Seven-year-old girl shot dead in Chicago

lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
edited July 2012 in A Moving Train
Seven-year-old girl shot dead while selling lemonade in Chicago

http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/06/29 ... n-chicago/

Just sickening...
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    honestly wtf are we doing up in chicago? what is it with all of this violence and murder the last few months up there?

    we have a gun problem in this country, and we will have a gun problem until the end of time.
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  • NamiNami Newfoundland Posts: 5,997
    That sir is fucked up.... imagine a 7yr old.

    disgusting
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  • CP218430CP218430 Posts: 1,940
    Double the murder rate of New York.

    Half the Police force.

    And if I had to guess 3 times the size?

    Even more messed up than her being 7, she was selling lemonade at 10:30 P.M.
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  • MotoDCMotoDC Posts: 947
    honestly wtf are we doing up in chicago? what is it with all of this violence and murder the last few months up there?

    we have a gun problem in this country, and we will have a gun problem until the end of time.
    Good question. Tragic about the little girl in any case. I would wager that most of the 253 murders this year in Chicago were not by licensed/registered/legal gun owners.
  • ComeToTXComeToTX Austin Posts: 7,872
    253 :o:o:o

    Jesus!
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  • McCready00McCready00 Posts: 371
    Guns are great !
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  • usamamasan1usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    Emanuel pledged to make Chicago’s streets safe when he became mayor last year.
  • peacefrompaulpeacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    Emanuel pledged to make Chicago’s streets safe when he became mayor last year.

    :fp:
  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Chicago just gave $1M to a group of ex gang members to act as mediators before violence erupts.

    Typical. Instead of cleaning the streets they would rather just throw a coat of polish on them.

    I stay out of Chicago. You can't walk 20 feet without a camera or tax getting you.


    Oh, why is a 7 year old outside at 1045pm? Great parenting skills there.
  • peacefrompaulpeacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    unsung wrote:
    Chicago just gave $1M to a group of ex gang members to act as mediators before violence erupts.

    Typical. Instead of cleaning the streets they would rather just throw a coat of polish on them.

    I stay out of Chicago. You can't walk 20 feet without a camera or tax getting you.


    Oh, why is a 7 year old outside at 1045pm? Great parenting skills there.

    That's a shame because I used to enjoy Chicago a lot.
  • peacefrompaulpeacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    unsung wrote:


    Oh, why is a 7 year old outside at 1045pm? Great parenting skills there.

    Ahhh yeah... +1
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,426
    What a shame. Terrible and very sad.

    Never-the-less, even though I haven't been there in several years I'd be willing to venture a guess that most parts Chicago are relatively safe and enjoyable. It's the poor who live in poor districts that suffer the most casualties and hardship in our cities. This is one place we still need to make changes in many cities- big changes.
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  • peacefrompaulpeacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    brianlux wrote:
    What a shame. Terrible and very sad.

    Never-the-less, even though I haven't been there in several years I'd be willing to venture a guess that most parts Chicago are relatively safe and enjoyable. It's the poor who live in poor districts that suffer the most casualties and hardship in our cities. This is one place we still need to make changes in many cities- big changes.

    Agreed Brian... Man... How sad...
  • I dont' give a shit how old she was and what she was doing. even asking that question is a slippery slope to blaming the victim. it's like saying "that brutal rape was awful, but really, what was she doing wearing such skimpy clothing like that?". Come on people. she was an innocent kid selling drinks with her mom. she was with her MOM.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,426
    I dont' give a shit how old she was and what she was doing. even asking that question is a slippery slope to blaming the victim. it's like saying "that brutal rape was awful, but really, what was she doing wearing such skimpy clothing like that?". Come on people. she was an innocent kid selling drinks with her mom. she was with her MOM.

    Good points, Hugh. Besides, as hot as it's been back there the kid was probably pretty smart being open that late.

    The whole thing is sad.
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  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Yeah they were just talking a stroll on a picturesque beach with the wind gently blowing their hair.

    No. Reality is poor parenting is to blame along with Chicago being weak on gangs.
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    unsung wrote:
    Yeah they were just talking a stroll on a picturesque beach with the wind gently blowing their hair.

