Why isn't PJ playing the Ron Paul Liberty Jam ???

taurustraci

Concerts don't count.

thats their interviews..their concerts..[/quote]

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Only Pearl Jam fans see those concerts big deal. Like I said CNN, MSNBC etc.

taurustraci

PJ_Soul wrote:

pjl44 wrote:

It would certainly please me to see, but I think their ideologies align to more Green than Libertarian.

Exactly. There is no way they would support Ron Paul.... and we know this because they are pretty fucking clear about their politics, which is largely expressed through their causes.

Libertarian views embrace a green environment. Who is running in the green party?

PJ_Soul

taurustraci wrote:

Concerts don't count.

thats their interviews..their concerts..

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Only Pearl Jam fans see those concerts big deal. Like I said CNN, MSNBC etc.[/quote]

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Why in the fuck would PJ be doing political interviews on CNN? What in the world are you talking about??? :fp:

PJ_Soul

taurustraci wrote:

PJ_Soul wrote:

pjl44 wrote:

It would certainly please me to see, but I think their ideologies align to more Green than Libertarian.

Exactly. There is no way they would support Ron Paul.... and we know this because they are pretty fucking clear about their politics, which is largely expressed through their causes.

Libertarian views embrace a green environment. Who is running in the green party?

I think your question has been answered. PJ isn't playing the Liberty Jam because PJ isn't endorsing Ron Paul. What are you looking for here???

taurustraci

Libertarian views embrace a green environment. Who is running in the green party?

I think your question has been answered. PJ isn't playing the Liberty Jam because PJ isn't endorsing Ron Paul. What are you looking for here???[/quote]

I just think that Ron Paul's ideas would go hand in hand with Pearl Jam's. They supported Nader, but no Ron Paul what gives?

pjl44

taurustraci wrote:

PJ_Soul wrote:

pjl44 wrote:

It would certainly please me to see, but I think their ideologies align to more Green than Libertarian.

Exactly. There is no way they would support Ron Paul.... and we know this because they are pretty fucking clear about their politics, which is largely expressed through their causes.

Libertarian views embrace a green environment. Who is running in the green party?

Not sure if the Greens have had their convention and/or if they have someone pushing for ballot access. Their platform on economic issues is heavily left where Libertarians are heavily right.

taurustraci

Not sure if the Greens have had their convention and/or if they have someone pushing for ballot access. Their platform on economic issues is heavily left where Libertarians are heavily right.

Libertarians are not left or right, they are for the constitution and personal liberties which is actually closer to the left of all things. Many libertarian views also align with Liberalism.

pjl44

taurustraci wrote:

Not sure if the Greens have had their convention and/or if they have someone pushing for ballot access. Their platform on economic issues is heavily left where Libertarians are heavily right.

Libertarians are not left or right, they are for the constitution and personal liberties which is actually closer to the left of all things. Many libertarian views also align with Liberalism.

True, but their views on economic policy are rooted in the Austrian school's model; capitalism and free markets vs. government controls and social programs. The Greens tend more toward the latter, as does Pearl Jam as an entity (as far as I can tell). For the record, I am a card-carrying Libertarian.

PJ_Soul

taurustraci wrote:

Libertarian views embrace a green environment. Who is running in the green party?

I think your question has been answered. PJ isn't playing the Liberty Jam because PJ isn't endorsing Ron Paul. What are you looking for here???

I just think that Ron Paul's ideas would go hand in hand with Pearl Jam's. They supported Nader, but no Ron Paul what gives?[/quote]

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I don't think that PJ's views match Ron Paul's very much at all. I don't believe they have economically conservative views at all, and don't support lowering taxes and limiting regulation in many arenas at all, and certainly wouldn't support cutting corporate taxes. Ron Paul supports restoring Bush-era tax cuts. I also believe PJ supports universal health care, and RP is against. He also thinks that prayer should come back into public schools and doesn't think church and state should be separated, is against spending regulations in campaigning, thinks the government should not be involved in the education system, and he is against gun control. He has some odd ideas about sexual harassment, and he is pro-life. He supports privatizing public land and selling off national parks for crying out loud, he thinks that environmental standards should be determined at the state level, and is against government incentives to use clean energy, and he doesn't think that the environment/climate change is a major threat to the world.

I have no idea at all where you got the idea that his views and PJ's align well. They don't even come close on many issues. PJ wouldn't support this guy in a million years. If you think they are similar in political views, then you are delusional or in denial or something.

81

you do realize ron paul is about 180 degree's opposite to a PJ supported canidate :fp:

taurustraci

PJ_Soul wrote:

taurustraci wrote:

Libertarian views embrace a green environment. Who is running in the green party?

I think your question has been answered. PJ isn't playing the Liberty Jam because PJ isn't endorsing Ron Paul. What are you looking for here???

I just think that Ron Paul's ideas would go hand in hand with Pearl Jam's. They supported Nader, but no Ron Paul what gives?

