Dunno, I'm still trying to figure out WTF was with Rock Around Barrack LOL. Good job on choosing the right guy boys! War expansions, still secret torture camps, and still rocking the patriot act. YES WE CAN.
Barrys a good guy though, just ask his cabinet full of Federal Reserve and Trilateral Commission buddies he took care of as soon as he got in office.
Whatever - that's not what this conversation is about - should not be turning the convo into how much you or anyone else hates Obama. 50% of Americans still support him, so.... Who was PJ supposed to support last election? The Republican? They are left wing. Also, they have not endorsed any politician for this election as far as I know. Get over it. :roll:
Wait, where did I say I hate Obama? You're the one trying to toss us off the wayside. You must be confused, many of Pauls policies are more left wing than Obamas, but I guess all that matters to you is the color of the backdrop behind him.
No, I'm not confused. Ron Paul's economic beliefs are very right wing. He also actually doesn't believe in gay marriage (although he doesn't think government should be involved in the issue), and he's strictly pro-life, and pro-gun, and he is NOT a friend to the environment judging from his ideas about regulations. MOST of his viewpoints are actually quite right. He has some strong libertarian views, but he is NOT left where it matters most. And most liberals aren't libertarians. Yeah, believe it or not I do know something about his stance, and I don't like him anyway!
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He is pro gun, therefore he is pro personal liberty. He isn't Obama or Romney, those are the reasons I'm writing him in.
No, I'm not confused. Ron Paul's economic beliefs are very right wing. He also actually doesn't believe in gay marriage (although he doesn't think government should be involved in the issue), and he's strictly pro-life, and pro-gun, and he is NOT a friend to the environment judging from his ideas about regulations. MOST of his viewpoints are actually quite right. He has some strong libertarian views, but he is NOT left where it matters most. And most liberals aren't libertarians. Yeah, believe it or not I do know something about his stance, and I don't like him anyway!
Fair enough, but your gay marriage point only strengthens the argument for Paul. Regardless of his personal stances he understands its everyones right to liberty, not just his ideal.
Please illustrate us the various flip flops you're suggesting.
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I was wrong in my previous post. Romney had more delegates than I was led to believe. So after yesterday's primary in Ron Paul's home state, Romney now has 1191 delegates - 47 more than needed to clinch the Republican nomination.
I was wrong in my previous post. Romney had more delegates than I was led to believe. So after yesterday's primary in Ron Paul's home state, Romney now has 1191 delegates - 47 more than needed to clinch the Republican nomination.
How will Ron Paul justify his campaign if he doesn't end it now?
that isn't the correct delegate number
they giving him credit for delegates that haven't been selected yet at caucuses and congressional district conventions.
They are still giving him delegates from Maine he didn't win, and I am pretty sure there are others.
Why didn't the others end their campaigns and simply suspend them?
There is a reason to continue to amass delegates that goes far beyond winning the nomination.
My bigger question would be, what would be the point of not attempting to gain more delegates that are like minded to the convention. More things are decided there than who is running for president.
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I was wrong in my previous post. Romney had more delegates than I was led to believe. So after yesterday's primary in Ron Paul's home state, Romney now has 1191 delegates - 47 more than needed to clinch the Republican nomination.
How will Ron Paul justify his campaign if he doesn't end it now?
that isn't the correct delegate number
they giving him credit for delegates that haven't been selected yet at caucuses and congressional district conventions.
They are still giving him delegates from Maine he didn't win, and I am pretty sure there are others.
Why didn't the others end their campaigns and simply suspend them?
There is a reason to continue to amass delegates that goes far beyond winning the nomination.
My bigger question would be, what would be the point of not attempting to gain more delegates that are like minded to the convention. More things are decided there than who is running for president.
The reason candidates "suspend" their campaigns rather than "end" them is because then they can still collect contributions, which they usually need to pay off campaign debt. For example, Hillary Clinton's 2008 campaign is still in the "suspended" category because she is still paying off debt. In fact, the FEC does not allow them to terminate their campaigns until the debt is paid off.
You may have some point about delegates in caucuses and congressional districts... I know that the delegate selection process is ridiculously complicated for both parties. Frankly, I don't care to research the details. I mean, it's just ridiculous to even consider that Mitt Romney might somehow not be the Republican nominee. Ron Paul only got 12% of the vote in Texas. Those numbers don't lie, and they aren't meaningless. To argue that Ron Paul has a chance to be the nominee was ridiculous in the beginning of his campaign and it's been completely ludicrous for at least a few months now.
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Fair enough, but your gay marriage point only strengthens the argument for Paul. Regardless of his personal stances he understands its everyones right to liberty, not just his ideal.
Please illustrate us the various flip flops you're suggesting.
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And I've never heard one of them say anything in support of Ron Paul. Again, like I said, I think they all think independently regarding politics.
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How will Ron Paul justify his campaign if he doesn't end it now?
that isn't the correct delegate number
they giving him credit for delegates that haven't been selected yet at caucuses and congressional district conventions.
They are still giving him delegates from Maine he didn't win, and I am pretty sure there are others.
Why didn't the others end their campaigns and simply suspend them?
There is a reason to continue to amass delegates that goes far beyond winning the nomination.
My bigger question would be, what would be the point of not attempting to gain more delegates that are like minded to the convention. More things are decided there than who is running for president.
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
The reason candidates "suspend" their campaigns rather than "end" them is because then they can still collect contributions, which they usually need to pay off campaign debt. For example, Hillary Clinton's 2008 campaign is still in the "suspended" category because she is still paying off debt. In fact, the FEC does not allow them to terminate their campaigns until the debt is paid off.
You may have some point about delegates in caucuses and congressional districts... I know that the delegate selection process is ridiculously complicated for both parties. Frankly, I don't care to research the details. I mean, it's just ridiculous to even consider that Mitt Romney might somehow not be the Republican nominee. Ron Paul only got 12% of the vote in Texas. Those numbers don't lie, and they aren't meaningless. To argue that Ron Paul has a chance to be the nominee was ridiculous in the beginning of his campaign and it's been completely ludicrous for at least a few months now.