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Israel, our ally.

usamamasan1usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
edited November 2012 in A Moving Train
AMT,

It was a deeply moving experience to be in Jerusalem, the capital of Israel, last week.

You can't get much closer to the ideals and convictions of the United States than you do in Israel. We're part of the great fellowship of democracies. We speak the same language of freedom and justice and believe in the right of every person to live in peace.

The story of how America -- a nation still so new to the world by the standards of this ancient region -- rose up to become the dear friend of the people of Israel is among the finest and most hopeful in our nation's history. Israel and America are in many respects reflections of one another, and I am happy America has such a great friend and ally.

Check out my new video on Israel, our ally: https://secure.mittromney.com/donate/a-cherished-ally

Thanks,

Mitt Romney




WOOT
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  • Prince Of DorknessPrince Of Dorkness Posts: 3,763
    That is such a pathetic croc of Santorum.

    How can anyone fall for that crap?

    :fp:
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  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    What a shameless jackass.
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    usamamasan1 wrote:
    We speak the same language of freedom and justice and believe in the right of every person to live in peace.

    wow ... this is about as offensive of a statement as i have ever read ... :(
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    polaris_x wrote:
    usamamasan1 wrote:
    We speak the same language of freedom and justice and believe in the right of every person to live in peace.

    wow ... this is about as offensive of a statement as i have ever read ... :(
    he should have qualified that statement by saying "unless you are palestinian or iranian, We speak the same language of freedom and justice and believe in the right of every person to live in peace."

    he is ignornant of the history of the conflict and his advisors seem content to keep him that way...
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Drowned OutDrowned Out Posts: 6,056
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    polaris_x wrote:
    usamamasan1 wrote:
    We speak the same language of freedom and justice and believe in the right of every person to live in peace.

    wow ... this is about as offensive of a statement as i have ever read ... :(
    he should have qualified that statement by saying "unless you are palestinian or iranian, We speak the same language of freedom and justice and believe in the right of every person to live in peace."

    he is ignornant of the history of the conflict and his advisors seem content to keep him that way...
    or....he chooses to be another cog in the gears of the Israel/US propaganda machine. I doubt he's that naive. He's a politician, and he's talking.....99/100 that means he's lying, or obscuring the truth.
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    Drowned Out wrote:
    or....he chooses to be another cog in the gears of the Israel/US propaganda machine. I doubt he's that naive. He's a politician, and he's talking.....99/100 that means he's lying, or obscuring the truth.
    or just pandering to the ignorant who don't know any better...
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Drowned OutDrowned Out Posts: 6,056
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    Drowned Out wrote:
    or....he chooses to be another cog in the gears of the Israel/US propaganda machine. I doubt he's that naive. He's a politician, and he's talking.....99/100 that means he's lying, or obscuring the truth.
    or just pandering to the ignorant who don't know any better...
    Pandering, propagandizing, lying, and obscuring truth, all in one soundbyte, neatly pre-packaged by the handlers who know which lobbies pay his bills ....just another day at the office ;)
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    Drowned Out wrote:
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    Drowned Out wrote:
    or....he chooses to be another cog in the gears of the Israel/US propaganda machine. I doubt he's that naive. He's a politician, and he's talking.....99/100 that means he's lying, or obscuring the truth.
    or just pandering to the ignorant who don't know any better...
    Pandering, propagandizing, lying, and obscuring truth, all in one soundbyte, neatly pre-packaged by the handlers who know which lobbies pay his bills ....just another day at the office ;)
    i'll bet if elected he would still keep giving israel 4-5 billion dollars a year in military aid... so there goes that budget cut... :roll:
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,720
    Drowned Out wrote:
    ....99/100 that means he's lying, or obscuring the truth.
    ill make that about politicians 100/100 to be sure i get that right
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  • Drowned OutDrowned Out Posts: 6,056
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    Drowned Out wrote:
    Pandering, propagandizing, lying, and obscuring truth, all in one soundbyte, neatly pre-packaged by the handlers who know which lobbies pay his bills ....just another day at the office ;)
    i'll bet if elected he would still keep giving israel 4-5 billion dollars a year in military aid... so there goes that budget cut... :roll:
    Republicans are just as big govt as Dems....anyone who supports the GOP based on budget cuts is dreaming. The only difference is who gets the bigger tax breaks. The rich, or the ultra-rich.
    dimitrispearljam wrote:
    Drowned Out wrote:
    ....99/100 that means he's lying, or obscuring the truth.
    ill make that about politicians 100/100 to be sure i get that right
    well, in fairness....I bet every once in a while he professes his love of money.
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    Drowned Out wrote:
    Republicans are just as big govt as Dems....anyone who supports the GOP based on budget cuts is dreaming. The only difference is who gets the bigger tax breaks. The rich, or the ultra-rich.
    I agree that dreaming of the GOP or any DC politician cutting the budget is a pipe dream.

