Jewish Settler Attacks = Terrorism

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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    mattsl1983 said:

    You edit every post you make

    So what?
    mattsl1983 said:

    and you rely on quotes from other people that are taken out of context.

    Such as?
    mattsl1983 said:

    But of course you will not look at the real history

    And what 'real history' is that? The 'history' that you saw one time on Youtube? Or was that the 'history' you saw one time in a Steven Spielberg movie?
    mattsl1983 said:

    you take sides with an ideology that says it's okay to put a bomb on and blow yourself up in the name of Allah.

    No, I take sides with a people who are undergoing an illegal military occupation, and who are victims of a 45 year old ethnic cleansing campaign and land-grab by a state run by racist lunatics.
    mattsl1983 said:

    If you want to have a real conversation about the issue, stop ignoring history, and be honest. I know you enjoy your google machine, but google will tell you whatever you want to hear.

    Sure, I should just listen to you instead, right?
    mattsl1983 said:

    Heck at this point I'm still waiting for you to justify black september.


    Of course you are.




  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    edited June 2014
    mattsl1983 said:



    offers

    67
    82
    93
    94
    05
    08

    I didn't ask you for a list of numbers. I asked you to provide an example of when, and how, Israel offered peace.

  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    edited June 2014
    Off the top of my head:

    1967 - Israel attacked Egypt and Syria
    1982 - The Israeli invasion of Lebanon
    1993 - The Oslo Accords - The settler population increased from 250,000 to 380,000 during the Oslo years, while Israel confiscated, all told, nearly half the land surface of the West Bank. And which ultimately led to the second Palestinian intifada. Some peace!
    2005 - End of the second Intifada which was sparked by Sharon's provocative visit to the Temple Mount, and subsequent killing of Palestinian protestors, and countless war crimes. Withdrawal of settlers from Gaza and their relocation in illegal settlements in the West Bank, along with a huge overall increase in West Bank settlement expansion.
    2008 - Israeli invasion of Gaza in which over 1,600 civilians were murdered, including over 400 children.

    Anyway, you're the one pretending to be in possession of the 'real history', so why don't you answer my question?
    Provide me an example of when, and how, Israel offered peace.
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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    mattsl1983 said:



    Look at history, offers
    67
    82
    93
    94
    05
    08

    O.k, because I know that you're a tad confused, and that you really don't know what you're talking about, I'll make it easier for you. I'll pick the number at the top of your list of random dates.

    Provide me an example of how Israel offered peace in 1967.



  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    Byrnzie said:

    Off the top of my head:

    1967 - Israel attacked Egypt and Syria
    1982 - The Israeli invasion of Lebanon
    1993 - The Oslo Accords - The settler population increased from 250,000 to 380,000 during the Oslo years, while Israel confiscated, all told, nearly half the land surface of the West Bank. And which ultimately led to the second Palestinian intifada. Some peace!
    2005 - End of the second Intifada which was sparked by Sharon's provocative visit to the Temple Mount, and subsequent killing of Palestinian protestors, and countless war crimes. Withdrawal of settlers from Gaza and their relocation in illegal settlements in the West Bank, along with a huge overall increase in West Bank settlement expansion.
    2008 - Israeli invasion of Gaza in which over 1,600 civilians were murdered, including over 400 children.

    Anyway, you're the one pretending to be in possession of the 'real history', so why don't you answer my question?
    Provide me an example of when, and how, Israel offered peace.

    I'll bet he'll still find a way of twisting the facts or defending their actions. I've asked many many many times. Why when Israel does something fucked up (like dropping a bomb on a school or dropping a bomb on a UN safe house), no one whoever defends them NEVER come on here and CONDEMS the act? It's always DEAD SILENT. Just a curious question. Is it cuz Israel can do NO WRONG or is it that it's against the Palestinians and their lives ain't worth shit. Can someone please answer that for me. I'd really like to know.
  • mattsl1983
    mattsl1983 Posts: 711
    You are so funny and fun to disagree with. It is pure entertainment. Never has there ever been one that will quote everything they can find in order to try and make their point. You are good at using google, google those years and you'll see Israel offered land, even removed their forces only to be shitted on each time.

    I can stand here and say yes, does Israel have a fault in the the situation today? Yes, yes they do. But are the Arab nations not responsible for the Israelie occupancy today? Yes, yes they are. You wave a flag of innocent Palistinians, but you disregard how this situation came to be.