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I don't think that PJ's views match Ron Paul's very much at all. I don't believe they have economically conservative views at all, and don't support lowering taxes and limiting regulation in many arenas at all, and certainly wouldn't support cutting corporate taxes. Ron Paul supports restoring Bush-era tax cuts. I also believe PJ supports universal health care, and RP is against. He also thinks that prayer should come back into public schools and doesn't think church and state should be separated, is against spending regulations in campaigning, thinks the government should not be involved in the education system, and he is against gun control. He has some odd ideas about sexual harassment, and he is pro-life. He supports privatizing public land and selling off national parks for crying out loud, he thinks that environmental standards should be determined at the state level, and is against government incentives to use clean energy, and he doesn't think that the environment/climate change is a major threat to the world.

I have no idea at all where you got the idea that his views and PJ's align well. They don't even come close on many issues. PJ wouldn't support this guy in a million years.[/quote]

I'm not sure where you got your misinformation but that is not what Ron Paul represents at all. WOW!!!

taurustraci

81 wrote:

you do realize ron paul is about 180 degree's opposite to a PJ supported canidate :fp:

Then who does Pearl Jam support?

So does PJ support Obama's NDAA bill?

PJ_Soul

taurustraci wrote:

PJ_Soul wrote:

taurustraci wrote:

I just think that Ron Paul's ideas would go hand in hand with Pearl Jam's. They supported Nader, but no Ron Paul what gives?

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I don't think that PJ's views match Ron Paul's very much at all. I don't believe they have economically conservative views at all, and don't support lowering taxes and limiting regulation in many arenas at all, and certainly wouldn't support cutting corporate taxes. Ron Paul supports restoring Bush-era tax cuts. I also believe PJ supports universal health care, and RP is against. He also thinks that prayer should come back into public schools and doesn't think church and state should be separated, is against spending regulations in campaigning, thinks the government should not be involved in the education system, and he is against gun control. He has some odd ideas about sexual harassment, and he is pro-life. He supports privatizing public land and selling off national parks for crying out loud, he thinks that environmental standards should be determined at the state level, and is against government incentives to use clean energy, and he doesn't think that the environment/climate change is a major threat to the world.

I have no idea at all where you got the idea that his views and PJ's align well. They don't even come close on many issues. PJ wouldn't support this guy in a million years.

I'm not sure where you got your misinformation but that is not what Ron Paul represents at all. WOW!!!

... yeeaaaah, it is. I got my information mostly from quotes straight out of the man's mouth. I'm sure at this point he's busy spinning - you need to look at what he has actually said and supported over the years to know what he represents, not listen to what he's spinning now during his campaign. Wow to you thinking PJ has beliefs that match up with his; that tells me that you don't really know what RP actually does believe when it comes to specific issues (and that you don't understand that PJ is pretty much far left, including economics).

PJ_Soul

taurustraci wrote:

81 wrote:

you do realize ron paul is about 180 degree's opposite to a PJ supported canidate :fp:

Then who does Pearl Jam support?

So does PJ support Obama's NDAA bill?

How would we know? They haven't addressed it. It's just that PJ wouldn't support RP, and that is what you asked, right?

pjl44

taurustraci wrote:

81 wrote:

you do realize ron paul is about 180 degree's opposite to a PJ supported canidate :fp:

Then who does Pearl Jam support?

So does PJ support Obama's NDAA bill?

Look, at this point we're all just speculating. My advice would be to crack a beer and not give it a second thought.

taurustraci

PJ is pretty much far left, including economics).

Then PJ supports mass corruption and Obama's communist Wall Street croonies.

fortheloveofpearljam

this thread is ridiculous. Ron Paul was running as a republican before he lost the primary and dropped out of the race. enough said. :nono: :nono:
Pearl Jam are not politicians, that is why they are not on CNN, etc. :nono: :nono: They are clear about their beliefs and promote their beliefs to the like minded fans at concerts. one of my many reasons for loving this band is they do not compromise their beliefs, political or otherwise. :nono: :nono:

taurustraci

fortheloveofpearljam wrote:

this thread is ridiculous. Ron Paul was running as a republican before he lost the primary and dropped out of the race. enough said. :nono: :nono:
Pearl Jam are not politicians, that is why they are not on CNN, etc. :nono: :nono: They are clear about their beliefs and promote their beliefs to the like minded fans at concerts. one of my many reasons for loving this band is they do not compromise their beliefs, political or otherwise. :nono: :nono:

Ron Paul is still in the race and is doing very well, he just stopped campaigning to focus more on a delegate strategy. Just because he is running as a republican, doesn't mean that his views are aligned with the GOP.

Yes this thread is a bit silly because I can easily see that PJ fans are nonpolitical and are illinformed sheep of the biased mass media.

RedMosquito02

taurustraci wrote:

Obama's communist Wall Street croonies.

Gotta love it when these false patriots pull out the communist card. You are clearly very well informed yourself. Bravo :fp:

PJ_Soul

taurustraci wrote:

PJ is pretty much far left, including economics).

Then PJ supports mass corruption and Obama's communist Wall Street croonies.

How did you reach that conclusion from what I said?? The Democrats aren't far left either. Only closer to it than RP and/or the Republicans. And what is this communist bullshit? Do you even know what communism is??? I guess not.