    But the way Obama and people on the left are spinning Romney wanting to raise taxes on the middle class is completely insane to me. Obama is the only one who wants to raise taxes.

    If Romney wins, everyone in America gets a tax break extension. It looks like the GOP will take back majority in the Senate and they control the House.

    If Obama wins, the DC gridlock will cause everyone to lose the tax credit. And he will go down as the only candidate who won on a platform that proclaimed he was going to raise taxes.
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    Jason P wrote:
    Drowned Out wrote:
    Republicans are just as big govt as Dems....anyone who supports the GOP based on budget cuts is dreaming. The only difference is who gets the bigger tax breaks. The rich, or the ultra-rich.
    I agree that dreaming of the GOP or any DC politician cutting the budget is a pipe dream.

    But the way Obama and people on the left are spinning Romney wanting to raise taxes on the middle class is completely insane to me. Obama is the only one who wants to raise taxes.

    If Romney wins, everyone in America gets a tax break extension. It looks like the GOP will take back majority in the Senate and they control the House.

    If Obama wins, the DC gridlock will cause everyone to lose the tax credit. And he will go down as the only candidate who won on a platform that proclaimed he was going to raise taxes.
    dude, the automatic budget cuts are going to cut programs or raise what people have to pay into those programs, so while not a tax per se, it put about an extra $2000 burden on the middle class.

    romney hood, taking from the poor to pay for tax cuts to the wealthy...

    but back on the topic of our ally israel, israel is sabrerattling in the middle east and they would not be doing that without our support. if we told them that they would be on their own if they attacked iran, they would be significantly less brazen in their rhetoric...
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • usamamasan1usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    Israel is not alone. They are our ally. Pretend is fun sometimes, but the fact is, we stand by our ally Israel. They understand this and factor into their calculations because they are smart.
    Got to be on the offensive with the bad guys. For example, the Qods Force
    Terrorism is Irans foreign policy. Believe that. We need to be stronger with our hand when dealing with them. If Israel decides to do so, of course we will be with our ally. America and Israel should be prepared and decisive.


    http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/07/ ... SW20120720
  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 11,604
    This country is good, that country is bad, this country is our ally, that country is our enemy.

    This is the sad American right-wing view of the world, which Romney is more than happy to exploit.

    That's what allows us to convince ourselves to invade countries that have not provoked us in any way.
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    This country is good, that country is bad, this country is our ally, that country is our enemy.

    This is the sad American right-wing view of the world, which Romney is more than happy to exploit.

    That's what allows us to convince ourselves to invade countries that have not provoked us in any way.
    it must suck to live in fear of everyone that is not like ourselves...
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • usamamasan1usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    Iran hasn't provoked Israel or the USA eh? Interesting.
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    dude, the automatic budget cuts are going to cut programs or raise what people have to pay into those programs, so while not a tax per se, it put about an extra $2000 burden on the middle class.

    romney hood, taking from the poor to pay for tax cuts to the wealthy...

    but back on the topic of our ally israel, israel is sabrerattling in the middle east and they would not be doing that without our support. if we told them that they would be on their own if they attacked iran, they would be significantly less brazen in their rhetoric...
    Both Obama and Romney support Israel. That much is simple.

    Both Obama and Romney can't cut the budget. That much is simple.

    Obama wants to raise taxes and Romney doesn't. That much is simple.
  • BinauralJamBinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    usamamasan1 wrote:
    Iran hasn't provoked Israel or the USA eh? Interesting.

    You're right, it's their own fault. :think: Nuke'em Woot :|
  • usamamasan1usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    Blast their nuke sites and try to keep the human costs to a minimum. thats probably the way to go. It's sad that it might come to this. I wish that Iran could get their head out of their ass. Messing with the wrong countries, you're gonna get the horns.

