"I was riding on a camel searching for the Great Pyramids. Then my camel wanted water, so I dug a hole and gave him water. It was a fun adventure."
My son is 8 years old in the third grade.
I just asked him this question and this was his answer. He could have gone on, but you get the point.
I asked him where he learned about what a camel is and he said "maybe I researched it"?
Not saying this proves anything, but it made me happy that he knew something about them and could conjure up a story at my request.
Nice very nice, mine are too old to ask them the same but I did ask them about a yak. The boys said "what's a yak?" Then my daughter said "it's like a water buffalo something I wouldn't want to ride"
Peace
*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
sadly americans are becoming the dumbest shits on the planet. florida onward, north, east, and west... all are slipping. every single country/region out performs the us of a in young intelligence except for the north & south poles.
this is very terrible.
we are dumb because of the following:
1. spoiled
2. lazy parents unwilling to educate their children; let the schools do it
3. sports is more important and sports teams generate huge money; let's pay teachers in dogshit.
4. teachers are fighting a uphill battle whilst blind folded, arms tied behind their backs, tongues removed and ears damaged to the point of deafness.
5. anyone got something to add?
17. bullies are insane these days (young people holding a victim down whilst cutting his hair off for shits and giggles; bully grows up to want to be the president of the united states. something tells me this person has been pampered their entire life. coddling turns me off.
if i had kids i would very much consider home schooling. school violence/guns, scares the shit out of me.
The sad thing is, education in America in general is weak and this is nothing new. In my first semester in college (in the fall of 1969) I asked a kid I met in the dorms what his favorite book was. He said, "I don't know- I've never read an entire book." I asked, "How did you get into college?" and he answered, "I don't know."
Wow. And look at what you do now for a living. Good on ya!
My parents were avid readers - we had so many books as children, both those that they read to us and those we searched out for ourselves. (Saturday mornings at the library was a tradition.)
Something immensely satisfying about the mental side of it, coupled with the physical - holding the book, that moment of getting to the end of a page, fingers at the bottom, ready to turn, then the turn to the next page. Like a wonderful form of gluttony - can't suck it in quickly enough.
And the smell of the paper! Beloved.
(sorry for the side-track!)
One of the things I love the most about my work is turning middle school and high school kids on to good books. When they come back years later and tell me that they really enjoyed this or that book and what they're into reading now I get totally stoked! One of "my kids" came back and told me that helping her get into classics led her to moving to NYC to go to one of the universities there to study English Lit.
Oh happy day!
"Pretty cookies, heart squares all around, yeah!" -Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
Nobody wants their kid to fail anymore. We dumb down the content so everyone can pass so everybody feels good. If the kid passes said test then the parents did a good job raising their kid, the kid did a good job learning the material, the teacher did a good job teaching, and the public got their money's worth out of the taxes they paid. Now switch that, if the kid fails, then the parents failed, the kid failed, the teacher failed and society failed. Now who's to blame? Well they all are duh! But who's going to fix it? Nobody, that's who!
It is ok to FAIL!!! How the hell do you ever learn anything if you're always right? How do you learn if you never received constructive criticism? Why must we (parents, teachers, society) feed the self-esteem of the kids? When I was in school the teacher was always right and the kid was always wrong, regardless of actual facts. Now it is just the opposite the teachers are usually wrong and the kids are right. We teach our kids how to get out of trouble, even if they're in the wrong. We teach our kids that there are not always negative consequences for their negative actions. It is ok to fail!
riotgrl, you consistently make well-thought-out points, here and in other threads. Thank you.
Not only is it OK to fail - it's NECESSARY. It's how we (hopefully) learn to succeed.
Coddling benefits the parents as a band-aid of sorts, but does such a disservice to those on the receiving end.
thank you the both of you for making a lot of sense a lot of the time. failing is a must.
Thank you both for your nice words
Are we getting something out of this all-encompassing trip?
Seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned...
expectations are low. whatever happened to striving for being the best you can be? whatever happened to parents and teachers instilling this exact fight in our young people? do the youths even give a damn? no, they have video games at home waiting on them and facebook updates to be concerned with. then we have those that are abused regularly that are so fuckered up it is disgusting.
i have not the answers. all i can mustar up is for learning to begin at home from day one. this will and should last until death, we should not ever stop wanting to learn and never stop sharing our knowledge with others. this makes the world go 'round.
about exceptations being low, here we go.
when my mom and dad both were lifeguards at the pool
they each had to swim 1 mile nonstop and do other things to become certified
this was in the last 70's early 80's.
today at the exact same pool... 12 laps plus the cpr shit and whatever else
gets you a lifeguard certificate... you can have your red shirt w/ white lettering reading you are a badass lifeguard
one of the head-honchos at the fitness center tried to get his/her certificate...fail. he/she could not swim 12 fucking laps.
exceptations will fall again. maybe 5 laps will get a fucker their lifeguarding license.
i do know if a woman has large cans they are hired instantly. ask pam anderson from bay watch
This is truly sad. I live and Florida and my sister in law is a teacher and the stories she has told me a crazy. I personally blame parents who want think their kids can do no wrong.
Like me and Mexico visited twice, will never go back!
mexico is absolutely one of the greatest places on the planet. like you i been there twice and to places you would not step foot into. that being my guess anyway....
mexico is riddled with culture and peace
most news channels only report on the crime in the border towns. mexico's ppl are fun loving kind and poor. they may be poor but they are very wealthy with soul
My experience the exact opposite on both the people, crime and current culture
and your guess would be wrong...
we went to places like that.
