They aren't playing Ron Paul Liberty Jam because they don't support Ron Paul.
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Well I can get to the heart of why Pearl Jam SHOULD support Ron Paul.
Ron Paul is anti war.
Pearl Jam is anti war.
Obama is pro war.
Romney is pro war.
It is my opinion that if you are for Obama or Romney you are for occupation and war. If you are for Ron Paul you are for peace.
It is that simple to me.
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Who else here is pro-Ron Paul?
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Well I can get to the heart of why Pearl Jam SHOULD support Ron Paul.
Ron Paul is anti war.
Pearl Jam is anti war.
Obama is pro war.
Romney is pro war.
It is my opinion that if you are for Obama or Romney you are for occupation and war. If you are for Ron Paul you are for peace.
It is that simple to me.
+1
Who else here is pro-Ron Paul?
me
When PJ voices their love for Ron Paul I will burn everything I own of theirs. Not necessarily because I agree with PJ's political side, but merely because 90% of the reason I am still such a fan of them is because they are true to themselves and what they believe in. And quite frankly Ron Paul is the complete and utter opposite of their beliefs.
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When PJ voices their love for Ron Paul I will burn everything I own of theirs. Not necessarily because I agree with PJ's political side, but merely because 90% of the reason I am still such a fan of them is because they are true to themselves and what they believe in. And quite frankly Ron Paul is the complete and utter opposite of their beliefs.
Are you serious, the complete and utter opposite? WHERE DO YOU GET THESE IDEAS? I had no idea Ed and the boys had become warmonger expansionists overnight.
When PJ voices their love for Ron Paul I will burn everything I own of theirs. Not necessarily because I agree with PJ's political side, but merely because 90% of the reason I am still such a fan of them is because they are true to themselves and what they believe in. And quite frankly Ron Paul is the complete and utter opposite of their beliefs.[/quote]
So you and Pearl Jam are:
against the constitution
against personal liberty
against balancing the budget
pro war
pro federal reserve
pro banker bailouts
pro TSA
pro NDAA
pro fascism
pro socialism
pro communism
pro CISPA
pro drones
pro Billderberg
Is that correct?
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Let's remember that Pearl Jam is a band with six members. They probably don't all have the exact same political stances- similar in many ways not doubt, but they're individuals. I'm guessing that's why they aren't playing for The Ron Paul Liberty Jam. I really can't even picture this happening.
"Pretty cookies, heart squares all around, yeah!" -Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
Scheduling the the primary reason they didn't play.
Ed's arm is on the mend. Matt is touring w/ Soundgarden. Mike's finishing up a Flight to Mars tour. Stone just finished up a new album w/ Brad. And Jeff is probably off skateboarding somewhere in Montana.
Politics have nothing to do with it. Doesn't anyone keep up w/ the band anymore?
When PJ voices their love for Ron Paul I will burn everything I own of theirs. Not necessarily because I agree with PJ's political side, but merely because 90% of the reason I am still such a fan of them is because they are true to themselves and what they believe in. And quite frankly Ron Paul is the complete and utter opposite of their beliefs.
So you and Pearl Jam are:
against the constitution
against personal liberty
against balancing the budget
pro war
pro federal reserve
pro banker bailouts
pro TSA
pro NDAA
pro fascism
pro socialism
pro communism
pro CISPA
pro drones
pro Billderberg
Is that correct?[/quote]
I don't know politics. I just wait for Ed to tell me who to vote for. Oh, and this post that I'm quoting is just absurd. Just absurd. Ill informed, economically naive paranoia.
Scheduling the the primary reason they didn't play.
Ed's arm is on the mend. Matt is touring w/ Soundgarden. Mike's finishing up a Flight to Mars tour. Stone just finished up a new album w/ Brad. And Jeff is probably off skateboarding somewhere in Montana.
Politics have nothing to do with it. Doesn't anyone keep up w/ the band anymore?
Yes... and they would not play this if they were all available and healthy. Why would they play a show endorsing a politician they don't endorse? ... This conversation makes no sense.
