Saying that Ahmadinejad didn't say "wipe off the map" is the same shit as saying Obama was talking about roads when he said "you didn't build that"
Very simple minded for those who don't get the point
sigh...
Ok, fine, I'll bite. I know you are beyond convincing, but perhaps there are others who like to listen to facts and sound reason.
In my view, the term "wipe off the map" is just a foolish idiom developed by pro-Zionist propagandists to make everyone scared--this is not an idiom that exists in the Persian language. Despite that, I don't believe that this is where the major contention lies. I think the major point to be emphasized is that Ahmadinejad did not simply refer to 'Israel' as a country, but to the 'Zionist regime.' The problem with many people in America is they do not realize the way people in the Arab/Muslim world view Zionism. This is because Zionists have spend decades up until now successfully convincing many Americans that Zionism is inherently apart of Judaism and the Jewish people. Thus, it no longer becomes simply a political ideology, but an inherent right to all Jews, equal to that of their right to practice religion anywhere freely, to live their lives, etc etc. This is due to the so-called 'Right of Self-Determination' that can be traced back to the time of Woodrow Wilson and his failure of the 'League of Nations.' What is interesting about the idea of self-determination is that Zionists use it as an argument to justify the creation of a state on their own in Palestine. Ironically they do this while ignoring the rights of the Palestinian native population to recognize their right to self-determination as well. What is more interesting is that Zionists do not simply call for a state as the Palestinians do--one that is inclusive to all--but rather a Jewish state.
Thus, this Jewish-Zionist state has no place for Palestinians in it. If you disagree, look up the Nakba (Plan Dalet) circa 1947-1948 when the Zionist terrorist groups who later went on to form what you now call the Israeli Army, literally, expelled hundreds of thousands of Palestinians from their homes through the use of terror. This is because in their form of 'self-determination', there was no place for a Palestinian native population. Unfortunately for the Zionists, they could not get rid of all the Palestinians, which is why Palestinians living in Israel currently enjoy good old-fashioned second-class citizenship. Furthermore, the Palestinians living in those territories occupied after the June 1967 war live in even worse conditions. The nature that Israel conducts itself in the West Bank (Jewish-only roads, a separation wall that isolates the Palestinian population, checkpoints, etc) speaks volumes as to how the Israeli government sees the Palestinians and the Israelis as distinct. Considering how much Americans pride themselves in the fact that our government distinguishes no one based on ethnicity, it's shocking to the conscious to see so many Americans ally themselves with the Zionist ideology, that advocates such measures taken by the Israeli governments over the past several decades, by the inclusion of there being a 'Jewish State', as opposed to simply a 'State for Jews' in which all can live equally without there being distinctions.
Ultimately, while I do not speak for Ahmadinejad, Arabs and Muslims do not claim to want to expel the Jews from the land of Palestine, or as Zionist propagandists would have you believe, push them into the sea. They do however want to dismantle the Zionist regime--and by this they refer to the racist ideology dominating Israeli governments. Supposedly, the removal of the Saddam regime did not mean the destruction of Iraq (that was just an accident, right?). However, the Zionist paranoia that has infested America that somehow the Arab/Muslim world will together kill the millions of Jews is sheer nonsense. This is a war of ideologies, and the Zionist ideology is a stubborn one. As all racist ideologies are.
very well states. thanks for posting this.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
Millions of Iranians, chanting “Death to Israel,” took to the streets in major cities to mark Jerusalem Day, FARS news agency reported.
The late Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, founder of the Islamic Republic, designated the last Friday of the Muslim fasting month of Ramadan as Jerusalem Day, known as Quds Day in Iran. The agency said those taking part in today’s rallies voiced Iran’s readiness to “defend the ideals of Palestine and remove the cancerous tumor,” a reference to Israel, “from the face of the world.”
And our ally, Israel can try to live in peace in this cruel, evil world of hate and terror
Says the person frothing at the mouth at the prospect of another war, and of more death and destruction (from the comfort of his armchair).
nope, just being real. you should try it.
1. Three months ago: US moves two squadrons of our top figher, the F-22 which has never left US shores to Oman.
2. Three weeks ago: US moves a second carrier group, plus mine sweepers into the Persian Gulf. That's a lot of fire power.
