I hate to hear YL...because it means it's over!
but otherwise I actually like it to finish.
Parting Ways would be a good closer too.
What I am sick of is getting Baba or RITFW as second to last all the time.. I don't mind the songs themselves but THEY are now marking the end of the show rather than YL... htat's getting into a routine and I don't like routine :(
Nail on the head, Pegasus. This seems driven down the middle down towards people who think "YL" should remain the closer because it's tradition, and others that are finding the routine setlists and the same old closers a bit stale.
I don't think "Yellow Ledbetter" should be omitted from a concert, but it doesn't need to be the closer, either.
I think album closers make good openers, and the album openers would work well as closers. But what do I know? I'm a fan. If I were compiling setlists this way I'm sure it's fuck everything up. Here guys, here's tonight's setlist:
Disc 1:
01) Yellow Ledbetter
02) Severed Hand (replacing "Baba O'Riley")
03) Comatose (replacing "Fortunate Son")
04) State of Love and Trust (replacing "Know Your Rights")
05) Crazy Mary
06) Breath
07) You've Got to Hide Your Love Away
08) World Wide Suicide (replacing "Encore Break 2")
09) Do the Evolution
10) Bu$hleaguer
11) Glorified G.
12) Elderly Woman Behind the Counter in a Small Town
13) Animal
14) Go
15) Come Back (replacing "Encore Break 1")
16) Man of the Hour (replacing "Rearviewmirror")
17) Daughter
18) Even Flow
19) Jeremy
Disc 2:
20) Encore Break 1
21) All Those Yesterdays [additional]
22) Betterman/Save it For Later
23) You Are
24) I Believe in Miracles
25) Deep
26) Gone (replacing "Insignificance")
27) Love Boat Captain
28) Encore Break 2
29) Immortality
30) Faithfull
31) Gods' Dice
32) Save You
33) Green Disease
34) Corduroy
35) Sometimes
36) Light Years [addition]
I was lazy and hung over, so that morning I just took an old show (6-21-2003) and reversed the order, replacing a few last encore covers and other tracks with more recent material [indicated in parentheses]. Did I earn my per diem? Not really. The first disc is approx. 85 minutes long, the second is 75 minutes long.
Aside from that, I don't know what song could be used to replace "YL" as the final song in the last encore. I think it should be another classic or one of the songs Pearl Jam has written about it's fanbase. I chose "Light Years" for this example. "Man of the Hour" would work just as well.
Seriously, I think if Pearl Jam ever decided to hang it up (and we don't neccessarily want to think about this), that last concert's gonna be the one where the break out "Yellow Ledbetter" as the opener. Beyond the realms of that first song, it will be anyone's guess as to what the band will play and what will come to be the final song that the band performs in public.
It'd be cool to mix it up a bit though, maybe with All Those Yesterdays or Indifference a little more. My first PJ show ended with Act of Love, and that was a thing of beauty.
-long road(maybe the slower/softer version like from groundworks show, but preferably the normal version).
-all those yesterdays(and then jam it out at the end).
-inside job
-come back
-OR, maybe they should find another sort of popular song to cover and close with it. "going to california"?
-but, that being said, as many times as i've heard it, yellow ledbetter is a staple and hearing mike do a solo is a fitting end to a show(just as long as baba is played before or after;)
-one song i wish the they'd bring back to the setlist period is WMA.. the full version, the as a "daughter" tag. i have a feeling matt would have a rough time playing it though from the sounds of his "in my tree" skills. man, sorry to beat a dead horse, but i'd kill to have dave a. back.
Believe me, when I was growin up, I thought the worst thing you could turn out to be was normal, So I say freaks in the most complementary way. Here's a song by a fellow freak - E.V
Seems like a lot of people would rather see another song to for PJ to close a show with than 'Yellow Ledbetter'. I still enjoy but wouldn't mind seeing other songs to close with.
What do you think would be a good replacement for it?
My choices would be 'Gone' or 'Present Tense'
I kinda like Smile as a closer..
..."don't it make you smile..."
..." i miss you already..."
When you're curious, you find lots of interesting things to do...
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Anything other than rockin in the free world. .. i used to love it, i got tired of it after watching it on touring band.
I understand, and I think that's why the thread has taken this path. If the band plays a song at almost every show, people get tired of it and wish they'd close with something other than.
I still don't know if there's code to the end tracks. My crackpot theory again:
"Yellow Ledbetter" - The band considers themselves in top form, and enjoys the venue/city
"Indifference" - The band is disappointed by the lack of enthusiasm by the crowd or limitations of the venue/city.