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Pearl Jam needs to support Ron Paul and get more political.
Liberty Jam (Ron Paulstock) - May 26, 2012 Atlanta Georgia
Submitted by llatpoh on Sat, 05/26/2012 - 21:14
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Liberty Jam is a fundraiser for our future event Ron Paulstock which will be FREE.
Liberty Musicians / Bands : Jordan Page, The Industry, Axis Experience w/ TMOT, ...
Liberty Speakers & Candidates : Monica Perez, Charles Gregory, Nick Johnson, ...
All resonating the message of Dr. Ron Paul from 11am to 6pm Saturday May 26.
For details go to LibertyJam.Org & go to Ustream LibertyJamOrg for a Live Stream.
...
"Join us for Liberty Jam & Ron Paulstock. A culmination of all walks of life to share joy and harmony in the Liberty movement." - Ben Mihalski, Director.
The venue has graciously been provided by the liberty minded people at Matilda's Cottage.
I'd be willing to bet PJ was concerned they couldn't stack up against the likes of Jordan Page, The Industry, The Axis Experiment w/TMOT, the Patrick Sowell Project and Sailing to Denver....
with that kind of line up, who needs Pearl Jam....?
Also, I think PJ hates liberty...
edit: for those who enjoy a good read....take a look at the comments section of link for this epic Paul-a-palozza....
Pearl Jam needs to support Ron Paul and get more political.
Liberty Jam (Ron Paulstock) - May 26, 2012 Atlanta Georgia
Submitted by llatpoh on Sat, 05/26/2012 - 21:14
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Georgia
Liberty Jam is a fundraiser for our future event Ron Paulstock which will be FREE.
Liberty Musicians / Bands : Jordan Page, The Industry, Axis Experience w/ TMOT, ...
Liberty Speakers & Candidates : Monica Perez, Charles Gregory, Nick Johnson, ...
All resonating the message of Dr. Ron Paul from 11am to 6pm Saturday May 26.
For details go to LibertyJam.Org & go to Ustream LibertyJamOrg for a Live Stream.
...
"Join us for Liberty Jam & Ron Paulstock. A culmination of all walks of life to share joy and harmony in the Liberty movement." - Ben Mihalski, Director.
The venue has graciously been provided by the liberty minded people at Matilda's Cottage.
I'd be willing to bet PJ was concerned they couldn't stack up against the likes of Jordan Page, The Industry, The Axis Experiment w/TMOT, the Patrick Sowell Project and Sailing to Denver....
with that kind of line up, who needs Pearl Jam....?
Also, I think PJ hates liberty...
edit: for those who enjoy a good read....take a look at the comments section of link for this epic Paul-a-palozza....
Are you serious or kidding??
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Yes... and they would not play this if they were all available and healthy. Why would they play a show endorsing a politician they don't endorse? ... This conversation makes no sense.
Dunno, I'm still trying to figure out WTF was with Rock Around Barrack LOL. Good job on choosing the right guy boys! War expansions, still secret torture camps, and still rocking the patriot act. YES WE CAN.
Barrys a good guy though, just ask his cabinet full of Federal Reserve and Trilateral Commission buddies he took care of as soon as he got in office.
Yes... and they would not play this if they were all available and healthy. Why would they play a show endorsing a politician they don't endorse? ... This conversation makes no sense.
Dunno, I'm still trying to figure out WTF was with Rock Around Barrack LOL. Good job on choosing the right guy boys! War expansions, still secret torture camps, and still rocking the patriot act. YES WE CAN.
Barrys a good guy though, just ask his cabinet full of Federal Reserve and Trilateral Commission buddies he took care of as soon as he got in office.
Whatever - that's not what this conversation is about - should not be turning the convo into how much you or anyone else hates Obama. 50% of Americans still support him, so.... Who was PJ supposed to support last election? The Republican? They are left wing. Also, they have not endorsed any politician for this election as far as I know. Get over it. :roll:
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
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I'd be willing to bet PJ was concerned they couldn't stack up against the likes of Jordan Page, The Industry, The Axis Experiment w/TMOT, the Patrick Sowell Project and Sailing to Denver....
with that kind of line up, who needs Pearl Jam....?