    "We must lead the effort to prevent Iran from building and possessing nuclear weapons capability,"


    "We should employ any and all measures to dissuade the Iranian regime from its nuclear course," he said, expressing hope that diplomatic and economic measures would help achieve this aim, but adding that "in final analysis, of course, no option should be excluded."

    "We recognise Israel's right to defend itself, and that it is right for America to stand with you,"
    Romney
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    Jason P wrote:
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    dude, the automatic budget cuts are going to cut programs or raise what people have to pay into those programs, so while not a tax per se, it put about an extra $2000 burden on the middle class.

    romney hood, taking from the poor to pay for tax cuts to the wealthy...

    but back on the topic of our ally israel, israel is sabrerattling in the middle east and they would not be doing that without our support. if we told them that they would be on their own if they attacked iran, they would be significantly less brazen in their rhetoric...
    Both Obama and Romney support Israel. That much is simple.

    Both Obama and Romney can't cut the budget. That much is simple.

    Obama wants to raise taxes and Romney doesn't. That much is simple.
    yes, and taxes on the top 2% should be raised. but do not deflect from the topic.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 11,604
    usamamasan1 wrote:
    Iran hasn't provoked Israel or the USA eh? Interesting.

    I was more referring to Iraq.

    Why specifically should we go to war with Iran? North Korea also has developed nukes. Pakistan, India. Let's bomb all of 'em. Kill 'em all!

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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    usamamasan1 wrote:
    Blast their nuke sites and try to keep the human costs to a minimum. thats probably the way to go. It's sad that it might come to this. I wish that Iran could get their head out of their ass. Messing with the wrong countries, you're gonna get the horns.

    "We must lead the effort to prevent Iran from building and possessing nuclear weapons capability,"


    "We should employ any and all measures to dissuade the Iranian regime from its nuclear course," he said, expressing hope that diplomatic and economic measures would help achieve this aim, but adding that "in final analysis, of course, no option should be excluded."

    "We recognise Israel's right to defend itself, and that it is right for America to stand with you,"
    Romney
    why do you constantly post soundbytes? can you think for yourself?

    it is simple. if israel stopped talking so much shit on iran they would not be threatened. if they would treat the palestinians like human beings then there would be no threat to them. they are bringing it on themselves.

    it is like the toadie in the school yard who will pick on other kids and then when they get threatened they will go find the bully to blindly back them up...
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    usamamasan, i saw that post you just deleted, and it was not funny.

    you have contributed nothing in any of the israel palestine threads on here other than uninformed, jingoistic posts that make light of the situation. it is not a joke. that situation is not a joke. why is it that the majority of countries view the united states and israel as greater threats to world peace than any of the arab countries that you mock on here??

    it is clear that regarding this issue you do not know what you are talking about other than what your mitt romney emails tell you. it would do all of us good if you would read up and have a serious discussion about that issue.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • usamamasan1usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    usamamasan, i saw that post you just deleted, and it was not funny.

    neat.

    This thread is about Israel, our ally. You just don't get it. Leave the thread.

    bub bye
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    usamamasan1 wrote:
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    usamamasan, i saw that post you just deleted, and it was not funny.

    neat.
    why is it that the majority of countries view the united states and israel as greater threats to world peace than any of the arab countries that you mock on here??
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    usamamasan1 wrote:
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    usamamasan, i saw that post you just deleted, and it was not funny.

    neat.

    This thread is about Israel, our ally. You just don't get it. Leave the thread.

    bub bye
    what is there to get?

    that you are celebrating a friendship based on soundbytes?

    do you know the root cause of the I/P conflict? do you know why the us must kiss the arse of the israeli government?
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • usamamasan1usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    edited August 2012
    Israel. Intellectual dominance in the region.

    “Culture makes all the difference”

    Romeny
    Post edited by usamamasan1 on
  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 11,604
    usamamasan1 wrote:
    “Culture makes all the difference,”

    Romeny

    And a 40-year occupation. Nice job. :lol::lol::lol:
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    usamamasan1 wrote:
    Israel. Intellectual dominance in the region.

    “Culture makes all the difference”

    Romeny
    i think i proved my point...
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • usamamasan1usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
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    "Make no mistake, the ayatollahs in Iran are testing our moral defenses. They want to know who will object and who will look the other way," he said. "We will not look away nor will our country ever look away from our passion and commitment to Israel."

    Romney

    Wonder how long it will take after the election to move our embassy to the capital of Israel, Jerusalum?
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