    My problem with peope such as yourself, are that you find anything and everything to blame Israel. You refuse to accept any sort of responsibility or how things got to where they are at. You just take a sympathetical side and defend it to the end.

    And why do you keep side stepping Black September? I mean a person such as yourself that will always quote this or that, post an article link, ect ect, I've brought up black September twice and you just disregard it. Is it because you haven't come across an article that supports your ideas?

    Do you really think this is about land? Do you honestly believe that if Israel left Gaza and the West Bank that will end all conflicts? Answer that one for me please.
  • mattsl1983
    mattsl1983 Posts: 711
    Oh yea I'm so confused, maybe you should take a look at unbiased historical accounts of the Six Day War. Yea, to help you out, that was 1967. Post your links! I'm waiting!
  • mattsl1983
    mattsl1983 Posts: 711
    Maybe, and just maybe, it's funny. You feel like you know based on the sources and media you follow, and maybe I'm the same, but just different sources. But no matter how much we think we really know, we don't know shit because neither one of us have grown up their or lived their. It's a funny thought.
  • mattsl1983
    mattsl1983 Posts: 711
    badbrains said:

    Byrnzie said:

    Off the top of my head:

    1967 - Israel attacked Egypt and Syria
    1982 - The Israeli invasion of Lebanon
    1993 - The Oslo Accords - The settler population increased from 250,000 to 380,000 during the Oslo years, while Israel confiscated, all told, nearly half the land surface of the West Bank. And which ultimately led to the second Palestinian intifada. Some peace!
    2005 - End of the second Intifada which was sparked by Sharon's provocative visit to the Temple Mount, and subsequent killing of Palestinian protestors, and countless war crimes. Withdrawal of settlers from Gaza and their relocation in illegal settlements in the West Bank, along with a huge overall increase in West Bank settlement expansion.
    2008 - Israeli invasion of Gaza in which over 1,600 civilians were murdered, including over 400 children.

    Anyway, you're the one pretending to be in possession of the 'real history', so why don't you answer my question?
    Provide me an example of when, and how, Israel offered peace.

    I'll bet he'll still find a way of twisting the facts or defending their actions. I've asked many many many times. Why when Israel does something fucked up (like dropping a bomb on a school or dropping a bomb on a UN safe house), no one whoever defends them NEVER come on here and CONDEMS the act? It's always DEAD SILENT. Just a curious question. Is it cuz Israel can do NO WRONG or is it that it's against the Palestinians and their lives ain't worth shit. Can someone please answer that for me. I'd really like to know.
    No twisting facts. Look at the history. It amazes me how much you guys want to ignore history or why and how things happened, but at the same time cherry pick anything that supports your side. It's an ignore/accept mentality, and I don't understand it at all.
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    edited June 2014
    mattsl1983 said:

    google those years and you'll see Israel offered land, even removed their forces only to be shitted on each time.

    I see, so you're incapable of providing me an example. And I don't need to Google those years because I already know what happened during those years. But you don't. You don't know what you're talking about.
    Israel offered land in 1967? Really? Israel offered land in 1982, 93, 95, 05, and 08? No it didn't. It did nothing of the sort.

    You don't know what you're talking about.
    mattsl1983 said:

    are the Arab nations not responsible for the Israelie occupancy today?

    You think the Palestinians are responsible for having their land stolen from them, and for having undergone 60 years of ethnic cleansing? That's interesting. Now go ahead and explain why.
    mattsl1983 said:

    And why do you keep side stepping Black September? I mean a person such as yourself that will always quote this or that, post an article link, ect ect, I've brought up black September twice and you just disregard it. Is it because you haven't come across an article that supports your ideas?

    I haven't side-stepped anything. Some Palestinian terrorists killed some Israeli hostages at the Olympics. So what? What does that have to do with anything?

    And you still haven't answered my question. I asked you to provide an example of when Israel offered peace. I didn't ask for a list of numbers. I asked for an example of when Israel offered peace. I'm still waiting.
    mattsl1983 said:

    Do you honestly believe that if Israel left Gaza and the West Bank that will end all conflicts? Answer that one for me please.

    I don't know. Maybe, maybe not.