Also, I think PJ hates liberty...
edit: for those who enjoy a good read....take a look at the comments section of link for this epic Paul-a-palozza....
I think anybody who puts any faith in a politician needs to have their head examined. I could peronally care less what Pearl jam thinks when it comes to politics. I will say this though, I am amazed how many people are going to vote for their own enslavement and demise and dont even care..
I think anybody who puts any faith in a politician needs to have their head examined. I could peronally care less what Pearl jam thinks when it comes to politics. I will say this though, I am amazed how many people are going to vote for their own enslavement and demise and dont even care..
Agreed - it's just stupid as fuck to put faith in a politician, especially someone who is running for president.
Okay... It's "I COULDN'T care less." Why do Americans say "could care less"? It doesn't make any sense at all. It means the exact opposite of what they're actually trying to say. Off topic, yes... but it really bugs me!!! Pet peeve! An explanation of why Americans say this nonsensical phrase would interest me.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Yes... and they would not play this if they were all available and healthy. Why would they play a show endorsing a politician they don't endorse? ... This conversation makes no sense.
Dunno, I'm still trying to figure out WTF was with Rock Around Barrack LOL. Good job on choosing the right guy boys! War expansions, still secret torture camps, and still rocking the patriot act. YES WE CAN.
Barrys a good guy though, just ask his cabinet full of Federal Reserve and Trilateral Commission buddies he took care of as soon as he got in office.
Whatever - that's not what this conversation is about - should not be turning the convo into how much you or anyone else hates Obama. 50% of Americans still support him, so.... Who was PJ supposed to support last election? The Republican? They are left wing. Also, they have not endorsed any politician for this election as far as I know. Get over it. :roll:
Wait, where did I say I hate Obama? You're the one trying to toss us off the wayside. You must be confused, many of Pauls policies are more left wing than Obamas, but I guess all that matters to you is the color of the backdrop behind him. As far as who they should have supported, it's obvious last election both parties were giving us Bush 2.0 (would it be 3.0?) these parties have been tossing the football back and forth since Eisenhower left office, regardless of which you voted for. In other words, they could have abstained from backing any candidate, knowing Obama was going to just continue the neo-con agenda. (And lets face it, that was pretty obvious... though I'm sure the rallies felt good)
Agreed - it's just stupid as fuck to put faith in a politician, especially someone who is running for president.
Why don't you just admit you know nothing about Ron Paul? normally I'd be right there with you but this is the one politician with a 30+ year voting record that backs up all the "promises" he makes. If you are uneducated I suggest you read up on him before commenting!
ok my bad. I have had very little time to follow closely a race that is clearly going in Mitt Romney's favor. I should have not responded to your ridiculous thread. I took this literally:
"In the long drama that is Mitt Romney's relationship with the Tea Party, symbolism can mean a lot.
Like the candidate's red-meat speech at the Conservative Political Action Conference that likely helped him win a straw poll. Or sharing the stage with Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida, a Tea Party love. And, most recently, meeting in secret with Rand Paul, a freshman senator who is the son of Ron Paul, the last Republican presidential candidate to drop out of the race, and favorite of the Tea Party brand."
Actually we won't know who is winning or has won until the GOP convention in August in Tampa. Candidates are picked by delegates and so far Ron Paul has the most unbound delegates in the race. Votes really don't count and even with the all-in states delegates are considered unbound. There have been about 12 state conventions to pick these delegates and so far Ron Paul has won just about all of them. You can't rely on Faux news for your news.
Romney needs 172 delegates to win this. Texas votes today - they have 152 delegates. Ron Paul, despite being from Texas, will lose most of those delegates to Romney. A week from today, California and a few other states vote, with over 250 delegates to be won, and by then, Romney will have this clinched. Ron Paul would need to somehow win more than 1000 delegates. There aren't that many unbound delegates. It's not going to happen. He never had a chance to begin with. His political philosophy is too extreme for most people. He claims that America is a Libertarian-minded country, but it's just not so.
