they were hypcritical, intolerant, etc. All blanket statements about the democratic side of the debate.
proof is in the pudding. it's just laughable you claim otherwise. There's no "misinterpretation" here. it's in black and white.
Only if the shoe fits sir... you see I tell it like it is.
Sorry but that's really something spending so much time on little old me...
wonder why?
I don't really need to say anything about the really red here
you blues sure take care of that ...
relentlessly :fp:
and claim at the same time to be so tolerant of others,
well if they think just like you that is... that's the blue disclaimer
I find the really red refreshingly honest.
I'm not blue. I'm red and white. something I have said to you countless times.
Hugh, meet brick wall.
I've disagreed and agreed with everyone on this board, you included. so it's nothing to do with a certain person, a way they vote, or if I even like/dislike them.
and this: "well if they think just like you that is... that's the blue disclaimer " is exactly what was referring to when I said you are bashing blues, then you came back with "why would I bash blues? I am part blue".
So then are you only part tolerant, too? :?
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I never think it's a joke to make fun of other people
that's not real humor to me, like Don Rickles shit, it's underhanded
but if you find that funny maybe you like fat people jokes too
or minority jokes or those directed at the mentally challenged
that's just not my cup of tea.
I am talking about all the aid is free money.
Social Security is based on a program based on wages.
Some of the taxes we pay in we will receive back. But it is not real money now,
we are 17 trillion in debt and printing funny money. Why must I explain? We are in fail mode and can not rely on the government the way Obama
is trying to maintain and grow.
I would like to take care of the US before we end up like Europe.
Good to see cuts are taking place there, that is common sense
because government was never intended to take care of nor provide for it's people.
Government represents it's people, it defends it's people, it educates it's people.
Stop the taxation, stimulate growth by consumer buying, downsize the role of the
federal government in peoples lives.
so if you believe this, then why on EARTH would you consider giving him another 4 years? just because you "like him"??
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this is hilarious. Just to prove my own point, I searched your posts, and punched in "blues" and came up with 9 pages. Read several of the posts, and all of them were casting a bad light on them, saying they were hypcritical, intolerant, etc. All blanket statements about the democratic side of the debate.
proof is in the pudding. it's just laughable you claim otherwise. There's no "misinterpretation" here. it's in black and white.
Only if the shoe fits sir... you see I tell it like it is.
Sorry but that's really something spending so much time on little old me...
wonder why?
I don't really need to say anything about the really red here
you blues sure take care of that ...
relentlessly :fp:
and claim at the same time to be so tolerant of others,
well if they think just like you that is... that's the blue disclaimer
I find the really red refreshingly honest.
I'm not blue. I'm red and white. something I have said to you countless times.
Hugh, meet brick wall.
I've disagreed and agreed with everyone on this board, you included. so it's nothing to do with a certain person, a way they vote, or if I even like/dislike them.
and this: "well if they think just like you that is... that's the blue disclaimer " is exactly what was referring to when I said you are bashing blues, then you came back with "why would I bash blues? I am part blue".
So then are you only part tolerant, too? :?
Hey Hugh can you read the graffiti on the brick wall?
I am talking about all the aid is free money.
Social Security is based on a program based on wages.
Some of the taxes we pay in we will receive back. But it is not real money now,
we are 17 trillion in debt and printing funny money. Why must I explain? We are in fail mode and can not rely on the government the way Obama
is trying to maintain and grow.
I would like to take care of the US before we end up like Europe.
Good to see cuts are taking place there, that is common sense
because government was never intended to take care of nor provide for it's people.
Government represents it's people, it defends it's people, it educates it's people.
Stop the taxation, stimulate growth by consumer buying, downsize the role of the
federal government in peoples lives.
so if you believe this, then why on EARTH would you consider giving him another 4 years? just because you "like him"??
please read my conversation with gunderp in the thread you will be enlightened
I would like to take care of the US before we end up like Europe.
Good to see cuts are taking place there, that is common sense
because government was never intended to take care of nor provide for it's people.
Government represents it's people, it defends it's people, it educates it's people.
Stop the taxation, stimulate growth by consumer buying, downsize the role of the
federal government in peoples lives.
The US is already worse than some European countries (and has been for a number of years). Europe is not 'one' - remember that. You might want to brush up on European politics before making sweeping statements.
Note: government does not take care or provide for it's people (the majority). The people provide for themselves by paying taxes to the government =which, in return, the government will use FOR THE PEOPLE.
You really don't understand about 'cuts' with nothing else to support the country. Cuts, less money, less purchasing power, more businesses failing, etc. Though I think this has been explained a number of times in a number of threads.
I'm talking to a brick wall. (Norm!!!!Brick wall emoticon, please!!!!) Not worth my time 'discussing' this with you anymore. 'bye.
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and if you drove those 50 miles every 3 weeks in a smart car or a prius you'd fill up once every two months, if that.
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This from a person who, in another thread, stated that half of the population was on food stamps.... :roll:
You still don't get it, do you? Have you even opened the link and looked at the charts (you didn't even have to read the words if you didn't want to)? YOu don't seem to understand/want to understand what 'aid' comprises as it doesn't seem to fit your agenda....
Some of this 'aid' has been paid for during a lifetime of work, just reaping the benefits of such. 'Aid' that people already pay for/have paid for via their taxes, etc. These aren't 'handouts', alms....
As said, this 50% makes great dramatic headlines and most will not see what is behind these. Especially when Romney states this incorrect fact (debunked) and says he couldn't give a shit about these people.