3. Three weeks ago: US moves nuclear subs into the Persian Gulf for the very first time. That's even more fire power.
4. Last week: Iran's supreme leader (no not Akmedinajab) but the crazy cleric, announces that Iran will soon wipe Israel off the map and that their new missiles have a 1200 mile range.
5. 4 days ago: Israel announces Iran has enough nuclear material for 5 atomic bombs.
6. 3 days ago, the Israeli Home Defense Minister brings the press in for a briefing: He tells them:
a. The decision has been made to Bomb Iran.
b. It will happen sometime in the next three months.
c. The Israeli Defense Minister will decide on the exact time. He will not tell the US when (like our Senators he's afraid of security leaks).
d. Israel expects the war to last 30 days.e. He gave the press a casuality count/expectation.
Conventional wisdom says: The Israelis bomb before the election if they think Obama will win. After the election if they think Romney will win. Their reasoning is obvious.
i'm not buying it....israel has the best air force in the region and arguably the world. i would think they could take care of the iranian nuke issue themselves. but i think that this is just propaganda to try to get the us involved in any potential strike.... and notice how the ignorant author makes reference to the debunked lie that iran is calling for the destruction of israel... :fp:
Israeli opposition: Solo Iran strike ineffective
JERUSALEM (AP) — Israel's opposition leader Shaul Mofaz says an Israeli strike on Iran's nuclear sites would be ineffective without U.S. support.
Mofaz, a former military chief, spoke Saturday to Israeli TV after heightened chatter over a possible Israeli strike against Iran's nuclear program.
"Israel cannot strategically change the Iranian nuclear program," Mofaz said.
He said without U.S. support a strike would be a "disaster" that would only delay Iran's nuclear plans.
Washington has vowed military action to stop Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons but has warned Israel against acting early, insisting sanctions should be given more time.
Israel views Iran as an existential threat due to its nuclear and missile programs, support for violent anti-Israeli groups in Lebanon and Gaza as well as repeated references by Iranian leaders to Israel's destruction.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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if you want to have a serious conversation about it that is fine. but if you want to troll and just piss people off, that is not fine.
Come on. Seriously? You've never done that? GMAFB.
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.” Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.
In any case, both poll results are a far cry from "Most Americans now see Israel for what it is, a dangerous racist state." So stop putting your words in our mouths.
Nope, not putting words in anyone's mouths. Most Americans now see Israel for what it is, a dangerous racist state. Those with their eyes open, that is.
Norman Finkelstein - 'Knowing Too Much: Why The American Romance With Israel Is Coming To An End'
P.20: A 2007 BBC global poll of attitudes towards 12 major nations found that Israel had the most negative image; a 2008 BBC poll ranked Israel second from the bottom (slightly above Iran); a 2009 BBC poll found that "the largest number of countries - 19 out of 21 - gave negative ratings to Israel"; a majority of respondents in a 2010 global poll believed that, alongside Iran and Pakistan, Israel exerted a mainly negative influence on World affairs...'
P.21: In keeping with global trends, the most recent surveys suggest that American support for Israel is on a precipitous decline. A 2009 poll by the U.S-based Israel Project found that American voters calling themselves supporters of Israel plummeted in just nine months from 70 percent to 50 percent, while voters beleiving that the U.S should support Israel dropped from 70 percent to 45 percent.
you are making a mockery of a situation that a lot of people care a great deal about, and it is not cool.
if you want to have a serious conversation about it that is fine. but if you want to troll and just piss people off, that is not fine.
No, you are making a mockery of this message board, and you are constantly pissing a lot of people here off. And If I were a member of the band whose name this message board represents I'd be fucking embarrassed to read the trolling, hateful shit you keep spouting.
War mongering, racism, and juvenile trolling, are not what this band or it's fans are all about.
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you are making a mockery of a situation that a lot of people care a great deal about, and it is not cool.
if you want to have a serious conversation about it that is fine. but if you want to troll and just piss people off, that is not fine.
No, you are making a mockery of this message board, and you are constantly pissing a lot of people here off. And If I were a member of the band whose name this message board represents I'd be fucking embarrassed to read the trolling, hateful shit you keep spouting.
War mongering, racism, and juvenile trolling, are not what this band or it's fans are all about.
I second that, Byrnzie. Totally.
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.” Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.