    Do you support ethnic cleansing?
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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    edited June 2014
    mattsl1983 said:

    Oh yea I'm so confused, maybe you should take a look at unbiased historical accounts of the Six Day War. Yea, to help you out, that was 1967. Post your links! I'm waiting!

    Unbiased? Are the Jerusalem Post and Haaretz biased in favour of the Palestinians?

    You said those quotes I posted by Israeli leaders are out of context. I asked you to prove that they're out of context. So why haven't you? Or were you just talking more shit?

    Why don't you just admit that you don't know what you're talking about, and quit trying to be a smart arse? Can't you see that you're just making a fool of yourself?
    I asked you a simple question. I've asked it about five times now. I asked you to provide an example of when Israel has offered peace. So why don't you answer my question? Don't tell me to Google it. You fucking Google it. You claimed that Israel offered peace and I asked you to provide an example. If you can't back-up what you say then quit spouting shit.
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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    mattsl1983 said:

    No twisting facts. Look at the history. It amazes me how much you guys want to ignore history or why and how things happened, but at the same time cherry pick anything that supports your side. It's an ignore/accept mentality, and I don't understand it at all.

    Except you've provided no history at all. You've just spouted a lot of horseshit. Why is that? Why do you have such a hatred of facts? Do you feel threatened by facts? Do facts constitute a threat to the fantasy world you inhabit?
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    edited June 2014
    mattsl1983 said:

    You feel like you know based on the sources and media you follow, and maybe I'm the same, but just different sources.

    Except you haven't provided any sources.

    All you've done is post opinions. Opinions and fantasies. And so far I've countered all of your opinions and fantasies with facts and with source material.
    And yet you continue spouting more gibberish and talk about ' real history', e.t.c.

    When are you gonna provide an example of when Israel offered peace? I've asked you repeatedly to back-up your comment, and yet you're still ducking and evading it. Why is that?
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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    badbrains said:

    I'll bet he'll still find a way of twisting the facts or defending their actions. I've asked many many many times. Why when Israel does something fucked up (like dropping a bomb on a school or dropping a bomb on a UN safe house), no one whoever defends them NEVER come on here and CONDEMS the act? It's always DEAD SILENT. Just a curious question. Is it cuz Israel can do NO WRONG or is it that it's against the Palestinians and their lives ain't worth shit. Can someone please answer that for me. I'd really like to know.

    He doesn't know anything about the Israel/Palestine issue. He's just trying to be a smart arse, like he tried being a smart arse in the Tienanmen Square thread, which is another subject he knows nothing about.

    Anyone can wade into a message board spouting shit and criticizing others for backing up what they say with facts.
    Maybe he thinks someone reading his bullshit will be impressed?
  • mattsl1983
    mattsl1983 Posts: 711
    "I haven't side-stepped anything. Some Palestinians terrorists killed some Israeli hostages at the Olympics. So what? So what does that have to do with anything?"

    That is my point exactly. You are upset about anything you think that Israel does, but anything that Palestinians have done, so what? Right, that doesn't matter, but let's just judge Israel.

    You are a hypocrite. You will defend any action against Israel and dismiss it, but oh no, watch out, any action that Israel takes is just not right.

    I'm not going to sit here and post links amongst links amongst links to justify my point. You've already shown your true colors and how you view the situation.

    "I haven't side-stepped anything. Some Palestinians terrorists killed some Israeli hostages at the Olympics. So what? So what does that have to do with anything?"

    That is just perfect, and sums up why it's pointless to try and have any conversation with you.

    "I haven't side-stepped anything. Some Palestinians terrorists killed some Israeli hostages at the Olympics. So what? So what does that have to do with anything?"

    Just one last time. Seriously, listen to yourself.
  • mattsl1983
    mattsl1983 Posts: 711
    Look at the title of the thread you started. Like seriously, you are upset about Israel terrorism but

    "I haven't side-stepped anything. Some Palestinians terrorists killed some Israeli hostages at the Olympics. So what? So what does that have to do with anything?"

    I just find that hilarious. Nothing like killing some Olympians in a different country, but that's okay. That has nothing to do with anything. That was okay, cause we all know Olympians are just bad people. It's shit like that, and your mentality about it that makes me support Israel more and more. You Palestinian supporters just dismiss any wrong action that y'all have taken.