"Fuckin' Up" - The band has made several mistakes during the set that particular night. This doesn't necessarily mean it's a terrible show, sometimes Pearl Jam's shining moments are when they fuck up and the crowd forgives them in an instant (they are mere mortal men, after all).
For example, San Francisco's closers
SF Night I - "Indifference"; "RITFW"; "Yellow Ledbetter"
SF Night II - "Leash"; "Fuckin' Up"; "Yellow Ledbetter"
SF Night III - "Leash"; "All Along the Watchtower"; "Yellow Ledbetter"
Okay, this city's shows are maybe not the best examples, since "YL" was played at all three shows. But that's there are, at least buried within these second encores, the three typical closers. Is it any coincidence they played "Fuckin' Up" after botching "Sometimes" on Night 2? I know there tenative setlists, but the band is always changing things at the last minute. Does anyone have the setlist for Night 2? Does it indicate "FU" as one of the closers intended that night?
I don't mean that "YL" should be discarded, it is for maybe tens of thousands of fans their favorite Pearl Jam song, but I'm tired of listening it to it at the end of 2/3 of every show. "Smile"? No. Not at all. I don't get tired of listening to "Smile", because they don't play it as often.
Still, people at Night III can't complain after getting "All Along the Watchtower". Throwing out covers like that is always a guaranteed way to please your fans, unless they're asshole who don't know who Dylan or Hendrix.
They cover a few Ramones songs, do great with them; Good covering the late 70s/early 80s, so then I wish they'd listen to some more Jesus & Mary Chain and Replacement records. I'd love to hear them cover some of the more independent bands from the 1980s as well as Rock Classics like "All Along the Watchtower" and "Little Wing". We all generally know where Mike, Stone and Eddie's influences lie, and that Eddie has a goddamn public fetish for The Who or anything Pete Townshend. That's a good thing, though. I really think that without the Who's influence on Vedder, Pearl Jam would've broken up by now, I do. I also think 'Binaural', my least favorite PJ album, was the one that saved their careers and transformed them into something else; something bigger, and better; the Six-Million-Dollar Band!!!
It'd just be interesting to let Stone, Jeff or Mike choose a song to cover to close a night every once in a while, instead of picking A, B, or C (or "Yellow Ledbetter", "R.I.T.F.W.", "Fuckin' Up")... or a combination thereof.
Man, the setlists from the 2004 Vote For Change Tour were AMAZING. They were so good they should have CHANGED the state of the nation and/or world. Anybody else like me that would want to see more sets with songs like those from the 2004 mini-tour?
Ive seen a couple shows close with something other than YL.
It was kinda wierd.
I think its a perfect song to close with.
Mike likes to say "goodnight".
At the end of the song, hes just stading up there by himself while the others watch.
I hope they never replace it.
yeah i can think of some great songs that would be nice to go home to. "All those Yesterdays" or "Around the Bend". but "Yellow Ledbetter" is the classic closing song, it's just a great song to sway side to side and shout out the chorus, which are the only lyrics that anyone can really understand or for that matter are consistent the majority of the time! awww thinking about it makes me want to be a show right now!
It'd be cool to mix it up a bit though, maybe with All Those Yesterdays or Indifference a little more. My first PJ show ended with Act of Love, and that was a thing of beauty.
You know... that's probably the BEST way i've heard YL described.... it's EXACTLY what it's like...
When you're curious, you find lots of interesting things to do...
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Eddie Vedder Solo - Adelaide: 27th & 28th March 2011, Melbourne 16th 2014
I dont like when PJ extends Porch to 9-10 minutes and RVM forever. They kill the whole intensity of the song IMO. The newer version of RVM that I first heard on the 05 boots with the heavier bassline is cool but Porch is best at 6-7mins.
If YL had to go, Baba would get my vote.
agreed on both accounts
closer for adelaide night 1... perfect ending to a killer show, crowd/band were in perfect mood
I think YL is the best song to say godbye. It's kind of "see ya soon" or whatever.. it just has that feeling of "good night, we've had a great time, love ya, we'll be back soon.."
It's just pure beauty.
I don't want to take what you can give
I would rather starve than eat your bread
I would rather run but I can't walk
Guess I'll lie alone just like before
I think YL is alright and is a good song to close with but i have always thought the song that would be the ultimate finish to a show is Alive! I wouldn't mind Release i think that's a good idea and Last Exit as a song with bit more kick for variation but at Melbourne #2 in '03 when they played Alive and the lights in the arena came on the whole place just seemed like one and remains the best Pearl Jam concert moment i've seen in 13 shows.