I think I might go and join a Bob Marley fan club message board and post endless quotes by people such as Enoch Powell, and David Duke, declare my love of The National Front, and the English Defence League, and post pictures of blacks hanging from trees, and lyrics by the racist band Screwdriver.
Just to fuck with people, bait them, and insult everything his fans might stand for, or respect.
And when some of Bob Marley's fan club posters deem me worthy enough to reply to my incessant bullshit and try to engage me in some sort of reasoned debate, I'll just laugh at them from behind my computer screen, and then post a silly internet picture of Haile Selassie dressed as a Klan member with the caption: 'If ya can't beat 'em, join 'em'.
I think I might go and join a Bob Marley fan club message board and post endless quotes by people such as Enoch Powell, and David Duke, declare my love of The National Front, and the English Defence League, and post pictures of blacks hanging from trees, and lyrics by the racist band Screwdriver.
Just to fuck with people, bait them, and insult everything his fans might stand for, or respect.
And when some of Bob Marley's fan club posters deem me worthy enough to reply to my incessant bullshit and try to engage me in some sort of reasoned debate, I'll just laugh at them from behind my computer screen, and then post a silly internet picture of Haile Selassie dressed as a Klan member with the caption: 'If ya can't beat 'em, join 'em'.
I think I might go and join a Bob Marley fan club message board and post endless quotes by people such as Enoch Powell, and David Duke, declare my love of The National Front, and the English Defence League, and post pictures of blacks hanging from trees, and lyrics by the racist band Screwdriver.
Just to fuck with people, bait them, and insult everything his fans might stand for, or respect.
And when some of Bob Marley's fan club posters deem me worthy enough to reply to my incessant bullshit and try to engage me in some sort of reasoned debate, I'll just laugh at them from behind my computer screen, and then post a silly internet picture of Haile Selassie dressed as a Klan member with the caption: 'If ya can't beat 'em, join 'em'.
'Coz that's the kind of guy I am.
So uncalled for.
I disagree. Satire is the only way to respond to some people.
Anyway, carry on.
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I think I might go and join a Bob Marley fan club message board and post endless quotes by people such as Enoch Powell, and David Duke, declare my love of The National Front, and the English Defence League, and post pictures of blacks hanging from trees, and lyrics by the racist band Screwdriver.
Just to fuck with people, bait them, and insult everything his fans might stand for, or respect.
And when some of Bob Marley's fan club posters deem me worthy enough to reply to my incessant bullshit and try to engage me in some sort of reasoned debate, I'll just laugh at them from behind my computer screen, and then post a silly internet picture of Haile Selassie dressed as a Klan member with the caption: 'If ya can't beat 'em, join 'em'.
'Coz that's the kind of guy I am.
So uncalled for.
I've done the same thing before: Type, hit "post", read, gasp, then hit "edit", then "preview", retype then "post". Don't you hate it when that happens?
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.” Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.
I think I might go and join a Bob Marley fan club message board and post endless quotes by people such as Enoch Powell, and David Duke, declare my love of The National Front, and the English Defence League, and post pictures of blacks hanging from trees, and lyrics by the racist band Screwdriver.
Just to fuck with people, bait them, and insult everything his fans might stand for, or respect.
And when some of Bob Marley's fan club posters deem me worthy enough to reply to my incessant bullshit and try to engage me in some sort of reasoned debate, I'll just laugh at them from behind my computer screen, and then post a silly internet picture of Haile Selassie dressed as a Klan member with the caption: 'If ya can't beat 'em, join 'em'.
'Coz that's the kind of guy I am.
So uncalled for.
I've done the same thing before: Type, hit "post", read, gasp, then hit "edit", then "preview", retype then "post". Don't you hate it when that happens?
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you are making a mockery of a situation that a lot of people care a great deal about, and it is not cool.
if you want to have a serious conversation about it that is fine. but if you want to troll and just piss people off, that is not fine.
No, you are making a mockery of this message board, and you are constantly pissing a lot of people here off. And If I were a member of the band whose name this message board represents I'd be fucking embarrassed to read the trolling, hateful shit you keep spouting.
War mongering, racism, and juvenile trolling, are not what this band or it's fans are all about.