You're not too far from retirement age. When the time comes, are you going to return the money to the governement saying no thank you?
this is hilarious. Just to prove my own point, I searched your posts, and punched in "blues" and came up with 9 pages. Read several of the posts, and all of them were casting a bad light on them, saying they were hypcritical, intolerant, etc. All blanket statements about the democratic side of the debate.
proof is in the pudding. it's just laughable you claim otherwise. There's no "misinterpretation" here. it's in black and white.
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
If I run you over in my car and paralyze you, and you come to me four years later in a wheelchair, I will get a big kick out of saying "that was FOUR YEARS AGO and you're STILL blaming me?!"
But we have seen the limited intellect of the types who don't care about how Mitt Romeny changes positions and fucks more people than a bisexual porn star, they don't care that his experience as a business man has been buying successful companies, bankrupting them and outsourcing the jobs to China and keeping hundreds of millions of dollars for himself and they don't care that he has himself angrily insisted that "government can't create jobs."
They like him because his middle name isn't Hussein.
That is all.
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I've said here a 100 times I'm going to vote President Obama without hesitation which will be crucial here in Florida.
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
Enjoy your read but can you ever keep an open mind...
silly me for even contemplating that
I think after four years if you haven't forgiven someone you probably never will...
but that analogy is dumb and certainly doesn't fit the responsibility we expect from our
President to fix the problems at hand when they come into office. The 5.5 trillion
add'l debt is one that is tough to sweep under the carpet.
I thought perhaps you had rethought that,
some are.
My state will most likely be going red with or without my vote.
I have no idea what you're talking about.
Oh, btw, I saw this cartoon today and thought of you.
I do not think that figure is misleading at all and I would like to see it being reduced
not growing larger... how about you?
Who ever gives back free money?
that is truly the problem it's not free and it's not even real money anymore.
I would rather not be apart of the problem
and will take budget cuts necessary to fix this for my children's sake.
How about you?
Yes that is usually the case
Seems I'm not alone after all , they got a cartoon for the still undecided
too wordy and not very funny though.
Yeah problem is I know I should vote for Romney, I just like Obama is all.
"I need your strength for me to be strong...I need your love to feel loved"
Sorry but that's really something spending so much time on little old me...
wonder why?
I don't really need to say anything about the really red here
you blues sure take care of that ...
relentlessly :fp:
and claim at the same time to be so tolerant of others,
well if they think just like you that is... that's the blue disclaimer
I find the really red refreshingly honest.
At least 1/2 of the 50% are retirees.
Who ever said it was free? As stated numerous times by a lot of different people, one has paid for this via their taxes. Again, look at those graphs/charts. See who actually receives 'true' aid/benefits/handouts. The 'lazy scroungers' are not the norm. Most households have people in work.
So... you accept you will be part of the problem then... Thought so - who can hand back government money, eh?.
I guess you never took advantage of any tax breaks (mortage? As an employer?). This can be construed as 'aid' as well...
And I'm sure that in your lifetime you, or those close to you, have been 'part of the problem' before....
Cuts? You're talking to me about cuts? You are so quick at reminding me that I do not live in the US.. check out what is happening (and has been happening for a while) in the UK. Then talk to me about accepting cuts. (Note: UK - conservative government - working with cuts, not growth, same scaremongering - just as a US conservative government would work). Though here we still have a national health (with all it's warts), we can still take care of our sick, our disabled, our old. 'The People' do not consider these as 'disposable'. Protests have already made the government make a few about turns and backtrack on certain policies.
Social Security is based on a program based on wages.
Some of the taxes we pay in we will receive back. But it is not real money now,
we are 17 trillion in debt and printing funny money. Why must I explain?
We are in fail mode and can not rely on the government the way Obama
is trying to maintain and grow.
I would like to take care of the US before we end up like Europe.
Good to see cuts are taking place there, that is common sense
because government was never intended to take care of nor provide for it's people.
Government represents it's people, it defends it's people, it educates it's people.
Stop the taxation, stimulate growth by consumer buying, downsize the role of the
federal government in peoples lives.
I'm not blue. I'm red and white. something I have said to you countless times.
Hugh, meet brick wall.
I've disagreed and agreed with everyone on this board, you included. so it's nothing to do with a certain person, a way they vote, or if I even like/dislike them.
and this: "well if they think just like you that is... that's the blue disclaimer
So then are you only part tolerant, too? :?
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Who's Frank :?
I never think it's a joke to make fun of other people
that's not real humor to me, like Don Rickles shit, it's underhanded
but if you find that funny maybe you like fat people jokes too
or minority jokes or those directed at the mentally challenged
that's just not my cup of tea.
so if you believe this, then why on EARTH would you consider giving him another 4 years? just because you "like him"??
Fargo 2003
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I can help you with your flashing VCR clock if you want.
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The US is already worse than some European countries (and has been for a number of years). Europe is not 'one' - remember that. You might want to brush up on European politics before making sweeping statements.
Note: government does not take care or provide for it's people (the majority). The people provide for themselves by paying taxes to the government =which, in return, the government will use FOR THE PEOPLE.
You really don't understand about 'cuts' with nothing else to support the country. Cuts, less money, less purchasing power, more businesses failing, etc. Though I think this has been explained a number of times in a number of threads.
I'm talking to a brick wall. (Norm!!!!Brick wall emoticon, please!!!!) Not worth my time 'discussing' this with you anymore. 'bye.
i read all posts in threads I'm engaged in, and nothing you said in your conversation with him is enlightening.
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Ain't got the will nor inclination.
Have a happy Sunday, folks.
(and cheers to intoleranceableness on all - five? - horizons; or at least four of them, according to these fine fellas
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLv7viCMGo8
hey!