    "I haven't side-stepped anything. Some Palestinians terrorists killed some Israeli hostages at the Olympics. So what? So what does that have to do with anything?"

    Sorry, just one last time. Such a great quote.
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    mattsl1983 said:

    You are upset about anything you think that Israel does, but anything that Palestinians have done, so what? Right, that doesn't matter, but let's just judge Israel.

    Ah, so now you're resorting to twisting my words. I asked 'So What?' in response to your question about Black September. I asked 'What does that have to do with anything?' I.e, What does it have to do with this thread, or with this discussion? Nothing, that's what. Palestinian terrorism is a symptom of the Israeli occupation, not a cause of it.
    I asked you to explain why you think the Palestinians are responsible for being occupied and for having their land stolen from under their feet. You still haven't answered my question. Why do you support ethnic cleansing? Are you racist?

    mattsl1983 said:

    You are a hypocrite. You will defend any action against Israel and dismiss it, but oh no, watch out, any action that Israel takes is just not right.

    What action against Israel did I defend?
    mattsl1983 said:

    I'm not going to sit here and post links amongst links amongst links to justify my point. You've already shown your true colors and how you view the situation.

    Nobody asked you to post links amongst links amongst links. You made the claim that Israel offered peace and land in '67, '82, 93, '95, 05, and '08. I asked you to provide one example of it offering peace but you haven't, because you can't, because you don't know what you're talking about.
    mattsl1983 said:

    "I haven't side-stepped anything. Some Palestinians terrorists killed some Israeli hostages at the Olympics. So what? So what does that have to do with anything?"

    That is just perfect, and sums up why it's pointless to try and have any conversation with you.

    "I haven't side-stepped anything. Some Palestinians terrorists killed some Israeli hostages at the Olympics. So what? So what does that have to do with anything?"

    Just one last time. Seriously, listen to yourself.

    My question was perfectly legitimate. You chimed into this discussion on the previous page trying to justify and excuse Israel's occupation and ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians. And since then you've been spouting more of the same shit. What does Black September have to do with Israel's occupation and ethnic cleansing? Nothing, other than that it's a symptom of 45 years of oppression and violence. So what?
    What do you think about the Israeli's shooting unarmed children dead? What do you think about Israel shooting unarmed 13 year old schoolgirls dead, and women and children waving white flags? What do you think about the Israeli's bombing residential areas, dropping white phosphorous on residential areas, shooting medical personnel, bombing schools, hospitals, and U.N safe houses, bulldozing houses while the occupants are still inside, shooting peace activists dead - Tom Hurndall, Rachel Corrie - carrying out torture, using Palestinians as human shields, e.t.c.?

  • mattsl1983
    mattsl1983 Posts: 711
    "I haven't side-stepped anything. Some Palestinians terrorists killed some Israeli hostages at the Olympics. So what? So what does that have to do with anything?"

    Nope. That is you and how you feel about it. Don't try and justify your words. Maybe you are better off cherry picking quotes and posting links as opposed to when you actually express something in your own words.
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    edited June 2014
    mattsl1983 said:

    Look at the title of the thread you started. Like seriously, you are upset about Israel terrorism but

    "I haven't side-stepped anything. Some Palestinians terrorists killed some Israeli hostages at the Olympics. So what? So what does that have to do with anything?"

    I just find that hilarious. Nothing like killing some Olympians in a different country, but that's okay. That has nothing to do with anything. That was okay, cause we all know Olympians are just bad people.

    Who said it was o.k? Stop fucking twisting my words. Is that the only way you can win an argument? By twisting the other persons words? Really? Who do you think you're kidding?

    My question was asking what it had to do with the discussion.
    mattsl1983 said:

    It's shit like that, and your mentality about it that makes me support Israel more and more. You Palestinian supporters just dismiss any wrong action that y'all have taken.

    "I haven't side-stepped anything. Some Palestinians terrorists killed some Israeli hostages at the Olympics. So what? So what does that have to do with anything?"

    Sorry, just one last time. Such a great quote.

    You don't even realise that you're making a fool of yourself. Even a ten year old with basic English comprehension could see what my question 'So what?' was asking.

    How old are you? My guess is that you're probably not much older than 10.



  • mattsl1983
    mattsl1983 Posts: 711
    Oh, so now you resort to insults? Damn you make such solid points. I'm glad people like you are limited to internet keyboard idealist.
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