    No. Reality is poor parenting is to blame along with Chicago being weak on gangs.
    :idea:

    why don't you blame the shooter rather than the mom and the victim? the mom did not pull the trigger. and the mom standing there beside her daughter is not tantamount to pulling the trigger. the blame lies with the shooter, the gun, and nobody else.
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  • lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    Why anyone would even hint that this is the fault of the victim baffles me? A seven year should feel safe no matter what hour of the day it is.
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    lukin2006 wrote:
    Why anyone would even hint that this is the fault of the victim baffles me? A seven year should feel safe no matter what hour of the day it is.
    it is just like blaming the poor for their lot in life. it is the easy answer to a HUGE problem that plagues our society.
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  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    You guys must be blind, nobody blamed the girl. I did blame the Mom for letting a 7 yr old outside at 1045pm. You'd think that it's common knowledge to get inside before the animals come out but what do I know, I don't play in the street.

    So to be really clear; the Mom, the city, and the gangs are to blame. Not a child or a gun.
  • Hugh Freaking DillonHugh Freaking Dillon Posts: 14,010
    edited June 2012
    unsung wrote:
    You guys must be blind, nobody blamed the girl. I did blame the Mom for letting a 7 yr old outside at 1045pm. You'd think that it's common knowledge to get inside before the animals come out but what do I know, I don't play in the street.

    So to be really clear; the Mom, the city, and the gangs are to blame. Not a child or a gun.

    there was a 2 year old in the city over from me that got run over and died. the kid darted away from its mom and got hit. people on the winnipeg free press website were blaming the mom for basically not having the kid on a fucking leash.

    it's just so fucking backwards.
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  • unsung wrote:
    You guys must be blind, nobody blamed the girl. I did blame the Mom for letting a 7 yr old outside at 1045pm. You'd think that it's common knowledge to get inside before the animals come out but what do I know, I don't play in the street.

    So to be really clear; the Mom, the city, and the gangs are to blame. Not a child or a gun.

    so do you blame a woman for being raped because she was drunk walking down a deserted back alley at 3am?
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  • elvistheking44elvistheking44 Posts: 4,441
    Emanuel pledged to make Chicago’s streets safe when he became mayor last year.

    He meant streets on the north side. It so sad, but no political figure gives a shit about the south or west side of Chicago. The only time this stuff gets brought to our attention is when the weather gets hot, and some "thugs" from the south and west side wander into the "white" areas of Chicago. When I say "white" I mean, Michigan Avenue and the Northside beaches.

    If a child is killed, it is on the news. 253 murders so far, the news maybe reported 15 of them....because they were kids.

    Mayor Emanuel wonders what type of person wanders up and starts gang fire in the presence of a child? Hey Mr. Mayor, its the kind of person who has been neglected by his/her parents and all city officials their entire life....especially the school system.
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    chicago is a cess pool
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,021
    unsung wrote:
    You guys must be blind, nobody blamed the girl. I did blame the Mom for letting a 7 yr old outside at 1045pm. You'd think that it's common knowledge to get inside before the animals come out but what do I know, I don't play in the street.

    So to be really clear; the Mom, the city, and the gangs are to blame. Not a child or a gun.
    I cannot see how I matters what time it was. School is out, it is a million degrees there right now, they probably didn't have air conditioning. They were probably out because it was too fucking hot to stay in their home. I don't care what time of day it was, a mother should be able to have her kids out 24/7 without them getting shot. The blame and responsibility is completely 100% with the shooter.
    Could also be that the mother is just so hard up she can't afford to miss work, and had absolutely no child care options. Either way, I cannot understand how a kid being out late matters at all. Now you're a bad parents because ypur child is out of doors after 9?? Give me a break!!!
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  • sickgirlsickgirl Posts: 139
    Ughh, that's so sad...
    Fuck Cancer, fucking jerk
  • 8181 Needing a ride to Forest Hills and a ounce of weed. Please inquire within. Thanks. Or not. Posts: 58,276
    As Dorsey approached, a 19-year-old man was at the stand to buy cigarettes, Sumner said.

    sad story, but damn, selling smokes? :fp:
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  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    That was in the Tribune today, a 7 year old selling cigarettes at 1045pm. Great parenting skills.
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,492
    unsung wrote:
    Yeah they were just talking a stroll on a picturesque beach with the wind gently blowing their hair.

    No. Reality is poor parenting is to blame along with Chicago being weak on gangs.


    The poor parenting put her in a dangerous position, but isn't to blame. Good parenting could have helped it from happening though.
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