TEHRAN, Iran – Israel's existence is an "insult to all humanity," Iran's president said Friday in one of his sharpest attacks yet against the Jewish state, as Israel openly debates whether to attack Iran over its nuclear program.
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said confronting Israel is an effort to "protect the dignity of all human beings."
"The existence of the Zionist regime is an insult to all humanity," Ahmadinejad said. He was addressing worshippers at Tehran University after nationwide pro-Palestinian rallies, an annual event marking Quds (Jerusalem) Day on the last Friday of the holy month of Ramadan. The comments are "reminiscent" of a letter written about the Jews and signed by Adolf Hitler in 1919, Rabbi Marvin Hier, Founder and Dean of the Simon Wisenthal Center, says. "Even though Ahmadinejad is attacking the state of Israel, we know what he means," Rabbi Hier said. Israel considers Iran an existential threat because of its nuclear and missile programs, support for radical anti-Israel groups on its borders and repeated references by Iranian leaders to Israel's destruction.
Ahmadinejad himself has repeatedly made such calls, as has Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.
Rabbi Hier compares Ahmadinejad's comments to the notion found in Hitler’s letter referencing the "removal of Jews all together." "Twenty-two years later he implemented everything, and the same is true about Ahmadinejad," Rabbi Hier said.
"We assume it's only rhetoric, but we once paid a very high price for assuming Hitler was talking rhetoric," he said.
The leader of the Lebanese Shiite militant Hezbollah, which has ties to Iran, says his group will transform the lives of millions of Israelis to "hell" if Israel attacks Lebanon.
Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah says the group has a list of Israeli targets that it can hit with few rockets.
"We can transform the lives of millions of Zionists in occupied Palestine to a real hell," he said.
Israel and Hezbollah fought a deadly, inconclusive monthlong war in 2006, when Hezbollah fired about 4,000 rockets at Israel.
Iran has denied allegations that it is seeking to build nuclear weapons, saying its nuclear program is peaceful and aimed at producing electricity and radioisotopes used to treat cancer patients.
Israel has been carrying on an increasingly public debate about whether to attack Iran's nuclear facilities. Israel's official position is to favor diplomatic and economic measures to persuade Iran to halt its uranium enrichment program, but Israel insists that Iran must not be allowed to obtain nuclear weapons. Israeli leaders say "all options are on the table," a clear reference to a military strike, if they determine that other measures have failed.
"You are not going to make a deal with the Iranians, not under their current leadership," Rabbi Hier said.
Iran has warned it would hit back at Israel if it is attacked, also threatening to strike at American interests in the region.
Ahmadinejad called Israel "a corrupt, anti-human organized minority group standing up to all divine values."
"Today, confronting the existence of the fabricated Zionist regime is in fact protecting the rights and dignity of all human beings," said Ahmadinejad, with a black and white scarf many Palestinians wear around his neck.
Iran and Israel have been bitter enemies for decades. Khamenei has called Israel a "cancerous tumor" that must be wiped out. "This is a threat to wipe out the state of Israel," Rabbi Hier said. "We should take these people at their word."
Tensions between Iran and Israel have intensified since 2005, when Ahmadinejad said in a speech that Israel will one day be "wiped off the map."
But Rabbi Hier said he does not "subscribe at all with those who say this is a legitimate form of rhetoric."
"The only way to stop what's happening in Iran is for at least the United States and her allies to say, 'How long are we going to sit by and take this threat?'" he said. The Iranian president has also described the Holocaust, when 6 million Jews were killed by German Nazis and their collaborators during World War II, as a "myth."
"Most intellectuals in 1939 and 1938 did not think Hitler was serious, they thought they knew better, but they didn't know better, and we paid a dear price that we were not on the right side of history," he said.
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
Israel's existence is an "insult to all humanity," Iran's president said Friday in one of his sharpest attacks yet against the Jewish state, as Israel openly debates whether to attack Iran over its nuclear program.
"The existence of the Zionist regime is an insult to all humanity," Ahmadinejad said.
That's funny, because in the first sentence it states the Iranian President said that Israel's existence is an "insult to all humanity" - though note the position of the quotation marks.
And then in the next sentence, where the quotation marks are repositioned to include the full sentence, it shows that Ahmadinejad said "The existence of the Zionist regime is an insult to all humanity".
So the article - which you've not provided any link for - basically contradicts itself.