This was my point though that vacation destinations can change an opinion on a place
based on whether it was a good vacation experience or bad. This what perhaps happens to Florida in some opinions.
Mexico was very bad for me both times.
It's the fool me once... thingy.... live and learn.
I won't bad mouth Mexico though knowing that my experiences are my own
and not the norm.
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"if your kid can't read it's mommy's fault. if the kid can't read because there are no lights in the house, that's daddy's fault..."
parent- "what is four plus four??"
kid- "jello!!"
"if your kid is dumb, you ain't saving college money, you saving BAIL money!"
i am thinking that it is the parent's responsibility to teach them basic things like what animals are what. are there no zoos in florida? are there no nature shows on tv there? are there not those awesome cards with the animals' pictures on them that they used to advertise on tv? is there no internet website devoted to animals? if i could go look books up in a library as a 9 year old, these kids can certainly google "camel".
to me it just seems like kids are not interested in things like animals these days. otherwise they would have an idea what a camel is.
The ROCK is right. :DThere has to be parental input for one's child to have some sort of success.
Peace
*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
My experience the exact opposite on both the people, crime and current culture
and your guess would be wrong...
we went to places like that.
This was my point though that vacation destinations can change an opinion on a place
based on whether it was a good vacation experience or bad. This what perhaps happens to Florida in some opinions.
Mexico was very bad for me both times.
It's the fool me once... thingy.... live and learn.
I won't bad mouth Mexico though knowing that my experiences are my own
and not the norm.
my 2nd trip to mexico did not entail a luxurious family vacation, far from it. we were searching for a abducted individual who was taken from his mother in the des moines, iowa area back in the 70's. in the late 90's my dad, my brother and i located this young man and reunited him with his mother and two younger twin sisters. at 3 years old or so he was told his mom died in a car accident then dumped in mexico by the father. he was raised in a brothel by ladies of the night.
yeah our trip didn't include sitting around on our asses scratchin our privates and drinkin into the night for shits and giggles. we had a job to do and we did it very well. :twisted:
thread integrity... learning as a young person is extremely difficult when no one gives a frig
I can't believe this thread is still chugging along. :eh:
The title ALONE is putting some people down and yet it's still here! :?
it is not that big a deal, justly. i have read soo much worse insults elsewhere. this is very mild and quite factual actually. the truth hurts when being at the bottom stinks.
you are a teacher. and you are now residing in florida. perhaps it is time for some donating of your time; free tutoring at the local library, yes/no?
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My son is 8 years old in the third grade.
I just asked him this question and this was his answer. He could have gone on, but you get the point.
I asked him where he learned about what a camel is and he said "maybe I researched it"?
Not saying this proves anything, but it made me happy that he knew something about them and could conjure up a story at my request.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
Nice very nice, mine are too old to ask them the same but I did ask them about a yak. The boys said "what's a yak?"
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
this is very terrible.
we are dumb because of the following:
1. spoiled
2. lazy parents unwilling to educate their children; let the schools do it
3. sports is more important and sports teams generate huge money; let's pay teachers in dogshit.
4. teachers are fighting a uphill battle whilst blind folded, arms tied behind their backs, tongues removed and ears damaged to the point of deafness.
5. anyone got something to add?
17. bullies are insane these days (young people holding a victim down whilst cutting his hair off for shits and giggles; bully grows up to want to be the president of the united states. something tells me this person has been pampered their entire life. coddling turns me off.
if i had kids i would very much consider home schooling. school violence/guns, scares the shit out of me.
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
this is a picture of a camel...
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
btw, i am a 4th grader from miami
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
One of the things I love the most about my work is turning middle school and high school kids on to good books. When they come back years later and tell me that they really enjoyed this or that book and what they're into reading now I get totally stoked! One of "my kids" came back and told me that helping her get into classics led her to moving to NYC to go to one of the universities there to study English Lit.
Oh happy day!
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
Thank you both for your nice words
Seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned...
I AM MINE
i have not the answers. all i can mustar up is for learning to begin at home from day one. this will and should last until death, we should not ever stop wanting to learn and never stop sharing our knowledge with others. this makes the world go 'round.
about exceptations being low, here we go.
when my mom and dad both were lifeguards at the pool
they each had to swim 1 mile nonstop and do other things to become certified
this was in the last 70's early 80's.
today at the exact same pool... 12 laps plus the cpr shit and whatever else
gets you a lifeguard certificate... you can have your red shirt w/ white lettering reading you are a badass lifeguard
one of the head-honchos at the fitness center tried to get his/her certificate...fail. he/she could not swim 12 fucking laps.
exceptations will fall again. maybe 5 laps will get a fucker their lifeguarding license.
i do know if a woman has large cans they are hired instantly. ask pam anderson from bay watch
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
from the top,
yes
and your guess would be wrong...
we went to places like that.
This was my point though that vacation destinations can change an opinion on a place
based on whether it was a good vacation experience or bad.
This what perhaps happens to Florida in some opinions.
Mexico was very bad for me both times.
It's the fool me once... thingy.... live and learn.
I won't bad mouth Mexico though knowing that my experiences are my own
and not the norm.
The ROCK is right. :DThere has to be parental input for one's child to have some sort of success.
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
yeah our trip didn't include sitting around on our asses scratchin our privates and drinkin into the night for shits and giggles. we had a job to do and we did it very well. :twisted:
thread integrity... learning as a young person is extremely difficult when no one gives a frig
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
The title ALONE is putting some people down and yet it's still here! :?
you are a teacher. and you are now residing in florida. perhaps it is time for some donating of your time; free tutoring at the local library, yes/no?
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
Actually, I'm a pianist that happens to teach music classes. :?