Yes, Obama and Romney are two sides of the same coin. Yes, the Americans government needs some kind of fundamental shake-up. But Ron Paul is not the man to do it. I don't know who is. The Green Party can't do it either - by the way, Dr. Jill Stein from Massachusetts is the almost-certain nominee for the Greens this year, but she is 'too nice' to get anywhere, and the Green Party platform is, sadly, too radical for most Americans.
America has always been ruled by an elite class. I don't see how that will ever change. I've given up trying to change it. I admire the passion that Ron Paul's supporters have, but it's destined to lead to disappointment. Speaking as a former Nader supporter.
Dunno, I'm still trying to figure out WTF was with Rock Around Barrack LOL. Good job on choosing the right guy boys! War expansions, still secret torture camps, and still rocking the patriot act. YES WE CAN.
Barrys a good guy though, just ask his cabinet full of Federal Reserve and Trilateral Commission buddies he took care of as soon as he got in office.
Whatever - that's not what this conversation is about - should not be turning the convo into how much you or anyone else hates Obama. 50% of Americans still support him, so.... Who was PJ supposed to support last election? The Republican? They are left wing. Also, they have not endorsed any politician for this election as far as I know. Get over it. :roll:
Wait, where did I say I hate Obama? You're the one trying to toss us off the wayside. You must be confused, many of Pauls policies are more left wing than Obamas, but I guess all that matters to you is the color of the backdrop behind him. As far as who they should have supported, it's obvious last election both parties were giving us Bush 2.0 (would it be 3.0?) these parties have been tossing the football back and forth since Eisenhower left office, regardless of which you voted for. In other words, they could have abstained from backing any candidate, knowing Obama was going to just continue the neo-con agenda. (And lets face it, that was pretty obvious... though I'm sure the rallies felt good)
Agreed - it's just stupid as fuck to put faith in a politician, especially someone who is running for president.
Why don't you just admit you know nothing about Ron Paul? normally I'd be right there with you but this is the one politician with a 30+ year voting record that backs up all the "promises" he makes. If you are uneducated I suggest you read up on him before commenting!
I have read up on him.
He's running for President. Whole different ball game to say the least. Also, having read up on him (I do actually have the exact same access to info as you do!), I also know about all the stances that he's basically flip flopped on over the years simply because of how he thinks the public will react to what he really thinks. He actually has some very socially conservative beliefs that's he's back off on because of public perception... that doesn't mean he doesn't still believe them.
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When PJ voices their love for Ron Paul I will burn everything I own of theirs. Not necessarily because I agree with PJ's political side, but merely because 90% of the reason I am still such a fan of them is because they are true to themselves and what they believe in. And quite frankly Ron Paul is the complete and utter opposite of their beliefs.
I might know one for sure.
Are you serious, the complete and utter opposite? WHERE DO YOU GET THESE IDEAS? I had no idea Ed and the boys had become warmonger expansionists overnight.
When PJ voices their love for Ron Paul I will burn everything I own of theirs. Not necessarily because I agree with PJ's political side, but merely because 90% of the reason I am still such a fan of them is because they are true to themselves and what they believe in. And quite frankly Ron Paul is the complete and utter opposite of their beliefs.[/quote]
So you and Pearl Jam are:
against the constitution
against personal liberty
against balancing the budget
pro war
pro federal reserve
pro banker bailouts
pro TSA
pro NDAA
pro fascism
pro socialism
pro communism
pro CISPA
pro drones
pro Billderberg
Is that correct?
seen them lots o'times... fav show was probably Verona '06 and Forum shows in LA ..
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
Ed's arm is on the mend. Matt is touring w/ Soundgarden. Mike's finishing up a Flight to Mars tour. Stone just finished up a new album w/ Brad. And Jeff is probably off skateboarding somewhere in Montana.