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okay, that is something i can get behind!
gracie is right; fuck YL. I wanna hear DAYZ.
as you know fanchy, it is the PERFECT closer. it leaves you totally satisfied. that last riff toward the end makes my head explode.
god bless stone carptenter gossard!
That's the riff where we had our "this song is just to FUCKING good!" moment at the Beer Sellar prior to the Cincy '06 show.
DAYZ is awesome.
Nail on the head, Pegasus. This seems driven down the middle down towards people who think "YL" should remain the closer because it's tradition, and others that are finding the routine setlists and the same old closers a bit stale.
I don't think "Yellow Ledbetter" should be omitted from a concert, but it doesn't need to be the closer, either.
I think album closers make good openers, and the album openers would work well as closers. But what do I know? I'm a fan. If I were compiling setlists this way I'm sure it's fuck everything up. Here guys, here's tonight's setlist:
Disc 1:
01) Yellow Ledbetter
02) Severed Hand (replacing "Baba O'Riley")
03) Comatose (replacing "Fortunate Son")
04) State of Love and Trust (replacing "Know Your Rights")
05) Crazy Mary
06) Breath
07) You've Got to Hide Your Love Away
08) World Wide Suicide (replacing "Encore Break 2")
09) Do the Evolution
10) Bu$hleaguer
11) Glorified G.
12) Elderly Woman Behind the Counter in a Small Town
13) Animal
14) Go
15) Come Back (replacing "Encore Break 1")
16) Man of the Hour (replacing "Rearviewmirror")
17) Daughter
18) Even Flow
19) Jeremy
Disc 2:
20) Encore Break 1
21) All Those Yesterdays [additional]
22) Betterman/Save it For Later
23) You Are
24) I Believe in Miracles
25) Deep
26) Gone (replacing "Insignificance")
27) Love Boat Captain
28) Encore Break 2
29) Immortality
30) Faithfull
31) Gods' Dice
32) Save You
33) Green Disease
34) Corduroy
35) Sometimes
36) Light Years [addition]
I was lazy and hung over, so that morning I just took an old show (6-21-2003) and reversed the order, replacing a few last encore covers and other tracks with more recent material [indicated in parentheses]. Did I earn my per diem? Not really. The first disc is approx. 85 minutes long, the second is 75 minutes long.
Aside from that, I don't know what song could be used to replace "YL" as the final song in the last encore. I think it should be another classic or one of the songs Pearl Jam has written about it's fanbase. I chose "Light Years" for this example. "Man of the Hour" would work just as well.
Seriously, I think if Pearl Jam ever decided to hang it up (and we don't neccessarily want to think about this), that last concert's gonna be the one where the break out "Yellow Ledbetter" as the opener. Beyond the realms of that first song, it will be anyone's guess as to what the band will play and what will come to be the final song that the band performs in public.
with everyone just hammerring at the end of it
for a more gentle one i alwayts though imortality would go down well
20/04/06 - The Astoria alley crew + got to shake Ed's hand
25/04/06 -Jools Show + got Mike's autograph
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...Three crooked hearts and swirls all around...
It'd be cool to mix it up a bit though, maybe with All Those Yesterdays or Indifference a little more. My first PJ show ended with Act of Love, and that was a thing of beauty.
Also present tense, indifference, and parting ways would all make me happy.
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I love YL being the last song!!! I FEAR CHANGE
-all those yesterdays(and then jam it out at the end).
-inside job
-come back
-OR, maybe they should find another sort of popular song to cover and close with it. "going to california"?
-but, that being said, as many times as i've heard it, yellow ledbetter is a staple and hearing mike do a solo is a fitting end to a show(just as long as baba is played before or after;)
-one song i wish the they'd bring back to the setlist period is WMA.. the full version, the as a "daughter" tag. i have a feeling matt would have a rough time playing it though from the sounds of his "in my tree" skills. man, sorry to beat a dead horse, but i'd kill to have dave a. back.
I agree, wma is a lost classic. i
t definately needs more play time.
It is so powerful live.
Present Tense
Inside Job
Hard to Imagine
All Those Yesterdays
Smile
Breathe
and YL-once in a while
Inside Job
But honestly, YLB is perfect.
Nothing changes...torture then reward
torture then reward...torture then reward,
follows torture...follows reward....
for me personally my all time favourite PJ song "Breath" would be my dream closer
08/02/07 - LOLLA!!!
I kinda like Smile as a closer..