"Even though Ahmadinejad is attacking the state of Israel, we know what he means," Rabbi Hier said.
Yeah, sure. Rabbi Hier is a Jewish American. I wonder if he understands Arabic? Or does his understanding of World events come from Fox News, like so many people around here?
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Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad told a rally in Tehran that he hopes for "a new Middle East, with no memory of the American or Zionist presence." The Zionist regime, he added, is "a malignant cancer, an insult to humanity." And Gen. Amir Ali Hajizadeh, head of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards' aerial corps, said he would welcome an Israeli attack, because it would allow his country to "get rid of Israel forever" in
response.
We won't let that happen. With that kind of rhetoric, Iran is just asking for a preemptive attack. Sad.
I deal with a company in Israel through my work and for the most part they are jerks.. I don't like to stereotype, but they perfectly fit the given typical Jewish stereotypes.
So, from my experience, not a fan of Israel. Don't really care if they were considered my ally. I don't like to group or stereotype because I am an individualist, but there's something in that society or maybe just the group I deal with that leaves a sour taste.
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad told a rally in Tehran that he hopes for "a new Middle East, with no memory of the American or Zionist presence." The Zionist regime, he added, is "a malignant cancer, an insult to humanity." And Gen. Amir Ali Hajizadeh, head of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards' aerial corps, said he would welcome an Israeli attack, because it would allow his country to "get rid of Israel forever" in
response.
We won't let that happen. With that kind of rhetoric, Iran is just asking for a preemptive attack. Sad.
If Israel attacks first, Iran has every right to counter attack, agree with their ways or not.
Please, elaborate on the stereotypes you don't like to do that you just did.
Horrible customer service, cheap.. Spend 500k+ on their equipment, but don't expect much help or support if it breaks.. And they leave the US support team in the dark on technical issues.. Just my personal experience. Can't say for all.
Please, elaborate on the stereotypes you don't like to do that you just did.
What? Are you so giddy with excitement at the prospect of another war - a war you won't be participating in - that you've lost your grip on the English language?
Please, what war that you won't do will you like that I won't did when you stereotype.
(CNN) – Mitt Romney’s newly minted running mate Rep. Paul Ryan waded into Middle East policy for the first time on Friday in Virginia, affirming the Republican ticket’s support for Israel following reports that Iran’s president called the United States’ ally a “cancerous tumor.”
“Let me be really clear. Under President Romney, our adversaries will think twice about challenging America and our allies because we believe in peace through strength,” said Ryan. “There will be no daylight between America and our friends around the world.”
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad told a rally in Tehran that he hopes for "a new Middle East, with no memory of the American or Zionist presence." The Zionist regime, he added, is "a malignant cancer, an insult to humanity." And Gen. Amir Ali Hajizadeh, head of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards' aerial corps, said he would welcome an Israeli attack, because it would allow his country to "get rid of Israel forever" in
response.
We won't let that happen. With that kind of rhetoric, Iran is just asking for a preemptive attack. Sad.
So you're trying to pretend that It's Iran that's guitly of sabre-rattling, and not the two countries that have spent the past five or more years threatening to attack Iran?
Yep, I'm sure you'll convince a lot of people with that topsy-turvy bullshit.
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"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
The late Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, founder of the Islamic Republic, designated the last Friday of the Muslim fasting month of Ramadan as Jerusalem Day, known as Quds Day in Iran. The agency said those taking part in today’s rallies voiced Iran’s readiness to “defend the ideals of Palestine and remove the cancerous tumor,” a reference to Israel, “from the face of the world.”
nope, just being real. you should try it.
1. Three months ago: US moves two squadrons of our top figher, the F-22 which has never left US shores to Oman.
2. Three weeks ago: US moves a second carrier group, plus mine sweepers into the Persian Gulf. That's a lot of fire power.
3. Three weeks ago: US moves nuclear subs into the Persian Gulf for the very first time. That's even more fire power.
4. Last week: Iran's supreme leader (no not Akmedinajab) but the crazy cleric, announces that Iran will soon wipe Israel off the map and that their new missiles have a 1200 mile range.
5. 4 days ago: Israel announces Iran has enough nuclear material for 5 atomic bombs.