Politics have nothing to do with it. Doesn't anyone keep up w/ the band anymore?
So you and Pearl Jam are:
against the constitution
against personal liberty
against balancing the budget
pro war
pro federal reserve
pro banker bailouts
pro TSA
pro NDAA
pro fascism
pro socialism
pro communism
pro CISPA
pro drones
pro Billderberg
Is that correct?[/quote]
I don't know politics. I just wait for Ed to tell me who to vote for. Oh, and this post that I'm quoting is just absurd. Just absurd. Ill informed, economically naive paranoia.
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lol
Come to think of it, I haven't heard much of anything political from PJ since Bush left office........
thats cause their work is done.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
I'd be willing to bet PJ was concerned they couldn't stack up against the likes of Jordan Page, The Industry, The Axis Experiment w/TMOT, the Patrick Sowell Project and Sailing to Denver....
with that kind of line up, who needs Pearl Jam....?
Also, I think PJ hates liberty...
edit: for those who enjoy a good read....take a look at the comments section of link for this epic Paul-a-palozza....
Dunno, I'm still trying to figure out WTF was with Rock Around Barrack LOL. Good job on choosing the right guy boys! War expansions, still secret torture camps, and still rocking the patriot act. YES WE CAN.
Barrys a good guy though, just ask his cabinet full of Federal Reserve and Trilateral Commission buddies he took care of as soon as he got in office.
Six? Did I miss something?
It's hard to do when your foot is in your mouth.
yes and yes....
I believe the hater club membership is a few bucks cheaper...
Okay... It's "I COULDN'T care less." Why do Americans say "could care less"? It doesn't make any sense at all. It means the exact opposite of what they're actually trying to say. Off topic, yes... but it really bugs me!!! Pet peeve! An explanation of why Americans say this nonsensical phrase would interest me.
Wait, where did I say I hate Obama? You're the one trying to toss us off the wayside. You must be confused, many of Pauls policies are more left wing than Obamas, but I guess all that matters to you is the color of the backdrop behind him. As far as who they should have supported, it's obvious last election both parties were giving us Bush 2.0 (would it be 3.0?) these parties have been tossing the football back and forth since Eisenhower left office, regardless of which you voted for. In other words, they could have abstained from backing any candidate, knowing Obama was going to just continue the neo-con agenda. (And lets face it, that was pretty obvious... though I'm sure the rallies felt good)
Why don't you just admit you know nothing about Ron Paul? normally I'd be right there with you but this is the one politician with a 30+ year voting record that backs up all the "promises" he makes. If you are uneducated I suggest you read up on him before commenting!
Romney needs 172 delegates to win this. Texas votes today - they have 152 delegates. Ron Paul, despite being from Texas, will lose most of those delegates to Romney. A week from today, California and a few other states vote, with over 250 delegates to be won, and by then, Romney will have this clinched. Ron Paul would need to somehow win more than 1000 delegates. There aren't that many unbound delegates. It's not going to happen. He never had a chance to begin with. His political philosophy is too extreme for most people. He claims that America is a Libertarian-minded country, but it's just not so.
Yes, Obama and Romney are two sides of the same coin. Yes, the Americans government needs some kind of fundamental shake-up. But Ron Paul is not the man to do it. I don't know who is. The Green Party can't do it either - by the way, Dr. Jill Stein from Massachusetts is the almost-certain nominee for the Greens this year, but she is 'too nice' to get anywhere, and the Green Party platform is, sadly, too radical for most Americans.
America has always been ruled by an elite class. I don't see how that will ever change. I've given up trying to change it. I admire the passion that Ron Paul's supporters have, but it's destined to lead to disappointment. Speaking as a former Nader supporter.
I have read up on him.
He's running for President. Whole different ball game to say the least. Also, having read up on him (I do actually have the exact same access to info as you do!), I also know about all the stances that he's basically flip flopped on over the years simply because of how he thinks the public will react to what he really thinks. He actually has some very socially conservative beliefs that's he's back off on because of public perception... that doesn't mean he doesn't still believe them.