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  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,593
    pjl44 wrote:
    pjhawks wrote:
    i really don't understand people who try and say Obama saying this is not a big deal. in 50 years when the issue of gay marriage has long been passed the history books will have Obama as being the 1st President to ever support it. even though there is little chance of it passing during his 2nd term Obama has immediately given the cause a kick in the right direction. no one else in the world coming out in support of it could make even a ripple of effect as much as the Potus. It will have a long term effect on the issue, even if the a positive effect on the election is minimal.

    and an unsaid benefit of him saying it is that maybe there are others who are in support but fear the reaction. now that that potus has said it makes it easier to support.

    If in 1915 someone said they believed women should have the right to vote, but was OK with states that disallowed it, you feel that person should be celebrated historically?

    it that person was the sitting POTUS damn right it would be historically noted (not sure about celebrated, but historically noted for sure).
  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 11,769
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    Having thought about this for a day I think my initial reaction was wrong. I thought it was a nifty political stunt, but now that I think about it this isn't really gonna help him win the election.

    Therefore I think it was indeed a courageous and gutsy move. We all know it is simply a nudge in the right direction, but that's part of the process. Change doesn't happen overnight.

    It was fun to read the bigoted reactions of all the righties. :lol:

    Be careful, if you use the word bigot, you'll be accused of being a bigot. ;)

    Yea right.

    Anybody remember this?
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,021
    know1 wrote:
    I heard Bill Maher on a local radio station yesterday say that he felt in Obama's first term we got the "white" presidency and that his second term we'd get the "black" presidency.

    If a conservative had said that, the world would go nuts. Maher was saying it in what he felt was a good way.
    If a Conservative had said that it would have been meant maliciously.
    I love Bill Maher. I want to be friends with him! :D
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    know1 wrote:
    I heard Bill Maher on a local radio station yesterday say that he felt in Obama's first term we got the "white" presidency and that his second term we'd get the "black" presidency.

    If a conservative had said that, the world would go nuts. Maher was saying it in what he felt was a good way.
    If a Conservative had said that it would have been meant maliciously.
    I love Bill Maher. I want to be friends with him! :D

    speaking of being friends.... last night whilst watching jon stewart i realised ive developed a bit of a crush on him. hes smart and funny as hell.. thats hard to beat. im gonna miss him when i go home. :(
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  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 11,769
    catefrances wrote:
    speaking of being friends.... last night whilst watching jon stewart i realised ive developed a bit of a crush on him. hes smart and funny as hell.. thats hard to beat. im gonna miss him when i go home. :(

    Small world...

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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    catefrances wrote:
    speaking of being friends.... last night whilst watching jon stewart i realised ive developed a bit of a crush on him. hes smart and funny as hell.. thats hard to beat. im gonna miss him when i go home. :(

    Small world...

    http://www.thedailyshow.com/


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  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 11,769
    catefrances wrote:
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    catefrances wrote:
    speaking of being friends.... last night whilst watching jon stewart i realised ive developed a bit of a crush on him. hes smart and funny as hell.. thats hard to beat. im gonna miss him when i go home. :(

    Small world...

    http://www.thedailyshow.com/

    stop teasing me.

    You don't have the internet at home? I know we can see Australian sites... ;)
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,021
    catefrances wrote:
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    know1 wrote:
    I heard Bill Maher on a local radio station yesterday say that he felt in Obama's first term we got the "white" presidency and that his second term we'd get the "black" presidency.

    If a conservative had said that, the world would go nuts. Maher was saying it in what he felt was a good way.
    If a Conservative had said that it would have been meant maliciously.
    I love Bill Maher. I want to be friends with him! :D

    speaking of being friends.... last night whilst watching jon stewart i realised ive developed a bit of a crush on him. hes smart and funny as hell.. thats hard to beat. im gonna miss him when i go home. :(
    Yeah, I'd feel the same way, except that he's practically a midget and I'm 5'10", lol! I'd have to stick with a one night stand with Stewart. :lol:

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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    catefrances wrote:
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    Small world...

    http://www.thedailyshow.com/

    stop teasing me.

    You don't have the internet at home? I know we can see Australian sites... ;)

    i do. and i might just make more of an effort for jon.
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  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 11,769
    catefrances wrote:
    i do. and i might just make more of an effort for jon.

    I can't stay up and watch that show, but I can't wait to watch the replay tonight.
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    catefrances wrote:
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    If a Conservative had said that it would have been meant maliciously.
    I love Bill Maher. I want to be friends with him! :D

    speaking of being friends.... last night whilst watching jon stewart i realised ive developed a bit of a crush on him. hes smart and funny as hell.. thats hard to beat. im gonna miss him when i go home. :(
    Yeah, I'd feel the same way, except that he's practically a midget and I'm 5'10", lol! I'd have to stick with a one night stand with Stewart. :lol:

    Where at you going that you can't watch him? All his shows are online, so you don't need to go without. Yay.

    jon stewarts a midget??? he seemed a little taller than that to me. ;):lol:
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,021
    catefrances wrote:
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    catefrances wrote:

    speaking of being friends.... last night whilst watching jon stewart i realised ive developed a bit of a crush on him. hes smart and funny as hell.. thats hard to beat. im gonna miss him when i go home. :(
    Yeah, I'd feel the same way, except that he's practically a midget and I'm 5'10", lol! I'd have to stick with a one night stand with Stewart. :lol:

    Where at you going that you can't watch him? All his shows are online, so you don't need to go without. Yay.

    jon stewarts a midget??? he seemed a little taller than that to me. ;):lol:
    I draw the line at EV's height. ;)
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    catefrances wrote:
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    Yeah, I'd feel the same way, except that he's practically a midget and I'm 5'10", lol! I'd have to stick with a one night stand with Stewart. :lol:

    Where at you going that you can't watch him? All his shows are online, so you don't need to go without. Yay.

    jon stewarts a midget??? he seemed a little taller than that to me. ;):lol:
    I draw the line at EV's height. ;)

    i dunno i get the feeling thered be instances where having a lover who also happens to be midget might just come in handy. ;)8-)
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  • Pepe SilviaPepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    catefrances wrote:
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    Yeah, I'd feel the same way, except that he's practically a midget and I'm 5'10", lol! I'd have to stick with a one night stand with Stewart. :lol:

    Where at you going that you can't watch him? All his shows are online, so you don't need to go without. Yay.

    jon stewarts a midget??? he seemed a little taller than that to me. ;):lol:
    I draw the line at EV's height. ;)


    i know they're both short but out of curiosity roughly how tall are they?
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,021
    Pepe Silvia wrote:
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    catefrances wrote:

    jon stewarts a midget??? he seemed a little taller than that to me. ;):lol:
    I draw the line at EV's height. ;)


    i know they're both short but out of curiosity roughly how tall are they?
    Ed's 5'7.5" which isn't that short. But Stewart is 5'6" (probably a bit less), and that's in really short territory!
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  • MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,749
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    EdStewart is 5'6" (probably a bit less), and that's in really short territory!
    Hey!
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,021
    MayDay10 wrote:
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    EdStewart is 5'6" (probably a bit less), and that's in really short territory!
    Hey!
    Sorry! :oops:
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  • peacefrompaulpeacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    I believe average height is a little over 5'9" in the U.S.

    Anyway, back to the topic
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,156
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    But Stewart is 5'6" (probably a bit less), and that's in really short territory!
    Does that include his hair? Cause that's gotta be at least 4 inches.
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    Pepe Silvia wrote:
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    I draw the line at EV's height. ;)


    i know they're both short but out of curiosity roughly how tall are they?
    Ed's 5'7.5" which isn't that short. But Stewart is 5'6" (probably a bit less), and that's in really short territory!

    oh score! jon stewarts my height. perfect. :mrgreen:
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  • Newch91Newch91 Posts: 17,560
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    Pepe Silvia wrote:
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    I draw the line at EV's height. ;)


    i know they're both short but out of curiosity roughly how tall are they?
    Ed's 5'7.5" which isn't that short. But Stewart is 5'6" (probably a bit less), and that's in really short territory!
    I thought Eddie was taller until I met him. We're like the same height.
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    Jason P wrote:
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    But Stewart is 5'6" (probably a bit less), and that's in really short territory!
    Does that include his hair? Cause that's gotta be at least 4 inches.


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  • Newch91Newch91 Posts: 17,560
    Umm...really?

    http://www.patheos.com/blogs/bristolpal ... sha-obama/

    I wish there was a "scratching head" smiley.
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    Newch91 wrote:
    Umm...really?

    http://www.patheos.com/blogs/bristolpal ... sha-obama/

    I wish there was a "scratching head" smiley.

    face palm works just as well. ;)


    umm... what did she say??? :fp:
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  • whygohomewhygohome Posts: 2,305
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/1 ... 06922.html

    Franklin Graham, son of Billy Graham.

    Evangelist Franklin Graham said in a statement Thursday that President Barack Obama had "shaken his fist" at God when he affirmed his support for same-sex marriage.

    Graham, a North Carolina resident and the son of Billy Graham, noted the constitutional amendment passed by his state Tuesday to ban gay marriage, and slammed Obama for changing his position on the issue, calling it "a sad day for America."

    Obama announced Wednesday during an interview with ABC that he supported the right of same-sex couples to marry.

    "While the move to pass amendments defining marriage is relatively new, the definition of marriage is 8,000 years old and was defined not by man, but by God Himself," Graham said in a statement. "In changing his position from that of senator/candidate Obama, President Obama has, in my view, shaken his fist at the same God who created and defined marriage. It grieves me that our president would now affirm same-sex marriage, though I believe it grieves God even more."

    Graham has a history of criticizing Obama. In February, he questioned the president's religious beliefs, saying he was not sure whether he was a Christian. He also said it seemed as though "Muslims are getting a pass" from the Obama
  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 11,769
    catefrances wrote:
    Newch91 wrote:
    Umm...really?

    http://www.patheos.com/blogs/bristolpal ... sha-obama/

    I wish there was a "scratching head" smiley.

    face palm works just as well. ;)


    umm... what did she say??? :fp:

    Who ever said that a female president would be "submissive" to her husband? Sounds like something only a reactionary tea-party person would say.
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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,897
    How's that man and a woman parenting doing for Bristol palin?
  • Newch91Newch91 Posts: 17,560
    catefrances wrote:
    Newch91 wrote:
    Umm...really?

    http://www.patheos.com/blogs/bristolpal ... sha-obama/

    I wish there was a "scratching head" smiley.

    face palm works just as well. ;)


    umm... what did she say??? :fp:
    Good point. :fp:
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,021
    catefrances wrote:
    Newch91 wrote:
    Umm...really?

    http://www.patheos.com/blogs/bristolpal ... sha-obama/

    I wish there was a "scratching head" smiley.

    face palm works just as well. ;)


    umm... what did she say??? :fp:
    :fp: :fp: :fp: Indeed!!!
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  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 11,769
    Newch91 wrote:
    Umm...really?

    http://www.patheos.com/blogs/bristolpal ... sha-obama/

    I wish there was a "scratching head" smiley.

    You know, nobody is asking the important question here...

    Who gives a shit?
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