6. 3 days ago, the Israeli Home Defense Minister brings the press in for a briefing: He tells them:
a. The decision has been made to Bomb Iran.
b. It will happen sometime in the next three months.
c. The Israeli Defense Minister will decide on the exact time. He will not tell the US when (like our Senators he's afraid of security leaks).
d. Israel expects the war to last 30 days.e. He gave the press a casuality count/expectation.
Conventional wisdom says: The Israelis bomb before the election if they think Obama will win. After the election if they think Romney will win. Their reasoning is obvious.
Israeli opposition: Solo Iran strike ineffective
JERUSALEM (AP) — Israel's opposition leader Shaul Mofaz says an Israeli strike on Iran's nuclear sites would be ineffective without U.S. support.
Mofaz, a former military chief, spoke Saturday to Israeli TV after heightened chatter over a possible Israeli strike against Iran's nuclear program.
"Israel cannot strategically change the Iranian nuclear program," Mofaz said.
He said without U.S. support a strike would be a "disaster" that would only delay Iran's nuclear plans.
Washington has vowed military action to stop Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons but has warned Israel against acting early, insisting sanctions should be given more time.
Israel views Iran as an existential threat due to its nuclear and missile programs, support for violent anti-Israeli groups in Lebanon and Gaza as well as repeated references by Iranian leaders to Israel's destruction.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
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if you want to have a serious conversation about it that is fine. but if you want to troll and just piss people off, that is not fine.
Come on. Seriously? You've never done that? GMAFB.
Nope, not putting words in anyone's mouths. Most Americans now see Israel for what it is, a dangerous racist state. Those with their eyes open, that is.
Norman Finkelstein - 'Knowing Too Much: Why The American Romance With Israel Is Coming To An End'
P.20: A 2007 BBC global poll of attitudes towards 12 major nations found that Israel had the most negative image; a 2008 BBC poll ranked Israel second from the bottom (slightly above Iran); a 2009 BBC poll found that "the largest number of countries - 19 out of 21 - gave negative ratings to Israel"; a majority of respondents in a 2010 global poll believed that, alongside Iran and Pakistan, Israel exerted a mainly negative influence on World affairs...'
P.21: In keeping with global trends, the most recent surveys suggest that American support for Israel is on a precipitous decline. A 2009 poll by the U.S-based Israel Project found that American voters calling themselves supporters of Israel plummeted in just nine months from 70 percent to 50 percent, while voters beleiving that the U.S should support Israel dropped from 70 percent to 45 percent.
No, you are making a mockery of this message board, and you are constantly pissing a lot of people here off. And If I were a member of the band whose name this message board represents I'd be fucking embarrassed to read the trolling, hateful shit you keep spouting.
War mongering, racism, and juvenile trolling, are not what this band or it's fans are all about.
I second that, Byrnzie. Totally.
Just to fuck with people, bait them, and insult everything his fans might stand for, or respect.
And when some of Bob Marley's fan club posters deem me worthy enough to reply to my incessant bullshit and try to engage me in some sort of reasoned debate, I'll just laugh at them from behind my computer screen, and then post a silly internet picture of Haile Selassie dressed as a Klan member with the caption: 'If ya can't beat 'em, join 'em'.
'Coz that's the kind of guy I am.
So uncalled for.
I disagree. Satire is the only way to respond to some people.
Anyway, carry on.
I've done the same thing before: Type, hit "post", read, gasp, then hit "edit", then "preview", retype then "post". Don't you hate it when that happens?
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you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
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Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said confronting Israel is an effort to "protect the dignity of all human beings."
"The existence of the Zionist regime is an insult to all humanity," Ahmadinejad said. He was addressing worshippers at Tehran University after nationwide pro-Palestinian rallies, an annual event marking Quds (Jerusalem) Day on the last Friday of the holy month of Ramadan.
The comments are "reminiscent" of a letter written about the Jews and signed by Adolf Hitler in 1919, Rabbi Marvin Hier, Founder and Dean of the Simon Wisenthal Center, says.
"Even though Ahmadinejad is attacking the state of Israel, we know what he means," Rabbi Hier said.
Israel considers Iran an existential threat because of its nuclear and missile programs, support for radical anti-Israel groups on its borders and repeated references by Iranian leaders to Israel's destruction.
Ahmadinejad himself has repeatedly made such calls, as has Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.