..."don't it make you smile..."
..." i miss you already..."
Pearl Jam - Adelaide: 1995, 1998, 2003, 2006, 2009, 2014
Eddie Vedder Solo - Adelaide: 27th & 28th March 2011, Melbourne 16th 2014
Pearl Jam - Adelaide: 1995, 1998, 2003, 2006, 2009, 2014
Eddie Vedder Solo - Adelaide: 27th & 28th March 2011, Melbourne 16th 2014
Anything other than rockin in the free world. .. i used to love it, i got tired of it after watching it on touring band.
I understand, and I think that's why the thread has taken this path. If the band plays a song at almost every show, people get tired of it and wish they'd close with something other than.
I still don't know if there's code to the end tracks. My crackpot theory again:
"Yellow Ledbetter" - The band considers themselves in top form, and enjoys the venue/city
"Indifference" - The band is disappointed by the lack of enthusiasm by the crowd or limitations of the venue/city.
"Fuckin' Up" - The band has made several mistakes during the set that particular night. This doesn't necessarily mean it's a terrible show, sometimes Pearl Jam's shining moments are when they fuck up and the crowd forgives them in an instant (they are mere mortal men, after all).
For example, San Francisco's closers
SF Night I - "Indifference"; "RITFW"; "Yellow Ledbetter"
SF Night II - "Leash"; "Fuckin' Up"; "Yellow Ledbetter"
SF Night III - "Leash"; "All Along the Watchtower"; "Yellow Ledbetter"
Okay, this city's shows are maybe not the best examples, since "YL" was played at all three shows. But that's there are, at least buried within these second encores, the three typical closers. Is it any coincidence they played "Fuckin' Up" after botching "Sometimes" on Night 2? I know there tenative setlists, but the band is always changing things at the last minute. Does anyone have the setlist for Night 2? Does it indicate "FU" as one of the closers intended that night?
I don't mean that "YL" should be discarded, it is for maybe tens of thousands of fans their favorite Pearl Jam song, but I'm tired of listening it to it at the end of 2/3 of every show. "Smile"? No. Not at all. I don't get tired of listening to "Smile", because they don't play it as often.
Still, people at Night III can't complain after getting "All Along the Watchtower". Throwing out covers like that is always a guaranteed way to please your fans, unless they're asshole who don't know who Dylan or Hendrix.
They cover a few Ramones songs, do great with them; Good covering the late 70s/early 80s, so then I wish they'd listen to some more Jesus & Mary Chain and Replacement records. I'd love to hear them cover some of the more independent bands from the 1980s as well as Rock Classics like "All Along the Watchtower" and "Little Wing". We all generally know where Mike, Stone and Eddie's influences lie, and that Eddie has a goddamn public fetish for The Who or anything Pete Townshend. That's a good thing, though. I really think that without the Who's influence on Vedder, Pearl Jam would've broken up by now, I do. I also think 'Binaural', my least favorite PJ album, was the one that saved their careers and transformed them into something else; something bigger, and better; the Six-Million-Dollar Band!!!
It'd just be interesting to let Stone, Jeff or Mike choose a song to cover to close a night every once in a while, instead of picking A, B, or C (or "Yellow Ledbetter", "R.I.T.F.W.", "Fuckin' Up")... or a combination thereof.
Man, the setlists from the 2004 Vote For Change Tour were AMAZING. They were so good they should have CHANGED the state of the nation and/or world. Anybody else like me that would want to see more sets with songs like those from the 2004 mini-tour?
That is exactly my thoughts right there.
2000 : 9/4
2003 : 7/1
2006 : 5/30
2007 : 8/5
2008 : 6/17; 6/19; 6/20; 6/22; 6/24; 6/25; 8/16 (EV); 8/21 (EV); 8/22 (EV)
2009 : 6/11 (EV); 6/12 (EV); 8/23; 8/24; 10/27; 10/28; 10/30; 10/31
2010 : 5/13
2012 : 9/2; 9/21; 11/27 (EV); 11/28 (EV)
You know... that's probably the BEST way i've heard YL described.... it's EXACTLY what it's like...
Pearl Jam - Adelaide: 1995, 1998, 2003, 2006, 2009, 2014
Eddie Vedder Solo - Adelaide: 27th & 28th March 2011, Melbourne 16th 2014
agreed on both accounts
closer for adelaide night 1... perfect ending to a killer show, crowd/band were in perfect mood
It's just pure beauty.
I would rather starve than eat your bread
I would rather run but I can't walk
Guess I'll lie alone just like before
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