Rabbi Hier compares Ahmadinejad's comments to the notion found in Hitler’s letter referencing the "removal of Jews all together." "Twenty-two years later he implemented everything, and the same is true about Ahmadinejad," Rabbi Hier said.
"We assume it's only rhetoric, but we once paid a very high price for assuming Hitler was talking rhetoric," he said.
The leader of the Lebanese Shiite militant Hezbollah, which has ties to Iran, says his group will transform the lives of millions of Israelis to "hell" if Israel attacks Lebanon.
Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah says the group has a list of Israeli targets that it can hit with few rockets.
"We can transform the lives of millions of Zionists in occupied Palestine to a real hell," he said.
Israel and Hezbollah fought a deadly, inconclusive monthlong war in 2006, when Hezbollah fired about 4,000 rockets at Israel.
Iran has denied allegations that it is seeking to build nuclear weapons, saying its nuclear program is peaceful and aimed at producing electricity and radioisotopes used to treat cancer patients.
Israel has been carrying on an increasingly public debate about whether to attack Iran's nuclear facilities. Israel's official position is to favor diplomatic and economic measures to persuade Iran to halt its uranium enrichment program, but Israel insists that Iran must not be allowed to obtain nuclear weapons. Israeli leaders say "all options are on the table," a clear reference to a military strike, if they determine that other measures have failed.
"You are not going to make a deal with the Iranians, not under their current leadership," Rabbi Hier said.
Iran has warned it would hit back at Israel if it is attacked, also threatening to strike at American interests in the region.
Ahmadinejad called Israel "a corrupt, anti-human organized minority group standing up to all divine values."
"Today, confronting the existence of the fabricated Zionist regime is in fact protecting the rights and dignity of all human beings," said Ahmadinejad, with a black and white scarf many Palestinians wear around his neck.
Iran and Israel have been bitter enemies for decades. Khamenei has called Israel a "cancerous tumor" that must be wiped out.
"This is a threat to wipe out the state of Israel," Rabbi Hier said. "We should take these people at their word."
Tensions between Iran and Israel have intensified since 2005, when Ahmadinejad said in a speech that Israel will one day be "wiped off the map."
But Rabbi Hier said he does not "subscribe at all with those who say this is a legitimate form of rhetoric."
"The only way to stop what's happening in Iran is for at least the United States and her allies to say, 'How long are we going to sit by and take this threat?'" he said.
The Iranian president has also described the Holocaust, when 6 million Jews were killed by German Nazis and their collaborators during World War II, as a "myth."
"Most intellectuals in 1939 and 1938 did not think Hitler was serious, they thought they knew better, but they didn't know better, and we paid a dear price that we were not on the right side of history," he said.
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
That's funny, because in the first sentence it states the Iranian President said that Israel's existence is an "insult to all humanity" - though note the position of the quotation marks.
And then in the next sentence, where the quotation marks are repositioned to include the full sentence, it shows that Ahmadinejad said "The existence of the Zionist regime is an insult to all humanity".
So the article - which you've not provided any link for - basically contradicts itself.
Yeah, sure. Rabbi Hier is a Jewish American. I wonder if he understands Arabic? Or does his understanding of World events come from Fox News, like so many people around here?
Keep up the war mongering, usamamasan1.
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We won't let that happen. With that kind of rhetoric, Iran is just asking for a preemptive attack. Sad.
So, from my experience, not a fan of Israel. Don't really care if they were considered my ally. I don't like to group or stereotype because I am an individualist, but there's something in that society or maybe just the group I deal with that leaves a sour taste.
Let them duke it out I guess. Its just humans being stupid.
What? Are you so giddy with excitement at the prospect of another war - a war you won't be participating in - that you've lost your grip on the English language?
Please, what war that you won't do will you like that I won't did when you stereotype.
“Let me be really clear. Under President Romney, our adversaries will think twice about challenging America and our allies because we believe in peace through strength,” said Ryan. “There will be no daylight between America and our friends around the world.”
That's what I'm saying.
So you're trying to pretend that It's Iran that's guitly of sabre-rattling, and not the two countries that have spent the past five or more years threatening to attack Iran?
Yep, I'm sure you'll convince a lot of people with that topsy-turvy bullshit.
Because its a desert.. And it's fucking hot.
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